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Ask The Gods: "But I Cannot"

AvatarHigh Priest Zevios Metathronos4 min to read
Oculus666said:

I've asked plenty of questions on this forum only to get the "ask the Gods" response. While this is a valid answer, what is the benefit/purpose of this community for anyone that is able?

Whenever I try, best case scenario it's like broadcasting through a shitty radio with plenty of static. I'm too earth for that shit bro. Besides, there's also no clear way of knowing whether the person I'm speaking to actually is the intended one, and not an interceptor. No, I don't agree that being dedicated automatically fixes this problem.

Sure, sure I could spend a year straight improving my clairaudience. That would be the responsible thing to do right? Or, this community could just stop gatekeeping important information from its audience in the name of "safety". Believe me, if someone new was to try anything advanced they wouldn't just drop dead instantly, but they might wish they did lol. Raising the kundalini early would be horrible, and anyone who tries would quickly know that. I had an early surge when I was new and it felt like molten metal was rising up my spine, not a good time and not something people want to happen twice.

The reason for community is that these adages such as "Ask the Gods", require practical, tried and true capacities of the Spirit and the Soul in order to happen. It is as you say, what you say is honest and real. For most people, communication with the Gods can be difficult.

Yet, the Gods can and will actively guide and communicate with people. They guide through invisible means. It can be non-verbal, intuition, coincidences, choices. When one experiences this, they will know it comes from somewhere. One might not be ready for full fledged Astral communication, but the Gods have ways to reach every soul that seeks back to them.

Community is another way of directly reaching out to people. That's why many of the members have questions and then one might find these answered by another Zevist, or answered prior. It's a treasure of knowledge, through which one learns. The Temple of Zeus Community itself is a manifestation of the existence of the Gods.

Those who think it's just easy, are just delusional most of the time, and either the way of ultimate doubt or extreme "faith" in one's delusion, will prove equally catastrophic.

Mainly, the idea here is that one must develop slowly and steadily while learning the corpus of Zevism and being part of the Community, so that one is kept straight and doesn't get into either the nothing-land of not knowing what to do, or the insanity where everything from this place of static nothingness is falsely assumed to be a message from beyond.

The community has levels and layers, but the Initiation on the eyes of the Gods, requires passing of levels to receive from them, receive from your own direct experience, or even receive from the community. That requires an effort and growth that cannot be bypassed, no matter how hard one tries.

Finally, in regards to receiving messages from the Gods, there are many ways. All these ways involve insight, growth, spiritual ability, a well founded knowledge of the tenets of Zevism, sanity health and spiritual hygiene plus power, increase in growth of mind and understanding. These things are what can allow communication of ranging levels to take place.

As one lacks of either one or many of the above areas, there can be impediments in this. As one attains the above, one is closer.

These are eternal gifts to earn here. While people can spend 10 years doing nothing but idly watching Netflix, they could likewise spend time for a soul they will have eternally. It's all up where one decides they want to devote a part of their time.

As Zevists, we must be put some priorities and see if the things we say we want, we truly want them, and follow this by our deeds.

Lastly, Father Zeus clearly indicates in the Al Jilwah that He guides via unseen means. In another paragraph of the Al Jilwah, Father Zeus explains the importance of listening to His appointed ones for guide and help which includes both Daemons but also the material community, which is here to protect someone from delusion and other dangers to their journey.

You might not always clearly understand what the Gods are "Trying to tell you", but you will see their hand in your life, in slow and borderline invisible guidance that leads you in your intended answers and so on. One must understand that openness needs to exist for this, but also, logic to judge. Understanding grows in time and through truthful effort and a clear heart.

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

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HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:
Oculus666said:

I've asked plenty of questions on this forum only to get the "ask the Gods" response. While this is a valid answer, what is the benefit/purpose of this community for anyone that is able?

Whenever I try, best case scenario it's like broadcasting through a shitty radio with plenty of static. I'm too earth for that shit bro. Besides, there's also no clear way of knowing whether the person I'm speaking to actually is the intended one, and not an interceptor. No, I don't agree that being dedicated automatically fixes this problem.

Sure, sure I could spend a year straight improving my clairaudience. That would be the responsible thing to do right? Or, this community could just stop gatekeeping important information from its audience in the name of "safety". Believe me, if someone new was to try anything advanced they wouldn't just drop dead instantly, but they might wish they did lol. Raising the kundalini early would be horrible, and anyone who tries would quickly know that. I had an early surge when I was new and it felt like molten metal was rising up my spine, not a good time and not something people want to happen twice.

The reason for community is that these adages such as "Ask the Gods", require practical, tried and true capacities of the Spirit and the Soul in order to happen. It is as you say, what you say is honest and real. For most people, communication with the Gods can be difficult.

Yet, the Gods can and will actively guide and communicate with people. They guide through invisible means. It can be non-verbal, intuition, coincidences, choices. When one experiences this, they will know it comes from somewhere. One might not be ready for full fledged Astral communication, but the Gods have ways to reach every soul that seeks back to them.

I have become convinced that the gods direct by invisible means.

I have been in a variety of unusual situations and unusual things have happened to me, which will be very difficult to explain.

I think the most important thing is to be able to listen and be attentive to the signs, as well as be ready for perception.

This topic is quite complicated, but in any case, I try to do everything possible for my spiritual development in my current situation, so I think that a lot about my development depends on me, it concerns both my successes and my failures.

It is possible that without the support and guidance of the gods and the guardian demon, I would be dead now, but I am alive and grateful to the gods for all the good things in my life.
There are few happy moments in my life at the moment, but I believe that I will overcome everything and there will be more happiness in my life than I think.

«You will find on the left of the halls of Hades a spring, and standing by it a white cypress. Do not approach this spring at all. You will find another, from the Lake of Memory, with cold water flowing from it. Guardians stand before it. Say: 'I am a child of Earth and starry Heaven, but my race is of Heaven alone. You know this yourselves. I am parched with thirst and am perishing. Give me quickly the cold water flowing from the Lake of Memory.' And they will give you to drink from the sacred spring, and after that you will reign among the other heroes» - From the Petelia Tablet (300-200 BCE)

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Umunsaid:

For the sake of those that are actively trying to enhance their perceptiveness and work on the relevant centers for astral communication via the method described in the meditations section by breathing in energy in them, what would you suggest as additional measures? Also what are the prerequisites for engaging in this process and successfully regaining astral hearing and sight such as having already opened, clean and empowered main chakras, resolved blockages or having dealt with certain health issues that might interfere with this?

Thank you in advance. I believe addressing this is important because I've noticed a fair amount of delusional behavior and discourse in relation to communicating with the Gods and although to a certain extent it is understandable and most likely to be outgrown as one progresses it can in some cases lead to detriment and serious problems.

SWP

I am curious about perceived delusional behavior in relation to communicating with the Gods, would you please elaborate more to help me to better understand what it is you mean?
Do you mean that sometimes people tune into the astral or communicate with an entity that claims to be one thing but is really something else? Or that they receive a message but it isn't interpreted correctly/accurately?
In my home town, there are a handful of the homeless population (I was homeless many years) that have mental health issues & tune into various things. Some are legit schizophrenic, but some (I think, this is personal opinion/theory here) have opened their psyche to the astral via mind altering drugs, such as meth :( , unaware of the various vibrations, mental states & channels they could tune into. From there, they "speak to these beings" thinking in their altered state (delusion) that there is some "Divine encounter" taking place or "they are chosen ones" :roll: when the reality..(open to psychic attack) they are vulnerable victims of human hating entities messing with them since they aren't trained in psychic self-defense or protection; their own foolish choices gave way to misinterpretation, self-deceit, or other things detrimental. There was a person I met a few years back on my homeless journey who had similar ability to tune into intuitive/astral things, but it freaked them out & I think they thought themself to be crazy, when they were uninformed about the astral & psychic/telepathic communication.
I have witnessed delusions in people but usually they have mental health issues. :|

#22
Oculus666said:
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:
Oculus666said:

-HPZM 666

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https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=92661

If it can be useful to you, I recently had this experience which I believe can give you some suggestions on the right mentality to have towards the Gods, and life in general

#23
This is the targeted message.
C.Kretsaid:

You are correct to assume that cases such as those that you described are in some percentage an unfortunate connection of those poor souls with maleficent beings that exploit their weakness. They are however of no interest to me.

What I meant was the self generated delusions of dedicated satanists that for various reasons have imagined to be in contact with the Gods or to have received messages, omens or signs of some kind leading to either fantasy that one might later on (upon realizing what it was) learn from or to harmful consequence from decisions made based on their false conclusions and interpretation of those delusions.

Some of us have in the past or are still struggling with minor or major mental health issues and that doesn't help when trying to do anything that is aimed at improvement. With the right approach and some help these things can be overcome.

We are protected from many dangers that threaten the wellbeing of those without and do receive guidance and assistance from the Gods as HPZM so eloquently described in the op but are also expected to put in work and take on responsibility in the amount appropriate to the level of the persons development.

Being truthful to yourself regardless of how painful it may be is always worth it.

SWP