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People In Our Life: Cases To Avoid

High Priest Zevios Metathronos

High Priest Zevios Metathronos
#1

Over the years in Zevism I have come to understand many things. The man I was before I joined, is nothing compared to who I am today; the Gods and my personal efforts have facilitated so much intense, deep and eternal change, that it's impossible to put in words.

As a Zevist, you are on radically different trajectory than most people in this world. That doesn't mean you have to remain alone. On the contrary, it means you have to have better relations when this is the case, rather than falling into every trap other people will have to experience due to lack of knowledge.

One of the things I have learned over the years is that it is important to surround ourselves with people that treat us well. By well I do not mean "always good". Well does not necessarily mean nothing else but in a respectful manner that is not damaging to us. In life it's very common that most people are surrounded by people that:

Do not appreciate you even when you do a lot of things for them. While a lot is relative, many people are mentally ill to the point they have endless misplaced assumptions about life. We on the other hand might be mentally misplaced and thinking that we owe or must give way much than we should, in order to get something basic out of people. Unappreciative behavior both ways is a major illness in human relationships.

Do not take your dreams seriously - that can undermine your faith in your dreams. If you seek to get better, the messages that try to keep you worthless, must actually become minimized. The job of many people in this world is not for them to become better and to make you better, but to actually make you worse because these people themselves suck. These must be avoided as much as we can, within the confines of reason.

That we abuse and that are abusive. Why do I mention that "we abuse"? While most people tend to talk about their "victim status", the situation is that most people are also becoming active abusers if other people abuse them, and rarely one is constantly on a claimed "victim status". Many people out there who had their asses beat and constantly whine they are "victims", are in an active form of association with other people, that can cause this. The first primary thing being that they are sitting close to people that abuse them. As this raises their defense, they too become abusive towards these people, starting and maintaining a cycle of abuse. That we too, when confronted with negative human beings, will become evil and abusive towards them either in attack or defense. Hang close to abusers for a while, and you will become one.

People that are toxic. Hanging around these types of people, will actually make you toxic too. For example, if you struggle to evade drugs, but you are always around drug addicts, that is a very unwise thing to do. That creates a circle of futility in which we become toxic by correlation.

People that don't help you improve in some way. While these people do not necessarily harm you, they do not also help you become better even in a very small way. This means you are spending idle time with these people.

People with nothing to offer and unwilling to fix that. In most cases, people, when ready to criticize, attack, destroy, or anything of the sort, they are very quick to "provide" this. When it comes to providing a form of value, they are not ready to provide this. People with nothing to offer in spiritual, mental, physical or any other way, are people that will eventually end up taking and siphoning from others. Not good.

Those that bring the worst out of you. There are some people in this world that with their mere presence in your life, can bring out the worst elements of your existence. These people should be avoided at all costs.

Your unlucky stars. As we have human beings with whom we have gracious and proper co-operation, there are people who can literally spell our damnation. That might not necessarily be the case because they are evil or bad people, but it can be because of astrology or other aspects. It's best to stay away from these people in life, or retain a decent distance with them if one cannot evade them.

Those that don't help you self improve*. There are people that help you improve and people that do not help you improve. "Feel Good" might not arrive by all of these people, but evolution for yourself might. A foolish example here is that nobody likes to go to the dentist, but their work can be life saving. Just "feel good" should not be taken as a highest consideration in a relationship. People that plague you with certain types of darkness, can be good stepping stones if you are strong to help you overcome it.

*Specifying the Above Point: The difference between these people and those who are mean to cause ruin, is that these people pose challenges and that you will both evolve as you encounter these, while the upper parasitic categories will not bear any fruit. Do not take what I wrote above as evading "the people that don't make you feel good", because oftentimes, bad people for you can make you "feel good". The question to ask here is what people help you grow (even by pressing your limits or by giving you necessary feedback to grow yourself). If you avoid these people, you are disallowing yourself from receiving proper growth and karmic feedback to grow into the individual you must become. By avoid these types of empowering interactions, you are becoming weak.

Perhaps the number one thing I have lost in my first year in Zevism, were many of my "friends". This happened almost naturally, as the person who seeks to wake up, might have an initial response to take some distance from negative sources in order to examine themselves. That state should not be forever. It should last only so long that one de-clutters.

Eventually, one will have to find others who bring increased value to the life of someone. With renewed vigor and confidence after a point, one will actively try to seek better company, or when that is not present, no company; but there are plenty of non toxic and good people out there to associate with and grow alongside, that must be kept in mind.

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

Discussion

TAHARQALead TranslatorEdited
#2

Thank you HPZM,
Hail Zeus!

#3

There are some things that are not what they seem to be, and we have to make some effort to understand them.

Thank you for this beautiful sermon, High Priest!

Priest - Alexandros Iowno
#4

I had some very low-level friends a lot of time ago, and I cut them off my life in a very harsh manner when I saw that this was degrading to me.

After I developed my abilities, years later, I could also see what they thought of me and their perception, and all of it revealed the danger and low existence of letting people like them in my life.

I also have a few regrets about how I treated some friends in the long past, nothing very bad in particular but maybe I could've been a more good person to them. I was very young so I think it was justified by lack of maturity.

I do not lose sleep over this now, since I take care of this in my process of existence. Yet something like this to a sensitive person, along the way, can make one relive regrets later in life.

A definite attribute of people is an overestimation of their self and capacities where the case isn't on par with reality, and high intelligence people have a definite underestimation of their abilities. I do not agree fully with this, but to what concerns behavioral profiling, this is used as a scale.

If we use this and try to extrapolate this to our self-worth, people and especially here, Zevists, if you are good and a positive person, do not underestimate your value as a being and your worth in regards to relationships.

It goes beyond saying to not become arrogant either over nothing but unrealistic emotional drives, as the world is full of this too. Yet, if you develop your reality with focus, care, and effort, you have to curate the people surrounding you and there must be a resonance in between the quality of people you attract.

#5
Hp. Zevios Metathronos wrote:View source

Those that don't help you self improve*. There are people that help you improve and people that do not help you improve. "Feel Good" might not arrive by all of these people, but evolution for yourself might. A foolish example here is that nobody likes to go to the dentist, but their work can be life saving. Just "feel good" should not be taken as a highest consideration in a relationship. People that plague you with certain types of darkness, can be good stepping stones if you are strong to help you overcome it.

*Specifying the Above Point: The difference between these people and those who are mean to cause ruin, is that these people pose challenges and that you will both evolve as you encounter these, while the upper parasitic categories will not bear any fruit. Do not take what I wrote above as evading "the people that don't make you feel good", because oftentimes, bad people for you can make you "feel good". The question to ask here is what people help you grow (even by pressing your limits or by giving you necessary feedback to grow yourself). If you avoid these people, you are disallowing yourself from receiving proper growth and karmic feedback to grow into the individual you must become. By avoid these types of empowering interactions, you are becoming weak.

Yes! People who "make me feel good" aren't always what's best for me. Their words may be sweet, but too much sugar isn't healthy. In moderation, it's great because who doesn't love sweets from time to time?

It's important to have people around you whom have proven themselves trustworthy and truly love you. Being able to take constructive criticism and being open to feedback from others is vital to growth, something I've struggled with for a long time, for reasons I won't get into. That doesn't mean to just "accept whatever anyone says as the truth" because that can be dangerous too. Being able to consider someone else's words without internalizing them is an art. It takes dedication, discernment and a strong sense of self and other. Some people are just assholes and really do want to bring you down by filling your head with insults and malicious lies, and they have little to offer in terms of constructive criticism that is helpful. Those are the kinds of people you mentioned earlier to avoid at all cost: the toxic ones. Allowing such people room in your head or anywhere else is unwise.

It took me a long time to begin rebuilding trust in myself after years of being told by everyone around me that 'you're too stupid to think for yourself so don't do that. Just accept whatever we tell you about who you are at face value and don't question it.' then proceed to fill my head with all kinds of negative descriptions about myself to take home and internalize. The deprogramming continues, but I've come a long way. I was shut down to receiving ANY opinion or criticism about me at all, from anyone no matter who. This leads to arrogance and psychological growth stagnates in that state.

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that it's important to have people who TRULY do love you, and aren't afraid to tell you things that you need to hear even if they know you won't like it. At times it might make you uncomfortable and might not "feel good", but if what they're reflecting back to you is valid and you can grow from it, it's a gift! It takes a certain degree of maturity to be able to listen to someone who loves you tell you such things. For the longest time I wanted to block it all out. It wasn't until I really started to listen to what the world outside of me and the people in it were trying to tell me about myself via reflection that I really started to grow in certain areas.

Discerning who is and isn't truly toxic can be a challenge, but by making self-respecting choices, committing to growth and taking feedback with discernment, we can mature in ways we never thought possible. It might not be easy or comfortable but it's worth it; and having people in your life not afraid to tell you uncomfortable truth when they see something you don't are a blessing. Just gotta separate them from the bad eggs who truly do just want to see you trip over yourself.

Gerecht_RorHonorary Translator
#6

Golden words as always. Thank you HP for this enlightening Sermon!

#8
Hp. Zevios Metathronos wrote:View source

Eventually, one will have to find others who bring increased value to the life of someone. With renewed vigor and confidence after a point, one will actively try to seek better company, or when that is not present, no company; but there are plenty of non toxic and good people out there to associate with and grow alongside, that must be kept in mind.

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

There will always be someone you can rely on, Satan knows what we as community and individuals need, happy relationships are one of those things and Father Zeus will always provide us with that which we need. Silence is also a must and both of this things require of our efforts as well.

#9

We as Zevism (Or at least i) tend to find blame in ourselves when a relation does not go well, even when that relation was not a positive one. I too have enough experience in that regard and i have learned that it also very important to look at the health of the relation itself, was it a toxic, negative relation? did you benefit anything out of that relation? It is good to see sermons like this one, it helps in understanding and remembering what it is that you need.

The main lesson i got from this sermon is that you become what you associate with, a reoccurring lesson trough ones life.

HellGateActive Translator
#10

We must have a structural overhaul of human society based on Satanic, natural principles, virtues, integrity, and a moral core at the base in order to fix the plague upon humanity. Many children are indoctrinated to behave in a certain way and follow the majority, even if the larger part is corrupted to the base of it, as there is no maturity and mental development present to be independent, much less spiritual development. Lack of meditation goes hand in hand with degeneration of the mind and body. It's no wonder that if people aren't making the commitment to advance, then the people in question cannot think for themselves, control their fate, or have an open mind, and this leads to narrow-mindedness, where one can't accept matters that go against their constructed beliefs, be they bad or not, and there is no logical filtering as a consequence. These people who follow others, down to physical appearance and even mental similarity to others, have no originality and thus are not of any value. Drugs degenerate all bodies even further, until those who do them no longer hold any critical thinking. Take, for example, drug addicts and smokers, especially those who smoke other drugs such as weed. There is a pattern to be observed in any of the ones mentioned.

He who doesn't hold dearly to his own life by applying improvement does not in any way progress, keeps degenerating, and is thus worthless until he meets cold death. Nature does not forgive stagnation. Everyone who is a Zevist must make the effort daily to evolve. If you lack discipline or mental fortitude, then start a strong Nauthiz working with many reps like I have.


Do not in any way make a connection with toxic people, online or not. I have made in the past online acquantancies intentionally in order to test the more degenerated, and the result was the opposite of what was most desired and hoped for. These people do not have any consciousness and can't think for themselves in any way. Let them meet the harsh reality of the world.

#11
Hp. Zevios Metathronos wrote:View source

....

this had me crying like a baby
i'm glad i logged in today despite everything
i saved it, i hope i don't forget
thank you.

DarkspiritLead Translator
#12
Hp. Zevios Metathronos wrote:View source

Eventually, one will have to find others who bring increased value to the life of someone. With renewed vigor and confidence after a point, one will actively try to seek better company, or when that is not present, no company; but there are plenty of non toxic and good people out there to associate with and grow alongside, that must be kept in mind.

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

This is a very important point to keep in mind (choose friends well)...
Not long ago I noticed that some of these "friends" were quite negative elements, and even though I didn't know how much I know now, the separation from these elements came so spontaneously to me that... and there was a moment in which I thought that the problem was me! But then I realized that I was changing, the goals were changing, I was aiming high and those lower and it's natural to detach yourself from certain elements. Some beautiful moments in the past are not worth more than great goals set for the future!

#14
HellGate wrote:View source

We must have a structural overhaul of human society based on Satanic, natural principles, virtues, integrity, and a moral core at the base in order to fix the plague upon humanity. Many children are indoctrinated to behave in a certain way and follow the majority, even if the larger part is corrupted to the base of it, as there is no maturity and mental development present to be independent, much less spiritual development. Lack of meditation goes hand in hand with degeneration of the mind and body. It's no wonder that if people aren't making the commitment to advance, then the people in question cannot think for themselves, control their fate, or have an open mind, and this leads to narrow-mindedness, where one can't accept matters that go against their constructed beliefs, be they bad or not, and there is no logical filtering as a consequence. These people who follow others, down to physical appearance and even mental similarity to others, have no originality and thus are not of any value. Drugs degenerate all bodies even further, until those who do them no longer hold any critical thinking. Take, for example, drug addicts and smokers, especially those who smoke other drugs such as weed. There is a pattern to be observed in any of the ones mentioned.

He who doesn't hold dearly to his own life by applying improvement does not in any way progress, keeps degenerating, and is thus worthless until he meets cold death. Nature does not forgive stagnation. Everyone who is an Zevism must make the effort daily to evolve. If you lack discipline or mental fortitude, then start a strong Nauthiz working with many reps like I have.


Do not in any way make a connection with toxic people, online or not. I have made in the past online acquantancies intentionally in order to test the more degenerated, and the result was the opposite of what was most desired and hoped for. These people do not have any consciousness and can't think for themselves in any way. Let them meet the harsh reality of the world.

#15

I have to isolate myself for a while In order to start developing myself and adopt new healthier habits, now i know the people That i want around or not. Like the old saying "better Alone than in bad company"

#16

This post hits deep. I "lost" many people that I considered "friends" in all these years in my spiritual path. And the more you advance, the more you will naturally detach from these people. I have a question tho... just for deep thoughts. While we should get acquainted more with "healthy" person, doesn't the majority of growth comes from overcome situations with "unhealthy" ones?
To be clear, it's always better having actual friends and sane human beings around you, but I'm asking if in your opinion the growth that comes from bad enviroment have a limit, which then requires a more serene one. Because eventually in our lives we will encounter many people, and unless we live in a bubble we will eventually have a lot of interactions with pointless individuals. And even if we try to grow by overcoming them there's a limit for that?
I have just my experiences and my eyes of course, so I would like to hear differents points of views.

Hp. Zevios Metathronos wrote:View source

Eventually, one will have to find others who bring increased value to the life of someone. With renewed vigor and confidence after a point, one will actively try to seek better company, or when that is not present, no company; but there are plenty of non toxic and good people out there to associate with and grow alongside, that must be kept in mind.

MiniMe3388Edited
#17

Thank you for this sermon, HPZM.

I had a false friend in the past who betrayed and hurt me. I decided to cut myself off from her. It was a good choice.

High Priest Zevios Metathronos
#18
AstralFrog wrote:View source

This post hits deep. I "lost" many people that I considered "friends" in all these years in my spiritual path. And the more you advance, the more you will naturally detach from these people. I have a question tho... just for deep thoughts. While we should get acquainted more with "healthy" person, doesn't the majority of growth comes from overcome situations with "unhealthy" ones?
To be clear, it's always better having actual friends and sane human beings around you, but I'm asking if in your opinion the growth that comes from bad enviroment have a limit, which then requires a more serene one. Because eventually in our lives we will encounter many people, and unless we live in a bubble we will eventually have a lot of interactions with pointless individuals. And even if we try to grow by overcoming them there's a limit for that?
I have just my experiences and my eyes of course, so I would like to hear differents points of views.

I certainly agree with you. The analogy of the toxicity has to be only up to a point. It's true that we grow when we are pressed on our limits, but when they are exceeded and we are driven into permanent pressure from these things, we might as well shrink, not grow.

This post is not about creating a false sense of a good environment filled with fake positivity, but rather, managing negativity.

High Priest Zevios Metathronos
#19
Karnonnos wrote:

I want to give an example of this, concerning an associate of mine. It is important for especially young people here to have hard examples of this. The details are shocking, so I will spoiler it.
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Your post, albeit highly disturbing, is very true.

Many people out there just claim "victim status" however, they actively invite these victim situations upon themselves because in many cases there can be other unresolved issues or even they like it.

Victim status is an addiction for many out there. They enjoy being the "victims". I would write some stories I have seen in my own life, face to face, but I'd rather not, as many members will consider them highly damaging to read. But I have seen quite a few cases of your description.

#20

I literally recognized my father in some points on this list; unfortunately, his natal chart painfully aspects some positions of mine, thereby causing multiple unpleasant things in our interactions throughout life. I tried for a long time to fix this instead of just taking a safe distance.