Smoking/Drugs - Existing Damage

Aerobic exercise helps to purify the lungs and cardiovascular system overall, and also breath of fire. Can not really understate the importance of breath of fire.

GoldenxChild1 wrote:

Okay so I really detest admitting flaws in front of my brothers and sisters yet we are a family and this is what we are here for.

I'll make this quick yet detailed. I have been an Zevism since 2017-18 but didn't start meditation until somewhere in 2019 and I lacked consistency. It wasn't until late 2020 that I truly started to get disciplined. Anyhow, during 2018-2019-2020 I was into Cocaine, Methamphetamine, Cannabis, Cigarettes, and I was on Anti-Depressants. It was some of the worst times in my life in Mind, Body and Soul. Only through Satan was I able to get a taste of fresh air; I have been clean from stimulants from half of 2020 until now. As for cannabis I have been clean since around February 2021 until now. The only thing that I still struggle with is cigarettes as funny as that is. I do not buy them anymore but my girls parents are smokers and I always smoke when I am around them. I just went 3 weeks with no smoking yet folded last night when they offered it to me.

Given the above, I have suffered the lasting effects. My physical health as taken it's toll, especially my lungs. I have made great strides with the afflictions of my Mind and Soul yet still have work to do. I didn't realize just how much damage these substances do to your moral compass, I have done things out of my true character that I only feel regret and guilt for. I only realized the depravity of myself since advancing, meditation has brought up colossal sea monsters and sometimes I feel small in comparison to them. I understand that my childhood played a part as well. Lady Agares has really been there for me and reassuring me that I haven't been forsaken.

I do hatha yoga twice a day along with pranayama, meditation, and Ritual's. I think I need to root out the issues more specifically though.

So I guess I just wanted to share a little about myself to my family in Satan and hope that I can get some advice and maybe a working or two.

HAIL ZEUS
HAIL AGARES

Hail Brother!

( in my opinnion) All of the addictions are a form of "distraction from a problem" and the problem is most often a Trauma that has not yet been adressed.

I salute you on your progress where you dropped all of the hard drugs and weed. And I understand that cigs are the most difficult to drop. You can get them easy and there is no law that forbids you from using them.

If you want to completely stop smoking, you will have to find out why have you been using them in the first place. What i learned from my own expirience, not evereyone is strong enough to just drop them( i stopped for a year and then the first big bad thing that happened to me i picked it up again).

My advice to you would be to seek a psychiatrist( or theraphist, im not sure which one is the one where you talk about your life problems) who will not give you antidepressants but talk to you about your Childhood and where it went wrong.

There are people who know themselves really good. And who can process their Traumas alone, if you are in that group of people I am sure that you will conquer cigs also. Some who are not that advanced( in this situation me) need to seek out people who can help them to self-reflect and figure out where the problem is.

One last thing, people are not born perfect, perhaps you should try to (this will sound christian but dunno how to say it another way) accept what you have done, and move on. Guilt is something that the enemy can easily exploit. You are now on the true path, all that has happend in your life brought you here. The self whipping ( methaphoricaly) is a thing that christians do.

Best of luck to you, Borther!

Hail Father Zeus!
Hail Mother Lilith!
Hail Teacher!
Hail Guardian!

Henu the Great wrote:

Aerobic exercise helps to purify the lungs and cardiovascular system overall, and also breath of fire. Can not really understate the importance of breath of fire.

I'll start building on that thanks Henu

F_For_Flamingo wrote:

GoldenxChild1 wrote:

Hail Brother!

( in my opinnion) All of the addictions are a form of "distraction from a problem" and the problem is most often a Trauma that has not yet been adressed.

I salute you on your progress where you dropped all of the hard drugs and weed. And I understand that cigs are the most difficult to drop. You can get them easy and there is no law that forbids you from using them.

If you want to completely stop smoking, you will have to find out why have you been using them in the first place. What i learned from my own expirience, not evereyone is strong enough to just drop them( i stopped for a year and then the first big bad thing that happened to me i picked it up again).

My advice to you would be to seek a psychiatrist( or theraphist, im not sure which one is the one where you talk about your life problems) who will not give you antidepressants but talk to you about your Childhood and where it went wrong.

There are people who know themselves really good. And who can process their Traumas alone, if you are in that group of people I am sure that you will conquer cigs also. Some who are not that advanced( in this situation me) need to seek out people who can help them to self-reflect and figure out where the problem is.

One last thing, people are not born perfect, perhaps you should try to (this will sound christian but dunno how to say it another way) accept what you have done, and move on. Guilt is something that the enemy can easily exploit. You are now on the true path, all that has happend in your life brought you here. The self whipping ( methaphoricaly) is a thing that christians do.

Best of luck to you, Borther!

Hail Father Zeus!
Hail Mother Lilith!
Hail Teacher!
Hail Guardian!

I haven't taken anti depressants since July of 2021 and I prefer being off of them. I'll take what you said in mind thank you so much for your time.

GoldenxChild1 wrote:

Okay so I really detest admitting flaws in front of my brothers and sisters yet we are a family and this is what we are here for.

I'll make this quick yet detailed. I have been an Zevism since 2017-18 but didn't start meditation until somewhere in 2019 and I lacked consistency. It wasn't until late 2020 that I truly started to get disciplined. Anyhow, during 2018-2019-2020 I was into Cocaine, Methamphetamine, Cannabis, Cigarettes, and I was on Anti-Depressants. It was some of the worst times in my life in Mind, Body and Soul. Only through Satan was I able to get a taste of fresh air; I have been clean from stimulants from half of 2020 until now. As for cannabis I have been clean since around February 2021 until now. The only thing that I still struggle with is cigarettes as funny as that is. I do not buy them anymore but my girls parents are smokers and I always smoke when I am around them. I just went 3 weeks with no smoking yet folded last night when they offered it to me.

Given the above, I have suffered the lasting effects. My physical health as taken it's toll, especially my lungs. I have made great strides with the afflictions of my Mind and Soul yet still have work to do. I didn't realize just how much damage these substances do to your moral compass, I have done things out of my true character that I only feel regret and guilt for. I only realized the depravity of myself since advancing, meditation has brought up colossal sea monsters and sometimes I feel small in comparison to them. I understand that my childhood played a part as well. Lady Agares has really been there for me and reassuring me that I haven't been forsaken.

I do hatha yoga twice a day along with pranayama, meditation, and Ritual's. I think I need to root out the issues more specifically though.

So I guess I just wanted to share a little about myself to my family in Satan and hope that I can get some advice and maybe a working or two.

HAIL ZEUS
HAIL AGARES

just so you know its almost impossible to be "Forsaken" addictions are hardly a reason too be thinking that. I'd write more but I'm a little short on time. try to remove yourself from those situations, or if you like talking to them, just say "please don't offer me cigarettes anymore"

ChaosBringer666 wrote:

just so you know its almost impossible to be "Forsaken" addictions are hardly a reason too be thinking that. I'd write more but I'm a little short on time. try to remove yourself from those situations, or if you like talking to them, just say "please don't offer me cigarettes anymore"

No worries thank you. Yes I came to understand that feeling of isolation from the gods was just my indifference towards myself after coming to terms with my flaws. Satan, Baal Zebul, and Agares are alwasy present.

I can easily not use anything but bastard cigarettes can't quit, I've been smoking for 12 years and can't imagine mornings without a cigarette, or after a heavy lunch.

I quit smoking by switching to vaping.

It's a lot cheaper too.

GoldenxChild1 wrote:

Okay so I really detest admitting flaws in front of my brothers and sisters yet we are a family and this is what we are here for.

I'll make this quick yet detailed. I have been an Zevism since 2017-18 but didn't start meditation until somewhere in 2019 and I lacked consistency. It wasn't until late 2020 that I truly started to get disciplined. Anyhow, during 2018-2019-2020 I was into Cocaine, Methamphetamine, Cannabis, Cigarettes, and I was on Anti-Depressants. It was some of the worst times in my life in Mind, Body and Soul. Only through Satan was I able to get a taste of fresh air; I have been clean from stimulants from half of 2020 until now. As for cannabis I have been clean since around February 2021 until now. The only thing that I still struggle with is cigarettes as funny as that is. I do not buy them anymore but my girls parents are smokers and I always smoke when I am around them. I just went 3 weeks with no smoking yet folded last night when they offered it to me.

Given the above, I have suffered the lasting effects. My physical health as taken it's toll, especially my lungs. I have made great strides with the afflictions of my Mind and Soul yet still have work to do. I didn't realize just how much damage these substances do to your moral compass, I have done things out of my true character that I only feel regret and guilt for. I only realized the depravity of myself since advancing, meditation has brought up colossal sea monsters and sometimes I feel small in comparison to them. I understand that my childhood played a part as well. Lady Agares has really been there for me and reassuring me that I haven't been forsaken.

I do hatha yoga twice a day along with pranayama, meditation, and Ritual's. I think I need to root out the issues more specifically though.

So I guess I just wanted to share a little about myself to my family in Satan and hope that I can get some advice and maybe a working or two.

HAIL ZEUS
HAIL AGARES

Can you be more precise on what has been damaged?

You said psyche and soul, what are you referring to?

What do u mean by :
„ I didn't realize just how much damage these substances do to your moral compass, I have done things out of my true character that I only feel regret and guilt for.“

of the true light wrote:

I quit smoking by switching to vaping.

It's a lot cheaper too.

Or maybe, you could just quit doing that too?

NinRick wrote:

GoldenxChild1 wrote:

Okay so I really detest admitting flaws in front of my brothers and sisters yet we are a family and this is what we are here for.

I'll make this quick yet detailed. I have been an Zevism since 2017-18 but didn't start meditation until somewhere in 2019 and I lacked consistency. It wasn't until late 2020 that I truly started to get disciplined. Anyhow, during 2018-2019-2020 I was into Cocaine, Methamphetamine, Cannabis, Cigarettes, and I was on Anti-Depressants. It was some of the worst times in my life in Mind, Body and Soul. Only through Satan was I able to get a taste of fresh air; I have been clean from stimulants from half of 2020 until now. As for cannabis I have been clean since around February 2021 until now. The only thing that I still struggle with is cigarettes as funny as that is. I do not buy them anymore but my girls parents are smokers and I always smoke when I am around them. I just went 3 weeks with no smoking yet folded last night when they offered it to me.

Given the above, I have suffered the lasting effects. My physical health as taken it's toll, especially my lungs. I have made great strides with the afflictions of my Mind and Soul yet still have work to do. I didn't realize just how much damage these substances do to your moral compass, I have done things out of my true character that I only feel regret and guilt for. I only realized the depravity of myself since advancing, meditation has brought up colossal sea monsters and sometimes I feel small in comparison to them. I understand that my childhood played a part as well. Lady Agares has really been there for me and reassuring me that I haven't been forsaken.

I do hatha yoga twice a day along with pranayama, meditation, and Ritual's. I think I need to root out the issues more specifically though.

So I guess I just wanted to share a little about myself to my family in Satan and hope that I can get some advice and maybe a working or two.

HAIL ZEUS
HAIL AGARES

Can you be more precise on what has been damaged?

You said psyche and soul, what are you referring to?

What do u mean by :
„ I didn't realize just how much damage these substances do to your moral compass, I have done things out of my true character that I only feel regret and guilt for.“

Well aside from any physical ailments my Mind went to dark places. I hurt family and friends emotionally and mentally. I lied and cheated them in more ways than one. The damage I talk of is the perpetual guilt, shame, and regret I feel when I look back on my actions. I don't walk around mopping about it or anything but I can feel it. I can't tell you what chakras may be damaged but I'm assuming the lower ones if I had to guess. I was thinking of using Waunyo on the 25th for Emotional Healing By Lydia.

of the true light wrote:

I quit smoking by switching to vaping.

It's a lot cheaper too.

Yet, it is harmful since any kind of smoke or vapor will dry the lungs. Drying the lungs long term will cause cellular mutation aka cancer. Not to mention your lungs are constantly irritated which means less immune resistance and overall lower functionality compared to another you who is not doing such activity.

Henu the Great wrote:

of the true light wrote:

I quit smoking by switching to vaping.

It's a lot cheaper too.

Yet, it is harmful since any kind of smoke or vapor will dry the lungs. Drying the lungs long-term will cause cellular mutation aka cancer. Not to mention your lungs are constantly irritated which means less immune resistance and overall lower functionality compared to another you who is not doing such activity.

Vaping is less harmful in some ways, but extremely harmful in other ways than normal smoking. It makes the lungs too wet, and keeps water in the lungs causing pleurisy. Depending on the body archetype, the pg and vg in the liquid can cause reactions.

Also vaping is extremely damaging to the heart and circulation system. I did contact the Gods on these matters and vaping is much more harmful than normal smoking on the heart. Stroke is 70% more likely to happen when vaping than normal smoking.

The reaction of the heart to the vaping liquids is still unknown but people are lining up with heart attacks because of the vaping. Palpitations are the earliest symptom, once developed if vaping is not stopped it can lead to death very quick, within months or few years, while smoking normally would not lead to this.

If it is to quit smoking, vaping is ideal. However if it is a replacement, 5 years of vaping will cause more damage to the body than 5 years of normal cigarettes. If you as a person are very addictive to things like these and sensorial pleasures, be warned that quitting vaping is much more harder than normal cigarettes because of the flavors, being cheaper and more available.

Hypnosis and quitting cold turkey. Tampering is a false advertisement for replacement therapy. Best psychiatrists will tell you to quit all at once. But, very important, if you ever been a drug addict or you are in treatment with psychiatric medication, DO NOT do it all at once, but tamper it in a structured way.

NakedPluto wrote:

Henu the Great wrote:

of the true light wrote:

I quit smoking by switching to vaping.

It's a lot cheaper too.

Yet, it is harmful since any kind of smoke or vapor will dry the lungs. Drying the lungs long-term will cause cellular mutation aka cancer. Not to mention your lungs are constantly irritated which means less immune resistance and overall lower functionality compared to another you who is not doing such activity.

Vaping is less harmful in some ways, but extremely harmful in other ways than normal smoking. It makes the lungs too wet, and keeps water in the lungs causing pleurisy. Depending on the body archetype, the pg and vg in the liquid can cause reactions.

Also vaping is extremely damaging to the heart and circulation system. I did contact the Gods on these matters and vaping is much more harmful than normal smoking on the heart. Stroke is 70% more likely to happen when vaping than normal smoking.

The reaction of the heart to the vaping liquids is still unknown but people are lining up with heart attacks because of the vaping. Palpitations are the earliest symptom, once developed if vaping is not stopped it can lead to death very quick, within months or few years, while smoking normally would not lead to this.

If it is to quit smoking, vaping is ideal. However if it is a replacement, 5 years of vaping will cause more damage to the body than 5 years of normal cigarettes. If you as a person are very addictive to things like these and sensorial pleasures, be warned that quitting vaping is much more harder than normal cigarettes because of the flavors, being cheaper and more available.

Hypnosis and quitting cold turkey. Tampering is a false advertisement for replacement therapy. Best psychiatrists will tell you to quit all at once. But, very important, if you ever been a drug addict or you are in treatment with psychiatric medication, DO NOT do it all at once, but tamper it in a structured way.

Well that explains some articles I have read about heart related issues with vaping.

Also, it is tapering, not tampering. :)

Try this book, it helped me with initially quitting. I did, however, start up again many years later, but quitting again the second time was not very difficult.

https://www.docdroid.net/JOBaebt/easy-way-to-stop-smoking-by-allen-carr-pdf#page=109

Henu the Great wrote:

NakedPluto wrote:

Henu the Great wrote:

Yet, it is harmful since any kind of smoke or vapor will dry the lungs. Drying the lungs long-term will cause cellular mutation aka cancer. Not to mention your lungs are constantly irritated which means less immune resistance and overall lower functionality compared to another you who is not doing such activity.

Vaping is less harmful in some ways, but extremely harmful in other ways than normal smoking. It makes the lungs too wet, and keeps water in the lungs causing pleurisy. Depending on the body archetype, the pg and vg in the liquid can cause reactions.

Also vaping is extremely damaging to the heart and circulation system. I did contact the Gods on these matters and vaping is much more harmful than normal smoking on the heart. Stroke is 70% more likely to happen when vaping than normal smoking.

The reaction of the heart to the vaping liquids is still unknown but people are lining up with heart attacks because of the vaping. Palpitations are the earliest symptom, once developed if vaping is not stopped it can lead to death very quick, within months or few years, while smoking normally would not lead to this.

If it is to quit smoking, vaping is ideal. However if it is a replacement, 5 years of vaping will cause more damage to the body than 5 years of normal cigarettes. If you as a person are very addictive to things like these and sensorial pleasures, be warned that quitting vaping is much more harder than normal cigarettes because of the flavors, being cheaper and more available.

Hypnosis and quitting cold turkey. Tampering is a false advertisement for replacement therapy. Best psychiatrists will tell you to quit all at once. But, very important, if you ever been a drug addict or you are in treatment with psychiatric medication, DO NOT do it all at once, but tamper it in a structured way.

Well that explains some articles I have read about heart related issues with vaping.

Also, it is tapering, not tampering. :)

Thank you, and yes, there are a lot of cases and complications but doctors don't usually ask if you vape or make any connection whatsoever with this, so a lot of people are not aware of this problem.

Henu the Great wrote:

of the true light wrote:

I quit smoking by switching to vaping.

It's a lot cheaper too.

Yet, it is harmful since any kind of smoke or vapor will dry the lungs. Drying the lungs long term will cause cellular mutation aka cancer. Not to mention your lungs are constantly irritated which means less immune resistance and overall lower functionality compared to another you who is not doing such activity.

Yes, I know it's still not good for you but there's always food grade H202 if I get sick so I'm not worried.

GoldenxChild1 wrote:

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I agree that vaping probably isn't the best thing for us. It also costs money!

I've been vaping for 4 years as an alternative to cigarettes. I can easily make it 2-3 hours without vaping, so it doesn't affect my meditations. As well, I can attest to the fact that it is much less harmful to our lungs based on personal experience.

Cigarettes contain more than 7,000 chemicals and 69 of these are known carcinogens.

Vape juice (or e-juice) contains between 4 and 6 different chemicals: vegetable glycerin, propylene glycol, nicotine, flavourings and (likely) aspratame and artificial colours. These last two aren't listed because they constitute less than 5% of the product, which means manufacturers aren't legally required to list them in the ingredients.

Vaping is not great for our health but it is far less harmful when compared to cigarette smoking. Quitting altogether is a better option but if you find that this is something you aren't able to do I'd suggest vaping or other nicotine replacement therapies. Bear in mind that vape juices often have much higher concentrations of nicotine than cigarettes do and thus quitting vape products is generally much more difficult.

Another option is hypnosis, which (according to a study) had a 50% success rate compared to nicotine replacement therapy, which had a 15.78% success rate.

I'm very impressed and inspired that you were able to quit those hard drugs!! (Especially meth!) I wish you the best of luck on this venture and always remember that we are very open-minded here. Many of our members have been through similar challenges so never feel ashamed to ask about such things.

NakedPluto wrote:

Henu the Great wrote:

of the true light wrote:

I quit smoking by switching to vaping.

It's a lot cheaper too.

Yet, it is harmful since any kind of smoke or vapor will dry the lungs. Drying the lungs long-term will cause cellular mutation aka cancer. Not to mention your lungs are constantly irritated which means less immune resistance and overall lower functionality compared to another you who is not doing such activity.

Vaping is less harmful in some ways, but extremely harmful in other ways than normal smoking. It makes the lungs too wet, and keeps water in the lungs causing pleurisy. Depending on the body archetype, the pg and vg in the liquid can cause reactions.

Also vaping is extremely damaging to the heart and circulation system. I did contact the Gods on these matters and vaping is much more harmful than normal smoking on the heart. Stroke is 70% more likely to happen when vaping than normal smoking.

The reaction of the heart to the vaping liquids is still unknown but people are lining up with heart attacks because of the vaping. Palpitations are the earliest symptom, once developed if vaping is not stopped it can lead to death very quick, within months or few years, while smoking normally would not lead to this.

If it is to quit smoking, vaping is ideal. However if it is a replacement, 5 years of vaping will cause more damage to the body than 5 years of normal cigarettes. If you as a person are very addictive to things like these and sensorial pleasures, be warned that quitting vaping is much more harder than normal cigarettes because of the flavors, being cheaper and more available.

Hypnosis and quitting cold turkey. Tampering is a false advertisement for replacement therapy. Best psychiatrists will tell you to quit all at once. But, very important, if you ever been a drug addict or you are in treatment with psychiatric medication, DO NOT do it all at once, but tamper it in a structured way.

I know that I have been vaping for 8 years now and had an EKG a few month's back and everything was great.

If I notice anything funny I will definitely give quitting some thought though.

It's just so damn addictive and pleasurable.