Temple of Zeus — The Assembly of the Gods

Regarding Cheating, Relationships

High Priestess Lydia Coventina

High Priestess Lydia Coventina
#1

I’ve seen some bizarre advice here, about trying to “spiritually kill” a person who cheated on them. This is just sick.

Most people are very low spiritually. Most people now, are programmed by tv, give into peer pressure instead of listening to their inner voice, don’t even know themselves, and DO NOT understand higher concepts such as loyalty, fidelity, etc. These are Godly concepts, whereas many people today are certainly not Godly. Most people are on a low level, give in to random impulses, and so on.

You cannot expect spiritually low people to have high virtues and ethics.

As well, many people had christianity forced on them, so they think they need to be monogamous out of “christian commandments”. The world is becoming less christian, so they are reacting against it, and doing whatever they want without realizing what harm they may cause, or not even caring about causing harm, because they are unable to have empathy or understanding.

Further, not everyone is emotional regarding relationships. Some people have a higher concept of love, not everyone does. To some people, they get horny, so they find someone to have sex with, no biggie. That’s their mindset. It’s nothing personal against you, it’s just how they are.

If you’re in a relationship with someone and they cheat on you, understand they are not able to comprehend higher love and devotion, and move on. Remove links to them, detach, heal, find someone more suited for you when the time is right. Getting hurt is a part of life. Pretty much everyone in all of history has been hurt at least once. Learn lessons and move forward with your life.

Something else to keep in mind: just because you are with someone, does not mean they are your soulmate. One member here wrote that being with someone for 1.5 years meant it was true love. This is delusional. Many people stay with someone out of stability, or because they are too afraid to be alone, or for a regular sex life, or because they are settled into their life with their partner.

Everyone in the world is still advancing, don’t expect those who are without to be wise. People need to live many lifetimes to grow and learn and evolve, before you can expect great things from them.

Discussion

Darkntwisteduk
#21

Even when I lived with my ex wife still and had a family I was never under the impression I'd found my soul mate nor did I want to find it. So when she strayed and done one with the kids thinking I'd be crushed instead I was happy to be rid of a shakle. Last I heard she managed to fuck her life up miles away from me all by herself and with no help or malice from me. C**ts get what they are owed in the long run. Or that's how i feel anyway

OhNoItsMookActive Translator
#22
Blitzkreig [JG wrote:

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Without getting into a complicated ethical discussion of these gray areas, I think it is good that you are showing the individual that they have opportunities to escape, but they also need to learn to stand up to abuse. Although their abuser has violated the relationship from one side, a secondary abuse of that is not necessarily right either.

If the person cannot escape their tormentor beforehand, why would they be able to now? Except, now they have set themselves up for an attack by their abuser, if this sexual interaction becomes discovered. So you or they have now made them even more liable to become victimized, and the abuser may feel justified with their abuse, as a way to control the "cheating partner".

So it is not right for you to let your urges get the better of you. You should first help the person escape, as a platonic friend, rather than cheat with them. They need to escape and tell their abuser that the relationship is over. Then they can seek a separate relationship.

It is common for victims to fall into this trap, and it can create a bit of a karmic loop where they act in a secretive manner to avoid pain. Now that this person is potentially linked with you, they can still carry this same behavior, which is the result of their abuse, but still needs to be healed from.

Overall, it is sad, but two wrongs do not make a right. We should not put our reputation on the line, as this can be all we have sometimes. Reputation is one function of Saturn, which should be strong and unbending in the face of programs coming from the other parts of the soul, including emotional problems, even if it is sad. Two wrongs do not make a right; the person needs to be enduring and do their best to resolve the situation the right way.

My gratitude, Blitzkreig. You always possess the insightful knowledge and the stance to convey such, in an orderly, educative manner to any form of inquiry.

I guess it truly would be dangerous for both individuals in the addressed hypothetical circumstances. One wouldn't want to give the abuser a reason to do even worse to what would then be two people. In the end, even the cheater/victim(?) would still need to overcome inner difficulties, and heal from other effects remaining in the heart as a result of such trauma.

I've known of cases where the victim did break up with their abuser in order to be with a kind, supportive friend they had developed romantic affection towards, but that caused the abuser to turn into a stalker, and pursue the victim even more. It often ended with either the victim or the 2nd person hurt, or even dead. The abuser's controlling behavior often continues even after the relationship is over.

These kinds of abusive individuals are often the ones that perform all manner of threats, psychological manipulation, and coercion upon their victim, in order to keep them on a tight leash, even going as far as hurting any other men/women the victim interacts with.

I wonder how the victim of such abuse would discover an opportunity to flee from such a situation, without inevitable repercussions from the unpredictability of their abusive partner's emotional explosiveness. An intensely difficult matter...

Head Guardian Sophiles Phylax
#23
OhNoItsMook wrote:

These kinds of abusive individuals are often the ones that perform all manner of threats, psychological manipulation, and coercion upon their victim, in order to keep them on a tight leash, even going as far as hurting any other men/women the victim interacts with.

I wonder how the victim of such abuse would discover an opportunity to flee from such a situation, without inevitable repercussions from the unpredictability of their abusive partner's emotional explosiveness. An intensely difficult matter...

Some repercussions are bound to happen. The victim needs to be willing to stand up to the other person, as well be brave throughout the journey overall.

In an ideal world, both abuser and victim would be able to heal, but this takes time, even with magic involved. The most direct magical solution would be simply detached the victim, plus using Algiz to shield them from backlash.

Without magic, they would need to rely on the court system, and their support network, including both friends/family, but also therapy and victims' support groups. Rather than fleeing to a new partner, the victim is probably better returning to live with the family.

As bad as it sounds, personal defense is also an area that requires investment. Some people are willing to act like animals to get what they want, and the only thing they will respect is the threat of danger, or other repercussions.