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What people don't understand is trading fall under " Investment" which are all long term processes to incur revenue. If your looking for a get money fast or rich scheme. I can't help with that. Whether you start a business or want to sell your service. You want immediately make money. But if...

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Thread 'FOREX/INVESTMENTS/ ALL FINANCIAL QUESTIONS' https://ancient-forums.com/threads/forex-investments-all-financial-questions.304104/ This is my thread. I'll be adding more and more as time goes along. I have a quite substantial amount, as of current I'm in the middle of buying...

I've compiled beginner friendly websites where you can pick up what trading is and how to trade as well as free online courses. All the websites I've tried and tested and they are all safe to use do not require you to signup expect for Udemy which is a well known and safe online course platform...

There's a massive difference doing something painstakingly hard for the benefit of others and trying to make money from others. Thus I didn't understand why you brought it up. It's legit easier to Google live analysis then if astrology charts. There's a difference between availablity and...

Disclaimer: I AM ONLY MAKE THIS POST ONCE. Do not for the common sense in you, attempt to believe you need to pay to learn what is free. All these online Guru's, Mentors, Courses make more money from you subscribing then to actually trading. Trading comes with risks. But convincing hundreds...

DISCLAIMER IF YOU ARE NEW TO TRADING, OR WANT TO JUMP INTO TRADING STOCKS, CRYPTO, GOLD IS NOT THE BEST OPTIONS. ALSO ONLY TRADE WHAT YOU ARE COMFORTABLE OF LOSING. THERE'S NO INSTANT SUCCESS IN TRADING. EVEN FOLLOWING OTHER PEOPLE'S SIGNALS DOESNT ASSURE YOU SUCCESS. 80% OF TRADING IS...

If someone is too lazy to learn on their own, they have bigger issues. I will freely provide weekly analysis, PDFs, videos to watch for the whole community in that case. You and your 1year of experience have alot to learn, I have 7 years of trading. Teaching, providing signals and even...

Firstly allow children to be children. Do not expect them to understand or fully grasp what they are meant to be doing, also remember you as parents are dedicated. So you should be very careful in what you introduce your child too. More importantly as it has been said above, if your have an...

You shouldn't. Simply because this won't help change the person, won't make him want to become better. We are not here to save people from justice. If they willingly accept doing a crime, they understand what could happen if they were caught and charged. Do not put yourself in a difficult...

I've been trading since 2018. One year isn't enough to become successful consistent. Secondly rather provide the information for free if your so consistently successful and let others learn for themselves. You have alot of things going in your life that you need to address before you start...

Your completely fine. Your name isn't a deciding factor into a dedication. It's a dedicated of the soul. Your soul has lived many lives and each you've had many names. And many more names to come. It's all about what you do then what your called.❤️

Realistic only trade what you are comfortable with losing, what's important isn't that you make millions right out the gate but that you learn the necessary skills to be able to be more profitable then you lose and also to be more consistent with your profits

(This was sent incomplete) Unfortunately that percentage is growing, and the cause is social Media influencing. This ideology of what's " Cool " based on what you see online and that alone being enough to make you abandon your identity for something completely fabricated. Indulging in false...

There isn't a checklist on what does and does not make you Black but there is a spectrum. Whether your in the centre or are on the edge of this spectrum is a crucial indicator of your race. Identity outside of colour. Outside your skin tone what makes you Black? What values, ideals, morals...

What is the ideal race in this case ? If your mixed, you won't be able to correct that through one generation. Your kids would also have to marry correctly in order to re-strengthen yours racial lineage. Which isn't something you can control, but can try to influence through what you teach...

Strength would have to come first. In order to reclaim resources and preserve culture and identity. We would need the strength to correct our own people and strength not to relay on foreign aid.

Have there been any update on this ?

Times are trying, but the times to come are going to be more so. There hasn't been any new or an drastic increase in spiritual planned attacks or racially targeted attacks. But then have been efforts to enhance and manipulate global reactions. The enemy understands it can no longer win, and so...

Greetings Family I had hoped I would be able to complete alot of the articles and projects I have planned for this section but I haven't had the best time management but I can no longer delay the message and information I've been told to share by the Gods. So please do be expecting alot of...

Babies and pregnant women are much more sensitive and keep yourself spiritually clean as well as your home. Do not neglect any uneasy feelings. You also should spend a lot more time with Mother Lilith, share your fears and concerns seek her guidance and protection. Another thing that would...

From me and my GD I send you many blessings. A new God to be born, I can't imagine the transformation and guidance and support they will have having a parent like you... Absolutely amazing.

I've completely stopped engaging with him or anything around him... As the oldest brother and man of the house I wanted to talk to him first but now that has been spat back to my face. I'm detaching myself. It's not worth being friendly too xains to that degree. This is a choice I've fought...

I've acted multiple times even grounding him ... He just goes rats on me to his dad, who then calls our mom who then has issues and then it's a 3 v 1.... Word for word " Why is my son receiving unfair treatment" was what I heard on their call when my brother had been going in and out the house...

It's bordering on the insane in my opinion, " God talks through him", crying because someone unrooted flowers that are God's creation or when he steps on an ant. Into going into full possession... From praying to screaming God's words it really just crazy and his put together this group of kids...

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Thank you very much for all the responses... 😅 I'll heavily consider binding him. Definitely taking all these things into consideration, the primary reason why I had not moved out earlier was I had to take up the role of 'Man of the house' and take care of everybody. But it's really gotten...

To give context. I am the oldest in my family, and since around 12 or so I've had to grow up and be the man of the house. My 2 younger brothers the second and third oldest come from a different father. So for the longest time I have been sacrificing majority of my time and goals in order to...

Children of Zeus. Brothers and Sisters. With all that has been happening lately I've found myself reminded of everything that had come to me. As someone who has been here for years not as many years as some but good number none the less I have to say I am ABSOLUTELY proud of us and how far...

HPS Lydia truly amazing journey. Similarly the first time I read through the JoS PDF it was like nothing I've ever experienced. It was the first time I felt I was reading something beyond true. I've mentioned this about 3 years back that. That my most recurring dreams back then was me along...

To think is to exist. To continuously push yourself through life and claim your breath. It is not that its complicated, it's a matter of one willing to limit their understanding. To hinder their own minds due to choosing the easiest path. We are not here to kick up our feet but to put in the...

Additionally are there any projects for the African community people would like to see come into reality?

I had been curious about that also glad it's being taken into action, every representation of us should move forward.

I feel as Children of our Father we are very forgetful. I'm 100% sure there's more then a handful of people here who have a good relationship with their GD and Satan that could have asked them if they had any concerns and be immediately answered. 1. The gods have been called multiple names...

Additional as a reminder. With Satan protection you a protected from deadly harm but as I've been told by my Guardian Demon, stopping every tiny thing that causes you discomfort doesn't make sense, when will you learn to fight on your own if your always betting on your safety net ? It's not a...

This has always been issue. People worry about the messenger more then the message. Regardless of the information itself people get hung up on how it's presented. So choosing to from here on present the Father of Creation as Glorious Being that he is, should be no issue and yet... I...

We all know the story of Zeus. But there is also another lore that comes from the San people which is the oldest African race. Kaang ia to the San is the supreme god, the creator God. (Obviously there's alot of corruption and mis-translations due to language barriers) Kaang being the creator...

This has been an issue, a concern that crossed my mind. If your pushing for content to enlighten more and more people. Going out and saying " Satanism is the way" wouldn't work, there's just to much negativity associated with that term unforgettable. So I understand the general ease of Zeus and...

It's completely understandable and your not alone, I've written about this but I has the same vision for 2 months straight of children (representing children of satan) running and hiding from Demons which took care of them and provide everything they asked for... the reason why this fear and...

As they've mentioned, nothing wrong with not wanting to have children. But there is something wrong with fear, you should not allow fear to shape your life and decision. It's best you come to that choice by yourself and that way you'll have no regrets. You shouldn't be out in a position where...

So in your opinion. Your limited understanding. You think the God's made a mistake? You really think just causally Father Satan made that mistake ? Is it also a mistake that there's God's that com from different races that serve Father Satan ? Don't purposefully act stupid. Focus on your...

If she is your GD, it would be made clear to you. Easiest way is with a pendulum and ask a God that specialises in giving answers you'll be able to find out who your GD is. If she is your GD she would have visited you in a similar way everyone experience Father Satan when he first visits you...

This post is in response to a few thread I saw a while back. To quote High Priest HoodedCobra " A Man of Truth, a Man of Satan. He is part of the Divine order. Lower or Higher, he has exacted the greatest of his individuality and is always evolving upwards, same as the Order of Nature and the...

This is purely a you thing. As one will learn here neither Satan's or the gods hand hold us so no one else will. Satanism is about strength. I've faced challenges of self also and have worked on myself and gathered the strength to be above that. As a Satanist you need to be self dependable...

Very true but to actively pursue one's own agenda one must have the economic power and control to not fall into traps or to be pressured from others. The key is to head into politics unofficially (without registering to the limitations of government bodies) and achieve more results for the...

We should also not ... during the world war It was not the Germans filling thier quota with black soliders to have them fight in the front-line, it was the French, British and Americans. More so the Germans handed flyers saying that the african soldiers can come to Germany and escape the rule...

You argue alot. I admire focus and determination but this was nothing but needless. 1) If you find the importance of studying the history of such symbols and going into a depth of understanding, has your GD been able to help you achieve that ? And allure you to the understanding and knowledge...

There's honestly been too much confusion on this matter especially to people without Satan, in southern Africa, and a few other parts where each family has their own farm, you'd be surprised how little meat they eat and due to lack of availability but it being unnecessary to eat so much. And...

This is the first time I'll actually enjoy my birthday and happen to be same day as Yule Happy Yule Fam

The key point is to known you are part of this family even though you might not feel it yet or have a high expectations of self that you believe your not a SS until you reach it. Your here, that was the first step. You've dedicated, that was the second step. The rest of the way is for oneself...

100% , I honestly can't tell if your are agreeing with me or not but as I also it's not easy and being in too world surrounded by what it is makes things tough and unfair. But as satanist it is not our place to surrender to the falsehood of this world, even at the smallest level you are at...

Outside of your dedication to Satan, do you feel you are a Satanists? Do you feel you embody the belief, values and goals we strive for ? Are you part of our people? As future gods what do you hold yourselves too ? Alot of people are here without understanding what the purpose is, not to say...

Understand this brother at a time like this YOU SHOULD FOCUS ON SS. Most of us understand, and hold off on drastic actions. Lots of I've wanted to do but decided without a care plan ahead that wouldn't make sense. But yet again maybe living on the edge of survival is what you need, Is seen...

Brother Ss I am someone from a third world country myself I will give you advice. SS are meant to gave the ability be self dependent. If you instantly got wealthy right now , what would that do for you ? Hand holding isn't a part of satanism. And money spells are there to ensure you succeed...

[Disclaimer im not a new member this is a rather new profile, I have been around since HPS Maxine was very active.] What is satanism? Who are the gods? Why did they create us, how, when? Other random questions... that have been floating around for years. SO LETS BREAK ALL OF THIS DOWN. This...

Wonderful No issue in your mannar of speaking or speech but as you can understand this becomes a better conversation when it's someone's who's actually from Africa as there's a better understanding with the continent. To respond to your point's 1. POOR GOVERNING - 100% the reality but more so...

Are you from Africa ? Or have you ever lived or visited ? Just want to understand where your point of view is coming from before I respond.

Great proposition One central issue would be feeding the AI correct information and references. Outside of the JOS library there's alot still of knowledge about individual races, and certain topics that have little information around from. So we'd have to have a dedicated process to sorting and...

In general white people have been made the deliberate enemies of blacks to what end? Simply control. If we are too occupied fighting each other, they are taking control with no one to resist them. Now I can understand the recent image of racists white people being an issue but white people are...

Greetings my fellow brothers and sisters Above is the current plague and disease facing Africa, as our overall goal would is to be able create a striving environment for black people... this is one of the biggest issues. Religious falsehood that runs throughout Africa that has nothing to do...

Especially as of late, even alot of fake satanic worshipping where they are now ... making Satan more easily acceptable through showing his kindness but yet keeping the parts of sacrifices being required and selling your soul to him.

Thank you HPS Lydia for this. It's been much needed. I'd like to also add on that having a dedicated space like a Astral Temple does really help make communication with your GD as even during workings they do tend to enter your temple and watch you/correct you/advise you [very dependent on...

This is not a call for accountability but the actions towards accepting responsibility Greetings to all my SS Brothers & Sister's. I firstly want to openly apologise as a Satanist for not playing my part not only in gerenal but also within my own community. It has rather been an unfortunate...

Greetings Brothers and Sisters. Now I'd like to say this is a good idea. And I've considered everyone's concerns and comments. Now I've been working on a couple of projects for sometime and I've yet to finish them. One being increasing a positive public image. Now there are certain measures...

Now i must say that I'm not 100% sure if this is an enemy' group or not but it seems to be missing a large amount of context and they seem to be gearing up to fight a battle half blind. Let me explain. I was privately contacting people(via whatsapp) on behalf of my friend to refer them to his...

Your the problem. More specially your lack of understanding. I didn't get along with my GD as first but i realised we are a perfect match cause even though he does things i don't particular like i wouldn't learn things if he did them any other way. So this is truly a " You " issue and I'd...

Greetings There a demons who are both male and female and as such i believe you'd find a better answer going through this with them. As far as how you feel about yourself that will always change. In the end our aim is going beyond the chains that hold us now, but in the end you'll be choosing...

If i also may add. I believe you'll help alot of people and even some of those people you might lead here. Since you understanding the truth you'll be able to help people in the truest form, all tools no matter what their purpose was used by the right people will always be a force for better...

Amazing. Congratulations you efforts will be further rewarded.

I believe it happens quite a but. My GD slowed down on how many times thier visited me i thought i had done something wrong to find out my GD just changed the approach on how they help as well as doing thier other duties. If you travel with your GD and go to Father Satan's castle you'll find...

As far as my personal experience with my GD and what's his explained to me. 1) Advancement is the key too more understanding. You can't put someone on the frontlines who still struggles with basic training the same way they won't be cleared for higher level information. Simple they won't be...

At the end of the day this is war. In are in the center of the most key wars. Sisters and brothers, depend on us and Father Satan and all will be well. When your here even problems without a clear solution get solved. Be dependable and learn to depend on others. With that in mind even in...

Join the SS Army. Unless you have specific reasons to why you'd be interested in joining the US army. I similar had interest in joining the Army as my mom and grandfather had, also my dad was police officer. Yet i feel like I'm making a bigger difference in life and in the world as part of...

Completely agree. A nice reminder is every few month or so i check how many members we have. I remember last i checked we were at 54k now at 74k. This should be an indicator that here a huge differences is being made and you can be that very difference you make in your own life.

It's not it's pretty amazing. Did you make it yourself?

Alll which would take a large amount of considerable efforts. Regain land for the purpose of development and correction. As there's alot of cases where land that was allocated to black during slavery was undesirable choices for development. So we'd first need to correct the large amounts of...

Short post What would you like to see being achieved by the black community? All opinion and thoughts welcomed. This post isn't necessarily a " What should we do " post more so a general post to gauge thoughts around us. From ourselves and other races.

I know some of us if not all have found ourselves having to manage what seemed to be conflicting responsibilities and interests. Whether that being friends, family, work, spiritual or self interests. We all try to find the best way to swim in all these different currents at the same time, ans...

Life is definitely harder with a Non-SS partner. The key problem is understanding. You as an SS has the capability to understand them ans their religion as to them it would be a very hard pill to swallow. They begin to worry about how others will treat you guys if they find out, ect ... secondly...

I'm currently working on an AI to change the functionality of businesses and how they operate. What we want is to change the world for good but I'm also cautious about it cause the one factor alot people ignore is an AI is empty vessel. Our daily routine and interests is what it feeds on, the...

There's pacts to be done. Your Guardian Demon will aid you with contacting other demons. Imagine simply summoning demons without notice or asking as if they are sitting around waiting for a person attention. They are very busy beings. My personal GD had told me how busy they get and even...

It's good to ask question as it deepens your desire for more knowledge. Besides rather have a good idea then a wrong one

Just talk to him/her build a relestioships with them. There's no need to be so formal. I talk to my GD all the time, 🤦🏼‍♂️his annoying because he likes giving me half-baked answers and make me figure things by myself other time. But his there when i need, he'll listen to my idea's and plans and...

There are Gods who were human and completed the Magnum Opus. Balam and Valefor being one of many. What i assume your asking and for anyone else who's speculative is " what powers can i expect to have " or " how long until i can see my powers " if your thinking like this then your mentality is...

At a point all SS start to take the mentality of the God's, we begin to think and rationalize like them. On one hand we understand what needs to be done and we feel very little about what needs to happen for the great good. On the other you want to help every single person which is hard to do...

Hey, i went from zero knowledge on IT and programming but on my first year of studying i was getting high marks compared to those that took computer studies in highschool. I have no real love or passion for software development or programming but what I've noticed is your demon will assist you...

Blitz is like to hear your thoughts on this. We can understand that it's not impossible. Even from earlier records time have mentioned children being born hybrids. I believe I've also read of demons who had a human parent(if I'm not mistaken). But as you said not outside the realm of...

There's really no better place. I remember I'd follow " Correct Regions " cause i wanted answers but this is not only we've I've gained answered. I've gained a home, knowledge and protection. How many can say thier have truth faith in the God they believe? Father Satan is the only person...

Greetings to all my brethren and sister's. I was reading a post that lead me to want to research more about the whole situations between the Germans(specially nazi) and black people. This all transpired around the 1900's and I'm sure if you search anything regarding black people and...

I full heartly believe that if you remove emotions out of the questions. We all have common sense and can agree and disgree on points his shared based simply on preference. What you'd prefer in a partner, dictates what you believe and hold in high regard. What i enjoy most about tate is his...

She truly did; I'm personally more drawn in old by cultural practices then new modern one's.

Looking back I was al ways surround by spirits and to me it felt normal. It was only when my mother starting doing her own research on things, i wasn't really searching when i bumped into the JoS while doing a dedication ritual to Father Satan. Looking at it now it's very odd and weird, how...

If I'm correct I've given you an answer to your question before but anyways... I'd advise you to increase the power of your third eye if you haven't, then ask any of the gods or your GD to help you find answers. I am black(South African), and i can tell you from what i see even though there's...

I can understand. It's all exciting and it's beautiful to see the progress your making.

Thank you. Very understandable everything takes time to be done right and there's alot to do.

The one thing i noted when doing this ritual is once i started, my third eye will start to feel pressure around about the time i do the ritual almost like my body is preparing for the ritual. Is this normal? What important dates should we look forward too, for any upcoming rituals. Is there...

Amazing ritual I felt so much clam and powerful energy surround me, so up lifting. During the ritual even my wings couldn't help but sprout out. At first i was feeling so much intensity when i was reading through it, but once i started it felt good. WE ARE A TRULY BLESSED FAMILY

I would say being from africa myself, the biggest issue i have noticed is how deep the Xain nonseses is actually rooted. But it's good to see places in Africa where they are refusing Christianity. When it comes to rebuilding and reshaping the idea is to take in a more cultural acceptance...

Lucifer is the God of all races. We are his children. Build a relationship with him and you can ask him all the questions you want and get answers also. Experience is a better teacher then words.

Being african myself and a very cultural person. Hoping to shed light on my experience in regards to this. I remember participating on my first offering to unify two families and 😂😂no one really wanted to be the one to kill the animal. I noticed there's also that issue, we know it has to...

Amazing and informative post as always HP To add onto this, it also recently came to my attention that all these world leaders who want to go "Green" and use renewable energy infrastructure, have painted a very nice picture for people to look at but hid the fact to reach all this out landish...

I get the point your trying to convey but at the same time your speaking from a perspective that is offish. Not wrong but offish. Firstly black people are violent people but not for any that first comes to mind. We are a race of warriors. We are physically built to be more athletic then...

💯I can totally agree with this.💯 This actual makes a experience of mine much clear, i had intended to go to my astral temple but ended on a completely different plane. I was told here i could create freely and even though i tried everything failed. I made the mistake of thinking just because i...

Amazingly said. It is also important for those who are new or have not read the " New man of Satan" to note. What kind of person they can become. This is an good read for and will help you understand alot of what is expected as a contributing memeber and what you can expect from your fellow...

This post is to address a few topics I've seen alot of questioned around. Mostly from new memeber and few from more older members. I hope this clears up a few things, no doubt you'll have questions. Let's start. As you've noticed most of the more advanced members rarely answer your questions...

Im not sure how you came up with those numbers but to put it how my GD explained it to me is... the record exist and don't exist at the same time. Anything of value was either destroyed or taken... so much knowledge was lost as you know. But what your looking for is evidence of ascendance...

Well i do understand your point. That would be the ideal way to go but i also picture what would be needed if it had to be created from nothing. Which would make it easier to the find the right town to start. It's like designing the blueprint so when you find the right place you already know...

I've seen with social media lately and what people have been saying. Xains particular. They've been preaching and saying that " God is coming, repent " and they've been doing it alot often and at greater volumes. And this has been coming from celebrities also, who've regretted " signing for fame...

A few months ago i was visited by our Father and Lord Satan and as we spoke there were alot of thoughts invading my mind, i hadn't been doing void meditations. I remember him touching my forehead and saying " My mind falters too much" and i had crear mind from then. Knowning what my mind is...

While we are doing our workings and advancements, focused on spiritual progress. As most of you have noticed with testimonials and peoples questions, different levels of advancements are normally accompanied by different levels and degrees of urgency by demons. Which is a good system, is allows...

Among all the unnecessary arguments and disagreements. When we hold ourselves against others there's a few things I'm really proud of as an SS. Removing all the confused individuals and infiltrators. None of us would actually hurt each other. Not only as respect to ourselves but to what we are...

At this point i feel it's just to detach people from reality. We've seen how easily they control people with media. The timing of " Meta " is also very clearly planned out. From covid requiring less human interactions to meta allowing for more human interactions from the comfort of your home...

This was the biggest worst idea ever when it came out. As a gamer and game designer there's been metaworlds and metauniverises from 2010 but with all things there's reasons why they were growing slowing. 😂😂but I'm glad it blew up in their faces.

Yeah that would be amazing for group meditations. I'd be alot easier to do longer meditation and rituals. It's own library yes i see. Good point

Apologizes in advance bit off topic. I've been working alot with energy lately and I've heard more people say the see a ball of a black burning energy around. They begin to feel hot. One has even said to get a feeling of danger from me. I'm more curious about this, since neither my GD nor...

It would be more like ... some random town in what seems like the middle of nowhere. Ideally for now it's purpose would be provided a safe haven for SS to meet others and fully be themselves.

Is it would have to be technology advanced & have a strict visitation regulations ?

Greetings to all the magnificent children of our Lord Satan. If there were to be a place " e.g. A small town " that could be built. What would be the ideal features it would need to have to be a productive and peaceful environment for SS members ? Shoot off some ideas if you have some.

It's not a permit thing, as your Knowledge grows you'll be able to understand and handle correcting such things. Just keep pushing forward.

I think it's more of limitations. In the lost Book of Enki you can read and see that when the Gods were on earth they grew older faster, felt weaker and other effects and alot more violence occurred things that wouldnt normally effect them in their own dimensions... it would work the same way if...

As a black person, Jews are really trying to get rid of you guys. I saw this other video where they were saying the problem or number of people not taking the vaccine were whites and if yout got rid of whites.. Covid would end ... i am shocked they would say that so publicly the enemy is really...

I've learnt from the God's... it has nothing to do with you. If your truly dedicated you'll always be taken care of and safe so don't worry or involve yourself in things that would upset Father Satan

Best chance of meeting another SS member is if your guardian demon tells let's you know or you randomly meet us ... beyond that for satefy reasons we don't share personal information

Welcome to the club.... happens to me alot also. I assume ( maybe wrong ) that the enegry inside and outside aren't flowing through me properly, blocked chakras possibly. It doesn't happen as much as it did. Hope this helps

Thanks will try that

Hello. I've been having a few issues / problems that I'm hoping someone can help with. Firstly I'd like to share a little more about my experience hopefully it helps explain things better. I was born with a few psychic abilities and have noticed them disappearing slowly, i use to be able to...

I guess i did ask it weirdly then. Thr reason i asked was i felt a shift in my energy , like there was a new depth to it. There was more i could handle. But to my knowledge i hadn't done anything drastic to cause that change. But it started when i felt the forces of hell get closer. Things i...

Hey. I have schizoaffective which is basically bipolar and schizophrenia combined with other things on steroids. But it doesn't bother me anymore honestly. I know the feeling crying for no reason even when happy. I would get server chest and arm pains when send, being sad in pain for weeks to...

Hi my name is don. When i first started. I use to experience alot more spiritual effects. I was alot more sensitive. It start when i went to a magic shop which i didn't think too much of at the time, bought a pendant and as i was paying for it. The shop owner went into a trance beginning...