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Being "Stuck" With Meditation, Patience, Overcoming Obstacles

AvatarHigh Priest Zevios Metathronos6 min to read

It is not uncommon that even the best meditators, experience something that is also experienced from advanced or new meditators.

This might be a situation where you meditate and you notice you don't advance further as you might have previously done. This can be a slowdown, or even feel like a halt. The amount of time these levels take can be ranging, and it might terrify one in some cases, or instill strong doubt in their progress. Therefore I need to explain why this occurs and that yes, you should NOT be worried. These can last from weeks, to months, to in rare cases, as long as 2 or 3 years.

Of course, this might not be everyone, but in one's long journey, the above might be experienced, so one has to be ready to counteract this too. The roots of this are also in Alchemy and revealed in the Tarot. If you check the Pentacles, you will see the 7 of Pentacles, you will see a man who has done everything in meditation [7 also symbolizes the 7 chakras in one interpretation we can give] but is sitting there depressed looking at the tree he has planted.

Then, this is followed by 8 of Pentacles, which is basically the same type of man, instead of sitting there depressed lamenting by the lack of progress or being stuck, he is merely continuing his work happily. Then in a jump of levels, we have 9 and 10 of Pentacles, which are major levels of success. But just a few levels before, the aspirant was only just stuck in a rut and seemingly not going anywhere.

Generally this situation can revolve around many factors, and is oftentimes, planetary. In fact I have not found another cause more than the planets until now to cause this. So some people, depending on what transits they might experience, will probably not even get to experience this but once every a couple of decades.

Also, due to lack of knowledge on how meditation works in the progressive way, you might be thinking you are hitting a wall, but the opposite may be soon about to happen. Let me explain.

Meditation or much of it, revolves around feeding the soul and advancing it. This, adds up after a while, and the effects do compound upon one another.

I have went through similar ruts like everyone else, where it took years to push past a previous barrier or to move to the next level. Basically, this involved just being stably on top of the already previously attained level and staying there for a while.

By never quitting, I always made sure to supply the soul with what it required to advance further. Sometimes, it felt as if I were doing nothing or not much as no further upwards progress was being made "in front of my eyes". But as it turned out, these years where it looked like nothing was moving that much further, were actually the most pivotal meditation years for new birth, causing later compound added growth and exponential growth.

After a time, all of this catches up with you. This is just another law of life at work, but because of lack of perception on natural flows, we don't understand it.

Much of life's activity happens beneath the evident and the experienced realm. You walk into a recently planted forest and you might see nothing on the surface. Yet, because all the preconditions of life are being met, beneath the soil there may be booming life. Eventually, you start seeing the first newborn plants, and ten to twenty years from now, you have an amazing forest rife with life.

All of this started from the years that you really walked on the forest and questioned yourself if this shit was even worth your time at all.

However, after specific periods passed, all the work comes back to you. This is like planting things on a field. For half the year, you will see nothing, and maybe for the next year, you will only see the first results of your efforts. Many scoff these because they don't see things in the long-term. As an ancient philosopher in Greece, Plato, has said, "to begin is the half of the whole.

What many people describe as being "stuck", is oftentimes attributed to these following causes:

1. Planets that may disallow you from experiencing some things right now [normal, it always passes, and meditations stack up anyway]. A lot of Saturn can put a lot of weight on the system. However, Saturn will reward the efforts of just about anything, and when he is away from you, you will grow with compound effect if you have been meditating through these transits.

2. Certain levels of development where the soul goes into an incubation state. This is like generating for new birth. As one keeps the baby provided [the soul] eventually you will reach a new checkpoint and sometimes, quite "suddenly". You might be toiling for this for 355 days and it will happen in the last 10 days.

3. In rare cases, curses or other things [which you can easily remove with the Ritual and with proper cleaning. Also, the Gods or a working will assist here if the situation is very serious].

4. The need for new knowledge. Now, that is a little rare and should concern only advanced meditators. But at this level, it's expected from people to also receive guidance to do the proper meditations, and advance in the next direction. This knowledge typically will arrive to you when it's time for you personally to move on the next level of your advancement. This is a serious level of affairs. All the building blocks for this are in the JoS already, and you may need up for example, to work on other parts of your soul as you advance and so on.

In closing with meditation, you are never really stuck. When meditations are being done, they ARE being done, and they are being applied to your soul.

One Chinese philosopher whose name does escape me now, said that when you plant a seed, you don't dig it out every single day to judge on if it has grown. It has to be left alone to grow itself, in the dark, and where you don't see it. You just have to water it. The same goes for the human soul and spirit in the examples of having to endure some waiting periods and other strides where you are actually rising the mountain but you haven't been to your next checkpoint.

Eventually of course, you will see the first sprout of the seed, the tree above the soil, and then it's rewards, until it becomes a huge tree. But most people don't wait that much and they therefore leave the seeds without water.

The key here is this: Keep advancing at your own pace and level, and it will all come together. Have faith in the work that you are doing.

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

#20

Perfect HPZM

#21

I tend to go into a zombie state of awareness when I meditate, like I forget I was meditating and don't even know what's going on. Before this I do feel like I struggle between trance state and not being able to relax my brain, kinda like my brain notices that it's been relaxed and it tightens up again. It's so annoying, but my cleaning and protection workings always feel really good. Hope I get to experience more of life

#22
This is the targeted message.

Thank you HP Zevios Metathronos. This was very much needed.

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#23

This is an excellent explanation for people who don't know how to advance. Sermon absolutely worth saving and taking note of. Thank you!

#24

This was realy great to hear HP i thought i was stuck with yoga because i don't feel the buzzing so much as before. Thank you!

#25

Thank you :)

#26

Great read. Knowledge that I needed. So thankful

#27

Thank you for this post, it's really motivating.

#28

I've found it harder to meditate when working in stressful places like stores etc. The environment plays a big role for how successful one will be meditating I think. Yoga should be implemented in one's daily life, but it would be easier to do so under calmer conditions, closer to nature etc. First and foremost though it feels like discipline is key.
Coming home after a long day of work I don't really feel like meditating the first thing I do. It feels so boring. It's easier when I'm about to go to sleep anyway.

Breath of fire exercises are easier to motivate myself to since I can do it while watching/listening to something else while sitting up etc. It's a constant need for external stimulus which is hindering many from meditation I think. Also, meditation may in one way be looked upon by ppl in todays world as something "lazy" or "improductive" to do, just sitting/lying doing "nothing". And it can feel anxious to look deep into oneself. There are many obstacles hindering meditation in this crazy world of today I think. Religion has done it's job in removing the knowledge of advanced meditations while other things aim to making it very hard to implement this knowledge even if people would have it.

“Travel light, live light, spread the light, be the light.” - Yogi Bhajan

#29

This sermon applies to so much in life, beyond just meditation. Amazing advice and insight and it reveals something to always consider as you’re working towards long term goals, which don’t always show fruit immediately, but are worth the time and investment.

It reminds me of a past sermon where you said, a god told you, since humans have short lives we lose perspective a lot. Sometime you have to step back. But also the planetary influence you mentioned is a great thing to note, when one is struggling. Thanks!

#30
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

Also, due to lack of knowledge on how meditation works in the progressive way, you might be thinking you are hitting a wall, but the opposite may be soon about to happen. Let me explain.

I think this is also a problem that is not stressed enough here, I noticed it on myself and others too. Due to lack of time or a mind not trained enough in void meditation and vizualization exercises, people don't focus on the actual part of the soul they meditate on, or they don't vizualize what they have to vizualize and don't try to feel what they meditate on, but just merely vibrating the words or inspiring energy and then saying the afirmation while their mind is totally somewhere else. In this case that meditation will have an extremely limited effect, if any. OR maybe this is the manifestation of negative planetary influence over the spiritual advancement.

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#31
The Alchemist7said:
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

Also, due to lack of knowledge on how meditation works in the progressive way, you might be thinking you are hitting a wall, but the opposite may be soon about to happen. Let me explain.

I think this is also a problem that is not stressed enough here, I noticed it on myself and others too. Due to lack of time or a mind not trained enough in void meditation and vizualization exercises, people don't focus on the actual part of the soul they meditate on, or they don't vizualize what they have to vizualize and don't try to feel what they meditate on, but just merely vibrating the words or inspiring energy and then saying the afirmation while their mind is totally somewhere else. In this case that meditation will have an extremely limited effect, if any. OR maybe this is the manifestation of negative planetary influence over the spiritual advancement.

This is true. The mental aspect of meditation has been skipped by many. I have skipped too but its very important to advance. There are a lot who try to do more advanced meditations right away without having mastered the basics and then they get sad that they have not advanced enough or that they don't have the powers they expected to have. I have done the same mistakes but now I know that you need to master the basics and keep meditating everyday.

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The Alchemist7said:
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

Also, due to lack of knowledge on how meditation works in the progressive way, you might be thinking you are hitting a wall, but the opposite may be soon about to happen. Let me explain.

I think this is also a problem that is not stressed enough here, I noticed it on myself and others too. Due to lack of time or a mind not trained enough in void meditation and vizualization exercises, people don't focus on the actual part of the soul they meditate on, or they don't vizualize what they have to vizualize and don't try to feel what they meditate on, but just merely vibrating the words or inspiring energy and then saying the afirmation while their mind is totally somewhere else. In this case that meditation will have an extremely limited effect, if any. OR maybe this is the manifestation of negative planetary influence over the spiritual advancement.

I agree. I can feel this too. Which is something I have been focusing lately as well. My simple cleaning and AoP meditation can take up to an hour if I let my mind wonder. It also happens while vibrating the runes. I've been getting more and more aware of that fact, and it takes a lot of focus to keep up and dominate the mind and not the other way around. It also saves a lot of time from being wasted wondering inside the mind. If you do the things just for the sake of doing it just won't work... Speaking from experience here. You have to focus on the meditations, visualize them and focus on the final goal.

by xlnt » Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:47 pm

I've found it harder to meditate when working in stressful places like stores etc. The environment plays a big role for how successful one will be meditating I think. Yoga should be implemented in one's daily life, but it would be easier to do so under calmer conditions, closer to nature etc. First and foremost though it feels like discipline is key.
Coming home after a long day of work I don't really feel like meditating the first thing I do. It feels so boring. It's easier when I'm about to go to sleep anyway.

This happens to me too, I work as a security guard and I have to be around and deal with all sorts of shady people, also I'm pretty sure some throw curses at me without themselves even knowing they're doing so, just by thinking shit about me. I wasn't aware of this until only a few months ago. It takes a lot of cleaning and protection to be healthy in the mind, soul and physical self. What has been working for me is cleaning/protecting before work, while at work, and after work. It takes a lot of my time, but it must be done... While it work I just go outside for like 10-15 minutes under the sun, use the energy to cleanse and then absorb the energy from the sun into my aura for protection.

#33

I'm thinking the sun Square can also be helpful in this periods.

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#34
Invictus2said:

My simple cleaning and AoP meditation can take up to an hour if I let my mind wonder. It also happens while vibrating the runes. I've been getting more and more aware of that fact, and it takes a lot of focus to keep up and dominate the mind and not the other way around.

Yea exactly. My AoP meditation takes around 15-20 minutes but I know this is the perfect time and that I don't have to rush it, otherwise I don't feel properly cleaned. This is also manifesting throughout the day, I will experience bad things if I don't do the AoP properly before going somewhere, it happened before. It became `normality` for me, which is exaclty what should happen as this means that the meditation is doing its thing.

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#35
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

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-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

Thanks!
But what if i do meditations wrong, and do them wrong for 2 years, i wont advance, i read jos for meditations, how to know i do meditations correctly?

HAIL ZEUS!

#36

"Keep advancing at your own pace and level, and it will all come together. Have faith in the work that you are doing."

Those words make my hearth feel safe, thank you bro

By and by I say my opinion. Sometimes i might make mistakes, but is always with good will.

De vez en cuando digo mi opinion. A veces puedo equivocarme, pero siempre es con buena intencion.

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Be patient with what you know is coming. Trust in Satya.

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#37
mendezsaid:
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

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-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

Thanks!
But what if i do meditations wrong, and do them wrong for 2 years, i wont advance, i read jos for meditations, how to know i do meditations correctly?

HAIL ZEUS!

Follow the instructions to your best ability. As you do more, you'll understand more, and can adjust if needed.

#38
mendezsaid:
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

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-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

Thanks!
But what if i do meditations wrong, and do them wrong for 2 years, i wont advance, i read jos for meditations, how to know i do meditations correctly?

HAIL ZEUS!

The most important thing about meditation and magic is your intention and focus, even if you don't vibrate something correctly the spell/meditation can still work because of your intention. So don't worry about it. Try to do your best from now on and don't skip the basics.

#39

Hello.
I have started for some time, more than two years, at first I was very happy, I started with the meditations and everything was going well, the first 4 months, just when I was 4 months old, I had the honor of meeting and seeing Lucifer in person, this me It has helped to understand that Lucifer and Satan are different, I was very happy with my progress in my spiritual path, just after seeing Lucifer just a few days maybe a week or two I started to see energy in the air, it is white and shines everywhere, you look like glitter, energy cells moving, I was so happy. But then everything got worse, my ears started to hurt a lot, always, I have been to the doctor I thought I had an ear infection but the doctor found nothing, clearly I began to have a type of contact, to feel a type of external energy that made me damage to my ears, I also heard a sound, like a radio without signal, everything got worse when I met two men, one is from Egypt and the other from Jordan, they were curious, so much spiritual power, the power of simple humans was incredible, they They called themselves satanists, I started talking to them, telling some things about myself, until we got very close, I liked their power and I was happy with the idea of ​​having such powerful friends, they made me feel things, I felt them at all times , I saw them in my dreams, they could know everything about me, they read minds, in just one month of friendship I was already out of my spiritual path, I totally forgot myself, my children, everything, mind control began, they sent me ent I felt so cold, earache, suicidal thoughts, change in skin color, eyes, lip color, I have suffered attacks for 7 months, I have suffered spiritual violations, I felt all those things.
4 months ago I saw Lucifer again, He came to me and hugged me and flew with me and took me in a very old temple, there were monks there, after 2 months that I saw Lucifer the attacks stopped, I felt that those men already They have no power over me, I felt like those energies wanted to enter my ears again but something stopped them, but yesterday the nightmare has returned, I dreamed that one of those men called me out of the house, I am a little scared because I know what they want kill me, today all day I feel those energies in my ears again, I feel my third chakra a little strange, and I feel kisses on my mouth, my hair also moves, those men do not leave me alone, they do not let me go my way spiritual, they hate me and I don't know why !!! I tried to stop this and protect myself but I can't keep those men away from me, they are powerful and they won't leave me alone, please help me, please !!! I make trips when I'm asleep, it's accidentally, it just happens, one night I arrived in the middle of a ritual of them, it was a forest, there was a stone table, on the table a white woman, totally naked, was lying On the table, there was one of the two men and other men, dressed in black, but he did not let me see, they have seen me and he repeatedly appeared in front of me, he raised his left hand there was above and with his index finger I He pointed, he said three words in another language and I fell to the ground. Please help me, you want to kill me, I am your sister, do not leave me alone, I have a photo with me in it, an entity appears behind me, and you can see how I suffered, the color of my skin, lips and eyes. please help me

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