URGENT HELP - Moving Out...?

Sketches wrote:

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Unfortunately, there is not enough time or energy to fix every problem that may appear in your life, and so you have to prioritize and be critical.

If you leave the house, I assume you will have to get a job and take care of yourself, which represents some energy expenditure. But, if you feel compelled to help your family and these animals in some way, then you would have an additional burden on your time and energy.

Correct me if I am wrong, but were you in a position to remain unemployed as long as you helped out at your family's house? If so, then you have to compare this to living independently and the workload that comes from a job. Take into account the emotional drain, as well as whether or not you plan to continue helping them or not.

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It is not right for you to be continually picking up for people who cannot help themselves. It is unfortunate when this extends to animals who have no control over the matter as well. However, the same thing applies where you really have to focus on yourself and cannot get dragged back "into the mud", so to speak.

If you were to move out, you should distance yourself as far as possible from this mess, including from the animals. Otherwise, you would now be burdened with a job plus the animals, which may take an extraordinary amount of energy to fix.

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You have to contemplate how your workings will pan out: A binding on something only addresses one factor of the whole mess. For example, maybe it will stop them from abusing the animals or purchasing more, but it won't make them fully care for them.

With the money spell, they may have more money, but continue to spend it impulsively, perhaps making things worse if they get more pets. You could do magic that would compel them to care for the animals, but again this may take a lot of energy if there are enough factors against it, plus if you are trying to alter multiple family members.

If this is taking an hour from your advancement every day, then this is already becoming too much, because this sounds like something that won't be solved by 1 40-day working.

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Also consider that if you move out and withdraw your support completely, this may temporarily worsen the condition of the animals, but it may also force them to do something about it. Another solution to this problem, in an extreme case, would be to threaten to report them for animal cruelty, if they let the situation become worse.

The point is that you are transferring responsibility to them, and they have to deal with any consequences. However, this would not work if you are still offering partial support, such as coming over to help every now and then, or something similar.

It would not be wise to adopt all the pets from them either unless you plan on giving some away for adoption. Speaking of this, you should talk to them about giving away some, and express that the burden is very draining on you.

Sketches wrote:

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Another solution, which is perhaps what you were already referring to: Bind them so they cannot stop you, then simply drop off all the pets at the shelter.

Keep in mind that this won't protect you from any backlash from your family, whether it be emotional or legal. They may also go back to the shelter and get the pets back, too.

This leads to a further point that if you were already planning on some action that leaves you emotionally disconnected from the animal, then the easiest solution would be to leave them behind at your family's house. Then, you can threaten to report them if the situation becomes deplorable.

Keep in mind that a shelter is not going to provide any significant emotional care for them either.

Sketches wrote:

I never thought it would happen on a day like this...

This topic is a follow-up of this one I made a while back.External ↗

So... something happened. My mom physically hurled a shoulder bag at me and kept pulling my arm to hurt me because of the topic I linked above.

"I WISHED YOU DIDN'T ADOPTED SO MANY THEN!!"

Was the trigger that set her off. Just that sentence. There was none of me complaining about this to her until this night, so her sudden negative reaction has taken me aback.

I told about this to my close friends hours ago, and they quickly took my side and wanted me to get out of this environment, and because they believed that my age as a young adult and a phase to get a job can be done. Obviously, this plan is still on planning phase because the physical confrontation just happened this day. I don't want to set any alarms off.

The thing is, this might have to do with me doing Rituals and Returning Curses, ie, dross accumulating and needed to be given attention to. I also kept increasing my AoP. Three times daily and in a normal phase. Yet this event still happened because I am still recovering from on-going enemy attacks.

I still have problems with my sleep schedule, as well as giving time to my pets. And speaking of my pets, this is also why I don't want to leave this house.

My pets all have one thing in common: neglected attention. I can feed them, provide a shelter, and water, but they are clearly unhappy emotionally. Which is why I ignored all the reasons to get a job, use my free time to make art, all for them. And yet my time is never enough because physical lethargy and enemy attacks, due to my emotional state improving due to meditation, specifically when I feel a weight on me.

Yes, I will also do a Binding Spell right now and restart it in January in Moon in Capricorn, as it is a good planetary placement.

I thought I would bless this family with Money Spell because maybe, I was overreacting with the post I made a while back. Now, I just feel a little unease in this place I call home.

My other question as well is: "What will the state of my pets become? Is it fine to leave them here? Being neglected? Or will I wait for my Binding Spell to be complete and take back my pets to a shelter?"

Again, I'm sorry for bothering everyone on a day like this...

Hate to say it but there are instances that can actually act and take animals away from their owners, get them fines etc if they aren't properly taken care of and neglected.

Your best bet would be to contact them once you leave the house. And if there is a pet, that you really want to keep well you should probably try and take it with you.

Also making art for pets is not working on their emotional wellbeing.
They need their interaction and space to run etc. especially huskeys, they need a lot of exercise.

Lunar Dance 666 wrote:

Sketches wrote:

I never thought it would happen on a day like this...

This topic is a follow-up of this one I made a while back.External ↗

So... something happened. My mom physically hurled a shoulder bag at me and kept pulling my arm to hurt me because of the topic I linked above.

"I WISHED YOU DIDN'T ADOPTED SO MANY THEN!!"

Was the trigger that set her off. Just that sentence. There was none of me complaining about this to her until this night, so her sudden negative reaction has taken me aback.

I told about this to my close friends hours ago, and they quickly took my side and wanted me to get out of this environment, and because they believed that my age as a young adult and a phase to get a job can be done. Obviously, this plan is still on planning phase because the physical confrontation just happened this day. I don't want to set any alarms off.

The thing is, this might have to do with me doing Rituals and Returning Curses, ie, dross accumulating and needed to be given attention to. I also kept increasing my AoP. Three times daily and in a normal phase. Yet this event still happened because I am still recovering from on-going enemy attacks.

I still have problems with my sleep schedule, as well as giving time to my pets. And speaking of my pets, this is also why I don't want to leave this house.

My pets all have one thing in common: neglected attention. I can feed them, provide a shelter, and water, but they are clearly unhappy emotionally. Which is why I ignored all the reasons to get a job, use my free time to make art, all for them. And yet my time is never enough because physical lethargy and enemy attacks, due to my emotional state improving due to meditation, specifically when I feel a weight on me.

Yes, I will also do a Binding Spell right now and restart it in January in Moon in Capricorn, as it is a good planetary placement.

I thought I would bless this family with Money Spell because maybe, I was overreacting with the post I made a while back. Now, I just feel a little unease in this place I call home.

My other question as well is: "What will the state of my pets become? Is it fine to leave them here? Being neglected? Or will I wait for my Binding Spell to be complete and take back my pets to a shelter?"

Again, I'm sorry for bothering everyone on a day like this...

Hate to say it but there are instances that can actually act and take animals away from their owners, get them fines etc if they aren't properly taken care of and neglected.

Your best bet would be to contact them once you leave the house. And if there is a pet, that you really want to keep well you should probably try and take it with you.

Also making art for pets is not working on their emotional wellbeing.
They need their interaction and space to run etc. especially huskeys, they need a lot of exercise.

Thanks for tip.. I’ll need to take my dog out for walk more often! I’m in the same situation as you! My mom dad and brother committed credit fraud and stole my social.. my mom stole my social and my dad as well. I believe they tried to kill me.. I know Father Zeus got my back.. and my father and mom will not get away.. I curse them all! They stole from their son! The only reason I’m here is because of satans being and glory… Isaac Flores my brother will
Be a problem.. I feel like Shawshank redemption.. planning my escape. Any help is appreciated brothers and sisters-your friend, Daniel.

Blitzkreig wrote:

Sketches wrote:

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Unfortunately, there is not enough time or energy to fix every problem that may appear in your life, and so you have to prioritize and be critical.

If you leave the house, I assume you will have to get a job and take care of yourself, which represents some energy expenditure. But, if you feel compelled to help your family and these animals in some way, then you would have an additional burden on your time and energy.

Correct me if I am wrong, but were you in a position to remain unemployed as long as you helped out at your family's house? If so, then you have to compare this to living independently and the workload that comes from a job. Take into account the emotional drain, as well as whether or not you plan to continue helping them or not.

I can move to my trusted close friend in their house and I can live rent-free. However, I'd feel bad just staying there, so I feel that I'd get a job out of guilt, even if I have a sleeping schedule problem...

And yes and no. I'm in the position to remain unemployed because of my pets. If I get a job, then who would take care of them?

There was this one time where I suffered eczema and was told to stay in my room to prevent myself from interacting with the pets, and my aunt couldn't bother to feed them. She was literally on her phone in the dark laughing enjoying the "silence", and I hurriedly scooped up dog food for my two huskies back then. Scolding her has no effect because she has no remorse of her stupid decision.

It is not right for you to be continually picking up for people who cannot help themselves. It is unfortunate when this extends to animals who have no control over the matter as well. However, the same thing applies where you really have to focus on yourself and cannot get dragged back "into the mud", so to speak.

If you were to move out, you should distance yourself as far as possible from this mess, including from the animals. Otherwise, you would now be burdened with a job plus the animals, which may take an extraordinary amount of energy to fix.

Well... yes. You're right. You're right, brother Blitzkrieg.

But I feel that, well, maybe, I should convince my aunt gently unto getting my pets to the same friend I mentioned above (they have a family who loves animals, and I even saw a huge cage where they keep their birds in their backyard) , before moving out. At the very least, I won't have to worry about the other pets she'll adopt, as that's her problem now.

...That is, if she fucking agrees.

As the post I linked on ToZ Animal Care Forums, the reason why my two huskies died is because they were placed in the wrong hands, courtesy of my aunt. They didn't even have a veterinarian nearby, which is why they died from the disease and wounds they suffered.

You have to contemplate how your workings will pan out: A binding on something only addresses one factor of the whole mess. For example, maybe it will stop them from abusing the animals or purchasing more, but it won't make them fully care for them.

With the money spell, they may have more money, but continue to spend it impulsively, perhaps making things worse if they get more pets. You could do magic that would compel them to care for the animals, but again this may take a lot of energy if there are enough factors against it, plus if you are trying to alter multiple family members.

If this is taking an hour from your advancement every day, then this is already becoming too much, because this sounds like something that won't be solved by 1 40-day working.

I know. It's... fucking retarded.

It's fucking retarded how I have to do so much just to compel them to do a bit of effort. God I remembered those times where I vented about this topic privately to Father Zeus and Lord Enlil.

I don't know how they feel, but I think... they're sick of the situation I'm in. Same topic, same root of the problem.

In all honesty, my aunt is the only one making things worse for me and my pets. Her nephew doesn't give a shit, because he's busy glueing his eyes on the computer screen 24/7, and her husband is only available for two days before going out to work. It's enough where I consider my household chores an exercise, since that's the only physical movement I can make other than Hatha Yoga.

Also consider that if you move out and withdraw your support completely, this may temporarily worsen the condition of the animals, but it may also force them to do something about it. Another solution to this problem, in an extreme case, would be to threaten to report them for animal cruelty, if they let the situation become worse.

The point is that you are transferring responsibility to them, and they have to deal with any consequences. However, this would not work if you are still offering partial support, such as coming over to help every now and then, or something similar.

It would not be wise to adopt all the pets from them either unless you plan on giving some away for adoption. Speaking of this, you should talk to them about giving away some, and express that the burden is very draining on you.

I already gave similar answers on the second paragraph.

Regarding the report for animal cruelty...

I really hope it doesn't come into that. There are many evidences I can say and testify on, but, I don't have the guts to do it.

Because obviously, this conflict would grow bigger, and I feel that maybe, even if I distance myself from them, I'd still feel that it was my fault that I didn't tried hard enough.

Lunar Dance 666 wrote:

Sketches wrote:

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Hate to say it but there are instances that can actually act and take animals away from their owners, get them fines etc if they aren't properly taken care of and neglected.

Your best bet would be to contact them once you leave the house. And if there is a pet, that you really want to keep well you should probably try and take it with you.

You can read the replies I gave to brother Blitzkrieg, sister. Most of it is already answered.

Also making art for pets is not working on their emotional wellbeing.
They need their interaction and space to run etc. especially huskeys, they need a lot of exercise.

Uh, I think you misunderstood what I'm trying to say in this post.

I can't make art as both my passion and dream career because of my pets.

If I'm not meditating, my attention is focused on the house, and the bit of free time I have would be only on two pets. Because this house is already cramped as it is. Add another additional pet in this house in January, and I don't think there's a chance for me to interact with my pet lovebird at all other than giving them food and water.

I can't even have time for art anymore. If I ever want to make art, either stay up really late at night after doing meditations, or don't make art at all.

I'm literally binded towards my pets at this point.

Anyways, I feel like I shouldn't have said anything at all regarding what happened last night. Like, to all of my comrades and especially to my close friends.

Because I know that if I backed out moving out due to justifiable reasons, my friends would think that I have a fear towards my aunt or some shit like that, when it's mostly because that event only occured this night because I yelled at her. Not to mention, I'm still recovering my physical, mental, and spiritual strength. Binding is going to take some time, and my friend is going to have a problem with my aunt if I move out, because we literally are on the other side of the street away. Should have kept it towards myself, honestly.

I clicked "Submit" too soon and decided to add another option.

If I plan to move out, it's either on my close friend's house that is somewhat farther from my home (downside is my aunt knows where my friend's house is and she might cause a scene) or travel a bit farther away to my other friend who knows my situation, in order to prevent too much confrontation if me and my aunt happen to run towards each other.

Either option would still make my aunt storm in my friend's house, but not on the latter option.

Sketches wrote:

I clicked "Submit" too soon and decided to add another option.

If I plan to move out, it's either on my close friend's house that is somewhat farther from my home (downside is my aunt knows where my friend's house is and she might cause a scene) or travel a bit farther away to my other friend who knows my situation, in order to prevent too much confrontation if me and my aunt happen to run towards each other.

Either option would still make my aunt storm in my friend's house, but not on the latter option.

So how many pets are you now taking care of? It sounds a bit out of place that all your time goes to meditation and foods.

Also how is your sleeping schedule fucked? If it is about sleeping too late, then you should make a proper evening routine, which might be hard if you still live at home.

At first for me it was hard because my mom cooked and we ended up eating at 7.30 most of the time. If you want to sleep earlier its really hard. you won't be able to do yoga before about 9 basicly and that might push it too close to sleeping time and leave you awake.
As for before dinner if I were to do yoga at 6 Id run into the issue of that Id have to cut it off because we ate early.

The above is how the situation was when I started out on this path and is no longer my current circumstance.

If basic things are hindering you, and you cannot get along with your aunt whatsoever, then itd be in your best interest to move out.
You do have a friends place you could stay, at least for a while. You will probably have to find a job, but it doesn't have to be full-time.

Please chart or map out how much time every specific task takes. Then based on that make your decision.

Having a regular evening/morning routine would also help you to make the most of your day.

Also you could ask for extra help and guidance on this and I am not against binding your aunt. To stop her from causing a scene, a binding would be necessary anyway.
But you could ask for the gods to keep an extra eye on the pets. I am sure they understand that you can't do everything yourself.

Perhaps its also not a bad idea to do a working to remove the obstackles in your way from reaching what you have to get to.

Aquarius wrote:

Did you also say you sketch them for their wellbeing? are you out of your mind? animals don't even know what a drawing is. You're living in a delusion.

Like Lunar, you completely misunderstood what I'm trying to convey in this post. Do not worry, I'll simply quote what I already said to her in this topic.

Sketches wrote:

Lunar Dance 666 wrote:

Sketches wrote:

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Also making art for pets is not working on their emotional wellbeing.
They need their interaction and space to run etc. especially huskeys, they need a lot of exercise.

Uh, I think you misunderstood what I'm trying to say in this post.

I can't make art as both my passion and dream career because of my pets.

If I'm not meditating, my attention is focused on the house, and the bit of free time I have would be only on two pets. Because this house is already cramped as it is. Add another additional pet in this house in January, and I don't think there's a chance for me to interact with my pet lovebird at all other than giving them food and water.

I can't even have time for art anymore. If I ever want to make art, either stay up really late at night after doing meditations, or don't make art at all.

I'm literally binded towards my pets at this point.

Aquarius wrote:

You're not really living in real life. Staying at home all the time to stay with your animals? are you crazy? What's gonna happen if your aunt dies or won't support you anymore? You need to do what is realistic, keeping those animals isn't.

All I can say is that I solely focused my free time on my pets and meditations two years ago.

I may be in touch with both reality and spirituality at that time, but I did a rather unhealthy repression of my emotions regarding how I felt on these matters. Hence why my reply to you is a little emotionally numb and this topic has shades of it. I'm not exactly used to expressing myself regarding my family...

The situation is very unfortunate. It's either the wellbeing and spiritual advancement of you or the wellbeing of the pets, having both seems more than full time job, in an unfriendly environment.

I know it's harsh, but you have to see that your life and growing as a person would be more important than the pets. You can choose staying or leaving or whatever else, but I think the only way for growth is the decision to leave. You present us with no other option with your posts. What can I say, rough spot for you...

If the pets are under your aunty's name they are her responsibility alone. Neglect is animal cruelty but it is not your doing, it is hers. YOU DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT HAVE TO LOOK AFTER HER ANIMALS FOR HER.
If you can, find a job and get out of there! You are young, there are plenty of businesses looking for juniors. Refresh your resume and cover letter. Get yourself a nice job interview outfit, even if it has to be second hand. Go for a walk around your neighborhood, look online, ask friends, get the idea of looking after someone else's pets out of your head and start to get yourself a job now! Go in, ask for the manager, smile and hand your resume in person. Call maccas, taco bell, anywhere just to get yourself started. House share or stay at a friend's if you have to. Wash all your clothes so they are clean when you leave. Get yourself a backpack and put emergency leaving supplies in (a day or two worth of clothes and toiletries) and a suitcase to put your things in to move. Try to do this when your aunty will not notice. If she steals your things, leave them with your friends and tell them (if you trust them) what's going on. I have a bitcoin wallet if you need emergency money. Do not be afraid to ask for help from anyone you know, you don't have to go it alone. Don't do it to yourself - do not stay in this abusive house any more!

You could call an animal welfare hotline and report her (after you leave and are somewhere safe - she will probably know it was you) for neglect, make sure you mention 2 dogs have died already, they may investigate the situation and possibly rehome the animals where they can be happy. I don't know how the fuck she is getting dogs but get that investigated too, as here you have to be checked out and have a good history before you get an animal, so somebody is just giving her dogs with no questions asked.

Henu the Great wrote:

The situation is very unfortunate. It's either the wellbeing and spiritual advancement of you or the wellbeing of the pets, having both seems more than full time job, in an unfriendly environment.

I know it's harsh, but you have to see that your life and growing as a person would be more important than the pets. You can choose staying or leaving or whatever else, but I think the only way for growth is the decision to leave. You present us with no other option with your posts. What can I say, rough spot for you...

Ah, brother Henu :D

Thanks for the concern, and yes. Don't worry. I'm already deciding as to what to do first before putting my plan in action. I just have a hard time taking this reality in because I did got used to taking care of the pets and having to keep my mouth shut because of personal circumstances, only blowing up at certain points and triggers.

Now, it's clear as daylight as to what I should do. Wish me luck, and hopefully, all comes into place soon.

Soul Wings wrote:

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Thanks for the concern, sister :D

But,

House share or stay at a friend's if you have to. Wash all your clothes so they are clean when you leave. Get yourself a backpack and put emergency leaving supplies in (a day or two worth of clothes and toiletries) and a suitcase to put your things in to move. Try to do this when your aunty will not notice. If she steals your things, leave them with your friends and tell them (if you trust them) what's going on.

...like I said before, I think I'll leave this house "amicably" due to these annoying scenarios.

My aunt allows me to have a job, but, again, the reason why I didn't is because one: the pets' wellbeing. And two: meditations. Since the cons of staying here is outweighing the pros, I have no choice but to move out, thanks to your concerns.

So my plan is, to reassure you all, is that I'll just leave "amicably." Pretend that I'm in still in good terms with her, even if she hasn't apologized to what she did, until I leave this house by getting a job. That way, she has a less chance of causing a scene if she has an idea where I am.

I have a bitcoin wallet if you need emergency money.

Though, this? Aha, you don't have to. I'll just have to bless myself with Money Spells, so 😅

Don't try to say that to anyone, by the way, and take care of your own digital wallet, comrade :D

The bitcoin idea, however. I might consider having one since I keep hearing everyone mention it here nowadays...

You could call an animal welfare hotline and report her (after you leave and are somewhere safe - she will probably know it was you) for neglect, make sure you mention 2 dogs have died already, they may investigate the situation and possibly rehome the animals where they can be happy. I don't know how the fuck she is getting dogs but get that investigated too, as here you have to be checked out and have a good history before you get an animal, so somebody is just giving her dogs with no questions asked.

Yeah, let's just say, she attracted someone who has the same wavelength as her to give her pets she has sights on.

If my aunt has a new pet, it's either because she liked it, this rich breeder wanted to give it to her, and she immediately considered without thinking of how limited the space in this house already is, or she knows I'll take care of it...

...since her daughter needs to do more household chores in this stupid house because she's a domesticated woman!1!!1! Forget how she feels, those other pets that died because of obvious circumstances?

Just.

Get.

A new one!! (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

Anyways, I'm done. I think it's fine to end this topic since it's up to me to enact this plan.

And again, thank you, everyone who helped me. I really had a hard time meditating and focusing on Father Zeus (I literally posted this topic at Dec. 23rd) , so hopefully, once I get out of this house, maybe I can focus on doing Rituals, as thanks for the Gods more.