'The' Zevists

Sharp catch, and your grammar reasoning holds together cleanly. Before I say anything else, the honest linguistic answer: you are right about standard English prose. The definite article marks a specific referent already in context, so when the speaker intends "everyone of us," the zero article ("Zevists") is the more technically accurate choice. No quibbling with that part.

What changes the picture is the register. Ritual address is its own linguistic mode, closer to liturgical proclamation than to conversation. Look across religious traditions and you see the same pattern: a Catholic priest says "The faithful" to everyone in the pews, a military chaplain addresses "the troops," an Old English coronation rite names "the liege subjects of this realm." The definite article is doing ceremonial work; it singles out the congregation physically present, marks the threshold between sacred and profane time, and gives the invocation weight. Compare it to how a wedding officiant says "Dear beloved" or a judge says "Will the jury please rise." The article is performative, not referential. That is what "The Zevists" is doing inside the invocation; it is pulling the gathered congregation into the ritual frame.

You can see the Temple itself recognizing this same distinction, just in different places. The Standard RitualExternal ↗ on templeofzeus.org runs the invocation in that formal register where "The Zevists" fits naturally. Turn to High Priest Zevios Metathronos's prose, though, and the zero article takes over without ceremony. His piece literally titled Relations Between Zevists: Clarifying The SubjectExternal ↗ drops the article entirely, and High Priestess Lydia Coventina's Regarding God RitualsExternal ↗ writes "other Zevists" in the middle of a sentence about congregational behavior. Same speaker community, same word, two different grammatical homes, and both chosen on purpose.

So think of it as register-switching rather than inconsistency. Prose is teaching and explanation, so it leans on the clean logical form you flagged. Ritual is invocation, so it leans on the ceremonial form. I would not read a language choice that the Clergy has used consistently across years as a mistake without raising it with them first. Their feedback channels, Criticism and Feedback: How Can We Improve?External ↗ and Formal Papers: Feedback/Recommendations/ComplaintsExternal ↗, exist precisely so observations like yours actually land somewhere they can be considered.

Practical next step if you want to pursue it: do the Standard RitualExternal ↗ as written when you sit down for your next session, and let the line you are questioning land in your own voice. Feel which form sits more naturally in your mouth when you are actually addressing the Gods. That lived sense will tell you more than any grammar rule about which form honors the moment better, and it is the kind of observation that becomes genuinely useful if you ever draft feedback for the Clergy.

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It's important to realise that most non-English people who want to learn English actually speak and spell in American, instead of in English. With that in mind, we realise that we can ignore their mispronunciations and misspellings, but then it bleeds into English. Years ago, I saw a bit of a programme about something and an American was happy with - what he said, not my words - "contaminating" elsewhere with American things, americanisms, americanisation. It's a metaphor for Spiritual Advancement - hang-out with undesirables, and you'll reduce to rubbish. (One user presumed or suggested ages ago that the reason why the Gods and Goddesses couldn't remain on Earth for these last several thousand years was because our vibrationary existence is too low for Them.)

Even then, on the very rare occasion when a non-English person wants to speak and spell in English correctly, presuming that they mean received English, then that also poses a problem - in the phrase "for example", "correct" English would be "for exarmple", but there isn't an R in "example". No matter how much "correct" or correct English one speaks, spells, writes and types, ignorance, arrogance, carelessness, etc., prevail, along with local differences, and "Does it matter?!" is mostly the question that is often asked rhetorically. Yes, it matters. Since "Satan" means "enemy, adversary", not "Truth Eternal".* That is why it matters, but then again "Meh", instead is the attitude and response, mispronunciations, misspellings, attempts at poetic licence instead of creating, using and perverting their own language, and learning actual English, and all; while actual English have actual poetic licence. Plus there's no such thing as "British English" and "American English"; English of is England; there isn't a British England and an AmericEngland. If there were, then "American English" might exist. Australian English. Canadian English... with colonialism, etc. (and for example the Philippines shouldn't be named the Philippines after the christian colonisation of the area by Spain).

Regardless of all of that, English is a bastardised language, anyway, but still - it's important to try to hold onto what we can, where we can, when we can, especially with melting pots and mixtures, to try and have what's our own, in our own, of our own, with our own. It would be great if a Zimbabwean went to Japan and spoke "Japanese" instead of Japanese, and promoted their own incorrect attempts of Japanese, wouldn't it? No?! SMH.

In short - it supposedly doesn't matter. No-one cares, and there's more than too much corruption within English, despite attempting to be English, remaining English, holding on to what little of English values, customs, identity, etc. remains that we can. Within English, the difference between how the toffs speak and how the commoners speak is significant. It apparently does matter. That seems to extend Earth-wide.

*sarcasm

Even the liturgical register obeys the rules of grammar.

‘the + an adjective’ describes a group of people. It follows regular rules of grammar. Thus, ‘the faithful’, ‘the beloved’ is simply correct.

‘the troops’ is also correct, provided the military unit was mentioned before. Also, instead of ‘the’, it’s possible to add a possessive adjective, or in general an adjective to describe a given unit, eg. ‘our troops’, ‘American troops’, ‘all available troops’.

There are group nouns that are always plural, e.g. police, staff, crew, jury, as well as family to an extent. What is omitted is ‘members’ - hence: police (members) are, staff (members) were, crew (members) have, jury (members) were, as well as family (members) are, etc. Nothing liturgical - just grammar.

https://templeofzeus.org/Ritual.phpExternal ↗ - there isn’t any phrase like ‘the Zevist’ here. Everything here is grammatically correct.

https://ancient-forums.com/threads/relations-between-zevists-clarifying-the-subject.86829 - again, there is nothing that disproves my stance. Not even that - just grammar. Everything, as far as an indefinite article + noun (plural or singular) is perfectly correct. So, to illustrate:

1)“The matter here involved relations between Zevists and what I write here comes from many many years of experience in this matter.”

2) “The above is not easy. It is the task most human beings avoid. Zevists differ in that we look at this situation and want to solve it.”

3)”Zevists are also except of different people, ranked in their own respective levels of development, which have to do everything with both of what one "is" and what one "does" at the same time.”

If it were ‘the Zevists’, it would mean a specific group WITHIN our community. But, High Priest Zevios uses the zero article to mean ALL of us. Nothing liturgical, just pure grammar.

https://ancient-forums.com/threads/criticism-and-feedback-how-can-we-improve.79974 - Hey, thanks! Because in all honesty, I had no idea where I could post this - I wanted to send this to our HP so that others would not think I’m being disrespectful or somesuch, but apparently I can’t.

Final note, if it were “the Zevist”, all in singular, it would be ‘the + person’ meaning as a representative for all of us.

Examples of such a use: The tiger is an endangered species.

Sorry for the color - there's no white :|

Thank you for your feedback. The choice to make the changes will be taken by High Priest, whether he wrote in that way intentionally or not.

Anyway, this is a trivial issue, so it will be given the corresponding prority. People will read "the Zevists" and "Zevists" the same way, if it is not followed by a sentence that specifies something else.

Don't worry about it, and focus on the power the Rituals provide to us.

Come a specificato ILSG NASCOSTO GUERRIERO *SONO COSE DI POCA IMPORTANZA. "

Quello più'importante è eseguire I RITUALI DI POTERE perche' sono stati creati con l'intenzione di riconoscere gli Dei e riportarli alla loro origine, questa è la Linea guida dei ritui di potere.

@TheBlackWyrmFull site ↗ When I was a christian, depending on personality and sheep-ness and gullibility of copying off the higher-ups, or being higher-up alrady, any preacher or preachers would say "christian" while referring to either all christians as a whole or all christians in the congregation of the building. For example, I'd address Zevists, after I became pious and fundamentalist enough, and I'd take on a certain psychology perhaps out of arrogance or conceit, and other things, and instead of saying, "You Zevists are the peek of civilisation upon Planet Earth" or "Us Zevists are the peek of civilisation upon Planet Earth" or similar, I'd say "You, Zevist, are the peek of civilisation upon the Planet Earth". See over-the-top televangelists and their propaganda and drama. It happens for some people.

I'm not saying any of the Clergy here are arrogant or hubristic or whatever; I know about them only as much as I see and hear in ToZ materials. I used this example from christianity because I knew some of them in-person when I was a christian, so I can be more confident in sharing that as an example. Every... organisation, group, thing, has its own terminology/lingo/jargon, and manner of speaking - or typing, and the personalities of the higher-ups drip-down to, and influence, some others; and based on what I can gather (so I might be mistaken), High Priest is not an English (or American) native speaker.

@Hidden Warrior [SG]Full site ↗ I think you might realise more than the OP that I was pedantic about such things! From me, it's about keeping things correct, as I said above. It might be trivial, but maybe it makes a difference in other languages. Again an example from christianity - a preacher was guest preaching in a foreign country, and used the term, "Fix your eyes on Jesus", to mean "always keep looking, and never look away" and the translator was uncertain because they thought it meant to literally attach one's eyes upon the biblical character, so the English preacher had to rephrease it.

@TheBlackWyrmFull site ↗ It can also depend on context - if maybe comparing Zevists with andrapoda, for example, then using "the" and not using "the" can both make sense in English. If it doesn't make sense in your language to add "the", then do the best that you can. As long as you mean what you do in trying to be correct with the truth (or with truth!), then that's important.

Hello TheBlackWyrm, if you mean instances such as, from the current ritual of Ceto: "The Zevists know the truth" or "Rise for the Zevists, Tiamat." or "Cast your net over the enemies of the Zevists.", "the" is definitely correct in here and addressing all Zevists. Pointing towards a particular group within "Zevists" is not meant in the ritual and the use of "the" does not denote that either. The Zevists here is just correct as Zevists.

The definite article in English is not just used to refer back to a topic or part of a group, it is also used for specific emphasis of a group or grouping as a standing collective category. The Tuatha Dé Danann. The Athenians. We the People. Most notably "Power to the People..." There is a slightly different nuance between "He hated Athenians" and "He hated the Athenians," especially in high-register contexts as a bare noun vs. collective noun.

In this context, the Zevists is correct. It also aligns with the translation from Ancient Greek.