Spiritual Satanist's Views On Recent Changes

[HailAimForever666]

My thoughts of the more recent changes as one who got accustomed to our religion when it was stilled called "Spiritual Satanism". I really just want to express how I have been a bit disconnected from these changes, and hopefully getting some support in getting accustomed to these new ideas.

On How We Are Less Restricted In Who Joins

With the new decision to give everyone equal footing in Zevism, I can be happy, we all deserve the chance to learn. Though I must voice my concern, for years on years, those who followed Judaism, and even had ancestors who practiced it, were seen as either enemies or reason to stay on guard and clean the aura.

This is the truth in some, and many cases, think of the ones who justify some of the atrocious crimes committed by the IDF to innocents in Gaza as purely "self-defence", think of those who wholeheartedly practiced the sacrifice of goats, the stoning of homosexuals who sleep together, and the killing of witches all because their holy book demanded it, until other people became more educated and developed enough free will to say no.

Of course the other Abrahamic religions were the same in many many cases, the Crusades are an example of that, among many other cases. So the idea that Jews specifically are corrupted by negative psychic influences always was a bit confusing to me and I'll admit that.

Of course Lady Pythia (Pythia) and people related to her were ..[Content removed by moderator for privacy/safety reasons.]

I love both her and her husband (who loved her) for what they have inspired here, and I respect that they had and still might have their reasons for holding their beliefs. Still I know that with this new change we must stay aware and awake. Of course the world is very different but our need for spiritual integrity and safety is the same.

Whether Jews and Christians can be shown the Zevist truths matters, but if over time they consciously or unconsciously, integrate their old ways into the actual true teachings of the temple that won't be good. Simple as that. So let's avoid that.

On How Zeus (and Satya by Extension) Is Understood Drastically Differently
Recently

I watched an AMA by High Priest Zevios Metathronos (sorry if I failed to spell the name correctly, I'm still getting used to using it, I'm so used to saying High Priest Hooded Cobra) where he explained how Satya/Satan is an extension of Zeus, and also that Zeus created all of physical existence.

This was hard to wrap my head around, I was so used to the gods all being E.T.s who spiritually evolved to the point of ascension. It makes sense that the theory has holded up, humans can and have become gods, so an older species from another planet could easily do the same.

Beyond that though the idea of this creator God does sound similar to Judaism, and by extension Christianity and Islam. Satan also being under Zeus also reminds me of how in Judaism Satan is seen as an angel who serves the "God" by testing the willpower of humans to "resist evil", that last comparison is a stretch in thought but it does come to mind.

Many of the older followers of the gods called "Spiritual Satanists" are just suspicious of this drastic change and that's healthy to an extent. Listening blindly is not what we, or the Zevists ever did, and those that listen and understand are not blind, they just understand what is being said easier. It makes more sense to them.

Yes Hinduism has Brahma, who all of the gods extend from, but that's only one pre-abrahamic religion. I know no other pre-Abrahamic religion which says that one of the highest gods is purely an extended part of another God. Well beyond Danu of Celtic Mythology, who has three aspects, still that's only one other religion, and a religion that has been altered over the years and summarised by Christian scribes in its most recent form, so possible unreliable.

Hinduism has also been very open to alterations changes from it being so public, even our ministry here has said that. So beyond that I'm still uncertain of the new changes, of course I might be completely wrong, I'm not an all-knowing god, definitely not yet anyways haha.

I just want to be clear that I'm wanting and willing to learn, and hear everyone's viewpoints respectfully, just wanted to voice my concerns and get some insights.

I have also heard of politics not affecting membership and integration with the community here which is fair to an extent, I'll read more on it later just to make sure what its saying before I say I agree or disagree with that.

Praise be the gods!!

 

[Fuchs]

It´s easy do the new god rituals and you will feel the power knowledge providet, that this was the right way.

 

[Nikólaos666]

Zevism is purer. The old essence of this religion comes from the Yehuboric religion. We cannot stay in this lower level of life. You need to read and study the Advance Zevism section, you will understand fully that this change was necessary to obtain higher knowledge and it will be easier to aknowledge.

We are restoring the ancient religion with a greater version of them, in one place. We cannot let the Yehubor define our Gods.

 

[hailourtruegod]

From a logically standpoint, calling it blind faith or insinuating it is shows either complete ignorance or just outright trying to be wrong. Anyone taking time to study the updated information has only came back with a higher understanding of not just our ToZ cause but life in general. Because they have always studied and worked thru their spiritual work to have a higher consciousness with only legit questions towards the material for a clearer view.

Both High Priest And High Priestess continue to say to meditate on the Gods and ask Them any questions or better yet to help you find the answers you need. So, blind faith is objectively the wrong term to use here

Why do we need to keep repeating the exact information that is on the sites to the same people who claim to be part of this movement for years??

Or do we need to explain what it means and people dont want to admit their mind fails to comprehend. Which is a matter of not having a proper spiritual structure that is practiced correcly for years and studying.

No older members that have stayed loyal to their practices and thus can show it with their words has came around yet to actually argue the points and statements in the updates.

The information from HP Zevios Metathronos has been there before, during and after the physical changes. Read and actually provide the direct counter-points instead of making empty claims that are covered even in the front page or in the post about the new updates.

New members to the forums can be spoon fed as that is necessary sometimes but your words are claiming you've been around this place for a while now. So for people to still try to contradict the basics of the updates instead of the actual substance of the points proves there is lack of intellectual capability or at worst, causing mayhem because there's too much izfetic energies within their soul.

Or even Xi has to interact with Western politicians who put worldwide news cameras in his face instead of hiding in his palace pretending to be divine. He knew the old way isnt going to work and is trying to adapt.

Point is, as repeated over and over, politics from 100 years ago, no matter how logical at their time, DO NOT serve us whatsoever in 2026 and beyond. And we keep explaining this to you all but we get no direct counter point. Just empty claims that can easily be covered by studying the material but this proves that you all never even went in to study the material when it was the old name. Thus why you all never have anything to say about that stuff.

 

[Black Magic]

In the old JOS, I was confused that the Gods were called literal aliens, but in TOZ this fact became clear in such a way that each God represent a certain celestial body in cosmos, in this regard they are, of course alliens. Here, we are experiencing a pagan renaissance for sure

 

[HailAimForever666]

It´s easy do the new god rituals and you will feel the power knowledge providet, that this was the right way.

That's fair enough thank you for this advice, I really appreciate it.

 

[HailAimForever666]

Zevism is purer. The old essence of this religion comes from the Yehuboric religion. We cannot stay in this lower level of life. You need to read and study the Advance Zevism section, you will understand fully that this change was necessary to obtain higher knowledge and it will be easier to aknowledge.

We are restoring the ancient religion with a greater version of them, in one place. We cannot let the Yehubor define our Gods.

Yes you have a point, I'll study the advanced Zevism section and do the power rituals, and study the new material, and the material which was revised. I'll try this, it's the best way to understand things, thank you for this comment.

 

[HailAimForever666]

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I am grateful for the information and guidance in this comment, but I just want to specify I didn't say I saw people picking up the new knowledge easier as blind fate. In fairness there was a load of text to read through and from your comment I see you have taken so much time to respond to my points and I am thankful for that.

"Listening blindly is not what we, or the Zevists ever did, and those that listen and understand are not blind, they just understand what is being said easier. It makes more sense to them."

What I meant here is that people who listen to the new information and understand are not blind, but the opposite, which goes without saying, though I felt the need to write it this way because I didn't want to come off as a person stuck in the old beliefs who cannot see the value in people understanding the truth better than me. Basically, just because I can't get it doesn't mean I see others who do as blind.

I should have specified but I did struggle to follow the path when I got accustomed to things, I tried meditating but my fear and my difficulty to protect myself from negative energies and curses got to me over time. I'll admit I was not always great with asking for help from the gods and others, I was a headstrong teenager who thought I could figure most of it out on my own. It was stupid, but I'm back to learn. I did try countless times to contact the gods and set myself right but by then it was too late, I had fallen backwards.

I have been doing much better in my practice in comparison to where I was before, and I intend to continue improving.

"Why do we need to keep repeating the exact information that is on the sites to the same people who claim to be part of this movement for years??"

When I was in the movement there was no mention of Zeus creating the physical world, nor him and Satya being one being.

I will not demand you explain this topic in full now, you have other more important things to do, and that's respectable. And i suppose how Zeus and Satya created the entire physical world, is a big topic to explain over a post especially to a stranger. Though I would see an issue of one hundred other people came here and didn't explain or enlighten me on any aspect of the topic, that would be different, as if 100 people didn't have the time to explain any bit of the concept then that'd be wrong, in my opinion. People can say I'm foolish for not understanding it, but pretending I understand it would be a lie. If not one of the 100 people could explain the topic to me to any extent then I don't have a real reason to believe they even understand it.

People of Jewish descent were not given the same chances as they are now, many slurs against them were used by some people here at times when they disagreed with each other, I never once saw that as justified, when people are fragrantly disrespectful in the forums to each other that's bad end of. Still, I wasn't around since like 2015-2017, I had a mental break after that.

Now obviously I'm not excused from putting in the effort now, and right after i respond to the messages here there will be a big effort put in by me to make a habit of daily practice and study, no doubt there.

I understand how [the past] was good at the time, and how it isn't gonna transfer to 2026 as it did then.

"I have also heard of politics not affecting membership and integration with the community here which is fair to an extent, I'll read more on it later just to make sure what its saying before I say I agree or disagree with that."

I still haven't gotten the chance to read about this topic, I only saw the title late at night yesterday. I'll read it right after this, so I won't say any more on that but thank you for explaining how [the past] was suitable for the time, I get a much better idea of it now, I knew it before but I wasn't too certain. So that is great, thanks for explaining that.

I have read the whole of your post at this point, I just want to say I think we got off on the wrong foot. I'm sorry if I offended you, it was not my intention. In certain areas of your post you did come off as if you thought I or at least people like me were a good bit stupid, and that I and others are just making empty claims against the views of the temple. I just want to make it clear I'm not trying to do that, these changes are a lot for me to get my head around and I just wanted to express that. I never meant to come off as if I saw people who have adapted to the newly discovered facts as blind, and it got read the wrong way, and in fairness I didn't word it too great.

I hope I have worded this a bit better here. I didn't mean any offense.

 

[HailAimForever666]

In the old JOS, I was confused that the Gods were called literal aliens, but in TOZ this fact became clear in such a way that each God represent a certain celestial body in cosmos, in this regard they are, of course alliens. Here, we are experiencing a pagan renaissance for sure

That's an interesting point actually, thank you for this, and I'm glad TOZ has made many things clearer for each of us.

 

[hailourtruegod]

You're right in that I came at this as a "hammer", if you will, looking for nails. I seem to keep acting like this but fortunately I am aware of it and actively trying to rectify it. So first and foremost, my apologies if I was trying to bite your head off. I am the only one that makes these choices at the end and because of that I am working on not letting things I cant let go off bleed into interactions with others while acvtively purifying from this bad trait.

That being said, what others have said and what I wrote in the initial reply, studying the material and pointing out where one is confused is the right way to go. I myself still have some questions on the updates but it's mostly of "who's who" category. I'll ask them either here or in the VT once I am able to formulate my inquiry in a coherent manner.

Best of luck to you in your studies and getting back into your spiritual structure.

My apologies as well on us starting on the wrong foot. All is more clear now.

I am grateful for the information and guidance in this comment, but I just want to specify I didn't say I saw people picking up the new knowledge easier as blind fate. In fairness there was a load of text to read through and from your comment I see you have taken so much time to respond to my points and I am thankful for that.

"Listening blindly is not what we, or the Zevists ever did, and those that listen and understand are not blind, they just understand what is being said easier. It makes more sense to them."

What I meant here is that people who listen to the new information and understand are not blind, but the opposite, which goes without saying, though I felt the need to write it this way because I didn't want to come off as a person stuck in the old beliefs who cannot see the value in people understanding the truth better than me. Basically, just because I can't get it doesn't mean I see others who do as blind.

I should have specified but I did struggle to follow the path when I got accustomed to things, I tried meditating but my fear and my difficulty to protect myself from negative energies and curses got to me over time. I'll admit I was not always great with asking for help from the gods and others, I was a headstrong teenager who thought I could figure most of it out on my own. It was stupid, but I'm back to learn. I did try countless times to contact the gods and set myself right but by then it was too late, I had fallen backwards.

I have been doing much better in my practice in comparison to where I was before, and I intend to continue improving.

"Why do we need to keep repeating the exact information that is on the sites to the same people who claim to be part of this movement for years??"

When I was in the movement there was no mention of Zeus creating the physical world, nor him and Satya being one being.

I will not demand you explain this topic in full now, you have other more important things to do, and that's respectable. And i suppose how Zeus and Satya created the entire physical world, is a big topic to explain over a post especially to a stranger. Though I would see an issue of one hundred other people came here and didn't explain or enlighten me on any aspect of the topic, that would be different, as if 100 people didn't have the time to explain any bit of the concept then that'd be wrong, in my opinion. People can say I'm foolish for not understanding it, but pretending I understand it would be a lie. If not one of the 100 people could explain the topic to me to any extent then I don't have a real reason to believe they even understand it.

People of Jewish descent were not given the same chances as they are now, many slurs against them were used by some people here at times when they disagreed with each other, I never once saw that as justified, when people are fragrantly disrespectful in the forums to each other that's bad end of. Still, I wasn't around since like 2015-2017, I had a mental break after that.

Now obviously I'm not excused from putting in the effort now, and right after i respond to the messages here there will be a big effort put in by me to make a habit of daily practice and study, no doubt there.

I understand how National Socialism was good at the time, and how it isn't gonna transfer to 2026 as it did then.

"I have also heard of politics not affecting membership and integration with the community here which is fair to an extent, I'll read more on it later just to make sure what its saying before I say I agree or disagree with that."

I still haven't gotten the chance to read about this topic, I only saw the title late at night yesterday. I'll read it right after this, so I won't say any more on that but thank you for explaining how NS was suitable for the time, I get a much better idea of it now, I knew it before but I wasn't too certain. So that is great, thanks for explaining that.

I have read the whole of your post at this point, I just want to say I think we got off on the wrong foot. I'm sorry if I offended you, it was not my intention. In certain areas of your post you did come off as if you thought I or at least people like me were a good bit stupid, and that I and others are just making empty claims against the views of the temple. I just want to make it clear I'm not trying to do that, these changes are a lot for me to get my head around and I just wanted to express that. I never meant to come off as if I saw people who have adapted to the newly discovered facts as blind, and it got read the wrong way, and in fairness I didn't word it too great.

I hope I have worded this a bit better here. I didn't mean any offense.

 

[HailAimForever666]

You're right in that I came at this as a "hammer", if you will, looking for nails. I seem to keep acting like this but fortunately I am aware of it and actively trying to rectify it. So first and foremost, my apologies if I was trying to bite your head off. I am the only one that makes these choices at the end and because of that I am working on not letting things I cant let go off bleed into interactions with others while acvtively purifying from this bad trait.

That being said, what others have said and what I wrote in the initial reply, studying the material and pointing out where one is confused is the right way to go. I myself still have some questions on the updates but it's mostly of "who's who" category. I'll ask them either here or in the VT once I am able to formulate my inquiry in a coherent manner.

Best of luck to you in your studies and getting back into your spiritual structure.

My apologies as well on us starting on the wrong foot. All is more clear now.

I'm so happy to hear, your a very mature and good person and I knew you didn't mean anything bad by it. I just wanted to clear things up. I'm so grateful for this response, and I have been had similar experiences myself with trying to beat bad habits so I understand the struggle, your doing so well though and I'm very proud of the progress you are making. I'll do my best in my future studies to make you, our fellow brothers and sisters, the clergy, and of course the gods especially extra proud from here on out I wish you luck in everything you do too my brother. You still have given me a lot of help and a better understanding even when we were on the wrong foot and I will remember the good you've done me. Gods bless you!

 

[Black Magic]

Also, I must to admit, the JOS was focused on things that wasn't related to spirituality as well, I spend so much time for that in the past for nothing, for 10 years I could become something more powerful, I mean, yeah, I have my occult powers now, but, it's might be much better thou
With TOZ I can recognize how much my practice was improved, no more conspiracy, no more politics, no more talks about nothing, true spirituality, only that matters now.
I start to fully being active and finally join to forum, I start truly feel the Gods and even to interact with them. So yeah, that's totally worth it, so much time was spend for nothing but no more, lesson was learned, lesson that took so much time...

 

[Apprentice]

Many of the older followers of the gods called "Spiritual Satanists" are just suspicious of this drastic change and that's healthy to an extent.

If one reads the ample materials and meditates, one will see, that Father Satan is an aberration of Zeus Pater through a lens created by spiritually hollow beings. The next logical step is to worship the pure original.

 

[HailAimForever666]

If one reads the ample materials and meditates, one will see, that Father Satan is an aberration of Zeus Pater through a lens created by spiritually hollow beings. The next logical step is to worship the pure original.

You might be right, I mean when I see myself realising Zeus to be the true original being, I will definitely worship him as he is revealed to me in his truest form. When that day comes though I might still see Father Satan as a distorted but watered down Zeus. Like a beautifully crafted divine mosaic (Zeus) under murky and wavy waters (Father Satan) of an old but beautiful fountain (Reality). Maybe Father Satan wasn't an entirely accurate representation of the entire truth of Zeus, but there was definitely good and kindness behind the basic concept of him as presented by Lady Pythia. Of course if that's the view I had of the Zeus under the coverings of some Yehubor then a completely clear view of Zeus will be extraordinarily divine !!

 

[serpentwalker666]

When we transitioned over to this it was the most intense inner change and experience I ever had, I felt way more free then all our previous years combined and far more elevated. The pure form of Zevism is unreal by comparison to where we were, it was like we resurrected the divine from the fractured form we found this divine essence in.

It was confusing at first sure, but with guidance from Father Zeus-Amun, my Guardian Daemon, and all of the updated information alongside my own reading to see and learn for myself and make these connections, we basically arrived at the pure conclusion from where we started with a candle in the dark.
If we were to stay fully where we were I do not think we would have grown that far to what we can do now, as we are now able to be a far more significant organization and re-establish the spiritual roots of the original religion on earth.

Without this transitional step, we would be trying to restore a fraction, in a shattered form of what remained of our Ancestral Head God, with the rest of the Eternal Gods.
I would have not been happy with this being the final conclusion as this would be a disservice to our ancestors and others before us. We were and have always been about the truth, that is the solid foundation that we have built, and the Eternal Truth with alignment to divine law is what took us this far in the first place.

I understand some may still be stuck in past, but it is not acceptable at this point. We MUST go for the full restoration.
There is no other way into the future otherwise.

Our Father and the Gods deserve to be worshiped in their full glory and not within shattered aspects as we reach towards the divine.

We must become the divine fire, why else are we all assembled here?

 

[Rayquaza]

I've come to understand that it's simply a matter of calling everything by its name.

Because if our definitions of what's good and what's evil are vague and imprecise, how can we expect disaster not to strike when our spiritual energy is so pumped up that even the smallest thought has enormous consequences?

If achieving physical immortality is considered not only possible but also a given and within everyone's reach, how can we expect people to take time seriously?

If every voice the people around you hear in their thoughts is considered by them to be a telepathic message, how can you believe you're not in a madhouse?

Would you call a friend or a loved one an offensive name?

Recent changes are aimed at preserving the good this place has produced over time and weeding out everything that was illusory and potentially dangerous. So I'm not attached to the past, because what was good in the past has been preserved, and I'm not interested in illusions.

 

[Asra]

Satan also being under Zeus also reminds me of how in Judaism Satan is seen as an angel who serves the "God" by testing the willpower of humans to "resist evil", that last comparison is a stretch in thought but it does come to mind.

Satan is a name that was given to Zeus. They're not different beings, serving each other, etc. This comparison honestly makes no sense, I think you should read on the recent changes, maybe deprogram some more too.

 

[Fuchs]

That's fair enough thank you for this advice, I really appreciate it.

Also do you care about labels, names, superficial stuff or that you and everyone do win and andvance as best as possibel, look and buy stuff from the HoO you will undestand how crazy good the material is and why it was importand to operate something like that because people need motivation to donate, want something back, which they get greatly repaid.