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I put here all my confusions in relation to agreements...
Please take into consideration the answers to the following questions will make me improve significantly
i really need this , thanks a lot.
( I also believe it will better many members relationship with the Gods)
Otherwise i will be forced to wait until i hear the Gods to get answers from them..
Since i succeed at summonings ( with the grace of Gods, not because i am "so good" ) but the agreement part im so bad at..
I have read many threads about Oaths/ Promises/ Agreements/ offerings, i feel i will either:
-make low quality offerings
-break agreements
-never break agreements i.e. never make one
I just feel risk outweight benefit..
This is because i have the following questions , it will be very helpful if one of you answers, since i will master that area that i am very weak in
Oaths and promises
First of all in Zevism is their a difference between the two? Same way prayer and summoning are both prayers..?
I have tried to never give a promise for the simple reason of never breaking it, but i did, 2 were related to a help i will get from Gods, 1 was a promise for my GD that i will improve in a specific day in specific ways since i felt my GD is waiting for me so bad to take next steps, this one i did not fulfill
The two related to help are still pending from both sides if i am not mistaken, i will fulfill them, the one that was related to me without asking for help i did not fulfill and cannot since that day passed and promise was related to that specific day..
My questions are
1. Are oaths / promises ( besides the times of asking for something and giving in return ) related only to the initiate? i.e. it makes you gain no favour from Gods , besides them seing that you stand on your word and then them trusting you more for that, since in my case it just overwhelms me , makes me think i may break it and if i break it i feel bad for so long so its better if i keep promises to myself , why do that with Gods?
2.when we ask for something and offer in return, is it better that we do our end first? Then the God start doing his end and also take the agreement more seriously than the ones in which he fulfill before the initiate, or its the same?
3. I have idea to never break promise , its to make agreement and ask the God to not fulfill his part and not consider the agreement valid until my end is fulfilled, what about that?
4. In case the previous promises are hunting someone causing him guilty feelings should he forget about all and start a new chapter or the best thing to do is for example find something to do that will resolve all the previous things? i.e. an agreement where Gods Part is {considering all previous agreements fulfilled by initiate}, and the initiate state what to offer in return for that
5.are agreements as serious as dedication ritual? I mean , literally when we do one we consider it VERY REAL, SACRED and DONE?
Should one forget about Gods not fulfilling their part? At least mostly?
6.generally when one finds him self stuck with promises/oaths / agreements instead of feeling he ruined his relationship with Gods is there an X Y Z to do to resolve this and be able to advance?
7. Is it better to offer a very small promise rather than big one and fail?But do Gods accept small promises as offerings?
As an example instead of getting excited , saying i will do 6 of your rituals instead of saying i will do 40..
But i do not know if its appropriate to ask something big and give small..
But in a way, what we offer is always small.. what do you think?
8. To solve 7, can i make agreement and say :[ i want X i will give Y ] thats agreement , but i intend to add "Z" too , excluded from agreement to make sure its fulfilled, in same time showing my intention to do more , this to avoid being excited and saying something that cannot be fulfilled... And in same time if i do not do Z its okay.. or i can do 2% from Z.. at least its better than breaking agreements
9. Can we start making everything an offering to have better realtion with Gods i.e. eating is an offering , work is an offering, meditation etc..
For example after working today i set intention this was an offering to "God name" , etc.., if possible should it be intended before or after? I mean should i before i start working say the following is offering to "God name" or its okay to say that after doing it too
10. Can charity be an offering? If yes how? For example buying things for animals who live in the streets? Or giving charity to a human but how intention is set , should i think " this charity is an offering to "God name"? What about telling the person this is from "Gods name here" ?
11.can spending 20 minutes affirming gratitude in relation to the God be an offering?
12.can reading a book that will improve me be an offering?
13. If i make promise that i will do X daily and i miss a day, is all offering ruined or not? If not how to continue? Just normally like nothing happened? ( While recognising the mistake) since technically in those type of offerings missing a day = fail, should one just include this in agreement? ( I may fail at keeping consistency if i do i will do X Y Z to resolve)..
14.this may sound weird , but can mocking religions , either publicly , with friends or relatives or whatever or alone privatly mocking and humiliating a religion like doing something bad with the book, or writing a page of the book in reverse, or stuff like that, i can be creative, ( i hope I HOPE THIS IS CONSIDERED OFFERING lol)
15. I heard some do that in some cultures, can one make food put in table with somes roses , rose water and lit candles and keep that like that either for a period then turning off candles or to keep it like that until candle is finished
16. Do Gods take every act we do into consideration or only the ones done as offerings, sometimes one can do many things that are considered offerings but with other intentions
17. Can writing a poem or text glorifying the God act as an offering? Is it okay if i fill it with affirmations in relation to me too do that i benefit too, so we both benefit by me chanting a small music / reading poem / honoring thr God / expressing gratitude?
Is it Good idea to twist the some lines from other religions and make them honor our Gods? Like a line glorifying jesus and i put instead our Gods there?
( I really hope we can)
18.Can i in the agreement add the backup for breaking agreement?
[ I ask for X, i offer Y, if i fail to i will offer Z( easier offering & guarantees fulfillement of agreement, i may do it even out of laziness , at least probability of not fulfilling will be reduced significantly , also in case of missing out of other reasons i have backup..)]
19. Can agreements overlap? If i make agreement and do not receive yet, or just want to, to increase belief, can i make new one and offer again and fulfill again or is it like dedication rituzl done once? Or its okay to overlap
Can i also overlap with reaching to different Gods in relation to same problem?
20. Can we do agreements on behalf of the loved ones? Even if they are muslim/ christian? And in case i am sure they are open minded can i tell them the demon that will help them?
21. When the thing we ask for is complex or has multiple layers , can i summon Zeus and do agreement and he will assign based on how the situation should be treated?
Thanks a lot in advance
Note: i understand that showing i am serious plays a huge role in this, so offering something small in a "tricky" way like a loophold i know this is bad..
I believe the Gods value the serioussness of the initiate and take it into consideration
Please take into consideration the answers to the following questions will make me improve significantly
i really need this , thanks a lot.( I also believe it will better many members relationship with the Gods)
Otherwise i will be forced to wait until i hear the Gods to get answers from them..
Since i succeed at summonings ( with the grace of Gods, not because i am "so good" ) but the agreement part im so bad at..
I have read many threads about Oaths/ Promises/ Agreements/ offerings, i feel i will either:
-make low quality offerings
-break agreements
-never break agreements i.e. never make one
I just feel risk outweight benefit..
This is because i have the following questions , it will be very helpful if one of you answers, since i will master that area that i am very weak in
Oaths and promises
First of all in Zevism is their a difference between the two? Same way prayer and summoning are both prayers..?
I have tried to never give a promise for the simple reason of never breaking it, but i did, 2 were related to a help i will get from Gods, 1 was a promise for my GD that i will improve in a specific day in specific ways since i felt my GD is waiting for me so bad to take next steps, this one i did not fulfill
The two related to help are still pending from both sides if i am not mistaken, i will fulfill them, the one that was related to me without asking for help i did not fulfill and cannot since that day passed and promise was related to that specific day..
My questions are
1. Are oaths / promises ( besides the times of asking for something and giving in return ) related only to the initiate? i.e. it makes you gain no favour from Gods , besides them seing that you stand on your word and then them trusting you more for that, since in my case it just overwhelms me , makes me think i may break it and if i break it i feel bad for so long so its better if i keep promises to myself , why do that with Gods?
2.when we ask for something and offer in return, is it better that we do our end first? Then the God start doing his end and also take the agreement more seriously than the ones in which he fulfill before the initiate, or its the same?
3. I have idea to never break promise , its to make agreement and ask the God to not fulfill his part and not consider the agreement valid until my end is fulfilled, what about that?
4. In case the previous promises are hunting someone causing him guilty feelings should he forget about all and start a new chapter or the best thing to do is for example find something to do that will resolve all the previous things? i.e. an agreement where Gods Part is {considering all previous agreements fulfilled by initiate}, and the initiate state what to offer in return for that
5.are agreements as serious as dedication ritual? I mean , literally when we do one we consider it VERY REAL, SACRED and DONE?
Should one forget about Gods not fulfilling their part? At least mostly?
6.generally when one finds him self stuck with promises/oaths / agreements instead of feeling he ruined his relationship with Gods is there an X Y Z to do to resolve this and be able to advance?
7. Is it better to offer a very small promise rather than big one and fail?But do Gods accept small promises as offerings?
As an example instead of getting excited , saying i will do 6 of your rituals instead of saying i will do 40..
But i do not know if its appropriate to ask something big and give small..
But in a way, what we offer is always small.. what do you think?
8. To solve 7, can i make agreement and say :[ i want X i will give Y ] thats agreement , but i intend to add "Z" too , excluded from agreement to make sure its fulfilled, in same time showing my intention to do more , this to avoid being excited and saying something that cannot be fulfilled... And in same time if i do not do Z its okay.. or i can do 2% from Z.. at least its better than breaking agreements
9. Can we start making everything an offering to have better realtion with Gods i.e. eating is an offering , work is an offering, meditation etc..
For example after working today i set intention this was an offering to "God name" , etc.., if possible should it be intended before or after? I mean should i before i start working say the following is offering to "God name" or its okay to say that after doing it too
10. Can charity be an offering? If yes how? For example buying things for animals who live in the streets? Or giving charity to a human but how intention is set , should i think " this charity is an offering to "God name"? What about telling the person this is from "Gods name here" ?
11.can spending 20 minutes affirming gratitude in relation to the God be an offering?
12.can reading a book that will improve me be an offering?
13. If i make promise that i will do X daily and i miss a day, is all offering ruined or not? If not how to continue? Just normally like nothing happened? ( While recognising the mistake) since technically in those type of offerings missing a day = fail, should one just include this in agreement? ( I may fail at keeping consistency if i do i will do X Y Z to resolve)..
14.this may sound weird , but can mocking religions , either publicly , with friends or relatives or whatever or alone privatly mocking and humiliating a religion like doing something bad with the book, or writing a page of the book in reverse, or stuff like that, i can be creative, ( i hope I HOPE THIS IS CONSIDERED OFFERING lol)
15. I heard some do that in some cultures, can one make food put in table with somes roses , rose water and lit candles and keep that like that either for a period then turning off candles or to keep it like that until candle is finished
16. Do Gods take every act we do into consideration or only the ones done as offerings, sometimes one can do many things that are considered offerings but with other intentions
17. Can writing a poem or text glorifying the God act as an offering? Is it okay if i fill it with affirmations in relation to me too do that i benefit too, so we both benefit by me chanting a small music / reading poem / honoring thr God / expressing gratitude?
Is it Good idea to twist the some lines from other religions and make them honor our Gods? Like a line glorifying jesus and i put instead our Gods there?
( I really hope we can)
18.Can i in the agreement add the backup for breaking agreement?
[ I ask for X, i offer Y, if i fail to i will offer Z( easier offering & guarantees fulfillement of agreement, i may do it even out of laziness , at least probability of not fulfilling will be reduced significantly , also in case of missing out of other reasons i have backup..)]
19. Can agreements overlap? If i make agreement and do not receive yet, or just want to, to increase belief, can i make new one and offer again and fulfill again or is it like dedication rituzl done once? Or its okay to overlap
Can i also overlap with reaching to different Gods in relation to same problem?
20. Can we do agreements on behalf of the loved ones? Even if they are muslim/ christian? And in case i am sure they are open minded can i tell them the demon that will help them?
21. When the thing we ask for is complex or has multiple layers , can i summon Zeus and do agreement and he will assign based on how the situation should be treated?
Thanks a lot in advance
Note: i understand that showing i am serious plays a huge role in this, so offering something small in a "tricky" way like a loophold i know this is bad..
I believe the Gods value the serioussness of the initiate and take it into consideration
