Are members selfish or just wicked?

[Ivorie De La Mare]

It is assumed that in any group where people are welcome, those in need are given a helping hand, but in this Joy of Statan group, I am yet to find one person who is generous enough to assist in anyway.
We cannot all be experts in calling satan or being able to talk to him, just like how we can't all be doctors or teachers for example, thus the usual call for help. However, in this group, any question leads to someone sending you a link which its instructions doesn't work, and emails to so called members who have the biggest mouths on all issues, but never respond to issues of help calling.
My curiousity is, how do existing members recruit more members if they are not willing to share or help the helpless ones the least?
Is this a case of selfishness or pure wickedness? And this is how the followers of satan are supposed to grow?
I guess I am in a wrong group.

 

[Serpentfire666]

We are not 'recruiting' anyone can come and go as they please. This is not xianity for sheep. Zevism is not for everyone. We are not politically correct, we are ALL still learning on this path many even ADVANCED members get attacked often and have a lot to deal with. We get nutcases and infiltraitors posting here and emailing us often in private. We get stalkers and creeps. What I do on here when time permits is for Satan in the hope someone with one ear open and the other ear shut actually listens instead of knowledge shooting through their brain and off and out the other side again.

We encourage people to THINK FOR THEMSELVES, study and experience for themselves, not rely on strangers on the internet or in some church for their spiritual wellbeing.

Iv'e had my account hacked, private emails and messages spied on, Ive woken up with bruises over my legs and nightmares from attacks, I have SEEN greys with my own eyes, been pushed into walls by unseen entities you name it and noone but Satan. Worst cases he helped but He also directs me to infomation and rituals to help myself. We get attacked for helping people like you who come here by unseen assailants and then by the people who we try to Help.

This is not a church where some guy in a robe tells you what to do to get to heaven. Anyone can act like a know it all on the internet and tell you things that are wrong, it is up to YOU to study and test and question everything you are told and read.

Some members spend all their free time on Zevist studies because they want to advance faster and help others with infomation. They rarely get a thankyou. Satan opens the door you choose wether to walk through that door or not. Few start out with psychic ability or an ability to hear Demons you have to practice... it dosn't happen over night it can take months or years.

Are we selfish or are you just ungratefull and lazy?

Ave Zeus!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Ivorie De La Mare <iv0rie@... wrote:

It is assumed that in any group where people are welcome, those in need are given a helping hand, but in this Joy of Statan group, I am yet to find one person who is generous enough to assist in anyway.

We cannot all be experts in calling satan or being able to talk to him, just like how we can't all be doctors or teachers for example, thus the usual call for help. However, in this group, any question leads to someone sending you a link which its instructions doesn't work, and emails to so called members who have the biggest mouths on all issues, but never respond to issues of help calling.

My curiousity is, how do existing members recruit more members if they are not willing to share or help the helpless ones the least?

Is this a case of selfishness or pure wickedness? And this is how the followers of satan are supposed to grow?

I guess I am in a wrong group.

 

[Mc Rundown]

Stop being lazy and work hard. Nothing wil come your way in life by complaining and looking to others for help. Most answers to many questions can be found when you commit your time to research. Nobody wil spoon feed you here but in most cases alot of genuine questions are answerd satisfactory here.

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------Original message------
From: Forums Contributor <mageson6666@...
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sunday, June 9, 2013 7:05:00 PM GMT-0700
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Are members selfish or just wicked?

Well starting off by referring to the long term and experienced members here. Who freely offer their time and help to others. As "Big mouths."
 
Is quite revealing on your part. Maybe thats why nobody wants to reply to you. Since you have a resentiful sense of entitlement. Which you believe gives you the right to behave like an asshole to other people here when you don't get your way, especially.
 
At this point by reading the mainsites, the ToZ News Letter and using the search function in the egroups one could find an answer to 99.9% of most of the questions commonly asked. But since your obviously a lazy asshole who just wants attention and sympathy....
 


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From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 3:11:06 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Are members selfish or just wicked?


 

Are you a troll, a jew or just plain stupid?? I'm guessing the first one and the second together, although there is such thing as stupid jewish trolls Because only jewish trolls whine about false accusations where there's absolutely no problem.

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, Ivorie De La Mare <iv0rie@.. wrote:

It is assumed that in any group where people are welcome, those in need are given a helping hand, but in this Joy of Statan group, I am yet to find one person who is generous enough to assist in anyway.

We cannot all be experts in calling satan or being able to talk to him, just like how we can't all be doctors or teachers for example, thus the usual call for help. However, in this group, any question leads to someone sending you a link which its instructions doesn't work, and emails to so called members who have the biggest mouths on all issues, but never respond to issues of help calling.

My curiousity is, how do existing members recruit more members if they are not willing to share or help the helpless ones the least?

Is this a case of selfishness or pure wickedness? And this is how the followers of satan are supposed to grow?

I guess I am in a wrong group.

 

[nevinbennetch]

I have had some questions and nearly all were answered.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Ivorie De La Mare <iv0rie@... wrote:

It is assumed that in any group where people are welcome, those in need are given a helping hand, but in this Joy of Statan group, I am yet to find one person who is generous enough to assist in anyway.

We cannot all be experts in calling satan or being able to talk to him, just like how we can't all be doctors or teachers for example, thus the usual call for help. However, in this group, any question leads to someone sending you a link which its instructions doesn't work, and emails to so called members who have the biggest mouths on all issues, but never respond to issues of help calling.

My curiousity is, how do existing members recruit more members if they are not willing to share or help the helpless ones the least?

Is this a case of selfishness or pure wickedness? And this is how the followers of satan are supposed to grow?

I guess I am in a wrong group.

 

[blackmoon0343]

It's not hard to talk to Father if you can't do a standard ritual. You can just picture his sigil in you head and talk to him in your mind. We give out links, because we don't know if that person read the ToZ website or not. If something on there confuses you, you can ask what confuses you and we will try our best to help you.

We don't really recruit members. People come here, because they want a better understanding of what Zevism is. If things are not clear or are confusing, just say exactly what confuses you or what you need help with.

Zevism is mostly about independence. You're suppose to empower yourself on your own, but that doesn't mean you can't come here and ask questions.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Ivorie De La Mare <iv0rie@... wrote:

It is assumed that in any group where people are welcome, those in need are given a helping hand, but in this Joy of Statan group, I am yet to find one person who is generous enough to assist in anyway.

We cannot all be experts in calling satan or being able to talk to him, just like how we can't all be doctors or teachers for example, thus the usual call for help. However, in this group, any question leads to someone sending you a link which its instructions doesn't work, and emails to so called members who have the biggest mouths on all issues, but never respond to issues of help calling.

My curiousity is, how do existing members recruit more members if they are not willing to share or help the helpless ones the least?

Is this a case of selfishness or pure wickedness? And this is how the followers of satan are supposed to grow?

I guess I am in a wrong group.

 

[Preston Larson]

I agree with this here statement.  Knowledge and Power are earned.  Meditation after meditation.  Getting to know ones self.  Break through barriers in the mind.  KNOW you can do things.  Believe in yourself.  Believe that what you are doing is working.  Keep a black journal/diary. Ave Zeus and all gods friendly to humanity and worthy of respect.
 

To: [email protected]
From: egon88@...
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 19:32:52 +0000
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Are members selfish or just wicked?

  Is Satan so week that he don't give enough ways to anyone help themselves? So it is necessary be carried in anyone's back?
"someone sending you a link which its instructions doesn't work"
I'm curious about this part. So you are too lazy to do what everyone who fallowed ToZ instructions and are now enough capable? If it don't works is only for yehuborim AND ONLY yehuborim!
Zevism is not Xtianity, which you pray and be a good sheep and supposedly a jewish character will solve all your problems.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Ivorie De La Mare <iv0rie@... wrote:

It is assumed that in any group where people are welcome, those in need are given a helping hand, but in this Joy of Statan group, I am yet to find one person who is generous enough to assist in anyway.

We cannot all be experts in calling satan or being able to talk to him, just like how we can't all be doctors or teachers for example, thus the usual call for help. However, in this group, any question leads to someone sending you a link which its instructions doesn't work, and emails to so called members who have the biggest mouths on all issues, but never respond to issues of help calling.

My curiousity is, how do existing members recruit more members if they are not willing to share or help the helpless ones the least?

Is this a case of selfishness or pure wickedness? And this is how the followers of satan are supposed to grow?

I guess I am in a wrong group.

 

[Aquarian Clown]

we ARE helping by not helping.

lemme ask you a question, what kind of a person is called a spoiled child? a child who is capable of nothing and didnt grow up at all, its not the child's fault, its the fault of the ones who raised the child. think bout it.

still dont get it? ok. parents are NOT helping by helping on everything the child does, the child will never be independent. some parents do this on purpose so that the child CANT leave them coz the child doesnt know how to do a stuff by himself.

instructions that dont work? maybe u cant read.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Ivorie De La Mare <iv0rie@... wrote:

It is assumed that in any group where people are welcome, those in need are given a helping hand, but in this Joy of Statan group, I am yet to find one person who is generous enough to assist in anyway.

We cannot all be experts in calling satan or being able to talk to him, just like how we can't all be doctors or teachers for example, thus the usual call for help. However, in this group, any question leads to someone sending you a link which its instructions doesn't work, and emails to so called members who have the biggest mouths on all issues, but never respond to issues of help calling.

My curiousity is, how do existing members recruit more members if they are not willing to share or help the helpless ones the least?

Is this a case of selfishness or pure wickedness? And this is how the followers of satan are supposed to grow?

I guess I am in a wrong group.

 

[High Priestess Myla Limlal]

u would grow if u really try on ur own
having things handle , u will never learn
practice and be persistent on meditations
blaming others for nothing helping
something u can always find a way to fix on ur own
has many of us here had done before, and turn out fine.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Ivorie De La Mare <iv0rie@... wrote:

It is assumed that in any group where people are welcome, those in need are given a helping hand, but in this Joy of Statan group, I am yet to find one person who is generous enough to assist in anyway.

We cannot all be experts in calling satan or being able to talk to him, just like how we can't all be doctors or teachers for example, thus the usual call for help. However, in this group, any question leads to someone sending you a link which its instructions doesn't work, and emails to so called members who have the biggest mouths on all issues, but never respond to issues of help calling.

My curiousity is, how do existing members recruit more members if they are not willing to share or help the helpless ones the least?

Is this a case of selfishness or pure wickedness? And this is how the followers of satan are supposed to grow?

I guess I am in a wrong group.

 

[chaos_and_order_666]

I guess it depends on which path you follow, the right hand path where you worship Satan, or the left hand path where you put yourself in front and treat Satan simply as a friend to you. To learn how to be a little independent and think for yourself.

Have you done plenty of studying? Do you keep an open mind to what your mind is capable of? Do you keep up your level of power with power meditations or whichever way you generate power? Perhaps you can explore the Astral realms and gain knowledge and experience from the vast amount of uniquely different individuals out there. Learn skills and tricks. Do not forget the mentioning on the ToZ site how Gods of Great rank usually only assist their intimate friends and confidantes.

Hail the Gods of Elysium

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "egon_88_666" <egon88@... wrote:

Is Satan so week that he don't give enough ways to anyone help themselves? So it is necessary be carried in anyone's back?
"someone sending you a link which its instructions doesn't work"
I'm curious about this part. So you are too lazy to do what everyone who fallowed ToZ instructions and are now enough capable? If it don't works is only for yehuborim AND ONLY yehuborim!
Zevism is not Xtianity, which you pray and be a good sheep and supposedly a jewish character will solve all your problems.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Ivorie De La Mare <iv0rie@ wrote:

It is assumed that in any group where people are welcome, those in need are given a helping hand, but in this Joy of Statan group, I am yet to find one person who is generous enough to assist in anyway.

We cannot all be experts in calling satan or being able to talk to him, just like how we can't all be doctors or teachers for example, thus the usual call for help. However, in this group, any question leads to someone sending you a link which its instructions doesn't work, and emails to so called members who have the biggest mouths on all issues, but never respond to issues of help calling.

My curiousity is, how do existing members recruit more members if they are not willing to share or help the helpless ones the least?

Is this a case of selfishness or pure wickedness? And this is how the followers of satan are supposed to grow?

I guess I am in a wrong group.

 

[hail_satan11]

Zevism is about SELF-empowerment. It's up to you to figure out what works for you. Satan allows you to be as you are, you just can't go against him.

In other words, we are expected to gain knowledge on our own. We are all learning at the same rate but not everyone learns the same things. In Zevism we learn what we need to know when we're ready for it. Have faith that Father Satan will take you where you need to go.

Ave Zeus!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Ivorie De La Mare <iv0rie@... wrote:

It is assumed that in any group where people are welcome, those in need are given a helping hand, but in this Joy of Statan group, I am yet to find one person who is generous enough to assist in anyway.

We cannot all be experts in calling satan or being able to talk to him, just like how we can't all be doctors or teachers for example, thus the usual call for help. However, in this group, any question leads to someone sending you a link which its instructions doesn't work, and emails to so called members who have the biggest mouths on all issues, but never respond to issues of help calling.

My curiousity is, how do existing members recruit more members if they are not willing to share or help the helpless ones the least?

Is this a case of selfishness or pure wickedness? And this is how the followers of satan are supposed to grow?

I guess I am in a wrong group.

 

[the_fire_starter666]

You misunderstand it, the RHP ALWAYS REFERS TO ENEMY RELIGIONS. And it's irrelevant whether somebody worships a being or not, for example Buddhism is RHP nonsense but it's atheistic. The difference is the TEACHINGS. RHP teachings are self-denial and nonsense like that, and working to destroy your soul and becoming a nothing and thinking that all is one and related crap.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "chaos_and_order_666" <hankmccoy615@... wrote:

I guess it depends on which path you follow, the right hand path where you worship Satan, or the left hand path where you put yourself in front and treat Satan simply as a friend to you. To learn how to be a little independent and think for yourself.

Have you done plenty of studying? Do you keep an open mind to what your mind is capable of? Do you keep up your level of power with power meditations or whichever way you generate power? Perhaps you can explore the Astral realms and gain knowledge and experience from the vast amount of uniquely different individuals out there. Learn skills and tricks. Do not forget the mentioning on the ToZ site how Gods of Great rank usually only assist their intimate friends and confidantes.

Hail the Gods of Elysium

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "egon_88_666" <egon88@ wrote:

Is Satan so week that he don't give enough ways to anyone help themselves? So it is necessary be carried in anyone's back?
"someone sending you a link which its instructions doesn't work"
I'm curious about this part. So you are too lazy to do what everyone who fallowed ToZ instructions and are now enough capable? If it don't works is only for yehuborim AND ONLY yehuborim!
Zevism is not Xtianity, which you pray and be a good sheep and supposedly a jewish character will solve all your problems.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Ivorie De La Mare <iv0rie@ wrote:

It is assumed that in any group where people are welcome, those in need are given a helping hand, but in this Joy of Statan group, I am yet to find one person who is generous enough to assist in anyway.

We cannot all be experts in calling satan or being able to talk to him, just like how we can't all be doctors or teachers for example, thus the usual call for help. However, in this group, any question leads to someone sending you a link which its instructions doesn't work, and emails to so called members who have the biggest mouths on all issues, but never respond to issues of help calling.

My curiousity is, how do existing members recruit more members if they are not willing to share or help the helpless ones the least?

Is this a case of selfishness or pure wickedness? And this is how the followers of satan are supposed to grow?

I guess I am in a wrong group.

 

[Seun Iyaomolere]

Reply to Mc Rundown that through




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On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 12:50 AM PDT Mc Rundown wrote:

Stop being lazy and work hard. Nothing wil come your way in life by complaining and looking to others for help. Most answers to many questions can be found when you commit your time to research. Nobody wil spoon feed you here but in most cases alot of genuine questions are answerd satisfactory here.

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Sent via Nokia Email

------Original message------
From: Forums Contributor <mageson6666@...
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sunday, June 9, 2013 7:05:00 PM GMT-0700
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Are members selfish or just wicked?

Well starting off by referring to the long term and experienced members here. Who freely offer their time and help to others. As "Big mouths."
 
Is quite revealing on your part. Maybe thats why nobody wants to reply to you. Since you have a resentiful sense of entitlement. Which you believe gives you the right to behave like an asshole to other people here when you don't get your way, especially.
 
At this point by reading the mainsites, the ToZ News Letter and using the search function in the egroups one could find an answer to 99.9% of most of the questions commonly asked. But since your obviously a lazy asshole who just wants attention and sympathy....
 


________________________________
From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 3:11:06 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Are members selfish or just wicked?


 

Are you a troll, a jew or just plain stupid?? I'm guessing the first one and the second together, although there is such thing as stupid jewish trolls Because only jewish trolls whine about false accusations where there's absolutely no problem.

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, Ivorie De La Mare <iv0rie@.. wrote:

It is assumed that in any group where people are welcome, those in need are given a helping hand, but in this Joy of Statan group, I am yet to find one person who is generous enough to assist in anyway.

We cannot all be experts in calling satan or being able to talk to him, just like how we can't all be doctors or teachers for example, thus the usual call for help. However, in this group, any question leads to someone sending you a link which its instructions doesn't work, and emails to so called members who have the biggest mouths on all issues, but never respond to issues of help calling.

My curiousity is, how do existing members recruit more members if they are not willing to share or help the helpless ones the least?

Is this a case of selfishness or pure wickedness? And this is how the followers of satan are supposed to grow?

I guess I am in a wrong group.

 

[ckeva007]

I have a question with regards to the following statement from an answer below:

"If it don't works is only for yehuborim AND ONLY yehuborim!"

I was born into a jewish family and had to follow the traditions as a child, even though I never did it willfully, just as someone could be born into a catholic family or a muslim family.
I hate yehuborim, xians and muslims alike, but I can't hate my own family, even if they are jewish. They are just as unknowingly indoctrinated as everyone else.

I may have jewish blood running through my veins, but I am a dedicated Zevist who has renounced everything jewish about me. You can't tell me that because I'm jewish by birth things won't work for me. Anyone, from any walk of life can dedicate themselves to Satan and have just as much chance as anyone else of having things work from them.

People should be careful what they say in these posts. Saying things like this can turn followers away because they think they're not worthy or good enough to be a follower of Satan. I felt that way for a while after reading certain posts in this group.

Satan will accept ANYONE who pledges allegiance to Him and dedicates themselves fully to Him!

Ave Zeus!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Preston Larson <seattle.richardson@... wrote:

I agree with this here statement. Knowledge and Power are earned. Meditation after meditation. Getting to know ones self. Break through barriers in the mind. KNOW you can do things. Believe in yourself. Believe that what you are doing is working. Keep a black journal/diary. Ave Zeus and all gods friendly to humanity and worthy of respect.

To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: egon88@...
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 19:32:52 +0000
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Are members selfish or just wicked?


























Is Satan so week that he don't give enough ways to anyone help themselves? So it is necessary be carried in anyone's back?

"someone sending you a link which its instructions doesn't work"

I'm curious about this part. So you are too lazy to do what everyone who fallowed ToZ instructions and are now enough capable? If it don't works is only for yehuborim AND ONLY yehuborim!

Zevism is not Xtianity, which you pray and be a good sheep and supposedly a jewish character will solve all your problems.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Ivorie De La Mare <iv0rie@ wrote:



It is assumed that in any group where people are welcome, those in need are given a helping hand, but in this Joy of Statan group, I am yet to find one person who is generous enough to assist in anyway.



We cannot all be experts in calling satan or being able to talk to him, just like how we can't all be doctors or teachers for example, thus the usual call for help. However, in this group, any question leads to someone sending you a link which its instructions doesn't work, and emails to so called members who have the biggest mouths on all issues, but never respond to issues of help calling.



My curiousity is, how do existing members recruit more members if they are not willing to share or help the helpless ones the least?



Is this a case of selfishness or pure wickedness? And this is how the followers of satan are supposed to grow?



I guess I am in a wrong group.

 

[Louis Cypher]

From: nevinbennetch <nevinbennetch@...;
To: <[email protected];
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Are members selfish or just wicked?
Sent: Sun, Jun 9, 2013 7:17:00 PM

<td val[/IMG]   I have had some questions and nearly all were answered.

--- [/IMG][email protected], Ivorie De La Mare <iv0rie@... wrote:

It is assumed that in any group where people are welcome, those in need are given a helping hand, but in this Joy of Statan group, I am yet to find one person who is generous enough to assist in anyway.

We cannot all be experts in calling satan or being able to talk to him, just like how we can't all be doctors or teachers for example, thus the usual call for help. However, in this group, any question leads to someone sending you a link which its instructions doesn't work, and emails to so called members who have the biggest mouths on all issues, but never respond to issues of help calling.

My curiousity is, how do existing members recruit more members if they are not willing to share or help the helpless ones the least?

Is this a case of selfishness or pure wickedness? And this is how the followers of satan are supposed to grow?

I guess I am in a wrong group.

[/TD]