About the racial subforums

[Shadowcat]

So TOZ, has disassociated from NS, as well as the blacksun666 website by default. Naturally this will result in anything related being removed. But in terms of the racial subforums why completely delete the one for whites instead of just renaming it, while asians and blacks still have their own subforums? If race no longer matters should there even be racial subforums anymore? Or maybe we can bring back the white racial subforum with a different name? Its's still quite valid is it not, that every race has experienced the Gods uniquely with their own lore and histories? We can still have this intact knowing all races can come to the Gods can we not? Please advise!

 

[Aquarius]

Let me ask you, have you been posting on that forum regularly? I don't recall you having any activity on it. Regarding the Gods, the whole Temple of Zeus is dedicated to our Gods, the ones we had in Europe thousands of years ago, so there really isn't a need for that particular subforum to discuss them, since they are discussed on the main forum.

 

[Shadowcat]

Let me ask you, have you been posting on that forum regularly? I don't recall you having any activity on it. Regarding the Gods, the whole Temple of Zeus is dedicated to our Gods, the ones we had in Europe thousands of years ago, so there really isn't a need for that particular subforum to discuss them, since they are discussed on the main forum.

I have posted less frequently there over the years, maybe read some information there, but that's not the point. I am just saying, and your reply is also consistent with, if we don't need it there we don't need the others also. Is there something wrong with me saying this?

 

[Detacher]

I believe it is more a point of strategy

 

[Aquarius]

I have posted less frequently there over the years, maybe read some information there, but that's not the point. I am just saying, and your reply is also consistent with, if we don't need it there we don't need the others also. Is there something wrong with me saying this?

I believe this is because in general the Temple of Zeus has a very high majority of white members, and the NatSoc part of it is in conflict with the brand the ToZ has been creating.

 

[Shadowcat]

I believe this is because in general the Temple of Zeus has a very high majority of white members, and the NatSoc part of it is in conflict with the brand the ToZ has been creating.

Which is why there should be no problem in renaming it, or again getting rid of all racial subforums, unless whites having their own group for something is by default considered NATSOC or racist, just like everywhere else. Norse also paganism because of some ignorant skinheads is by default always associated with hate and bigotry in a lot of places. It will reinforce sentiments with pro NATSOC whites who have doubts here what they already believe if they see that other races have special places here where as whites are seen as "privileged", when acoss the world we are far from such, not to mention the minority across the globe as well. Whites are the minority of the entire world and of all the races regardless of politics they are looked at as "bigots" for wanting their own groups for anything at all.

Just saying if race should not be a factor for anything here anymore it should go all the way. my point still stands there shouldn't be special race groups for anything, as all the main forums are for all races all the same to talk about spirituality and the Gods.

 

[Lucius Invictus [NG]]

The description of these subforums are outdated.

It may be necessary for these subforums to remain in order to address the broad historical influences related to Zevism. Regions such as Africa and the Orient encompass a vast range of traditions and developments.

 

[Shadowcat]

The description of these subforums are outdated.

It may be necessary for these subforums to remain in order to address the broad historical influences related to Zevism. Regions such as Africa and the Orient encompass a vast range of traditions and developments.

That is valid and very true. But does this not also count for Norse, Slavic and other southern European cultures also there are ancient white civilizations that have been with the Gods as well, although much knowledge and information was destroyed. perhaps more information can be salvaged for this

 

[Lucius Invictus [NG]]

@Shadowcat
The Temple of Zeus already includes, among many others, Norse, Vedic, and, of course, Greek spiritual traditions. We are ever expanding and inclusive to ALL contributions of Satya, historically.

What you recommended is already happening.

 

[Shadowcat]

@Shadowcat
The Temple of Zeus already includes, among many others, Norse, Vedic, and, of course, Greek spiritual traditions. We are ever expanding and inclusive to ALL contributions of Satya, historically.

What you recommended is already happening.

If this is and can already happen without a special subforum for whites, can't this also happen with other cultures and races without specific subforums (unless some information is there that hasn't be archived or put in the library ect), going back to my original point.

 

[Lucius Invictus [NG]]

@Shadowcat
Temple of Zeus has a healthy amount of Indo-European cultural representation, including the linguistic roots of our God's name.

I don't see why there must be further stratification.

 

[Shadowcat]

@Shadowcat
Temple of Zeus has a healthy amount of Indo-European cultural representation, including the linguistic roots of our God's name.

I don't see why there must be further stratification.

Which is why also again, there should be no point of the other racial sub forums then. There does not have to be special sub forums for nonwhites. If information about our Gods in the TOZ can be where it already is for whites so can the information on our Gods for other cultures and races be as well. There does not need to be special places for special treatment for this. I also don't see the need for stratification.

 

[Lucius Invictus [NG]]

As I previously mentioned, the subforums are out of date. For example, "High Priest Lucius Oria."

Why don't we have a little bit of patience and wait for clarification, instead of jumping to conclusions that some are receiving special treatment in a forum with little to no activity.

Is this okay?

 

[Shadowcat]

As I previously mentioned, the subforums are out of date. For example, "High Priest Lucius Oria."

Why don't we have a little bit of patience and wait for clarification, instead of jumping to conclusions that some are receiving special treatment in a forum with little to no activity.

Is this okay?

I was not implying anything needed to be rushed. I'm sure there is a lot of outdated information that needs cleaned up.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

@Shadowcat
Temple of Zeus has a healthy amount of Indo-European cultural representation, including the linguistic roots of our God's name.

I don't see why there must be further stratification.

TOZ is entirely controlled by Europeans from almost every part of the hierarchy, except perhaps some Turkish NGs, who may be White as well.

These “le victim” mentalities got to stop, lol.

 

[Shadowcat]

TOZ is entirely controlled by Europeans from almost every part of the hierarchy, except perhaps some Turkish NGs, who may be White as well.

These “le victim” mentalities got to stop, lol.

I had a genuine inquiry and was replying to empty rebuttals. Leave if you can't be constructive. Don't shart shit with me. It's obvious many others wanted to ask the same thing.

 

[EasternFireLion666]

Bringing all gentiles together to the Gods is one thing, but hinting that the juice can be redeemed is another. They can only come to a place if they modify it. I look at their behavior every day, even though I have better things to do, they are the same, they do not wish to change, just change others. We must understand what is happening. The economy is crashing and it will affect us no matter how much we meditate. We may grow spiritually and physically, but they are still the same and have a lot of influence on legislation, demographics, geopolitics and so on. Keep an eye on the Temple of Zeus so pages do not get altered to much. Spiritual evolution is a must, but self defense is part of life. You cannot ignore a thug that stabs you, just because you are learning medicine or economy. If those get too much power all your other powers and abilities will mean nothing. Be vigilant!

 

[Shadowcat]

Bringing all gentiles together to the Gods is one thing, but hinting that the juice can be redeemed is another. They can only come to a place if they modify it. I look at their behavior every day, even though I have better things to do, they are the same, they do not wish to change, just change others. We must understand what is happening. The economy is crashing and it will affect us no matter how much we meditate. We may grow spiritually and physically, but they are still the same and have a lot of influence on legislation, demographics, geopolitics and so on. Keep an eye on the Temple of Zeus so pages do not get altered to much. Spiritual evolution is a must, but self defense is part of life. You cannot ignore a thug that stabs you, just because you are learning medicine or economy. If those get too much power all your other powers and abilities will mean nothing. Be vigilant!

This thread is merely talking about removing the racial sub forums and questioning their uses, also based on other comments. That's all I enquired on. That's all this thread was for.

 

[EasternFireLion666]

This thread is merely talking about removing the racial sub forums and questioning their uses, also based on other comments. That's all I enquired on. That's all this thread was for.

Yeah, I got that, but I was also referring to the latest video because I am trying to make some correlations here with some known patterns of the enemy. It is just a valid inquiry. Did you see the latest YT video of Temple of Zeus? maybe I understood wrong, but it seems to invalidate the concept of gentiles and Yehuborim on a racial level. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Henu the Great]

The economy is crashing and it will affect us no matter how much we meditate.

Those who have no means are affected, the rest not so much. As Zevists, we are in a good position to utilize magick to learn and to adapt so that whatever turbulence comes is mitigated or even completely brushed off. So yes, meditation does help. Along with studying, that is.