Temple of Zeus — The Assembly of the Gods

I might be cooked

_+0O

#1

I'm not exactly sure how I should start this post. I'll just try to be as truthful as I possibly can. There will be people who call bs, of course. Regardless, I think it's important to record my experiences here for anyone else that might one day find themselves in a similar position. Think of this as an anecdotal experience, rather than some attempt to prove anything.

I've spent the last year attempting to initiate my personal magnum opus, and it has been a rough road. I won't share how I managed to attempt this, because the methods were very degenerate and dangerous to most people's standards and I don't have much to argue it was worth the risks (yet?).

I've been using a modified classical interpretation of the great work, where there's 6 stages: Nigredo, Solutio, Albedo, Citrinitas, Coagulatio and Rubedo. This is a part where I must be exceptionally honest, I'm not nearly studied enough in academia to piece together something this advanced in a coherent manner, so I used AI to help me do so. There are a lot of sources that I slept on that are similar to what I've run into so far, in particular the work of Carl Jung. Of course, AI doesn't understand the material enough either, especially in it's application, so I've had to resort to experimenting with everything and learn what works the hard way.

So far, I was very wrong how this cycle would work, and underestimated just how devastating the negredo process can be, especially when it appears to be the most frequent one. After countless ego deaths and chaotic dysfunctional repeated cycles, which I now realize have been occurring earlier without my awareness of it, I'm starting to recognize the patterns and what they mean.

One of the major findings thus far is the first thing to dissolve is morality and other superficial societal norms. Initially I thought I had already overcome this earlier, but I was wrong, even now as I write this I still operate on them.

According to Carl Jung:

  • The Ego: Your conscious identity—the "I" you think you are. It's the manager of your conscious mind, making decisions, maintaining your persona (social mask), and trying to keep things orderly.

  • The Shadow: The hidden, unconscious part of your personality containing everything you repress or deny about yourself—traits, desires, impulses, and capacities that are incompatible with your conscious self-image (e.g., rage, selfishness, "taboo" urges, but also hidden talents).

If you read between the lines, this is everything you must know in terms of function. The ego has to be challenged, because it actively prevents our power through self suppression of the shadow. We often think the enemy prevents our ascension, but we play a big part of it too. We suppress our psychic potential because it has a significant social cost not to. From what I have seen in myself, the erosion of the ego removes oneself from so called common sense and makes connection to other people difficult. That is to say, your ego is essentially what makes you human, at least to general consensus... and they might as well be right.

Once you remove the self suppressing ego, you don't only get the "hidden talents" you probably were hoping for, but also every other part of you too. You release a primal part of yourself as well, that in my case pretty closely matches descriptions of what a "demon" is, and that's definitely not a coincidence-- that christianity would so precisely align itself against it. But here's the thing, I sorta am too. Is that shocking to you? That primal part of me is so degenerate and psychotic that it genuinely worries me. It worries me enough not to share how to initiate this process, and it's actually bad enough that I probably as is more than qualify for the nut house. If I didn't have an extreme amount of earth in my natal, I'd probably already have succumb to my shadow. The initial annoyance of a resistant ego is showing itself to be a blessing once I popped the hood, so to speak. I'm being pushed closer to the edge of a cliff at an acceleration I no longer have control of. Or maybe I actually do, it's hard to say.

I forgot the point of me writing this. It was probably a waste of time, but I might as well press post since my time has already been wasted here.

Discussion

Henu the GreatActive Helper
#2

You asked AI to help you with The Great Work, when in reality the only beings who can help you with that are Daemons and Gods... Sorry, you are not ready for it, and I do not know why you push it like this. Ignorance?

Ol argedco luciftiasActive Helper
#3

Imagine trying to transform your soul to become a God, except not working with the Gods in any way. And also not doing any of the rituals, workings, or power meditations to actually advance or strengthen the soul in any way.

Computers giving a bullshit unenlightened and misunderstood summary of a bunch of books which themselves contain no actual spiritual instructions and little to no useful information anyway. Creating a "plan" for spiritual soul evolution to become a god, but it does not involve the Gods in any way and it does not involve working with the soul in any way. I can't imagine any way that this could make sense.

HestiokratosActive Translator
#4

AI will not advance you on your spiritual journey. There is no shortcut or anything. You need to study, meditate, and practice.
Please, about spirituality, don't take any sources so seriously but the Temple of Zeus and The Clergy posts and Guardians posts as well, and always read them by heart to learn, not just simply look at them. Otherwise, you'll hurt yourself.

#5
Henu the Great wrote:View source

You asked AI to help you with The Great Work, when in reality the only beings who can help you with that are Daemons and Gods... Sorry, you are not ready for it, and I do not know why you push it like this. Ignorance?

LOL its defo AI henu hope you good pal

#6
Ol argedco luciftias wrote:View source

Imagine trying to transform your soul to become a God, except not working with the Gods in any way. And also not doing any of the rituals, workings, or power meditations to actually advance or strengthen the soul in any way.

Computers giving a bullshit unenlightened and misunderstood summary of a bunch of books which themselves contain no actual spiritual instructions and little to no useful information anyway. Creating a "plan" for spiritual soul evolution to become a god, but it does not involve the Gods in any way and it does not involve working with the soul in any way. I can't imagine any way that this could make sense.

:ROFLMAO: :cool:

laurentumActive Translator
#7

You will be led to the right conclusion when your GD decides you need it or can make use of it.

Just enjoy the process, meditate.

serpentwalker666
#8

The only way to go through this process correctly and complete the magnum opus is directly through Zeus and the Gods themselves.

Another thing to keep in mind is if the rest of the steps were circulated and shared, we would have people going and trying to do this when they are not ready or advanced enough and could deeply damage their souls and affect their overall growth as beings.

When you are actually ready to start this, and go through the very long and difficult process of transmuting the soul into the diamond body, the Gods will directly let you know.

There is no sense in trying to push hard at this and harming yourself or frying your nervous system. You can just enjoy the journey and work hard, and take your time.

Please keep this in mind.

Henu the GreatActive Helper
#9
EnkiUK56 wrote:View source

LOL its defo AI henu hope you good pal

I'm good, thanks.

The original poster is a human, but they have favored academics for spiritual growth, which is a dead-end pursuit in this world as it stands.

#10

AI is not a reliable source to decide on spirituality, better leave it to manage the phone, generate images... Artificial intelligence is really a very good tool, but for temporal matters, and for doing various projects, and not for managing your spiritual path. Try to enter from this state, meditate and get to know the guardian demon :-)

#11
Henu the Great wrote:View source

I'm good, thanks.

The original poster is a human, but they have favored academics for spiritual growth, which is a dead-end pursuit in this world as it stands.

Glad you doing well henu pal :_)

Henu the GreatActive Helper
#12
EnkiUK56 wrote:View source

Glad you doing well henu pal :_)

Thanks, I hope your family is well and good.

#13

This has to be trolling, right?
The PFP makes me think so anyways....

#14
Henu the Great wrote:View source

Thanks, I hope your family is well and good.

Thank you bro they had a good yuletide,

Same to You and yours my brother.

#15
Henu the Great wrote:View source

You asked AI to help you with The Great Work, when in reality the only beings who can help you with that are Daemons and Gods... Sorry, you are not ready for it, and I do not know why you push it like this. Ignorance?

I have been using AI to double check my theories and find similarities to others' work who came to similar conclusions. In this way, AI is very useful because this isn't outside the utility it's intended for.

I don't have much to say on why the Gods haven't helped me more than they have. Something/someone did in the beginning, but only cryptic things that I had to figure out for myself over time. My interpretation is that anyone worthy should be able to figure this out for themselves, with or without the Gods. That's all I can say with confidence.

#16
Ol argedco luciftias wrote:View source

Imagine trying to transform your soul to become a God, except not working with the Gods in any way. And also not doing any of the rituals, workings, or power meditations to actually advance or strengthen the soul in any way.

Computers giving a bullshit unenlightened and misunderstood summary of a bunch of books which themselves contain no actual spiritual instructions and little to no useful information anyway. Creating a "plan" for spiritual soul evolution to become a god, but it does not involve the Gods in any way and it does not involve working with the soul in any way. I can't imagine any way that this could make sense.

Ok.

You have a lot of biases on how things should and can be done, Personally, I don't make these assumptions and I'm really just doing my best to make something out of it. I'm not going to claim either that what I'm doing will result in "godhood", I have no idea. I like not knowing, so I'm okay with that.

#17
serpentwalker666 wrote:View source

The only way to go through this process correctly and complete the magnum opus is directly through Zeus and the Gods themselves.

Another thing to keep in mind is if the rest of the steps were circulated and shared, we would have people going and trying to do this when they are not ready or advanced enough and could deeply damage their souls and affect their overall growth as beings.

When you are actually ready to start this, and go through the very long and difficult process of transmuting the soul into the diamond body, the Gods will directly let you know.

There is no sense in trying to push hard at this and harming yourself or frying your nervous system. You can just enjoy the journey and work hard, and take your time.

Please keep this in mind.

Look, I get what you're trying to do here and it would be the best advice for 99.999% of people. It might even be the best advice for me too, but I can't follow it. This is just something I need to do, or at least try. Maybe what I'm doing isn't even the actual magnum opus, but something before it. I don't know and I'm not going to pretend to know.

#18
Null Sechs wrote:View source

AI is not a reliable source to decide on spirituality, better leave it to manage the phone, generate images... Artificial intelligence is really a very good tool, but for temporal matters, and for doing various projects, and not for managing your spiritual path. Try to enter from this state, meditate and get to know the guardian demon :)

I'm not using AI to create rituals or anything, it's bad at it and half the time it outright refuses. AI alone wouldn't have gotten me anywhere close to where I've managed to. Knowing the right questions to get useful answers out of AI is half the battle, otherwise you'd get the usual slop. The other big part is knowing when the AI is wrong, it too often is.

#19
SoulSails13 wrote:View source

This has to be trolling, right?
The PFP makes me think so anyways....

Nope, as of right now I'm taking this seriously. At least I use a pfp...

#20
_+0O wrote:View source

I like not knowing

ToZ is the place of learning, of knowing.

If people come here to NOT KNOW - why do they do it in the 1st place? The answer's obvious.

Your 1st post was not about asking, introducting oneself, how you've found ToZ, but about telling us something that you don't seem to care about. Something that is beyond the power of artificial technology.

_+0O wrote:View source

Nope, as of right now I'm taking this seriously

I believe you - all people who've come here recently, and who are no longer here, were serious about their 'ideas'.

poof!