Numerology of 180

18 is a very good number for health and protection. It relates to starting things from the self (1) and making them permanent/eternal (8).

Meteor wrote:

fuoco blu 666 wrote:

Meteor wrote:

I've heard 18 is a pretty good number generally, but what about 180? For example is you did 180 reps of a rune or mantra, or did a working for 180 days, would that be good? Does the number have any notable properties in particular?

I don't really know much about numerology or where to find accurate information about it, but I'm very curious about it, so feel free to discuss the numerology of other numbers as well in this thread.

18 is a Saturn and permanence number, a 0 indicates the material in numerology.
The qualities of 18 become for perfection and material permanence with 180.
180 is a powerful number of material permanence.

I thought Saturn was generally bad and that 18 is generally good, so I'm a bit surprised to hear that 18 is a Saturn number.
That said, perfection and material permanence sound excellent for things like workings, so I'm sure it's still good then.

Saturn in my chart makes me strong.
It gives me the strength to keep going.
Saturn is a good teacher, he just teaches you the hard way if you do not listen.

I love Saturn.

The meaning of 180 is rooted in Sacred Geometry: 180 is the sum of the angles of a Triangle, which is the simplest - thus most archetypal linear shape and the building block of the universe.
Energy manifets in trinities due to Triangle being this building block or blueprint. (A-U-M, the 3 Gunas, 3 nadis, etc.)

18(0) also relatesto the unification of Shiva and Shakti, two 9 joined together.

If you arrange 180 into a Fibanocci sequence, you will get the sum angles of the most important geometrical shapes and forms.

Savitar wrote:

The meaning of 180 is rooted in Sacred Geometry: 180 is the sum of the angles of a Triangle, which is the simplest - thus most archetypal linear shape and the building block of the universe.
Energy manifets in trinities due to Triangle being this building block or blueprint. (A-U-M, the 3 Gunas, 3 nadis, etc.)

18(0) also relatesto the unification of Shiva and Shakti, two 9 joined together.

If you arrange 180 into a Fibanocci sequence, you will get the sum angles of the most important geometrical shapes and forms.

Friend, thankfully your back i thought id never see you again. How have you been and where were you lol.

Savitar wrote:

The meaning of 180 is rooted in Sacred Geometry: 180 is the sum of the angles of a Triangle, which is the simplest - thus most archetypal linear shape and the building block of the universe.
Energy manifets in trinities due to Triangle being this building block or blueprint. (A-U-M, the 3 Gunas, 3 nadis, etc.)

18(0) also relatesto the unification of Shiva and Shakti, two 9 joined together.

If you arrange 180 into a Fibanocci sequence, you will get the sum angles of the most important geometrical shapes and forms.

Btw friend i wanted to ask you a question about Prana and Apana ,i think you would know about it probably. In the Vijnana Bhairava Tantra in the first meditation it says you need to focus on the Bindu (Pineal Gland) and the Solar Chakara at the same time and as you breathe in and out feel the prana and apana moving between them.

My question is when you inhale does the prana go down as a current (Bindu to Solar) or rises up as a current (Solar to Bindu). And what about Apana, i assume it moves opposite to Prana.

Jack wrote:

Savitar wrote:

The meaning of 180 is rooted in Sacred Geometry: 180 is the sum of the angles of a Triangle, which is the simplest - thus most archetypal linear shape and the building block of the universe.
Energy manifets in trinities due to Triangle being this building block or blueprint. (A-U-M, the 3 Gunas, 3 nadis, etc.)

18(0) also relatesto the unification of Shiva and Shakti, two 9 joined together.

If you arrange 180 into a Fibanocci sequence, you will get the sum angles of the most important geometrical shapes and forms.

Btw friend i wanted to ask you a question about Prana and Apana ,i think you would know about it probably. In the Vijnana Bhairava Tantra in the first meditation it says you need to focus on the Bindu (Pineal Gland) and the Solar Chakara at the same time and as you breathe in and out feel the prana and apana moving between them.

My question is when you inhale does the prana go down as a current (Bindu to Solar) or rises up as a current (Solar to Bindu). And what about Apana, i assume it moves opposite to Prana.

Hi, It’s good to be back. : ) I was busy with mundane chores and advancing, but never truly left: I logged on occasionally, but It was easier to not get involved at all, than participate only a little. I’m sort of a 100% or 0% guy.
I will do my best to participate and contribute by sharing whatever I know and some other things.

As for the meditation, I never read or even heard about this Tantra but tried to do some research on it: Haven’t found the meditation you mentioned. ( I’ve found 2-3 Tantras with the same or similar spelling, all of them are ~70 pages long) Could you copy the description of meditation or link of the pdf (amd page number) please?

Until then, my assumption is that you have to reverse the natural flow of the vayus: Normally Inhalation (Rechaka) correlates with prana and upward movement while Exhalation (Puraka) is linked with Apana and a descending motion.
Now many Trantric practices reverse this original flow to stimulate the Kundalini: Focusing on Apana and Downward movement during Inhalation, Meditating on ascending yorana during Exhalation
(By reversing) the direction of Prana and Apana, they will meet and create Tapa - Psychic Heat)

Another Tantric meditation, that comes to mind is when you Inhale the Fiery energy of the Root Chakra and Exhale the Soothing Lunar energies of the Crown back to the Root Chakra - mentally vibrating Haum during inhale and Sauh when exhaling.
(The element of mixing energies of opposite qualities are constant).

I don’t want to misguide you, so please share the exact meditation.

Hope I was of help and looking forward to being more active 8-)
Have a good day!

Savitar wrote:

Jack wrote:

Savitar wrote:

The meaning of 180 is rooted in Sacred Geometry: 180 is the sum of the angles of a Triangle, which is the simplest - thus most archetypal linear shape and the building block of the universe.
Energy manifets in trinities due to Triangle being this building block or blueprint. (A-U-M, the 3 Gunas, 3 nadis, etc.)

18(0) also relatesto the unification of Shiva and Shakti, two 9 joined together.

If you arrange 180 into a Fibanocci sequence, you will get the sum angles of the most important geometrical shapes and forms.

Btw friend i wanted to ask you a question about Prana and Apana ,i think you would know about it probably. In the Vijnana Bhairava Tantra in the first meditation it says you need to focus on the Bindu (Pineal Gland) and the Solar Chakara at the same time and as you breathe in and out feel the prana and apana moving between them.

My question is when you inhale does the prana go down as a current (Bindu to Solar) or rises up as a current (Solar to Bindu). And what about Apana, i assume it moves opposite to Prana.

Hi, It’s good to be back. : ) I was busy with mundane chores and advancing, but never truly left: I logged on occasionally, but It was easier to not get involved at all, than participate only a little. I’m sort of a 100% or 0% guy.
I will do my best to participate and contribute by sharing whatever I know and some other things.

As for the meditation, I never read or even heard about this Tantra but tried to do some research on it: Haven’t found the meditation you mentioned. ( I’ve found 2-3 Tantras with the same or similar spelling, all of them are ~70 pages long) Could you copy the description of meditation or link of the pdf (amd page number) please?

Until then, my assumption is that you have to reverse the natural flow of the vayus: Normally Inhalation (Rechaka) correlates with prana and upward movement while Exhalation (Puraka) is linked with Apana and a descending motion.
Now many Trantric practices reverse this original flow to stimulate the Kundalini: Focusing on Apana and Downward movement during Inhalation, Meditating on ascending yorana during Exhalation
(By reversing) the direction of Prana and Apana, they will meet and create Tapa - Psychic Heat)

Another Tantric meditation, that comes to mind is when you Inhale the Fiery energy of the Root Chakra and Exhale the Soothing Lunar energies of the Crown back to the Root Chakra - mentally vibrating Haum during inhale and Sauh when exhaling.
(The element of mixing energies of opposite qualities are constant).

I don’t want to misguide you, so please share the exact meditation.

Hope I was of help and looking forward to being more active 8-)
Have a good day!

When reversed apana and prana meet in the solar plexus with samana, right? This seems similar to how the elixirs behave, in a way, yet different in another way.

Savitar wrote:

Jack wrote:

Savitar wrote:

The meaning of 180 is rooted in Sacred Geometry: 180 is the sum of the angles of a Triangle, which is the simplest - thus most archetypal linear shape and the building block of the universe.
Energy manifets in trinities due to Triangle being this building block or blueprint. (A-U-M, the 3 Gunas, 3 nadis, etc.)

18(0) also relatesto the unification of Shiva and Shakti, two 9 joined together.

If you arrange 180 into a Fibanocci sequence, you will get the sum angles of the most important geometrical shapes and forms.

Btw friend i wanted to ask you a question about Prana and Apana ,i think you would know about it probably. In the Vijnana Bhairava Tantra in the first meditation it says you need to focus on the Bindu (Pineal Gland) and the Solar Chakara at the same time and as you breathe in and out feel the prana and apana moving between them.

My question is when you inhale does the prana go down as a current (Bindu to Solar) or rises up as a current (Solar to Bindu). And what about Apana, i assume it moves opposite to Prana.

Hi, It’s good to be back. : ) I was busy with mundane chores and advancing, but never truly left: I logged on occasionally, but It was easier to not get involved at all, than participate only a little. I’m sort of a 100% or 0% guy.
I will do my best to participate and contribute by sharing whatever I know and some other things.

As for the meditation, I never read or even heard about this Tantra but tried to do some research on it: Haven’t found the meditation you mentioned. ( I’ve found 2-3 Tantras with the same or similar spelling, all of them are ~70 pages long) Could you copy the description of meditation or link of the pdf (amd page number) please?

Until then, my assumption is that you have to reverse the natural flow of the vayus: Normally Inhalation (Rechaka) correlates with prana and upward movement while Exhalation (Puraka) is linked with Apana and a descending motion.
Now many Trantric practices reverse this original flow to stimulate the Kundalini: Focusing on Apana and Downward movement during Inhalation, Meditating on ascending yorana during Exhalation
(By reversing) the direction of Prana and Apana, they will meet and create Tapa - Psychic Heat)

Another Tantric meditation, that comes to mind is when you Inhale the Fiery energy of the Root Chakra and Exhale the Soothing Lunar energies of the Crown back to the Root Chakra - mentally vibrating Haum during inhale and Sauh when exhaling.
(The element of mixing energies of opposite qualities are constant).

I don’t want to misguide you, so please share the exact meditation.

Hope I was of help and looking forward to being more active 8-)
Have a good day!

Well i can't copy the text but i can post the screenshots here,

Meteor wrote:

NinRick wrote:

Meteor wrote:

I thought Saturn was generally bad and that 18 is generally good, so I'm a bit surprised to hear that 18 is a Saturn number.
That said, perfection and material permanence sound excellent for things like workings, so I'm sure it's still good then.

Saturn in my chart makes me strong.
It gives me the strength to keep going.
Saturn is a good teacher, he just teaches you the hard way if you do not listen.

I love Saturn.

My Saturn placement has a negative description on the ToZ astrology page, but is completely cancelled out by other things in my chart.
I used to think of it as holding me back from my full potential. But now that I look at it again, if it weren't for the Saturn placement, I would have quite an unbalanced personality. I realise now that all it really does is make me think a bit more before I act, which is really for the best in my case, since my convictions and emotions can be rather extreme sometimes.

Maybe Saturn isn't so bad after all. My initial judgement may have been a bit harsh and short-sighted.
I still think Saturn is a bit scary, but maybe he's just misunderstood.
It's people talking about stuff like "obliterating their Saturn" that made me assume it was always a bad thing.

„I think Saturn is a bit scary, but maybe he‘s just misunderstood“ lmao, I saw you looking sad on the ground when you said the first part.. and cheering up and smiling in the second part xD damn my imagination again geez.

Unbalanced, extreme emotions.. huh?
I get EXCITED really fast, it’s like an explosion of passion with me sometimes, when I am like that I think that I can take on the entire world and that everything will workout perfectly as planned xD
When I am like that, I do not think anymore, I just jump into action.

I think this is to my very strong Uranus tho.

I have no income as I am attending to university, one day I thought it would be the best thing ever to have a car. 4 days later, within the same week, I spent 10k on a car, got it insured and everything you need to drive it ._.

Other people search and think for weeks. Which is probably wiser.

Jack wrote:

Savitar wrote:

Jack wrote:

Btw friend i wanted to ask you a question about Prana and Apana ,i think you would know about it probably. In the Vijnana Bhairava Tantra in the first meditation it says you need to focus on the Bindu (Pineal Gland) and the Solar Chakara at the same time and as you breathe in and out feel the prana and apana moving between them.

My question is when you inhale does the prana go down as a current (Bindu to Solar) or rises up as a current (Solar to Bindu). And what about Apana, i assume it moves opposite to Prana.

Hi, It’s good to be back. : ) I was busy with mundane chores and advancing, but never truly left: I logged on occasionally, but It was easier to not get involved at all, than participate only a little. I’m sort of a 100% or 0% guy.
I will do my best to participate and contribute by sharing whatever I know and some other things.

As for the meditation, I never read or even heard about this Tantra but tried to do some research on it: Haven’t found the meditation you mentioned. ( I’ve found 2-3 Tantras with the same or similar spelling, all of them are ~70 pages long) Could you copy the description of meditation or link of the pdf (amd page number) please?

Until then, my assumption is that you have to reverse the natural flow of the vayus: Normally Inhalation (Rechaka) correlates with prana and upward movement while Exhalation (Puraka) is linked with Apana and a descending motion.
Now many Trantric practices reverse this original flow to stimulate the Kundalini: Focusing on Apana and Downward movement during Inhalation, Meditating on ascending yorana during Exhalation
(By reversing) the direction of Prana and Apana, they will meet and create Tapa - Psychic Heat)

Another Tantric meditation, that comes to mind is when you Inhale the Fiery energy of the Root Chakra and Exhale the Soothing Lunar energies of the Crown back to the Root Chakra - mentally vibrating Haum during inhale and Sauh when exhaling.
(The element of mixing energies of opposite qualities are constant).

I don’t want to misguide you, so please share the exact meditation.

Hope I was of help and looking forward to being more active 8-)
Have a good day!

Well i can't copy the text but i can post the screenshots here,

Dude I can feel the point behind your head, and also the point around behind your 2nd chakra..
I can rush energy out of it, it feels like energy is rushing out of it in every direction, even so far as to my finger tips :o

I did some experiments, and when I do that, my pupils get really big, and my heart rate and blood pressure shoot through the roof, and it is hard to do so, as if I would do heavy lifting or running. And it is easier to do then when I am laying.

What the fuck is this? :o

Jack wrote:

Savitar wrote:

Jack wrote:

Btw friend i wanted to ask you a question about Prana and Apana ,i think you would know about it probably. In the Vijnana Bhairava Tantra in the first meditation it says you need to focus on the Bindu (Pineal Gland) and the Solar Chakara at the same time and as you breathe in and out feel the prana and apana moving between them.

My question is when you inhale does the prana go down as a current (Bindu to Solar) or rises up as a current (Solar to Bindu). And what about Apana, i assume it moves opposite to Prana.

Hi, It’s good to be back. : ) I was busy with mundane chores and advancing, but never truly left: I logged on occasionally, but It was easier to not get involved at all, than participate only a little. I’m sort of a 100% or 0% guy.
I will do my best to participate and contribute by sharing whatever I know and some other things.

As for the meditation, I never read or even heard about this Tantra but tried to do some research on it: Haven’t found the meditation you mentioned. ( I’ve found 2-3 Tantras with the same or similar spelling, all of them are ~70 pages long) Could you copy the description of meditation or link of the pdf (amd page number) please?

Until then, my assumption is that you have to reverse the natural flow of the vayus: Normally Inhalation (Rechaka) correlates with prana and upward movement while Exhalation (Puraka) is linked with Apana and a descending motion.
Now many Trantric practices reverse this original flow to stimulate the Kundalini: Focusing on Apana and Downward movement during Inhalation, Meditating on ascending yorana during Exhalation
(By reversing) the direction of Prana and Apana, they will meet and create Tapa - Psychic Heat)

Another Tantric meditation, that comes to mind is when you Inhale the Fiery energy of the Root Chakra and Exhale the Soothing Lunar energies of the Crown back to the Root Chakra - mentally vibrating Haum during inhale and Sauh when exhaling.
(The element of mixing energies of opposite qualities are constant).

I don’t want to misguide you, so please share the exact meditation.

Hope I was of help and looking forward to being more active 8-)
Have a good day!

Well i can't copy the text but i can post the screenshots here,

Whskskfbsksbdidbdke

Generating points of prana!!?!

Wtf?!?

Wait what? XD

I am shooting prana out of this point? Like wait what?! xD

Nice :DD thanks for sharing that Jack, so this is also possible with the point on the head right?

Jack wrote:

Well i can't copy the text but i can post the screenshots here,

Visarga Bindu does not refers specifically to the pineal gland. (Which is either mentioned as Soma or Indu Chakra). Visarga Bindu is the complex “lunar system” that contains the Ajna, Pineal and Crown as well.

The text mentions, that no breathing exercise is involved, and the meditation is about realizing that prana and apana are of the same source and you can reunite them by completating on this truth.

Try the following:
1.Draw your attention on the Solar Chakra. Meditate on it as the centre from which Apana descends down to the Root Chakra in the form of red energy. Immerse yourself in the heavy, purifying apanic energy. Hold this image for a certain period (half minute)
2. Draw your attention on the Ajna Chakra. Meditate on it as the centre of Prana Vayu, from which it descends down to the Solar Chakra as a Golden-White energy. Immerse yourself in the invigorating, uplifting pranic energy.
3. Now concentrate on the above at the same time and hold it in your centre of attention. Feel these two opposing energies at the same time. As your meditation deepens, your consciousness penetrates into the deeper layers of pranic and apanic energies, amd on this deeper level their underlying energy is on and the same, undovided, unified.
4. Let this unified power naturally draw your focus upwards onto the Visarga Bindu, the Lunar region: The 6th, Ajna and the Crown. (if It’s more convenient, make the Pineal or the Crown to sole object of your meditation)
5. The unified prana-apanic energy in the lunar region secretes the amrita, the nectar of immortality.

Use this text more as an added feature or principle, than an exact meditation. You could also apply these principles satanic power meditations, such as Lucifers Grail, or King & Queen.

Hope I was of help, take care!

Stormblood wrote:

When reversed apana and prana meet in the solar plexus with samana, right? This seems similar to how the elixirs behave, in a way, yet different in another way.

That’s indeed a very good observation. Samana unfifies and equalizes Prana and Apana in the same way how the neutral energy raised with Magnum Opus I. connects the female and male elixirs of Magnum. opus II. and III.

Forgot to add: You can also apply the Laya method of reversing the process of manifestation back to the original source and meditate there.:

1. Focus on Your Upper Lunar Region (Crown-Pineal, Ajna). Visualise Your consciousness with Shakti-energy as a Pure White Sphere, like the Full Moon. It is very stable, calm and static in nature.
2. Now visualize the separation of Consciousness and shakti-energy as a golden-white energy emenating from this sphere, it beam flows down all the way to the Solar Chakra. Hold Your concentration here for a period.
3. Visualize the separation of Prana and Apana: A heavy, deep red ray emenates from the Solar Chakra as a laser beam all the way down to the Root Chakra. Hold your concentration here for a certain period and get a feel of the heavy and raw apanic energy.

4. Meditate on your whole being and the whole process of this unfoldment from the Lunar region all the way down to the root. The two centre of your concentration should be the third and sixth chakras.
5. Apply Root Lock and focus on the ascension of Apana from the Root to the Third Chakra. Visualize how the deep red and dense apanic energy dissolves into and unifies with the Solar Chakra.
6. Apply Uddiyana Bandha and meditate on the ascending pranic energy, flowing and dissolving into the Ajna Chakra. Pranic energy on this level is very refined and bright.
7. This refined white light ascends further and reunites with the pure white Lunar Sphere.
8. Amrita is secreted from this Sphere and immersses your whole being in the sweet nectar of immortality.

Meteor wrote:

NinRick wrote:

Meteor wrote:

My Saturn placement has a negative description on the ToZ astrology page, but is completely cancelled out by other things in my chart.
I used to think of it as holding me back from my full potential. But now that I look at it again, if it weren't for the Saturn placement, I would have quite an unbalanced personality. I realise now that all it really does is make me think a bit more before I act, which is really for the best in my case, since my convictions and emotions can be rather extreme sometimes.

Maybe Saturn isn't so bad after all. My initial judgement may have been a bit harsh and short-sighted.
I still think Saturn is a bit scary, but maybe he's just misunderstood.
It's people talking about stuff like "obliterating their Saturn" that made me assume it was always a bad thing.

„I think Saturn is a bit scary, but maybe he‘s just misunderstood“ lmao, I saw you looking sad on the ground when you said the first part.. and cheering up and smiling in the second part xD damn my imagination again geez.

Are my words so expressive that they make you see things, or do you just have an active imagination? For what it's worth, I do think your imagination makes sense.

Unbalanced, extreme emotions.. huh?
I get EXCITED really fast, it’s like an explosion of passion with me sometimes, when I am like that I think that I can take on the entire world and that everything will workout perfectly as planned xD
When I am like that, I do not think anymore, I just jump into action.

I was temporarily like that when I got the idea that I should stop doubting myself, because I noticed my energy levels seemed to increase rapidly when I removed all subconscious doubts I had about anything, perhaps due to energy being able to flow more freely.
The recklessness that ensued really got out of hand, though.

My conclusion is that when I've already made up my mind on something then I shouldn't doubt myself so I can do it properly, but other than that it's probably best for me to apply more scrutiny before going all out.

I have to find a healthy middle ground where my doubts don't sap too much of my energy, but I also don't lose myself to overconfidence and having more energy than my mind or body can handle. I'm sure it'll get better as I continue cleansing 2-4 times daily, though. I've only been at it for like a year now, and I feel like I can already handle more energy than like a month ago without getting overwhelmed. Perhaps in time I won't have to hold back at all and a good intuition will protect me from bad decisions.

I have no income as I am attending to university, one day I thought it would be the best thing ever to have a car. 4 days later, within the same week, I spent 10k on a car, got it insured and everything you need to drive it ._.

Other people search and think for weeks. Which is probably wiser.

On the bright side, you have a car now!

I think it is a mix of things? But thanks to my strong Neptune, I do have a pretty vivid imagination. Also good that I have so many earth planets in my soul, or else I would just sit and dream all day about things, rather than doing anything.
Idk with you it comes on it‘s own, this has probably to do with Astrology? I think even online you can see specific tendencies, which are also supported by astrological synastry aspects. Well this is at least what I believe and I have experienced so far.
Maybe we do have a Neptune/Venus aspect? If this would explain this xD but this isn’t really of importance.

Yes don’t doubt yourself, it isn’t health at all, also it is bad for spells.

„ The recklessness that ensued really got out of hand, though.“
*Is about to do something reckless*
*Enemies in front*
Everybody: „Meteor, NO!! D:“
*Meteor charges to the enemy full steam and screams*
Meteor: „METEOR YEEESSS! >:D“

Okay I have to stop with this now.

While you have to hold back, energetically speaking, I try to give it all. I also focus during the day on my chakras and raise energies. Which is probably not good, but I will see what happens.

You clean yourself up to 4 times a day?
You make me look bad now >_<
I do it 2 times, 1 time at work in the sun light (which is the best feeling ever!) and then in the night after the Ritual. But not gonna lie, it is way easier and it feels way better to use the Sun.

Now something different. This is not your first account is it? Because your development is way too advanced for a person who joined in 2020..

And if you really joined then, I am mad at you, because you don’t share your cheat code with me!
*grabs and shakes*
I thought we were friends! >.<

Btw I like it very much to see that you take this path as serious as you do now. Many people could learn from you lol.
Keep going strong! Or else one day I will leave you far behind, my eternal rival! >:D

NinRick wrote:

You clean yourself up to 4 times a day?
You make me look bad now >_<
I do it 2 times, 1 time at work in the sun light (which is the best feeling ever!) and then in the night after the Ritual. But not gonna lie, it is way easier and it feels way better to use the Sun.

Cleaning yourself after you've been in contact with other people, especially for long amounts of time, is very useful too and should ideally be done, as you should also do it before any meditation, spell and Ritual. This way any dross you pick up from others (and trust me you do pick up a lot until your aura becomes powerful enough) is removed your energy flow and it won't manifest, for good or for ill. Not only that, but your meditations, spells and rituals will also be more powerful, because the energy flow is smoother and unimpeded by foreign energies and dross.

Stormblood wrote:

NinRick wrote:

You clean yourself up to 4 times a day?
You make me look bad now >_<
I do it 2 times, 1 time at work in the sun light (which is the best feeling ever!) and then in the night after the Ritual. But not gonna lie, it is way easier and it feels way better to use the Sun.

Cleaning yourself after you've been in contact with other people, especially for long amounts of time, is very useful too and should ideally be done, as you should also do it before any meditation, spell and Ritual. This way any dross you pick up from others (and trust me you do pick up a lot until your aura becomes powerful enough) is removed your energy flow and it won't manifest, for good or for ill. Not only that, but your meditations, spells and rituals will also be more powerful, because the energy flow is smoother and unimpeded by foreign energies and dross.

Thanks for the information!

Urghhh.. earlier today I wanted to comment on this.. and it got deleted xD
I am still a bit frustrated about that, not gonna lie.
But from my desire to learn, I obtain strenght >:D

Savitar wrote:

Visarga Bindu does not refers specifically to the pineal gland. (Which is either mentioned as Soma or Indu Chakra). Visarga Bindu is the complex “lunar system” that contains the Ajna, Pineal and Crown as well.

The text mentions, that no breathing exercise is involved, and the meditation is about realizing that prana and apana are of the same source and you can reunite them by completating on this truth.

Try the following:
1.Draw your attention on the Solar Chakra. Meditate on it as the centre from which Apana descends down to the Root Chakra in the form of red energy. Immerse yourself in the heavy, purifying apanic energy. Hold this image for a certain period (half minute)
2. Draw your attention on the Ajna Chakra. Meditate on it as the centre of Prana Vayu, from which it descends down to the Solar Chakra as a Golden-White energy. Immerse yourself in the invigorating, uplifting pranic energy.
3. Now concentrate on the above at the same time and hold it in your centre of attention. Feel these two opposing energies at the same time. As your meditation deepens, your consciousness penetrates into the deeper layers of pranic and apanic energies, amd on this deeper level their underlying energy is on and the same, undovided, unified.
4. Let this unified power naturally draw your focus upwards onto the Visarga Bindu, the Lunar region: The 6th, Ajna and the Crown. (if It’s more convenient, make the Pineal or the Crown to sole object of your meditation)
5. The unified prana-apanic energy in the lunar region secretes the amrita, the nectar of immortality.

Use this text more as an added feature or principle, than an exact meditation. You could also apply these principles satanic power meditations, such as Lucifers Grail, or King & Queen.

Hope I was of help, take care!

Pls can you explain it in a way even an idiot understands that? xD
firstoff, prana moves up and apana down? And by that I learned something new, which is good.

1. Basically powerup your solar chakra, then shoot it down and visualise it red (and probably hot as well), but I don't understand the last part.. I just have to force energy around me? From the inside out?

One thing confuses me. You tell us to let the energy descend. Which makes sense, I also experimented and noticed that you can easily make the energy descend from 3rd to 2nd for example, or from 6th to 5th. And from 4th to both solar and throat.. (but maybe we are talking about different things, maybe I just "opened" the shushumna for a short time, tbh most of the times I have no clue what I do it just happens and then I just repeat it sporadically)

However, doesn't the book state that Prana goes up and Apana goes down? Are we just using Apana then?

With prana, I believe that the "Manipure" point, generates "prana". As when I "Strain" it, I feel how strong energy rushes out of it. It does go up and down, however, over 90% goes UP. Thus I think this is prana. But Hey, I just knew from this post what this is, recently I thought that I am able to produce adrenaline or something, because it does feel like that. Or Strong energy.

When I do that my Pupils go from normal, to very dialated.
My Bloodpressure and Heart rate go up.
From: SYS 127, DIA 74, BPM 75
To: SYS 166, DIA 94, BPM 120 (and my device has a limit at 120 Beats per minute so the heart rate is proably even a bit higher than that :o)

It is also very hard to do and I am not able to maintain that for very long. not more than a minute, maybe 20 secs with quite some power behind it, as it drops in intensity, relatively quickly. That's why my body reacts the way it does. I even recorded me doing that, in the mirror, My Pupils went from small, to maximum dialated in 7 seconds :o
I also recorded multiple times how my blood pressure and bpm changed, and how I did not move at all :o
I even considered going to a doctor and showing him this, but then I noticed, "hell no" xD

Because my body reacts like that, along with being exhausted, I thought that I would just waste energy if this really is energy, or something.

Now you never mention, the Prana Generation points.. are they not that important?
tbh this is the first time I read about them so..

With the point at the back of the head, I do feel it. But I can not rush energy out of it like with the Manipure point. But I can maintain the strong feeling for a long time, for 1hour and more.

Is there a way to increase the energy output? >:D

I hope I don't bother you with my questions! o.o

Also thank you for sharing! I will do that meditation today.

You are great brother!

NinRick wrote:

Urghhh.. earlier today I wanted to comment on this.. and it got deleted xD
I am still a bit frustrated about that, not gonna lie.
But from my desire to learn, I obtain strenght >:D

Pls can you explain it in a way even an idiot understands that? xD
firstoff, prana moves up and apana down? And by that I learned something new, which is good.

1. Basically powerup your solar chakra, then shoot it down and visualise it red (and probably hot as well), but I don't understand the last part.. I just have to force energy around me? From the inside out?

One thing confuses me. You tell us to let the energy descend. Which makes sense, I also experimented and noticed that you can easily make the energy descend from 3rd to 2nd for example, or from 6th to 5th. And from 4th to both solar and throat.. (but maybe we are talking about different things, maybe I just "opened" the shushumna for a short time, tbh most of the times I have no clue what I do it just happens and then I just repeat it sporadically)

However, doesn't the book state that Prana goes up and Apana goes down? Are we just using Apana then?

With prana, I believe that the "Manipure" point, generates "prana". As when I "Strain" it, I feel how strong energy rushes out of it. It does go up and down, however, over 90% goes UP. Thus I think this is prana. But Hey, I just knew from this post what this is, recently I thought that I am able to produce adrenaline or something, because it does feel like that. Or Strong energy.

When I do that my Pupils go from normal, to very dialated.
My Bloodpressure and Heart rate go up.
From: SYS 127, DIA 74, BPM 75
To: SYS 166, DIA 94, BPM 120 (and my device has a limit at 120 Beats per minute so the heart rate is proably even a bit higher than that :o)

It is also very hard to do and I am not able to maintain that for very long. not more than a minute, maybe 20 secs with quite some power behind it, as it drops in intensity, relatively quickly. That's why my body reacts the way it does. I even recorded me doing that, in the mirror, My Pupils went from small, to maximum dialated in 7 seconds :o
I also recorded multiple times how my blood pressure and bpm changed, and how I did not move at all :o
I even considered going to a doctor and showing him this, but then I noticed, "hell no" xD

Because my body reacts like that, along with being exhausted, I thought that I would just waste energy if this really is energy, or something.

Now you never mention, the Prana Generation points.. are they not that important?
tbh this is the first time I read about them so..

With the point at the back of the head, I do feel it. But I can not rush energy out of it like with the Manipure point. But I can maintain the strong feeling for a long time, for 1hour and more.

Is there a way to increase the energy output? >:D

I hope I don't bother you with my questions! o.o

Also thank you for sharing! I will do that meditation today.

You are great brother!

Hi NinRick,

I will do my best to explain everything:

Prana: When using the term Prana it can have two meaning:
1. The Universal Life Force/ Creative energy.
2. We differentiate 5 main aspect of this Universal Prana (reflecting the 5 elements), which we call Vayus, meaning winds or currents.

All 5 Vayus have different functions and natural direction of flow. One (the most important) Vayu is called Prana Vayu. It rules over reception, energy/information intake and empowerment in general.

The other main Vayu is called Apana, the polar opposite: It rules over elimination, removal of both physical and energetic toxins. It’s natural direction of flow is downwards. It grounds and - in overabundance creates a depression of energy - the opposite of Prana Vayu.
Prana Vayu is Positive while Apana Vayu is negative.
Each Vayu a certain region or regions in the body/soul in which they dominate and certain chakras that rules them.
While Prana Vayu is connected with the Ajna Chakra and Heart Region (dominating the upper half of the body) Apana dominates the region below the navel. - Again, they are opposites.

Red is the dominant color of Apana. That’s why i mentioned visualising Red energy. it helps to tune in, meditate on it and control it.

The general rule of thumb of Yoga is that you have to reconnect and unify opposites, hence the name Yoga, meaning union.

The point of this meditation is to focus on Both Prana and Apana Vayu and merge them back together into their source, which is the Universal Life Force/Prana and using this pure energy to stimulate the Pineal Gland and secrete the amrita or ambrosia, which rejuvenates the Soul.

You can achieve this by first contemplating on the process of how these energies manifest and unfold
An unified energy descends and becomes fragmented, transforming into a multiform state, turning from subtle to gross. You can note the order of the Chakras reflect the same reality: As you descend from the Throat to the Root, Aether, Air, Fire, Water and Earth follow each other - from subtle to gross.
Second, you contemplate this state of separateness and concentrate on reversing the whole process, turning the fragmented multiform energy into to original unified state.

So the process of Creation, manifestation and the propreties of energies (such as upward or downward flowing) is two separate thing. While Fire is typically and Upward flowing energy, in order to manifest Aether has to descend and turn into Air and them into Fire.
That is why the symbol of Shakti or Power is a downward pointing triangle.

As for the Manipura Chakra: It is indeed the powerhouse of the Soul and has to do a lot with generating life-force but on different level and in a different category/order of energies.

The Chakras and the Soul has many different overlapping layers and levels where different orders or categories of energies operate. On the level of planetary energies, Manipura Chakra is the main source of generating life force, since it is ruled by the Sun, which is analogous with Prana Vayu Or we could say: The Sun is the Prana Vayu of the planets.

On the level of Vayus however, Manipura is the seat of Samana Vayu which is a centripetal, inward flowing current with the functions of creating stability and the transformation, unification and integration of energy. This is why one of the most common technique of stimulating Kundalini has to do with directing both Prana and Apana into the Manipura Chakra (reversing their natural direction of flow). In the Manipura, Samana Vayu transforms the two opposites into one.

I hope I was able to help you as this is a very complex and often confusing subject.