Temple of Zeus — The Assembly of the Gods

"Munka Working To Remove Negative Karma": Be Patient...

High Priest Zevios Metathronos

High Priest Zevios Metathronos
#1
Hype0 wrote:

I have been doing Munka work for removing negative karma and i clean myself and my aura after every work. However, i feel devastated and exhausted since when i started. Is it normal, what can i do? I feel like i lost my joy.

That's normal, but this means you pushed things too much, more than you should have.

You have pushed this with removal, and pushed into insensibility. Experiences like this can be signs you need to have a little bit more patience or cut back. This is not a game to try to take it all out, thinking that will solve everything "faster" and with the rest of the arrogant garbage in mind that it will simply "quickly" come out.

Quickly and other demands here stem from the lower mind [desire] and therefore this can act in contrast with the rules of the universe on these subjects, causing a clash from the negativity and harm that comes out.

You need to do cleaning from this, learn how to cut back, and take this in measurements. If the karma is taken out very abruptly, there can be negative consequences. Listen to my advice carefully here.

Removal needs to happen, slowly, gradually, and with cycles of empowering the soul and having the strength to do it.

Backlash has to be within manageable territory, and if starts going out from this, then reduction of repetitions and cleaning must happen immediately.

There is a constant child absent mindedness in the current "Zevist" approach, because many due to lack of experience might no clue what they are doing, and they have no clue what they are experiencing in the form of backfires.

That should try to bridge that gap here.

If one gets this type of very violent reaction, it means that they are not doing this properly, and despite of saying in a positive way, they are doing a bigger surgery than what one can lift. Therefore, one has to lower intensity, and expand the timeline.

As "very violent" we can define a reaction that borderline overtakes your control of the situation.

Most people are false desire oriented and they want "to be done" with everything "quickly", in the same way one goes to the doctor and they want a quick removal instead of a 5 year plan to instate perfect health. One can't get a perfect health in 24 hours or one week. These things generally can have bad consequences, because the laws of the universe and laws of healing stand in the way.

In the same way one can do a surgery on themselves but has no idea how to deal with the bloodletting this might do, because of recklessness or stupidity, one might also do numerous things that make them feel "advanced" yet backfire in more that one ways, due to the nature of misplaced wants on top of more misplaced wants.

The above can be rectified by this: Have modesty, a longterm plan, and work dilligently, instead of recklessly. When you are given signs this needs more fortification, you can push insofar you understand you can control the outcome.

With the above clarified, you can know that what has occurred won't really harm you, but that it's a pushback from the working and that you need to get more powerful, clean, and approach things with a more modest and respectable attitude in regards to limitations.

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

Discussion

Lucius Invictus [NG]
#2

Yes, but isn't backlash normal? For example, I am 60 or so days in, to a Munka working, and starting around 20 days in and ending around 40 the problem (emotional nature) came back to bite. However, now I feel more free than ever in a long time.

Lucius Invictus [NG]
#3

Okay, I re read and got the clarification I needed. I don't think my backlash was as intense as your warnings described. Especially since I am cleaning at the same time.

Thanks for the knowledge HP
I have 100% dealt with this before when I tried to force certain outcomes through sheer force; it never works out well.

#4

In regards to cutting back a bit with a working like this, could one reduce the number of reps or make each vibration shorter?

High Priest Zevios Metathronos
#5
GoldenxChild1 wrote:

Yes, but isn't backlash normal? For example, I am 60 or so days in, to a Munka working, and starting around 20 days in and ending around 40 the problem (emotional nature) came back to bite. However, now I feel more free than ever in a long time.

Backlash up to an extent, yes. But backlash that goes past a territory, means that one has properly pushed too much.

Coming back to bite is one thing, yet if something comes back with big force, then one needs to be careful.

Nikólaos666Active Helper
#6
HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:
Hype0 wrote:

I have been doing Munka work for removing negative karma and i clean myself and my aura after every work. However, i feel devastated and exhausted since when i started. Is it normal, what can i do? I feel like i lost my joy.

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-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

I felt less patient with my kids last weak, I was beeing aggressive. I was not doing any cleaning. One day I read one of Blitz post and saw and understand I had to clean myself after doing munka. And know I make the connection between my aggresive behavior and my working without cleaning.

Days are getting better since I vibrate Surya 111x after my munka working.

Novice Priest Karnonnos
#7

I didn't start doing the Removing Karma/MUNKA working until I had done 2.5 years of Returning Curses, cleansing and Ritual every single day, so people have to be careful. And, actually, my GD guided me to it after something specific happened, I considered it too much to deal with before.

It gave me amazing results - but I have to bear in mind that's not necessarily what is going to happen for a beginner, someone who hasn't done the RC routine or long workings before, someone who may have been here ages yet their Chakras aren't even open (because they dislike meditation, can't concentrate or something), or someone who is very mentally ill, etc.

Whenever I give advice for this in future, I will try to specify its a LONG TERM goal. If you are new, your Chakras have been opened and you decide to do it, go low and slow. 1 repetition per Chakra is fine. Focus on building up protection, yoga and doing workings most of all.

That also goes for VISHUDDHI, which in my estimation at 9 repetitions can be too extreme and seems to have caused issues and backlash with some new people for a while. AUM seems like a softer energy for cleansing at the start.

The problem is that many come to the ToZ expecting immediate results in regards to crisis situations where the shit has already hit the fan dramatically from years, possibly even centuries, of building up or neglect and seeing this can make some of us over-eager in trying to help. The reality is that any problem that took centuries, decades or even two years to dramatically explode are not going to go away easily, even within a few months. One has to be patient and understand you're making investments for eternity.

Dragonheart666
#8

OKAY.... this is new to me! And I wanted to hear about the warnings of this and how to do this right! I have been using this monitor for the past 3 weeks! Especially during the time of the alignment of the planets and all the crazy shit that was going on causing problems between people arguments breaking out and getting out of control people getting into an argument over the stupidest things and the backlashing and the energy flowing all different directions sporadically and out of control and Then followed by the Mercury retrograde! And suddenly aware of the things that I am picking up! And the anger and the emotions that I have picked up from other people and how it affected me! I have been meditating 🧘‍♀️ and at least 2 hours a day! And using Munka to help me! Overcome my problems from the past and overcoming anger issues! Dealing with enemies and idiots! Especially when I'm on the job site and when I come home I don't want to bring these problems with me! I do know that I feel more comfortable and I feel a little more at ease! Taking my time and doing it slowly and softly! Try not to think of what the negative shit! Trying not to let this stupidity and the ignorance of other people get under my skin! I too have been experiencing all kinds of crazy shit! For the first two weeks. It was like my head was spitting! Trying to figure out what I can do with all of these energies coming at me at all different directions without allowing it to take effect on me! It is not easy! You have to learn to deal with your own pain and your own shit! I go into a meditation and sometimes I will even take a yoga class and sit down clearing my head! Allowing myself some time to think before I go into removing the negativity! Not to mention the fact I have been doing my Saturn planetary Square along with it! Something very powerful! That a lot of people don't seem to understand or appreciate! You have to be calm and patient when it comes to doing these things and you can't rush through things and be sloppy! I've had problems with this before! And needless to say I have learned my lesson well! And yes I said that I am new to this! And I too have been dealing with a lot of problems as well! We all do when we don't take our time to do things right! And I needed to hear about this! And what to do. And how to do this right! Thank you for sharing this information! 🙏 I am still learning this and the lessons from my own experiences with this!. We all seem to think that we know everything! Until we get out and do something stupid! You get a wake up call! When things come flying out at you! People's emotions everybody's energy is flying all over the place! And what to do with yours and how to harness your own and work with your own problems as well! I too and knew at this! It is helping me in many many ways! Yes but in the same sense I want to learn to do this right!

Dragonheart666
#9

HP Zevios Metathronos Thank you for sharing this information! 🔥

Dragonheart666
#10

I started out with Munka just a couple weeks ago. I started out with 10 and worked my way up to the count of 20! And that's when things started going haywire with me too! And now I am trying to get things organized and worked out the best I can without making a bigger mess!

#11
Karnonnos wrote:

One has to be patient and understand you're making investments for eternity.

This is a very important lesson, I cannot stress this enough. Not doing it properly and with an unsound basis almost cost me my sanity and life. The warning was there but I chose to ignore it having an overinflated self-confidence pushed it too hard. In combination with unresolved mental issues it can be devastating.

To all brothers and sisters starting or intending to do karma removal workings please heed these warnings and go slow.

I quoted you just to say that I enjoy reading your posts an have found some of them helpful personally, thank you. We need more people assuming responsible leading and teaching positions.

The Phantom Stranger
#12

Yea, my intrusive thoughts frequency went up by quite a bit when I jumped the gun from 5-7 times RAUM chanting into solar chakra(not necessarily during sun hour) to 108-216x a day specifically during sun hours.

I was losing control of myself.

Now I reduced it to 50 times a day(still during sun hours) along with base chakra chanting of LAUM during Saturn hours as well.

I think because I am getting strong feelings to do base chakra chanting, probably because my guardian demon is showing me, because base chakra helps decrease intrusive thoughts I think, because it has earth element.

I still chant for other chakras but only 5x a day. Along with cleaning of course.

#13

If you have been doing this for many years more around say 8 years or so you will come to find that much of the negative energy kind of just irradiates out of you anyway without needing to do cleansing to some ridiculous degree only really when i have been doing some not very nice magic or i have been exposed to not very nice people do i do cleansing or when i was opening chakras and pushing through things such as the nadis blockages or doing twin serpent meditation did i do cleansing oh yes and if i felt a sickness starting to fester but yeah that was pretty much it not after every single ritual or meditation.

Deleted member 74679
#14

I do the Munka working to free my soul from the enemy everyday and sofar it seems it's really working and I'm not even near 90 days and i stopped with four things that are of the enemy and i have had no push back yet does this mean it's not really working or what?

#15
HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:
GoldenxChild1 wrote:

Yes, but isn't backlash normal? For example, I am 60 or so days in, to a Munka working, and starting around 20 days in and ending around 40 the problem (emotional nature) came back to bite. However, now I feel more free than ever in a long time.

Backlash up to an extent, yes. But backlash that goes past a territory, means that one has properly pushed too much.

Coming back to bite is one thing, yet if something comes back with big force, then one needs to be careful.

So it is like when one tries to burn fat eating less but you literally didn't ate the whole day and then when you eat your body save it as fat?

#16

Karma is a powerful force to reconcile with, especially when it was attempted to influenced by the heaping amounts of energy the enemy has sent for centuries. So what's especially true for many of us is that healing, cleaning, protective and cleaning workings will have to done progressively throughout our lifetime.

Many of us have done 40, 90, 180, 360 day workings and some even 2.5 years amazingly enough, but what's important to remember is that they all build upon another. Some workings will be easier than others, just depending on the severity of the situation whether internally or externally. And some obviously, will seem a little tough; these will all reveal aspects about you and your life that deserve introspection.

And lastly, one should never forget the basics:

- Are you pushing yourself too hard?
- Do you feel strong enough to accomplish the working?
- Do you actually have the will and desire to commit to this change?

Taking the time to prioritize what needs to be done for yourself is essential to healing your soul. You can always ask Father or your Guardian to help confirm the working you'd like to take on.

SapphireDragon
#17

It's always very important to be patient with any working. People tend to not consider that you can't just force things like this because they can't outright see or tell they're overdoing it right away. You've just got to learn to pay attention to the warning signs and learn your limits.

Just because it's spiritual and not physical doesn't mean you can't over do it. It's just as much tiring as any exercise or workout. Just in different ways. And too much can be just as harmful as working out too hard and ignoring warning signs from your body that you need to slow down.

Treat it like any workout just like exercising. You can't push your body too far or too hard without having to rest or else you'll burn yourself out or worse, it's no different with spiritual workings. Once you learn your limits you'll know how much you can handle. And the more you safely work on yourself, it'll build up like building muscles to where you can handle more. Just like with anything you've gotta work your way up.

It's definitely important to keep this in mind.

#18

Good to know. One thing a lot of Zevism has to consider is to do workings on specific problems instead of general workings. This is more powerful for specific issues. Just want to add this in because before I was trying to remove everything with just general workings/cleanings and it does not work that way. They help a lot but if you need to heal or remove something you need to be specific. This has been my experience.

FuchsLead Translator
#19
HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:
GoldenxChild1 wrote:

Yes, but isn't backlash normal? For example, I am 60 or so days in, to a Munka working, and starting around 20 days in and ending around 40 the problem (emotional nature) came back to bite. However, now I feel more free than ever in a long time.

Backlash up to an extent, yes. But backlash that goes past a territory, means that one has properly pushed too much.

Coming back to bite is one thing, yet if something comes back with big force, then one needs to be careful.

Does one need to clean bad Karma or is this optional? I only did cleaning and empowering consistenly. Recently I started doing a full 111 reps SURYAE SUUU-RR-YAH-YAY cleaning after I do one round off Ritual+Tetra+Shattering, with good outcome. Before I only did raise energy with 6x VU VA VO. Along with kundalini/hatha yoga.

#20
HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

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Blitz mentioned in a reply that doing a "general karmic" working isn't good and that karma needs to be popped by pinpoint attacks.

But can that still work? One member was like, I did it in general because I didn't know what to remove eventually after a cycle of time, I figured it out and when the following date appeared dekarma'd that specific negativity.

Right now since April 8th; Lilith's Vu6/Va6/Vo6 after x40 UR(UUU-RRR) vibration; affirmation "I am fully free from any and all negative karma now and forever. x9"

My question is if I don't know what to remove is this okay?

I don't want to do more vibration till 90 or 108 as 90 is a lesser number that is positive. And 108 or 18 more is a Saturn-based number that requires minimum 40 days to work with. So I did 40 a lower number but reasonable.

My plan is 40 days but if it works out go to 90 and if that works out I'd honestly like to try and keep going all the way to 720 days, extreme but if all the negative karma gets removed better that way.

Honestly I just don't know what to remove. Hell some people stated you can remove personality traits or other properties for example, if an angry person perhaps working on that negative anger manifestation or if having love issues a present/past life removal for vows and oaths made as mentioned on the page on the ToZ mainsite.

Can a "in general working" work? Any and all Negative Karma? Or is that not how it works?

Shouldn't it be in general and just blast as long as possible to slough everything off? particularly if we don't know specifics. Or if specifically known have so much on your plate you don't know where to start.

Does that harm the person removing everything?