Bizarre issue when attempting trance/focus

[Pyralis]

Hello again, and welcome to another chapter in this ongoing saga to fix myself.

So I've begun to notice something rather strange--it's been ongoing for as long as I can remember but I guess I just didn't realize what had been happening until now. Anyway, whenever I attempt to meditate or enter anything deeper than a very light trance, I almost always immediately enter into a dream-like state and start to see things typical of dreams: surreal places, odd voices, nonsensical conversations, things of that sort. Then I get lost in the feeling and immediately lose focus, forgetting what it was I'd planned to accomplish in the first place. It ends by either me recognizing it and consciously fighting to end it or just naturally returning to an awake state after some moments; either way, I end back up in a fully conscious state and back at square one, having accomplished nothing.

Initial thoughts:
-Shortage of earth: The symptoms do seem to line up, but my natal chart says I have a decent amount. I did try invoking earth the other day to see if it would help, but haven't felt any effects yet. Reluctant to experiment further for lack of confidence in my abilities and fear of making things worse.
-Debilitated Saturn: From what I've read, Saturn provides grounding, which I seem to be lacking. However, nowhere on the site does it recommend performing a Saturn square, although at this point I'm willing to try anything.
-Weak base chakra: Related to above, since Saturn rules this chakra. Vibrating LAUM has had some promising effects; will continue to experiment. Again, a Saturn square could help, but I don't know if it's worth the risk.

Anyone have any other ideas?

 

[Alexandros Iowno [TG]]

It is normal and natural. You have to keep going and practice, and also make use of the void meditation and getting control over your faculties. No need for complicated reasons and causes.

When I'm too tired to meditate, I first sleep and dream for a couple of minutes before my awareness wakes up while my body is still asleep. You have to remind yourself what you are there to do.

Also when a trance is acquired, deeper or less, the buzz from the acquired trance will wake you up. It is like a little rush of adrenaline for the first time. The adrenaline is what makes you go to square one, but it isn't square one. Your mind and body adapt in time and learn what is happening, as this is something new for the body and mind, this gets scared and tries to wake you up. For an untrained mind, there is only sleep and wakefulness, the journey in between while being conscious is alien land so to say. This is an experience that adds up and eventually, you proceed to the next level and so on.

The trance makes you able to be conscious about your astral body in the first place, that is if your astral body is functional with enough bioelectricity along the path of advancement.

I wrote about how to acquire a trance and about this subject in the past. Others too. Use the search function, stop overthinking, and just practice. It is all about the experience here and not logical thinking.

 

[Blitzkreig [TG]]

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Go based on how you feel about your elements, as that is the total result of your whole natal chart, based on all the aspects, power of each planet, and so on. Looking at just the number of planets in each element, for example, is not a true representation of your constitution.

Use ether energy for daily balancing, so you don't feel like you will create an opposite imbalance. This will also fix the other elements, as well. Personal experience has shown this works very well in regard to earth element. Affirm the energy to safely balance you, as well, don't just leave it sitting in you.

Don't do the Saturn Square, as this will invoke the negative aspects of Saturn as well. Nauthiz is the rune that corresponds to Saturn energy. Jera or Uruz can also work, but I would primarily focus on Nauthiz. September 14th is in waxing Capricorn, so this is a good time for gaining Saturn-like qualities. You can experiment with the rune beforehand, of course.

Yes, do extra work on your base chakra. Laum is a good start.