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Can Satan also be the God of the ascetics?
There are countless groups of ascetics who worship Satan.
If I became one, would he give me his blessing?

... εἰ δὲ νοεῖς, ἔστιν, ὦ βασιλεῦ, ϰαὶ σωμάτων ἀσώματα. — Ποῖα; ἔφη ὁ βασιλεύς. — Τὰ ἐν τοῖς ἐσόπτροις φαινόμενα σώματα οὐ δοϰεῖ σοι ἀσώματα εἶναι; — Οὕτως ἔχει, ὦ Τάτ· ϑείως νοεῖς, ὁ βασιλεὺς εἶπεν. — Ἔστι δὲ ϰαὶ ἀσώματα ἄλλα, οἷον αἱ ἰδέαι οὐ δοϰοῦσιν εἶναί σοι, ἀσώματοι οὖσαι, ἐν σώματι φαινόμεναι, οὐ μόνον τῶν ἐμψύχων ἀλλὰ ϰαὶ τῶν ἀψύχων; — Εὖ λέγεις, ὦ Τάτ. — Οὕτως ἀνταναϰλάσεις εἰσὶ τῶν ἀσωμάτων πρὸς τὰ σώματα, ϰαὶ τῶν σωμάτων πρὸς τὰ ἀσώματα, τουτέστι τοῦ αἰσϑητοῦ πρὸς τὸν νοητὸν ϰόσμον ϰαὶ τοῦ νοητοῦ πρὸς τὸν αἰσϑητόν· διὸ προσϰύνει τὰ ἀγάλματα, ὦ βασιλεῦ, ὡς ϰαὶ αὐτὰ ἰδέας ἔχοντα ἀπὸ τοῦ νοητοῦ ϰόσμου. ὁ οὖν βασιλεὺς ἐξαναστὰς ἔφη, Ὥρα ἐστίν, ὦ προφήτα, περὶ τὴν τῶν ξένων ἐπιμέλειαν γενέσϑαι· τῇ δὲ ἐπιούσῃ περὶ τῶν ἑξης ϑεολογήσομεν.

#2

The only “group” accepted by the Gods is the Jos; the rest is total nothingness.

Yes, some ascetics don't have a group.

... εἰ δὲ νοεῖς, ἔστιν, ὦ βασιλεῦ, ϰαὶ σωμάτων ἀσώματα. — Ποῖα; ἔφη ὁ βασιλεύς. — Τὰ ἐν τοῖς ἐσόπτροις φαινόμενα σώματα οὐ δοϰεῖ σοι ἀσώματα εἶναι; — Οὕτως ἔχει, ὦ Τάτ· ϑείως νοεῖς, ὁ βασιλεὺς εἶπεν. — Ἔστι δὲ ϰαὶ ἀσώματα ἄλλα, οἷον αἱ ἰδέαι οὐ δοϰοῦσιν εἶναί σοι, ἀσώματοι οὖσαι, ἐν σώματι φαινόμεναι, οὐ μόνον τῶν ἐμψύχων ἀλλὰ ϰαὶ τῶν ἀψύχων; — Εὖ λέγεις, ὦ Τάτ. — Οὕτως ἀνταναϰλάσεις εἰσὶ τῶν ἀσωμάτων πρὸς τὰ σώματα, ϰαὶ τῶν σωμάτων πρὸς τὰ ἀσώματα, τουτέστι τοῦ αἰσϑητοῦ πρὸς τὸν νοητὸν ϰόσμον ϰαὶ τοῦ νοητοῦ πρὸς τὸν αἰσϑητόν· διὸ προσϰύνει τὰ ἀγάλματα, ὦ βασιλεῦ, ὡς ϰαὶ αὐτὰ ἰδέας ἔχοντα ἀπὸ τοῦ νοητοῦ ϰόσμου. ὁ οὖν βασιλεὺς ἐξαναστὰς ἔφη, Ὥρα ἐστίν, ὦ προφήτα, περὶ τὴν τῶν ξένων ἐπιμέλειαν γενέσϑαι· τῇ δὲ ἐπιούσῃ περὶ τῶν ἑξης ϑεολογήσομεν.

#3

Some groups may have stumbled upon some truth, or honorably follow some principles of the Gods. I do not know if this is the case with the group you mentioned.

Regardless, JoS is the house of the Gods. This is not just a monicker, as we  are directly tasked with the edicts of the Gods, and tasked to be the guiding force for the people to know the Gods.

Having more than one group with that same purpose is counterintuitive and the Gods wouldn't do that.

Everything you need for your spiritual journey can or will be found here, and your efforts are best spent here.

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"That light, He said, am I, Nous, Thy God, who is before the hygra physis borne out of Darkness. The Logos, from Nous, is the Son of God."
- Θ Lord Thoth Θ

#4

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Pay attention to asceticism. In some cases this may lead you to big mistakes that life will make you “pay for,” you must maintain a balance between “material” and “spiritual.”

#6

Thanks to everyone who has responded so far.
I have a very latent desire for the ascetic life.
It's such a strong desire that it's hard to control.
Both desire and will

I see in this life a fulfillment that I long to achieve. The realization of simply being an ascetic and nothing more.

I totally understand the Church of Satan thing, but becoming an ascetic doesn't make me anything else.
As an ascetic I will still be able to practice and do the rituals given.

... εἰ δὲ νοεῖς, ἔστιν, ὦ βασιλεῦ, ϰαὶ σωμάτων ἀσώματα. — Ποῖα; ἔφη ὁ βασιλεύς. — Τὰ ἐν τοῖς ἐσόπτροις φαινόμενα σώματα οὐ δοϰεῖ σοι ἀσώματα εἶναι; — Οὕτως ἔχει, ὦ Τάτ· ϑείως νοεῖς, ὁ βασιλεὺς εἶπεν. — Ἔστι δὲ ϰαὶ ἀσώματα ἄλλα, οἷον αἱ ἰδέαι οὐ δοϰοῦσιν εἶναί σοι, ἀσώματοι οὖσαι, ἐν σώματι φαινόμεναι, οὐ μόνον τῶν ἐμψύχων ἀλλὰ ϰαὶ τῶν ἀψύχων; — Εὖ λέγεις, ὦ Τάτ. — Οὕτως ἀνταναϰλάσεις εἰσὶ τῶν ἀσωμάτων πρὸς τὰ σώματα, ϰαὶ τῶν σωμάτων πρὸς τὰ ἀσώματα, τουτέστι τοῦ αἰσϑητοῦ πρὸς τὸν νοητὸν ϰόσμον ϰαὶ τοῦ νοητοῦ πρὸς τὸν αἰσϑητόν· διὸ προσϰύνει τὰ ἀγάλματα, ὦ βασιλεῦ, ὡς ϰαὶ αὐτὰ ἰδέας ἔχοντα ἀπὸ τοῦ νοητοῦ ϰόσμου. ὁ οὖν βασιλεὺς ἐξαναστὰς ἔφη, Ὥρα ἐστίν, ὦ προφήτα, περὶ τὴν τῶν ξένων ἐπιμέλειαν γενέσϑαι· τῇ δὲ ἐπιούσῃ περὶ τῶν ἑξης ϑεολογήσομεν.

#7

Can Satan also be the God of the ascetics?
There are countless groups of ascetics who worship Satan.
If I became one, would he give me his blessing?

You will receive His greatest blessings, only if you follow the path of perfection. His Path of Supreme evolution, being onr with the entire universe.

#8

Thanks to everyone who has responded so far.
I have a very latent desire for the ascetic life.
It's such a strong desire that it's hard to control.
Both desire and will

I see in this life a fulfillment that I long to achieve. The realization of simply being an ascetic and nothing more.

I totally understand the Church of Satan thing, but becoming an ascetic doesn't make me anything else.
As an ascetic I will still be able to practice and do the rituals given.

Indeed. If it is so, then so be it.

#11

I was thinking of asceticism as a simple, minimalist life, not to this extent though. You have a valid point.

There are varying forms of asceticism, but they all bleed down to the extremes as the mind, body, and soul becomes deprived. It creates a backlash because the practice goes against your needs and nature as a person.

Some argue that adopting a minimalist lifestyle, often labeling it as asceticism, can help them overcome harmful addictions such as drugs, alcohol, tobacco, and junk food. However, this approach is more about setting boundaries to curb and eliminate harmful habits, than about true asceticism. Living minimally to gain control over negative influences is better described as practicing moderation and self-discipline, rather than embracing the deeper renunciation associated with ascetic practices, which in itself is harmful.

#13

Some ascetics, and perhaps the one in the picture in question, seem to me to have achieved discipline, peace, and a strong mind.

In fact, this one doesn't seem healthy to me, because he doesn't follow the middle diet.
But the mental ability to remain in this state without any disturbance is something I particularly admire.

As an ascetic, I would do my best to eat optimally, drink optimally, and meditate optimally.

Discipline means nothing if you have lost everything in the process. You can just as well exhibit feats of mental strength whilst having masses of wealth, luxury, and pleasure. There is no need to associate this in any way with the negative themes of sexual repression, starvation, or other assaults on the human soul that come from the ascetic path.

The man in the picture, which you reference as "at peace", is actually in a state of dying. For someone to be at peace with this means their soul is actually deranged and has lost the survival instincts that are actually associated with discipline and a strong base chakra.

Ultimately, you can achieve what you are thinking about without following the lies of these Buddhists or other suicidal fanatics. You just have to open your mind to this possibility, as otherwise you are restricting yourself from opportunities which would lead to a more successful advancement path, resulting in much greater character development than the path of restriction and loss.

#14

Others live in what you might call an ideal way.

Anyway, becoming an ascetic would give me more free time to do what I really like.

Material achievement correlates with spiritual advancement; they reflect in each other. Therefore, there would become a limit to your growth if you were only doing meditation and not certain material actions.

That does not mean you cannot alter your life to prioritize Satanism, but doing this specifically along ascetic guidelines would not do this. Maybe you would find a job that allows you more free time to meditate or complete other Satanic projects, rather than leaving civilization entirely or something. This is an example of a more balanced option.

#15

I was thinking of asceticism as a simple, minimalist life, not to this extent though. You have a valid point.

That, does raise curiosity. Even , i am interested, to know of this way of life.

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#16
This is the targeted message.

Material achievement correlates with spiritual advancement; they reflect in each other. Therefore, there would become a limit to your growth if you were only doing meditation and not certain material actions.

That does not mean you cannot alter your life to prioritize Satanism, but doing this specifically along ascetic guidelines would not do this. Maybe you would find a job that allows you more free time to meditate or complete other Satanic projects, rather than leaving civilization entirely or something. This is an example of a more balanced option.

Now, what you said makes sense. 🤔❤😃

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