Question Of Love?

I also believe there is no universal good and wrong here (as in many other things) as we are all different.But just as there are people who have the need to sleep with others, there are also people who don't have this need. Talking about myself, it only happened once or twice in my life to truly love someone. When that happen, i honestly did not have the need to have sex with anyone else. I have this thing .. every time i compare others to my lover and i always find mine better :) lol. 
Hail Satan!
Pe 6-dec.-2012, la 14:19, Anand Bon <[ email redacted ] a scris:

Greetings My Dear Family.
Today i was talking to an Dear Friend of mine about love,Covered many things, So the Question is Is There Pure love?My Understanding is that No such thing as a Love in Fairytale Exists i think, Let us Say You are Married and Loyal to your Lover, But once or few times you will definitely Sleep with another Human, It is Human Nature i think, No matter how loyal you are you're very Nature will try to Try it out At least once, So If that is done, The Concept of Pure love will be Destroyed, One lived a Life Without Experiencing something new and that will lead to Un-Satisfaction, This is a Very Complex Thing, Which have got me confused, If one Truly Believes in a Love as in Fairy tale that person will be deemed an Idiot, and When lets say you are in your grave, The Person who have done somethings one Haven't Done will die More Happier, This is a Very Complex,The Complexity left me Strange, Now in Satans Teaching He says I allow one to Follow ones nature kind of Teaching, I see the Wisdom in that, For if One Do not Follow ones Nature, One will be Unhappy and that will breed some loads of Problems, Very Individualistic, this very thing some may agree or Disagree, Also My understanding is that There is NO Universal Right or wrong in this subject, and aagh, Just is there Such a Love Exists at all, I have thought of it Extremely deeply with my limited way of thinking, I even took some of the Gods as an Example to see the answer, But i still cant get an Absolute answer, Is there no Absolute answer in this... :-/

That is Complex, Is there an Guarantee that Lets say You Met someone Better than your Lover, Lets say you want her sexually but your heart belongs to your lover, Is there Guarantee you wont flirt or Bed her? Odd and Uncertain isnt it, I definitely Think you will choose bedding, Come on This Nature UUGHhdusahi

Also I believe Loyalty Comes from Satisfaction, If one isn't satisfied one will seek something Greater, Find Satisfaction One way or another, Loyalty Devotion is kinda linked with Satisfaction in all aspects...oh geez..
From: Anand Bon <anandbon@...
To:
Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2012 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Question Of Love?

  That is Complex, Is there an Guarantee that Lets say You Met someone Better than your Lover, Lets say you want her sexually but your heart belongs to your lover, Is there Guarantee you wont flirt or Bed her? Odd and Uncertain isnt it, I definitely Think you will choose bedding, Come on This Nature UUGHhdusahi

Shit, i accidentally pressed 'send' button. Here is the rest of what i wanted to say:
Also, as long as there are Demons that are 100% monogamous, there have to be humans 100% monogamous as well. We've been created in their imagine and likeness. 
And as HPs Pythia explained in one of her audio sermons, satanic love is different. I mean the love between two dedicated satanists. You get to a much dipper level of intimacy, love, etc. You get to know each other on a much more profound level. 
I personally believe in such love. And you can call me an idiot.. i don't care lol. It's not like when two teenagers are getting together. They have no experience and in most cases they don't even know what they want. But there are persons who have experienced a lot, they know what they want and most importantly they know themselves. In such cases, when they decide to make a commitment, it's different. They do it because they know they fit together and that they can live together, and not because they just met and they think they like each other - i think such a move would be immature and stupid. A reason why i don't like the christian idea about wedding and love is that they are not allowed to have sex together before marriage. They might like each other and blah blah, but if sex doesn't work, they're screwed. And I came to notice that most of the times i had problems with my exs, it was because our sex was not satisfactory. For this reason i believe sex is not important, but very important in a relationship/marriage. And if someone doesn't agree with me here... they're either different [and not at all wrong :-p ] or they haven't experienced this yet.
But again, this can't be for everyone as not everyone is the same. And because of this, i don't feel stupid when i say i believe in this kind of love. Because i know myself and i know what I can do and what i can't. I know i can be 100% devoted to the one i love. And it's not like i need to restraint myself from sleeping with others. For me it's just natural not to do it. I simply don't feel the need. Consequently i don't feel bad about it and when I'll be in the grave (if I'll ever get there) i will be just as happy as one could possibly be. Because i followed my nature :) 
I hope i make sense ^o^

Hail Satan!
Pe 6-dec.-2012, la 14:19, Anand Bon <[ email redacted ] a scris:

Greetings My Dear Family.
Today i was talking to an Dear Friend of mine about love,Covered many things, So the Question is Is There Pure love?My Understanding is that No such thing as a Love in Fairytale Exists i think, Let us Say You are Married and Loyal to your Lover, But once or few times you will definitely Sleep with another Human, It is Human Nature i think, No matter how loyal you are you're very Nature will try to Try it out At least once, So If that is done, The Concept of Pure love will be Destroyed, One lived a Life Without Experiencing something new and that will lead to Un-Satisfaction, This is a Very Complex Thing, Which have got me confused, If one Truly Believes in a Love as in Fairy tale that person will be deemed an Idiot, and When lets say you are in your grave, The Person who have done somethings one Haven't Done will die More Happier, This is a Very Complex,The Complexity left me Strange, Now in Satans Teaching He says I allow one to Follow ones nature kind of Teaching, I see the Wisdom in that, For if One Do not Follow ones Nature, One will be Unhappy and that will breed some loads of Problems, Very Individualistic, this very thing some may agree or Disagree, Also My understanding is that There is NO Universal Right or wrong in this subject, and aagh, Just is there Such a Love Exists at all, I have thought of it Extremely deeply with my limited way of thinking, I even took some of the Gods as an Example to see the answer, But i still cant get an Absolute answer, Is there no Absolute answer in this... :-/

Haha, It all really Depends, So I shouldn't Let others Nature Rule over me, but it all has its certain truths..Being Open Minded the Correct way is sure is Tricky, Simply i must simply Make the Void Attitude and Say Blah blah I caNT HEAR YOU!! haha.

Hahahaha you're funny!
You can find someone who has a similar nature with you :) that way no one's nature has to rule over the other's
Hail Satan!
Pe 6-dec.-2012, la 15:30, Anand Bon <[ email redacted ] a scris:

Haha, It all really Depends, So I shouldn't Let others Nature Rule over me, but it all has its certain truths..Being Open Minded the Correct way is sure is Tricky, Simply i must simply Make the Void Attitude and Say Blah blah I caNT HEAR YOU!! haha.

**similar with 'yours' (with your nature) and not 'you' LoL

Hail Satan!
Pe 6-dec.-2012, la 15:35, Thomas Schweitzer <[ email redacted ] a scris:

Hahahaha you're funny!
You can find someone who has a similar nature with you :) that way no one's nature has to rule over the other's
Hail Satan!
Pe 6-dec.-2012, la 15:30, Anand Bon <[ email redacted ] a scris:

Haha, It all really Depends, So I shouldn't Let others Nature Rule over me, but it all has its certain truths..Being Open Minded the Correct way is sure is Tricky, Simply i must simply Make the Void Attitude and Say Blah blah I caNT HEAR YOU!! haha.

I dunno man, its so wierd, I've thought of it on many variables, Lets say My Wife gets Extermely Fat, and got really ****ed up, my Friend asked me Can i be Loyal and still stick with her, or Bed another Women? I simply Couldnt Answer that. lolz..

It seems like your friends really like to put you to the corner with their questions :) i remember of few other times you said they did that.
When I was talking about this love, it was in the satanic way. Like between two dedicated satanists. Now I know there are non-satanists who last a lifetime together but they were not were i was pointing to. 
We have the true knowledge about how to work magic. We have developed the powers within our mind and soul. We overcame fate. We are supposed to take care of our life and destiny. Here it's included the way we look as well. And given the fact that you two love each other, you'll take care of the way you look. You want to be attractive for the one you love. And this is not because you're scared you're gonna loose him/her otherwise, but because you wanna satisfy him. And in the first place you satisfy yourself. 
I don't want to offend anyone in the groups who might be fatter. But it's very improbable that one will become fat when consistent in meditation and yoga. But if this happens, there are ways to get rid of the extra kilos (see power hypnosis for instance). 
Also, after years of meditations and yoga, your body won't change in the same way the body of those who are without does. Like it won't get old and ugly like it happens with those who are without. This is a fact and the older brothers and sisters in the groups can confirm this. Recently Pythia posed a sermon where she mentioned about the 'grail' and the way it affects us.

Hail Satan!
Pe 6-dec.-2012, la 15:49, Anand Bon <[ email redacted ] a scris:

I dunno man, its so wierd, I've thought of it on many variables, Lets say My Wife gets Extermely Fat, and got really ****ed up, my Friend asked me Can i be Loyal and still stick with her, or Bed another Women? I simply Couldnt Answer that. lolz..

And Thomas I can personally vouch for the changes that Yoga and Meditation does to an older body.Remember H P Pythia used me as an example,and I truly an see myself get younger progressively.Not only is my gray hair starting to get some color again,but last night my wife and I both noticed that I was loosing some wrinkles in my face.And you can also not the fact that I am been married multiple times,and never had a child because of my severe drug use when I was younger,And now at 55 I am finally having a child of my own.So not only is it making me younger,but it has healed the part of my body that allows me to have children.I do attribute it all to Yoga and Power Meditations. Hail Satan
Brian

From: Thomas Schweitzer <thomas_schweitzer66@...
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Question Of Love?

  It seems like your friends really like to put you to the corner with their questions :) i remember of few other times you said they did that.
When I was talking about this love, it was in the satanic way. Like between two dedicated satanists. Now I know there are non-satanists who last a lifetime together but they were not were i was pointing to. 
We have the true knowledge about how to work magic. We have developed the powers within our mind and soul. We overcame fate. We are supposed to take care of our life and destiny. Here it's included the way we look as well. And given the fact that you two love each other, you'll take care of the way you look. You want to be attractive for the one you love. And this is not because you're scared you're gonna loose him/her otherwise, but because you wanna satisfy him. And in the first place you satisfy yourself. 
I don't want to offend anyone in the groups who might be fatter. But it's very improbable that one will become fat when consistent in meditation and yoga. But if this happens, there are ways to get rid of the extra kilos (see power hypnosis for instance). 
Also, after years of meditations and yoga, your body won't change in the same way the body of those who are without does. Like it won't get old and ugly like it happens with those who are without. This is a fact and the older brothers and sisters in the groups can confirm this. Recently Pythia posed a sermon where she mentioned about the 'grail' and the way it affects us.

Hail Satan!
Pe 6-dec.-2012, la 15:49, Anand Bon <[ email redacted ] a scris:

I dunno man, its so wierd, I've thought of it on many variables, Lets say My Wife gets Extermely Fat, and got really ****ed up, my Friend asked me Can i be Loyal and still stick with her, or Bed another Women? I simply Couldnt Answer that. lolz..

Satanic Lover Relationship is Not so Different than an Normal relationship, Being Honest,Respectful,taking it seriously with responsibility is the thing. I thought oh Satanic Lover relationship will be totally different, But No things don't work that way, It is merely an Illusion, Love and relationship is common and varies but wont be completely different,Thats all there is to it, Just whats different with Satanic is with a bit of Magick and Higher understanding thats all, Bout the We Are Free from Destinies Cringy Clingy Ugly Fingers is not quite right,IF your Risen then your free, If you Think You are still free,Pops is taking Care of it for you now you choose it the way you see fit, Think again,Sorry if i seem so rude or Aggressive but Thats the way it isBeing Too Involved in the Astral, The Satanic way is not all that Perfect, Neither Materialism, There has to Be balance, Also One needs Other things as well .(family, Friends, Care,Love whatever). These many Aspects Got to be Balanced out, If one cant, you cant truly be happy, This is my opinion.

The main difference is its permanent and long lasting,as well as being totally open and honest with each other.There truly are differences that I have seen in our Satanic marriage,that I have never experienced in any of my others.There is a genuine caring and consideration,that is in no way faked,but just becomes natural as time goes on in our marriage.   Hail Satan
Brian

From: Anand Bon <anandbon@...
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Question Of Love?

  Satanic Lover Relationship is Not so Different than an Normal relationship, Being Honest,Respectful,taking it seriously with responsibility is the thing. I thought oh Satanic Lover relationship will be totally different, But No things don't work that way, It is merely an Illusion, Love and relationship is common and varies but wont be completely different,Thats all there is to it, Just whats different with Satanic is with a bit of Magick and Higher understanding thats all, Bout the We Are Free from Destinies Cringy Clingy Ugly Fingers is not quite right,IF your Risen then your free, If you Think You are still free,Pops is taking Care of it for you now you choose it the way you see fit, Think again,Sorry if i seem so rude or Aggressive but Thats the way it isBeing Too Involved in the Astral, The Satanic way is not all that Perfect, Neither Materialism, There has to Be balance, Also One needs Other things as well .(family, Friends, Care,Love whatever). These many Aspects Got to be Balanced out, If one cant, you cant truly be happy, This is my opinion.

Haha it takes much more than that to take it as rude or aggressive :)
Two dedicated satanists should well know the importance of balance in everything. There's no question about it. Now, when i say dedicated i don't mean those who just performed the dedication ritual. It takes much more than the actual ritual for a satanist to be 'dedicated'. I think we all agree here. 
And .. Haha. I didn't say a relationship between two dedicated satanists is perfect by nature. It isn't, of course it isn't. But we have more cards in the pocket to make it way better, so to speak. 
But like with everything, spiritual abilities can be used for better or worse too. When someone is immature and lacks the necessary wisdom, will only fuck things up. I know i did and i cannot be the only one :)
But I know they can also be used to make life easier and better and avoid or solve problems. For example one of my ex had a problem with communication. Especially in tensioned situations. He would do anything but talk about the problem. In the beginning i thought it's a matter of time till i gain his trust. But after some time, he was reacting just the same and i started to have questions about it. I thought he simply ignores the importance of discussing the problems or that he still doesn't trust me and alike. Once, after dinner, everyone went upstairs and we were left alone in the kitchen. I felt like it's a good moment to bring this thing up. It went fine in the beginning but then he blocked again. I didn't know what else to do and - as i have the ability to easily find out things about someone by simply taking a bit of his/her energy into myself - i asked him if i can do this. He wasn't sure but finally accepted. In a matter of minutes i started to see why he was acting that way. I found out he had a hang-up since he was a kid. He was taken lightly and often others made fun of him when he was expressing his feelings. This made him refuse and block any attempt of others to get there. I began and told him everything i understood and he was not only amazed but also a bit shocked. He said then that since a long long time he hasn't feel so understood and accepted like he was started to feel from that night. From that day we worked together and step by step eliminated that hang-up he had. When he was not able to express himself, i was helping him using the same technique. Our relationship went not better but extremely better. All these because of me using my ability for the better. And still he was not a satanist. I can only imagine where we could have get if he would have been open spiritually too. 
After some time, even though i was at hundreds km apart, i always felt when he was very happy or when he was having a hard time, without him telling me. 
This is the only relationship i had like this. He was very open to the occult and the powers of the mind and i think this helped here. So when I say things can be more than wonderful, it's not because i read it somewhere or because someone told me. I experienced it.
I'll stop here haha. This email is already huge. I hope you see my point too :)
Hail Satan!
Pe 6-dec.-2012, la 17:53, Anand Bon <[ email redacted ] a scris:

Satanic Lover Relationship is Not so Different than an Normal relationship, Being Honest,Respectful,taking it seriously with responsibility is the thing. I thought oh Satanic Lover relationship will be totally different, But No things don't work that way, It is merely an Illusion, Love and relationship is common and varies but wont be completely different,Thats all there is to it, Just whats different with Satanic is with a bit of Magick and Higher understanding thats all, Bout the We Are Free from Destinies Cringy Clingy Ugly Fingers is not quite right,IF your Risen then your free, If you Think You are still free,Pops is taking Care of it for you now you choose it the way you see fit, Think again,Sorry if i seem so rude or Aggressive but Thats the way it isBeing Too Involved in the Astral, The Satanic way is not all that Perfect, Neither Materialism, There has to Be balance, Also One needs Other things as well .(family, Friends, Care,Love whatever). These many Aspects Got to be Balanced out, If one cant, you cant truly be happy, This is my opinion.

I Agree with you to NO end. You Definitely Hit the Spot, I've had very negative experience of Satanic Relationship, Even now when i speak i feel Hatred Just thinking bout it, Even worse she is a Fellow Satanist and her Actions were Monstrous,Even worse i cannot Curse her since she is a fellow Satanist, But I know deep down She will Definitely Get what she Deserves, Being Satanist Doesnt mean getting off the Hook all the time, In times we get Responsibility for your own actions,I am Planning to do an Standart Ritual Today,Haven't done one for a Long time, And Talk to Pops of this matter Cuz just the idea of it inside is very destructive to me, I have to Vent it out,I am not going to Vent it out on the Group,I will Vent it out by Complaining and Talking to Pops, Like it or not It is necesaary for my wellbeing and i am ok with it, I am sure Pops Understands this as well,I Also Definitely gotta do what Cobra posted about removing influences and Munka and Loads of Other Freeing Meditations, Thank you for sharing your story Thomas. :)

Yes I agree. Monogamy is linked to SATISFACTION in the relationship.

--- In , Anand Bon <anandbon@... wrote:

Also I believe Loyalty Comes from Satisfaction, If one isn't satisfied one will seek something Greater, Find Satisfaction One way or another, Loyalty Devotion is kinda linked with Satisfaction in all aspects...oh geez..


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From: Anand Bon <anandbon@...
To: "" <
Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2012 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Question Of Love?


 
That is Complex, Is there an Guarantee that Lets say You Met someone Better than your Lover, Lets say you want her sexually but your heart belongs to your lover, Is there Guarantee you wont flirt or Bed her? Odd and Uncertain isnt it, I definitely Think you will choose bedding, Come on This Nature UUGHhdusahi

Well i only hope it helped. I wish you best of luck Anand!
Hail Satan!
Pe 7-dec.-2012, la 01:20, Anand Bon <[ email redacted ] a scris:

I Agree with you to NO end. You Definitely Hit the Spot, I've had very negative experience of Satanic Relationship, Even now when i speak i feel Hatred Just thinking bout it, Even worse she is a Fellow Satanist and her Actions were Monstrous,Even worse i cannot Curse her since she is a fellow Satanist, But I know deep down She will Definitely Get what she Deserves, Being Satanist Doesnt mean getting off the Hook all the time, In times we get Responsibility for your own actions,I am Planning to do an Standart Ritual Today,Haven't done one for a Long time, And Talk to Pops of this matter Cuz just the idea of it inside is very destructive to me, I have to Vent it out,I am not going to Vent it out on the Group,I will Vent it out by Complaining and Talking to Pops, Like it or not It is necesaary for my wellbeing and i am ok with it, I am sure Pops Understands this as well,I Also Definitely gotta do what Cobra posted about removing influences and Munka and Loads of Other Freeing Meditations, Thank you for sharing your story Thomas. :)

Yea you just Brought some Hope on my Fairy Tale Romance Dreaming, Maybe it is Possible,One is utmost Devoted to One Another for Eternity and Satisfied for Eternity.If not Eternity till to the Grave.Holding Hands with Wrinky Faces Smiling Toothlessly At Each other, Reminiscing and Hugging is okay as well.

:-P
Yeah as long as it is a two ways street, it will work.

Hail Satan!
Pe 7-dec.-2012, la 04:59, Anand Bon <[ email redacted ] a scris:

Yea you just Brought some Hope on my Fairy Tale Romance Dreaming, Maybe it is Possible,One is utmost Devoted to One Another for Eternity and Satisfied for Eternity.If not Eternity till to the Grave.Holding Hands with Wrinky Faces Smiling Toothlessly At Each other, Reminiscing and Hugging is okay as well. 

I never thought it was real either until Raven and I experienced it together.Now I know it is real.But it is very rare and hard to find.And Thomas is right it HAS to be a two way street.If you are true soul mates,as I said before there is never a question of ever saying goodbye.That is the thing that Raven and I realized first is,you can never say goodbye intentionally.It is a extremely bonding experience,that for us is only getting better everyday we are together.  Hail Satan
Brian

From: Anand Bon <anandbon@...
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Question Of Love?

  Yea you just Brought some Hope on my Fairy Tale Romance Dreaming, Maybe it is Possible,One is utmost Devoted to One Another for Eternity and Satisfied for Eternity.If not Eternity till to the Grave.Holding Hands with Wrinky Faces Smiling Toothlessly At Each other, Reminiscing and Hugging is okay as well.