Temple of Zeus — The Assembly of the Gods

On Astrology Ethics

High Priest Zevios Metathronos

High Priest Zevios Metathronos
#1
Big Dipper wrote:

On the astrology part of the main website it says: "It is important and *ethical* that you do not reveal anything tragic to others you read for". What does that mean? Why cant we tell them?

Because astrology in general has ethics around it, simple as that.

If you see for example, fatality coming, and you tell a person who may die in whatever date 6 months from now, they may get to drinking spree, three months earlier thinking they might die. This is one example.

They may or may not die depending on the accuracy of the prediction. But they may get harmed in other, unforeseen ways, and emotionally also.

The bigger the skill to predict and to see deeply (bestowed by advancement, the Gods, and going deeper into astrology), one's ethical scale also has to raise. Ethics in Zevism are not like the empty things of the enemy. In our side, responsibility is though important, since the Gods care to help us.

Astrologers have to have a moral compass and want to help others do better, not worse. Like doctors and other similar professions.

Another moral thing is to not play uselessly smart. There are astrologers who act close minded and they have no occult knowledge to help other people and/or no major insight besides computational abilities.

In this, knowledge can be a curse, as blessings and damnation may be seen, without the ability for one to be able to act. This can be deadly and very depressing. Astrologers who go very far without spiritual knowledge always somehow lose their lives or minds.

Months ago I was reading online about a US military engaged soldier. He saw in his astrology a tragic accident happening during the time of his deployment in some overseas mission. The accident that would happen would be related to an explosion. He was not a pro, but he saw this coming along the lines.

Eventually, he got blown into an explosion, around the dates where he predicted, and lost half his body motor skills, exactly as the fatalities had predicted. After he ended service, he managed to sit and get deeper in astrology. He found even more solid proof that this was to happen, down to the very minute of the event.

The above is a tragedy and fate has a lot of these, serving everyone and everything fateful events.

If he had spiritual knowledge or was a Zevist, he could have prevented this fatality, or he could find some other way to solve it. Many times, fate can be fully definitive, but occult knowledge and power can help tremendously.

He could have found, for example, a counter aspect, that would act to his protection. However, fate can be serious and damning in many cases. Rarely humans have a choice.

In other words, one has to be good at what one does, or just say the truth that they are learning etc. Haphazardly done, sloopiness, lack of knowledge, and other things, can be very detrimental to astrology.

High level astrology is very serious for everyone involved. Does one do haphazardly or for fast production a neurosurgery? One is a criminal to do this.

One more form of ethics would also be to not use astrology to lie for personal obscene reasons. A horrid example I know here, wanted to have sex with a woman. They tried to lie to her that her astrology was "that of a prostitute" and that it was "necessary for them to engage in this", only because this convulted mind wanted to have sex with her. Unmanly and disgusting. There were of course no such "decided" aspects that certainly meant this.

Gods that deal with astrology also deal with general astrological ethics.

They also have some standards in bestowing major knowledge along these very lines. They expect it will be handled wisely. Astrology is a divine spiritual science.

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

Discussion

Priest - Alexandros Iowno
#2

This is very interesting. In a couple of months lately I've been having so much knowledge given and guided about my natal chart, that if known a couple years ago ... would've made me an egomaniac and so much more unexpected changes in me. I really felt that I was given and unlocked these informations by the Gods.

This is very very interesting. Thank you

#3

i know that the true expert astrologers are spiritual and can do Healing , they can find the true purpose of your life they can know your past origin,the exact time when you will get married and time of death .etc....

for me astrology is complicated i only know the basics because of too many corrupted authors and websites , and i am %10000 sure that the enemy knows perfectly the astrology .

#4
sonnenkraft wrote:

i know that the true expert astrologers are spiritual and can do Healing , they can find the true purpose of your life they can know your past origin,the exact time when you will get married and time of death .etc....

for me astrology is complicated i only know the basics because of too many corrupted authors and websites , and i am %10000 sure that the enemy knows perfectly the astrology .

The basics are on the ToZ. To truly master this (like any spiritual ability) is to advance spiritually and of course to practice this until you become better. The basic you see on the ToZ are only the "material" aspect, what you need to become a pro is to develop your intuition and all the spiritual abilities needed to predict things better.

#5
HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:
Big Dipper wrote:

On the astrology part of the main website it says: "It is important and *ethical* that you do not reveal anything tragic to others you read for". What does that mean? Why cant we tell them?

...

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

And what happens if you follow "Winning move is not to play the game" logic?

Like if this guy you talk about would just refuse deployment overseas, would it still manifest somehow?

Crystallized Mushroom
#6

interesting never thought of that :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea:

#7
HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:
Big Dipper wrote:

There were some things in my chart that would’ve devastated me in the past if I had learned about it, that I’ve learned of previously that I can now channel positively or do something about. Knowing things at the right time are really important. Takes a lot of practice and being able to get through psychic attacks to actually read a chart. I’m much better at it now but mainly with the basics. I think spiritual advancement is the only way really through this.

Tyler Tekton [NG]
#8

when you say many times fate can be fully definitive, you mean there are many times where ones fate cannot be changed much or at all? could you provide a vague example of this, I'm trying to understand.

Novice Priest Karnonnos
#9
HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:
Big Dipper wrote:

On the astrology part of the main website it says: "It is important and *ethical* that you do not reveal anything tragic to others you read for". What does that mean? Why cant we tell them?

Because astrology in general has ethics around it, simple as that.

If you see for example, fatality coming, and you tell a person who may die in whatever date 6 months from now, they may get to drinking spree, three months earlier thinking they might die. This is one example.

They may or may not die depending on the accuracy of the prediction. But they may get harmed in other, unforeseen ways, and emotionally also.

I understand what is meant here and I think anyone who would do this is beyond immoral. With more minor-yet-still-negative-in-nature things though there seems to be a grey area.

Let's say someone has a chronic health problem that they don't understand and want answers. Is naming 6th House planetary placements to such a person immoral? I remember one person I did a reading for who had diabetes most of their life despite being thin was happy to know it was due to Jupiter's influence in 6th, because so many people had accused them of secretly binging in private, being bulimic or whatever ludicrous insults, even a few doctors. It was gratifying for them to know it couldn't really be helped, but at the same time I can maybe see some negative consequences to having this knowledge without spiritual application.

It becomes more complicated with houses of others and problem placements here like Pluto and Saturn in 11th and 7th. I tried to tell people with this to be careful, vigilant and selective when it comes to their peers and lovers. Is that good advice here?

HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

One more form of ethics would also be to not use astrology to lie for personal obscene reasons. A horrid example I know here, wanted to have sex with a woman. They tried to lie to her that her astrology was "that of a prostitute" and that it was "necessary for them to engage in this", only because this convulted mind wanted to have sex with her. Unmanly and disgusting. There were of course no such "decided" aspects that certainly meant this.

That is unbelievably revolting. I guess that underlines why this knowledge optimally has to rest with the wise.

This also underscores the necessity of getting second opinions from trusted sources. Any asshole can skew a reading to say whatever in their best interest.

#10

Knowing Astrology can really suck, I'll be real. I've been studying it for more than 3 years now, and it made me feel a lot of mental limits. Every time I wanna do something, or improve on certain areas, i always think of negative planets of mine, and endless doubts come. I know magic can help, but knowing me, i know i will always be doubtful and negative, thinking that at the end of the day, the planets will manifest exactly like i read them.

#11
BlackJackal wrote:
HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:
Big Dipper wrote:

On the astrology part of the main website it says: "It is important and *ethical* that you do not reveal anything tragic to others you read for". What does that mean? Why cant we tell them?

...

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

And what happens if you follow "Winning move is not to play the game" logic?

Like if this guy you talk about would just refuse deployment overseas, would it still manifest somehow?

id rather live one day as a lion than 100 days as a sheep.

Windstrider666
#12

I had always thought that by knowing fate one would then be able to take the steps to avoid dangerous or otherwise potentially harmful events from taking place or mitigating the damage. Especially for Zevism, one could protect themselves more thoroughly than the average person. Wouldn't knowing in this case be more beneficial than not knowing?

#13

OOPS. I did a guys natal chart and their spouse's chart and the spouse has pluto crossing their DC in a few years at nearly the same time of this guys first saturn return. I stressed that im not a proffesional and that a saturn return isn't guaranteed to be awful, but to watch out just in case. The guy also had pluto crossing their asc in a few years if not now. I get the ethics thing now though. :D

#14
BlackJackal wrote:
HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:
Big Dipper wrote:

On the astrology part of the main website it says: "It is important and *ethical* that you do not reveal anything tragic to others you read for". What does that mean? Why cant we tell them?

...

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

And what happens if you follow "Winning move is not to play the game" logic?

Like if this guy you talk about would just refuse deployment overseas, would it still manifest somehow?

This is the same question I was thinking.

What could this guy have done so the misfortune wouldn't happen?

Henu the GreatActive Helper
#15
WiseDragon wrote:

Knowing Astrology can really suck, I'll be real. I've been studying it for more than 3 years now, and it made me feel a lot of mental limits. Every time I wanna do something, or improve on certain areas, i always think of negative planets of mine, and endless doubts come. I know magic can help, but knowing me, i know i will always be doubtful and negative, thinking that at the end of the day, the planets will manifest exactly like i read them.

Painful to read...

As you know we have the tools, but still you insist on suffering the natal chart.

Come the fuck on! Lift your limits, you can do it!

#16

Astrology is of fundamental importance for life, just like medicine.

Ol argedco luciftiasActive Helper
#17

Like when a doctor tells someone they will die in 3 months. And exactly 3 months later, the person died. But the doctor made a mistake with the diagnosis, and the person really should have lived for many more years. But they died because their body was convinced that it had to die at that moment, so it did. This has happened a bunch of times.

High Priest Zevios Metathronos
#18
BlackJackal wrote:
HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:
Big Dipper wrote:

On the astrology part of the main website it says: "It is important and *ethical* that you do not reveal anything tragic to others you read for". What does that mean? Why cant we tell them?

...

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

And what happens if you follow "Winning move is not to play the game" logic?

Like if this guy you talk about would just refuse deployment overseas, would it still manifest somehow?

He would decrease his chances, however, when we talk about "Fate", in this case and in the case of many people, there can be no "Option".

The less the power and freedom one has, the more likely for fate to create such situation. In this case one should also look in for windows of opportunity to save themselves, which is also possible.

Every person would have to work this differently here. Because everyone has different abilities. As I was reading this poor fellows story, it was because he didn't know where to look for protection, or because he simply did not refuse.

Protection and cleaning may have saved his life, too. Or at least minimize the damage to where it was not permanent.

The ignorance of the enemy is costing people worldwide, many heavy prices.

High Priest Zevios Metathronos
#19
WiseDragon wrote:

Knowing Astrology can really suck, I'll be real. I've been studying it for more than 3 years now, and it made me feel a lot of mental limits. Every time I wanna do something, or improve on certain areas, i always think of negative planets of mine, and endless doubts come. I know magic can help, but knowing me, i know i will always be doubtful and negative, thinking that at the end of the day, the planets will manifest exactly like i read them.

This is the wrong way to look at it.

As one does a forecast for the weather, and one sees X weather, the solution in most cases, is to use an umbrella, not to stay in at total fear of the rain. If it is a powerful storm, then maybe.

If it is a hurricane, in which case one has to duck and wait for the better time.

The Gods give us the means to be able to overcome things. You can overcome these things. Meditation, protection, healing, and so forth.

#20
WiseDragon wrote:

Knowing Astrology can really suck, I'll be real. I've been studying it for more than 3 years now, and it made me feel a lot of mental limits. Every time I wanna do something, or improve on certain areas, i always think of negative planets of mine, and endless doubts come. I know magic can help, but knowing me, i know i will always be doubtful and negative, thinking that at the end of the day, the planets will manifest exactly like i read them.

I had quite a long period where I was just stuck and suffering with really no way out. Those kinds of things happen and I even saw them in astrology, but there was nothing to do about them really. The only way to stop these things is to know about them way beforehand and amass protective energy against it. If you only notice it once it is already happening, many times you cant really stop it and just have to wait for it to pass. It can suck a lot, I know it first-hand.

You can definitely prevent it as long as you plan long enough ahead into the future. So even if there are some things right now that are annoying, I would recommend that you try to gear up for the future planets as much as you can to take advantage of the good ones and shield yourself from the bad ones. If you have quite bad things coming in I would even say to focus most of your magick time every day on establishing protection from that ahead of time.