Theist Zevism and Occultism?

-ismism is the ism for me. That's personally my favourite ism, you should check it out if you have the time.

Yeah they're just words to define the little nuances of belief but otherwise it's just pointless as true Zevism becomes less about belief and more about knowledge as one progresses. -ismisms are a primitive ideological system.

They are pretty much intrinsically bound them two words, I'm guessing occult-ism is where they do spiritual works, but play around with objects thinking the power comes from the objects not themselves+ they haven't yet decided on whether they want to commit to Satya yet, I.e Occultism would be just general interest in the occult and thus not a safe thing if you are led astray. Otherwise it's really whatever, I would see it particularly as just dabbling right? Better off going all in and being a Zevist because there's no gamble and a guaranteed 666% return on your investment :lol:

13th_Wolf wrote:

-ismism is the ism for me. That's personally my favourite ism, you should check it out if you have the time.

Yeah they're just words to define the little nuances of belief but otherwise it's just pointless as true Zevism becomes less about belief and more about knowledge as one progresses. -ismisms are a primitive ideological system.

They are pretty much intrinsically bound them two words, I'm guessing occult-ism is where they do spiritual works, but play around with objects thinking the power comes from the objects not themselves+ they haven't yet decided on whether they want to commit to Satya yet, I.e Occultism would be just general interest in the occult and thus not a safe thing if you are led astray. Otherwise it's really whatever, I would see it particularly as just dabbling right? Better off going all in and being a Zevist because there's no gamble and a guaranteed 666% return on your investment :lol:

This caught my eye ,was a very interesting quote.

I recommend you read this book,
The End of Philosophy, the Origin of 'Ideology': Karl Marx and the Crisis of the Young Hegelians
http://library.lol/main/DD9B21D3BC44D6C26E3BCA7E7630480F

Occult just means hidden. Zevism is the study of the occult, nothing more.

Jack wrote:

13th_Wolf wrote:

-ismism is the ism for me. That's personally my favourite ism, you should check it out if you have the time.

Yeah they're just words to define the little nuances of belief but otherwise it's just pointless as true Zevism becomes less about belief and more about knowledge as one progresses. -ismisms are a primitive ideological system.

They are pretty much intrinsically bound them two words, I'm guessing occult-ism is where they do spiritual works, but play around with objects thinking the power comes from the objects not themselves+ they haven't yet decided on whether they want to commit to Satya yet, I.e Occultism would be just general interest in the occult and thus not a safe thing if you are led astray. Otherwise it's really whatever, I would see it particularly as just dabbling right? Better off going all in and being a Zevist because there's no gamble and a guaranteed 666% return on your investment :lol:

This caught my eye ,was a very interesting quote.

I recommend you read this book,
The End of Philosophy, the Origin of 'Ideology': Karl Marx and the Crisis of the Young Hegelians
http://library.lol/main/DD9B21D3BC44D6C26E3BCA7E7630480F

Thanks, I'll have to read it at some point this week when I'm not busy

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fqj0pXGQbLg&list=PLSXIM_UPJfFUrr4qtyJlt6C0x8PP14s0i&index=5

Check out this band^, I think you'll like them. Ahead of their time.

Also this- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QjA-aFWOZOw
(Right now it's got 666 thousand views which gives me hope in people today. I think that's the lockdown's work)

I rate that this guy and his band Ultravox pretty much invented The Police, Depeche Mode and all of the electronic popular music at large. That's an exaggeration though, there were others but yeah- the obscure ones do it for me personally.

This is a better video- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dW54X5IEgIk

13th_Wolf wrote:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fqj0pXGQbLg&list=PLSXIM_UPJfFUrr4qtyJlt6C0x8PP14s0i&index=5

Check out this band^, I think you'll like them. Ahead of their time.

Japan just got a new listener. Don't know about their other stuff, but that album I like.

UMBRA_MESSENGER108 wrote:

Thanks, i was just looking for another name, if there is one, for Theist Zevism.

I'm following the Ordo Umbra book in ToZ site and it says somewhere along the line to never tell your enemies you're real religion and that's why i'm looking for another name that might give hints That i'm Theist Zevist aand that's why most of the time I simply went with "Mage" or "Warlock" without going too much into details with non-TS.

I'd avoid reading strange books by delusional individuals who glamourized self-harm as a form of self-discipline. That books is NOT on the ToZ library, as is nothing from that person... for good reason.

Stormblood wrote:

UMBRA_MESSENGER108 wrote:

Thanks, i was just looking for another name, if there is one, for Theist Zevism.

I'm following the Ordo Umbra book in ToZ site and it says somewhere along the line to never tell your enemies you're real religion and that's why i'm looking for another name that might give hints That i'm Theist Zevist aand that's why most of the time I simply went with "Mage" or "Warlock" without going too much into details with non-TS.

I'd avoid reading strange books by delusional individuals who glamourized self-harm as a form of self-discipline. That books is NOT on the ToZ library, as is nothing from that person... for good reason.

If that book is NOT on the ToZ site..so why it's still available thru their site?

Scroll down ToZ.org to Links >> Free Satanic E-Books & online resources >> Click on Blue (Older Posts) Button down the page >> You'll find Ordo Umbra E-Book right above Ayperos - Book of Posts.

UMBRA_MESSENGER108 wrote:

Stormblood wrote:

UMBRA_MESSENGER108 wrote:

Thanks, i was just looking for another name, if there is one, for Theist Zevism.

I'm following the Ordo Umbra book in ToZ site and it says somewhere along the line to never tell your enemies you're real religion and that's why i'm looking for another name that might give hints That i'm Theist Zevist aand that's why most of the time I simply went with "Mage" or "Warlock" without going too much into details with non-TS.

I'd avoid reading strange books by delusional individuals who glamourized self-harm as a form of self-discipline. That books is NOT on the ToZ library, as is nothing from that person... for good reason.

If that book is NOT on the ToZ site..so why it's still available thru their site?

Scroll down ToZ.org to Links >> Free Satanic E-Books & online resources >> Click on Blue (Older Posts) Button down the page >> You'll find Ordo Umbra E-Book right above Ayperos - Book of Posts.

What Mercury Wisdom said. Moreover, ToZ does not advocate self-harm. It promotes healing and growth instead, which do not come from cutting yourself and other practices that show severe hang-ups related to the muladhara chakra.

UMBRA_MESSENGER108 wrote:

in ToZ site and it says somewhere along the line to never tell your enemies you're real religion and that's why i'm looking for another name that might give hints That i'm Theist Zevist aand that's why most of the time I simply went with "Mage" or "Warlock" without going too much into details with non-TS.

Ehh, honestly you should not give any clues or hints. To close friends, you can tell them you are a pagan, deist, or wiccan. To anyone else, just say athiest or non-religious.

There is really nothing to gain, yet a lot to lose, if people learn what you truly believe. Always better to hold your tongue.

If you want to convert someone, however, you would start slowly with exposing christanity, exposing kabbalah, etc. Then show them stuff on occult stuff, depending on how much they believe in spirituality. From here, you could probably start to tie together exactly how bad Christianity is. You could also show how ancient cultures practices yoga and meditation.

The point is go for small steps that that the person may slowly accept, instead of just launching straight into the heavy material. I wouldn't use Satan's name until the later stages, for example. Just say "pagan gods".

Blitzkreig wrote:

UMBRA_MESSENGER108 wrote:

in ToZ site and it says somewhere along the line to never tell your enemies you're real religion and that's why i'm looking for another name that might give hints That i'm Theist Zevist aand that's why most of the time I simply went with "Mage" or "Warlock" without going too much into details with non-TS.

Ehh, honestly you should not give any clues or hints. To close friends, you can tell them you are a pagan, deist, or wiccan. To anyone else, just say athiest or non-religious.

There is really nothing to gain, yet a lot to lose, if people learn what you truly believe. Always better to hold your tongue.

If you want to convert someone, however, you would start slowly with exposing christanity, exposing kabbalah, etc. Then show them stuff on occult stuff, depending on how much they believe in spirituality. From here, you could probably start to tie together exactly how bad Christianity is. You could also show how ancient cultures practices yoga and meditation.

The point is go for small steps that that the person may slowly accept, instead of just launching straight into the heavy material. I wouldn't use Satan's name until the later stages, for example. Just say "pagan gods".

Makes sense, thanks :)