A Womans Body

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Just so you know, after a certain point is reached, there is no going back, and if you willingly jump into personal and permanent disaster, nobody will be able to save you, not even the Gods.

You have the chance now to get out this vicious cycle of suffering, once and for all, instead of going deeper and deeper into it, until there awaits you nothing but sorrow and disaster.

You know yourself what you have to do, and deep down you know that this is not quite right.

If you still want to go down that road, you are willingly jumping into disaster, and nobody will be able to stop you.

It is hard to give up on your strongest and deepest desire, eventho it is wrong. It is not wrong to desire things, altho it is very wrong and also unnatural to destroy yourself. Zevism is about natural laws, and one main instinct is that of maintainance and survival.

Just know, if you do the right decision right now, then yes you will suffer now, but this suffering will be only temporary, where as the suffering where you are heading will be eternal, just like you have suffered for so many lifetimes.

You have to chance to change everything, into a happy and strong future, as you are very strong right now,
Or you destroy everything you have built up so far and run into disaster.

The Gods has the Power to force you into not doing it, they will not force you, as they respect free will, however, they will make it very clear to you that this is not the right path. If you are still going against the Gods will, which is what is best for you, it is your own decision. If I could I would force you into not doing it, but I can not.

No matter what you do you will suffer. But you get to choose to face reality and grow with it, and go into a happy future, or choose to end everything. It is really up to you.
I do hope my words got through to you and you consider them.

In short, you will never be able to attain Motherhood and become a mother.

What they want is to attain true woman and motherhood, which is not possible at all, and will simply hurt and harm them to the very core.

It is not truly possible, it is a desperate attempt, which will result in disaster, deep down they know it, but they are not able to let fully go of their desire, that’s why they still want to do it.

I disagree, I do not see a person that wants to attain true womanhood here, or motherhood.

Because they fail to even nurture themselves, how could anyone that fails even that understand motherhood or womanhood in any form?

They do not seek womanhood, they seek to deceive themselves until the end because facing reality is difficult to them, and self deception will give one a vain sense of happiness for a time while you remain willfully ignorant of the painful facts that one tries to escape from.

Of course, reality comes around to put you back in place after a short while, crushing the person and their delusions underfoot, but if one remains ignorant to the end by completely falling into delusion and living this delusion in all aspects of life, one will only feel that crushing all consuming pain in ones final moment as the soul dies forever.

Before that time, even though in reality one will be depressed and broken deep inside, just like a person high on drugs, the deluded person will trick themselves through blissful ignorance that indeed they are very happy and accomplished in life.

Unfortunately, this always ends in destruction.

As for the questions I "asked", they are purely rhetorical, to give perspective to the idiocy of the thoughts and ideas for the person themselves.

There is no logical thinking involved.

Just like you would sacrifice your very existence for Satan, Astarte or the Demons, if needed, which other normal people would never understand.

Just like Meteor would risk their existence to attain their unattainable goal, which we can not understand.

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The main difference here is the value of the thing one sacrifices for, and the value that sacrifice brings.

People may not understand such a thing, but the person themselves should.

Even for me, I certainly would not hesitate to sacrifice for the Gods in times where it is needed, but I of course would not do so in vain, I would not do it mindlessly, because my own existence brings far greater value of I continue to exist and grow, therefore the gain from the sacrifice would have to outweigh the loss of future growth.

The Gods even themselves do not want Zevism to sacrifice themselves totally, as indeed the loss of growth is often greater in the long term than what a momentary sacrifice can bring.

This is more complex than just a simple equation though, sacrifice is a significant event in ones existence.

To sacrifice for something so worthless as what meteor is planning on doing, which in their mind is not a sacrifice at all because they feel as though it will purely gain them something of immense value (which is not the case, it will in fact cost them something invaluable), is pure insanity.

As for whether people could get through to me, in fact they can, because I am a conscious being that considers deeply all aspects of a choice and here this choice leads to.

I look at deeply as I can to the future potentials a decision can bring and where a decision can lead, I do not decide on things lightly or with a limited view, and certainly not from a low ego perspective, but as high of a perspective I am able to reach.

If I plan on something and a wise person tells me to reconsider this, I listen to them, and perhaps I find I had not thought things through properly so I reconsider after taking good advice.

This has happened a few times in my life, especially with my GD's and a few good Zevist brothers and sisters helping me out at times.

On the other hand, there are many wiser, smarter and more powerful beings trying to advice and help meteor, yet they close themselves of because they wish to remain ignorant of truth since the truth weighs heavily on them.

This pain they wish to avoid at all cost, even at cost of their existence, but they do not understand how heavy existence really is which is why they can make such a foolish assessment of value of themselves and the consequence of their choice.

I wish for them to realize the error they are making before they reach the point of no return, because I have seen where this leads to in many people, therefore even if they do not listen, I still continue to tell them what they need to understand.

Even if it doesn't help them, then later I can show this to other people going through the same after it is apparent where rejecting good advice has lead Meteor, so other people may avoid this same fate.

There are more reasons why I decided to step in than just for meteors own sake.

Not quite appropriate.
Btw are you GG Alin?

No I’m me. GG Allin is some weird punk rock guy that’s been dead for a long time now.

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I fully understand you and agree with you 666%
You are protective and caring for your fellow Zevists, I appreciate that!

You said once you believed truly that you and your fiancé were perfect for each other, and yet in your own words, they can’t even love who you are because they’d rather love an illusion than you. You choose to continue appeasing someone else’s selfish delusions and inability to own up to what they truly want and need instead of pulling yourself up, facing your own fears, and advancing properly. How insane are you to continue willingly allowing someone you care about to live in and satisfy their delusions at your expense? This isn’t some simple negotiation to find a balance between personal differences, this is full on body alteration to be something you are not and can’t be no matter how many times you choose knives and stitches over basic reality, harm yourself on a soul level, for someone else’s lies and your own.

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Don't you see that it takes two to play a game? For me - who already wanted to change from the bottom of my heart - the person who already sees in me what I want to become, and considers this his ideal kind of woman, is truly a perfect match. I'm enjoying all of this as much as he is, perhaps even more. Can you even begin to imagine how it feels for me to read his mind, in which I am what I always wanted to be, despite my own insecurities about not having fully transformed yet? Truly, our compatibility is already astounding, and it only increases the more I fulfil my own wish to change. There's no better partner for the twisted self I am.

You should realise from your own words and feelings just how many people would be pleased if I were more obedient and just stayed a boy like I was born, bottling up all the sorrow until I couldn't take it anymore, only to disappoint them anyway when I inevitably don't live up to their expectations. This madness is my own selfish defiance. Once I further change my genetics even on the Soul level, and fix them up to remove the intersex conditions, your little criticisms will be completely futile. Can you imagine that? XX chromosomes, a healthy internal and external female reproductive system, a mother... but secretly a man, who hardly even remembers that himself? Even if it's true, who's going to believe you?

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Enjoying... while your soul screams. The way one enjoys poisoning their bodies with excessive alcohol consumption at the expense of their vital organs. You delude each other, him fueling your crazy obsession because he wants a woman not a man and that plays straight into your fears of rejection and abandonment that developed from this exact reoccurring karma pattern in the first place that you refuse to deal with. You obsessively want to alter yourself to nothing because you can't face the reality that you can't be what heterosexual men want, instead of literally just finding a man who will actually love you as you are instead of your insanity. Neither of you want to face the truth and you satisfy each other's absurd mentality. You are exactly what the enemy creates, and I'm rather pissed you played as if you had a legit reason to need that damn surgery. Your intersex problem is practically irrelevant at this point, and I'm starting to wonder if the importance of fixing that is as delusional as your obsession since you have all the parts of male genitalia with XY chromosomes, a male soul, and the only thing really screwed up to be "female" are your breasts that you mentioned going through hormone therapy to get. You are nearly 100% male physically and spiritually, but want to be female because you got rejected for being male.

"A Womans Body"... a strange and fitting title for how this thread has become. Imagine... a world where there are people who have become so insane from enemy lies and propaganda, that reality is but a myth, and animals gorge on their minds as they still breathe. Where men are made to lust over the illusions of sirens who were once men themselves, dragged to the depths to be devoured by their lies. And these men, no longer human, but willing lab experiments of the enemy's murky pool happily sing and wade the waters, as the true women are forced to watch their men descend into the darkness with a sickened and twisted smile on their faces from the shores. A world where these sirens have complete access to knowledge, magick, and meditations gifted by the Gods designed to awaken ones power and advance beyond lowly existence and the never ending torment of the enemy, but instead use it to feed their haunting creature that neither satisfies their bellies nor their thirst.

What makes you think you can defy reality and be what real women are naturally born as in flesh and soul? You see this impossibility like some sick challenge, screaming "I'll show you all! I will be what I wish and you can't stop me! And I will laugh at you all who said it was impossible when I come out on the other side as I desired!" You sound like a child having a temper tantrum as their parent confiscates their play box because they puked it in. You choose this self ruin the way an obese person chooses fattening themselves to death with junk food. You want this and can't stop needing it like a drug addict wanting heroin. What would you even do if tomorrow you were told straight up by the Gods that you cannot achieve this desire? Are you going to defy even the Gods to get your way?

My sex is already being reduced to "menstruating persons" - not even called women, because the crazies get too "offended" from us calling ourselves what we are. The enemy cursed our wombs and made us hate our periods. What more are you going to take from the real natural born women under their insanity... rob us of our gift of giving life as well through artificially created wombs? You have no idea what it means to be a woman, and your fake rip-off will be nothing compared to us who were created from the love of their parents bond as Father designed us to be. Insane people like you rob us of our role with our men. VoE is absolutely right about how fucking insulting that is.

What are you here for other than to satisfy your insanity by inappropriately using meditations and magick to aid your self destruction? You don't want to follow truth and at this point I don't think you even care to, because truth is against your desires and wishes and therefore you reject it.

A fitting song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_B0uXwLCTg

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I have something VERY important to add here that you may not have read at all or dismissed.

First off. Men and Women do NOT change gender. NEVER. This was already written a long time ago. Just like a human cannot be reincarnated as an animal an insect or a plant !!!!
This fact should be found on the website or in the library.

Secondly, in the old forums there was someone who did change "gender" and said that they regretted it sorely because of severe issues with the base / sacral chakra that they could not or hardly could fix.

Thirdly. Self-mutilation ?! Are you fucking crazy?!?!?!
HOW MUCH DO YOU HATE YOURSELF TO DO THAT?!

Have some dignity and OWN who you are and what your body is, for once. Be proud of yourself.

A fitting song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_B0uXwLCTg

This is pretty good actually.

I have something VERY important to add here that you may not have read at all or dismissed.

First off. Men and Women do NOT change gender. NEVER. This was already written a long time ago. Just like a human cannot be reincarnated as an animal an insect or a plant !!!!
This fact should be found on the website or in the library.

Secondly, in the old forums there was someone who did change "gender" and said that they regretted it sorely because of severe issues with the base / sacral chakra that they could not or hardly could fix.

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I think most of us here know of this, and agree. Meteor however insists on delusion, so there's that. Free will, however botched in most people, is free will nontheless.

It's also well known fact that mutilating genitalia will damage sacral chakra. Again, if someone insists on doing such, all I've got to say is that you reap what you sow. As long as they do not spread this bullshit around we're good.

This is pretty good actually.

Yeah, your post reminded me of that. In my teens I grew up with music like that. :)

If my ambitions are incompatible with your paradigm, then all I can say is... Thank you for everything. Hail our Gods and Goddesses.

After everything that has been said to you on this, you still do not learn and apply any of the advice we gave you, yet you have the audacity to hail the Gods and Goddesses, this action coming from you is no different than giving them the middle finger, to shit on their care and advice and everything they stand for.

Right now, you can still turn things around, however if you cross the line and ruin yourself by taking that surgery, everything will be over for you.

The Gods cannot save one from a willing conscious decent into oblivion. What you are doing is entirely incompatible with the will of the Gods, thus you will be left to your own destruction if you cross the line.

No amount of begging or whining after that point wil get you any sympathy or help from them or anyone here, and your self destruction is all but guaranteed.

However, since that is what you desire, you can go and step into oblivion to see what it is like. Do not tell me later that I didn't warn you about what will happen.

Perhaps it will take you a decade to figure out how you are about to make the worst mistake in your entire existence, but if you go down this route there comes a time you will realize the error of your ways and become painfully aware of the fact you didn't listen to us when you had the chance.

Even I cannot imagine just how broken you will feel at that moment. Worst yet, there will be nothing you can do to rectify the damage that was done.

You will remember the words I told you at that time and wish you had listened to what I said, for it is far too late at that point to change anything anymore.

After I finally have surgery, perhaps the person I used to be..

... will be more fucked up since your chakras would be damaged due to your body gets damaged.

You know I pointed out the freeing of the soul working with the intent that you would remove karma related to this nonsense that you spout by an actual viable method instead of what you are doing now. You said you burn karma by astral transformation combined with sex. Wtf? Who gave you such an idea to begin with? That is literally increasing your karma, the complete opposite what Munka does.

After all is said and done... You can not say you were not severely warned about the path you are on.

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You know there is a difference between telling your thoughts and insisting your insanity is right.

Give that a thought.

Meteor you just admitted that if the Gods do not approve of this course of action, of you doing that surgery, you say goodbye to them, as you are very bold also in stating that you disassemble and assemble nature itself for that cause. If I understood falsely please let me know.

I know our Zevists here, and I as well would sacrifice even their own tree of life in order for the Gods to succeed here on their Earth. We make sacrifices for ourselves, everything we do, with utmost passion and love from the heart and soul. Ultimately looking for a continuum of existentialism besides our Gods. Yet after all of this you yell out loud that if you do not mutilate yourself you won't be accepting anything of what this reality entails. Arrogantly shitting on everybody who has a right to care for you.

It is our right to care for you, to fight you to become better. Yet no one can make you have discernment, and more importantly, nobody can take away from you to have "liberty". No one ever.

Everyone has the liberty to choose life or death, even though not everyone knows which is which. What I know for sure, is that a passion such as yours for this wasn't seen publicly for our causes, such as disassembling nature for the demise of our enemies. I haven't seen something more than a samsaric ego and pursuit took to the extreme to the demise of the cause itself. Nobody sane wants bad health for themselves, and that is pure normality, yet somehow people are in search of bad health, and this comes from the hollow of ones soul, attracting anything for it to be identified with, as a hole needs a fitting answer.

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Then I misunderstood you, and also you misunderstood my points. There's too much lyricism and philosophy relating to what is factual and logic, brute, and cold, reality. You idealize an abstract future, which is your own desire to actualize yourself in this world, only mistranslated and grossly used. There are some other factual spiritual points relating to the process of the Serpent and other consciousness-based interactions, that have a requirement for the individual to love themselves and truly discover the sun within. I think you have enough opinions and help, seeing the number of replies and I also think everybody should focus on the present schedule and on things that actually grow ourselves. Less about talk more about action. I hope to see you grow as time grows.

These things happen easily if you engage with each other daily. Things go further and further and you get eased into it.
It is important to take distance from things and apply critical thinking.
Asking yourself weather or not things are really okay or not. And once you've made your decision, to stick firmly with it (not easy, I know).

I read the first couple of posts and was like "this is nonsense" tbh. I decided to check in on it later which basicly resulted in the above reaction.

Look, I mean, I dreamt my head got chopped off and witchcraft brought me back alive having my head on a male body this time.
Does that mean I should be a man? No. It felt weird too tbh.

You’re right on that.

It’s not the first time giving the benefit of the doubt has turned around to bite me harder than I’d like. But at least I’m not bleeding this time, munka and healing is helping to gain little by little more control… long way to go though.

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People here are bitching because they care. Tabby just went off and im sure its because of just that. Jrvan was just saying how she kept going on about you for sometime it seems. Family will get pissed if they see a member doing self harm and this is the way that works. We don't want to watch you self destruct. Analize the reasons you just gave for having this conditioning happen to you and organize a freeing the soul working to start out with....i feel for perhaps longer than 90 days.

There are traits in myself that I see in Meteor, and such traits when out of control can ruin so much of your life and self. I had a "wish"/obsession once as well and as mentioned in a previous comment, it led me straight into a cult because I couldn't let go and desperately wanted to make it happen. I was in pain, and my own obsession was an escape from my trauma and pain... I thought back then if I could reach that one thing, then everything would be better and I'd get to live the way I want to without anyone holding me back. I made a promise to my younger self I couldn't keep realistically because it wasn't possible outside the realm of dreams. I had to let go and face the truth, or my life was going to be the price. I had all kinds of magick done on me from the cult brainwashing me into believing that it would bring me closer to what I wanted to achieve, brainwashing me against even the most basic morals and ethics.

I see the same pattern in Meteor. The sad part is, he’s doing it to himself instead of a cult toying with his mind and soul. I pegged it in an earlier comment before he said it himself, but he has done magick to attempt to biokinetically turn himself into a “woman”. He hasn’t been using magick for healing like we’re trying to tell him to do. In his mind that reads as a different flavour, to him it means to continue trying to alter himself by removing the part of himself that is actually real and replace it with his insanity because he firmly believes that means “healing himself”.

Pain fueling a chosen escape that isn't possible, and because of the pain he can't stop. It's like watching someone walk in my old shoes, and knowing the outcome is nothing but more pain far far worse than what you already have gone through. They don’t listen to logic, reason, truth, or anything sane, because that’s how bad the pain is and they see no other way to overcome it even if their way will lead to their death.

I snapped at Meteor as a last ditch because I didn't listen to reason either. If it weren’t for jrvan waking me up… well, you know how it would have ended. People in that state have no ability to wake up alone, especially when there are others close to them who reinforce their insanity, and you just don't know what's going to be the trigger to wake them up. It's exhausting trying to find it. The answer is completely obvious to us, but to those like that... all they can see is blackness and their obsession. Nothing else matters to them, not even the people in their life. It’s a state of pure insanity, and as you can see, Meteor readily accepts that he’s insane but continues like a zombie to his grave.

I had a similar problem with gender, albeit no way near as extreme. I wasn't what my parents wanted. My father wanted a son and my mother wanted me to be straight and independent, so I was treated like a guy most of the time. When I discovered I was bisexual, I already had a hard enough time as it was attracting guys, and when it came to the girls, the ones I crushed on were all straight :lol: that's how it is sometimes, but I never once considered a sex change to be a solution to overcoming any kind of problem, especially not pain.

You get rejected no matter if you're a man or woman. I’ve been bullied needlessly by class mates, picked on for anything they could think to pick on me for, and when I was abandoned by the few friends I had, I fell into depression and I was suicidal for a while - which didn’t help when I came face to face with that cult, since I was already down.

You move on eventually, and the scars heal. But you can’t do that while drowning in a pit of your own self torment. Unfortunately in Meteor’s case, it’s going to take more than just us shouting at him to wake up. That’s how deep the insanity goes, and only when you’re about to lose something that’s more important to you than your desires and obsession, do you finally wake up and change… if they even have anything that’s more important in their eyes. Meteor doesn’t even have the desire to live. His fiancé walking away from him may be the only thing that would wake him up… and I doubt that would ever be a possibility until it’s already too late.

He has one path out of his pain and the rest are leading him to suicide… and he can only see the suicidal paths. Once he has that surgery, the path out of his pain is going to disappear, but that doesn’t matter to people who are this deep in insanity.

If I believe there is even the slightest chance of success, I will. If there's truly is no chance, then I can't bear to live, so I will.

I don’t think you realize how unhinged this sounds. It’s like deciding to jump off a bridge and saying “if there’s the slightest chance of success I’ll do it”. Please ground yourself everyone is very concerned about you.

I know that I have been using the term "She/Her" when describing me and my girlfriend but in truth we are "transgender female". I have been considering the idea if one could change themselves from male to female or female to male. I have never considered or agreed to the idea of cutting of one's genitals in some botched surgery to look like the other gender though. I will simply ask if that is also what the Gods have said as far as the notion of switching gender being wrong and not a thing that can be done and if that is the case then I apologize to every Zevist member here and to Satan and his Demons for indulging in such a notion as I have and we will be willing to change from it and accept the reality of who and what we are.

cobras gonna karate kick me if he sees this

You knew this, yet still wrote such nonsense anyway. What are you trying to do?

Do not insult and defame Goddess Inanna by making strange claims about her that have absolutely no truth to them.

I'll be honest with you, Inanna absolutely does not support transgenderism in any way whatsoever. She refuses the whole notion of it, as do any of the other Gods.

No single God will ever help anyone change gender in any capacity.

Any Zevist who is a little psychically open can ask her themselves, and if indeed you are psychically open enough to hear Inanna, you will hear her absolute rejection of this corruption of the human soul and being.

Do not ever put words in the mouth of the Gods again when you know nothing.

HAIL ZEUS!