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i hate my biological sex

High Priest Zevios Metathronos

High Priest Zevios Metathronos
#1

If you plan on mutilating yourself for a 3rd person and experimenting on yourself to gain their love, that is highly toxic and extremely negative.

If this woman is in love with you, she should accept you. Why doesn't she go through the ordeal instead?

You can achieve your goals as a woman, nobody is keeping you in today's society.

Discussion

#2
ashe1020 wrote:

this might be a bit dumb of me to ask, and i don’t mean to frustrate anyone, but does anyone think there is a way to alter my sex characteristics or biological sex, perhaps in a way that corresponds with the whole twin soul theory? i can’t see a future for myself as a woman, and the way i see it, everything i hope for relies on my status as a man or intersex. i’m not confused about my gender. i’m conscious of the fact that i am a female. i just need some superficial changes because the woman that i’m deeply in love with is straight. all i want is children and a happy family, but i don’t know if it’s even possible.

if she is stright she may not be into you i know you love her but their are many who are lesbian if i were you do a work to find your ideal mate im sure you will find the perfect partner but intersex not sure with that

Academic Scholar
#3
ashe1020 wrote:

this might be a bit dumb of me to ask, and i don’t mean to frustrate anyone, but does anyone think there is a way to alter my sex characteristics or biological sex, perhaps in a way that corresponds with the whole twin soul theory? i can’t see a future for myself as a woman, and the way i see it, everything i hope for relies on my status as a man or intersex. i’m not confused about my gender. i’m conscious of the fact that i am a female. i just need some superficial changes because the woman that i’m deeply in love with is straight. all i want is children and a happy family, but i don’t know if it’s even possible.

I’m “twin soul” and I’m against medical transition, you’ll gain nothing from mutilating your body and injecting hormones into yourself, medical transition has serious health risks and can cause medical issues. Mutilating your body could also interfere with completing the Magnum Opus.

If this woman is straight then she isn’t the one for you, you should find someone who’s also lesbian and who loves you for you. You could program your auraExternal ↗ to attract the perfect partner for you.

You need to accept yourself, you should use these affirmations in Satanic Hypnosis:External ↗

“I completely accept myself.”
“I love myself.”
“I am free from punishing myself. I forgive myself.”

You should also read these articles:

Accepting One’s Self by HP HCExternal ↗

On Women and Goddesses by HP HCExternal ↗

Women: Traditions & Duties of Time by LydiaExternal ↗

AquariusActive Helper
#4

Also accept that if you're gonna go with a woman, you should not have kids, as they need both a mother and a father to develop mentally in the healthiest way.

#5
ashe1020 wrote:

this might be a bit dumb of me to ask, and i don’t mean to frustrate anyone, but does anyone think there is a way to alter my sex characteristics or biological sex, perhaps in a way that corresponds with the whole twin soul theory? i can’t see a future for myself as a woman, and the way i see it, everything i hope for relies on my status as a man or intersex. i’m not confused about my gender. i’m conscious of the fact that i am a female. i just need some superficial changes because the woman that i’m deeply in love with is straight. all i want is children and a happy family, but i don’t know if it’s even possible.

You just need to know you can be a female and be as masculine as you want to be.. it won’t change the situation. You have some unrequited love going on, and changing yourself so drastically just to be with someone is unhealthy. You should never change yourself so much just to be with someone. They either love you or they don’t. There’s very little chance she will be with you if you did change your characteristics or went trans. Being trans would be even more confusing for you. You’d lose yourself and what makes you you. And that’s more holy than any relationship with someone.

NinRickActive Translator
#6
Academic Scholar wrote:
ashe1020 wrote:

this might be a bit dumb of me to ask, and i don’t mean to frustrate anyone, but does anyone think there is a way to alter my sex characteristics or biological sex, perhaps in a way that corresponds with the whole twin soul theory? i can’t see a future for myself as a woman, and the way i see it, everything i hope for relies on my status as a man or intersex. i’m not confused about my gender. i’m conscious of the fact that i am a female. i just need some superficial changes because the woman that i’m deeply in love with is straight. all i want is children and a happy family, but i don’t know if it’s even possible.

I’m “twin soul” and I’m against medical transition, you’ll gain nothing from mutilating your body and injecting hormones into yourself, medical transition has serious health risks and can cause medical issues. Mutilating your body could also interfere with completing the Magnum Opus.

If this woman is straight then she isn’t the one for you, you should find someone who’s also lesbian and who loves you for you. You could program your auraExternal ↗ to attract the perfect partner for you.

You need to accept yourself, you should use these affirmations in Satanic Hypnosis:External ↗

“I completely accept myself.”
“I love myself.”
“I am free from punishing myself. I forgive myself.”

You should also read these articles:

Accepting One’s Self by HP HCExternal ↗

On Women and Goddesses by HP HCExternal ↗

Women: Traditions & Duties of Time by LydiaExternal ↗

You are remarkable, good job.

#7
Meteor wrote:
ashe1020 wrote:

this might be a bit dumb of me to ask, and i don’t mean to frustrate anyone, but does anyone think there is a way to alter my sex characteristics or biological sex, perhaps in a way that corresponds with the whole twin soul theory? i can’t see a future for myself as a woman, and the way i see it, everything i hope for relies on my status as a man or intersex. i’m not confused about my gender. i’m conscious of the fact that i am a female. i just need some superficial changes because the woman that i’m deeply in love with is straight.

I understand how you feel, but changing yourself for a specific person is not a good idea. Even if you get together with the person you love or already are dating her, a relationship can fall apart for all sorts of unforeseen reasons. When that happens people move on, and eventually fall in love again. What if the next person you fall in love with prefers women, and won't be attracted to you because you changed your body? Regardless of what method you choose (material or spiritual), it would not be easy to change back.

Think about what kind of person you want to be for your own sake, not for someone else. You need to find someone who loves you for who you are. I'm sorry for saying that when you're in love with her, but the fact is simply that not everyone is compatible, and sometimes there's nothing that can be done about that. What you can do, however, is use love spells. There are two types, either to attract a specific person or to help you meet someone who is highly compatible with you.

A more positive way to go about this is to work on developing features that are considered more stereotypically masculine in a natural and healthy way. If you start working out seriously with a good diet you can get nicely toned muscles, and you'll even be more fit and healthy that way. You can also put your hair in a bun or cut it short, and try practicing with your voice to speak at a deeper pitch if the person you're interested in is into deep voices; I personally prefer men, but I find some deep female voices attractive as well.

Sexuality is more often more fluid than people realise, so just with those few things you might be able to charm some women who thought they were straight, although not everyone is as susceptible. Like noodles, some women are straight until they get hot and wet.

I wish you good luck!

all i want is children and a happy family, but i don’t know if it’s even possible.

I can only hope that someday ways are found for two people of the same sex to have children together. Saying something like that is probably a bit controversial as some people might consider it unnatural, but it would help so much with problems like this.

In the future we will have artificial wombs but these are not ideal for the offspring of free, emotional and beautiful beings that are humans. For asexual, ugly, degenerate, limited and emotionless slaves like the greys it is obviously ideal.

However, we have to create artificial wombs because we will need them for other purposes. They will be needed for different experiments and studies for humans and also for other life forms. For example, we will create and develop specimens of different animals and then put them where they can live and reproduce naturally.

It will be possible to reproduce two men and two women. In the case of two homosexual men, it will only be possible through an artificial womb; in the case of two homosexual women, it will also be possible to fertilise them in a rather unusual way... by taking two eggs and using one of them as an egg, while the other one only takes the genetic material and puts it into the other one. Of course, even in the case of two men, a different union of their genetic material will have to be made from the male and female union to create the embryo and place it in the artificial womb.

Renting out one's womb for the embryos of others is not a good idea for two reasons. First, pregnancy is not a walk in the park and it is an intimate and private thing. Second, it is deep and connected. Biological mothers form special connections with their children. A man is also connected to his woman and children.

The above demonstrates why many women who rent out their wombs for money find it difficult to separate themselves from other people's children as they grow and give birth.

I agree with Aquarius that children need both a father and a mother and not a fake or even absent father and mother as in the case of the greys.

Affection can be created with anyone but it is wrong to reject one's sex or body from wrong perceptions and expectations. When we are more advanced we will know more about how sex is determined in the fetus and much more, it will also be possible to change sex if necessary but for now this is not possible, you can only ruin your genitals and your body.

#8
Academic Scholar wrote:
ashe1020 wrote:

this might be a bit dumb of me to ask, and i don’t mean to frustrate anyone, but does anyone think there is a way to alter my sex characteristics or biological sex, perhaps in a way that corresponds with the whole twin soul theory? i can’t see a future for myself as a woman, and the way i see it, everything i hope for relies on my status as a man or intersex. i’m not confused about my gender. i’m conscious of the fact that i am a female. i just need some superficial changes because the woman that i’m deeply in love with is straight. all i want is children and a happy family, but i don’t know if it’s even possible.

I’m “twin soul” and I’m against medical transition, you’ll gain nothing from mutilating your body and injecting hormones into yourself, medical transition has serious health risks and can cause medical issues. Mutilating your body could also interfere with completing the Magnum Opus.

If this woman is straight then she isn’t the one for you, you should find someone who’s also lesbian and who loves you for you. You could program your auraExternal ↗ to attract the perfect partner for you.

You need to accept yourself, you should use these affirmations in Satanic Hypnosis:External ↗

“I completely accept myself.”
“I love myself.”
“I am free from punishing myself. I forgive myself.”

You should also read these articles:

Accepting One’s Self by HP HCExternal ↗

On Women and Goddesses by HP HCExternal ↗

Women: Traditions & Duties of Time by LydiaExternal ↗

I completely agree with you as well. As a man I find that I am more feminine than even many girls in energy but I don't desire to change my gender. I have just learned that I should accept myself. There are even Gods who are more sensitive males with feminine qualities so why should I hate myself for who I am.

They are pushing this a lot. But doesn't mean I will bite you do not need to either. This also is a dumb reason to do it to begin with. Why do not you find someone who isn't straight if you would like a partner who is woman instead of changing yourself. This will lead to a lot of mental health issues later on trust me.

#9
ashe1020 wrote:

this might be a bit dumb of me to ask, and i don’t mean to frustrate anyone, but does anyone think there is a way to alter my sex characteristics or biological sex, perhaps in a way that corresponds with the whole twin soul theory? i can’t see a future for myself as a woman, and the way i see it, everything i hope for relies on my status as a man or intersex. i’m not confused about my gender. i’m conscious of the fact that i am a female. i just need some superficial changes because the woman that i’m deeply in love with is straight. all i want is children and a happy family, but i don’t know if it’s even possible.

The "Twin Soul" theory was a Hoax perpetrated by disgraced ex HP Mageson who was also perpetrating the hoax that Transgenderism was a special condition for special people.

In real fact if you're already in the mindset that you're a man (or feel like a man) while being a biological woman ,you're suffering from Gender Dysphoria.

You need to do freeing of the Soul workings to free yourself from these issues and accept yourself as you are.

Check the Zevist calendar for your region, for appropriate freeing of the soul working dates.

You can use Ansuz, and Uruz or Sanskrit Munka. Begin at the hour of the moon (check Chronos XP ), make sure the hour is not void.

Vibrate AUM *9

Affirm "In a healthy and positive manner for me ,I am permanently and completely free in every way from feelings of Gender Dysphoria and Confusion. I am now fully intune,accepting and at peace with my Biological Gender ,now and forever. " *9 times

Then Vibrate your choice of word (Ansuz,Uruz (54,54) or Munka (108) )

After Completing the vibrations, Affirm again 9 times.

Vibrate AUM *9

Do this for 90 days or if possible for 108 or 216 days due to the severity of the issue here.

High Priest Zevios Metathronos
#10
NinRick wrote:
Academic Scholar wrote:
ashe1020 wrote:

this might be a bit dumb of me to ask, and i don’t mean to frustrate anyone, but does anyone think there is a way to alter my sex characteristics or biological sex, perhaps in a way that corresponds with the whole twin soul theory? i can’t see a future for myself as a woman, and the way i see it, everything i hope for relies on my status as a man or intersex. i’m not confused about my gender. i’m conscious of the fact that i am a female. i just need some superficial changes because the woman that i’m deeply in love with is straight. all i want is children and a happy family, but i don’t know if it’s even possible.

I’m “twin soul” and I’m against medical transition, you’ll gain nothing from mutilating your body and injecting hormones into yourself, medical transition has serious health risks and can cause medical issues. Mutilating your body could also interfere with completing the Magnum Opus.

If this woman is straight then she isn’t the one for you, you should find someone who’s also lesbian and who loves you for you. You could program your auraExternal ↗ to attract the perfect partner for you.

You need to accept yourself, you should use these affirmations in Satanic Hypnosis:External ↗

“I completely accept myself.”
“I love myself.”
“I am free from punishing myself. I forgive myself.”

You should also read these articles:

Accepting One’s Self by HP HCExternal ↗

On Women and Goddesses by HP HCExternal ↗

Women: Traditions & Duties of Time by LydiaExternal ↗

You are remarkable, good job.

Agreed.

High Priest Zevios Metathronos
#11
ashe1020 wrote:
HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

If you plan on mutilating yourself for a 3rd person and experimenting on yourself to gain their love, that is highly toxic and extremely negative.

If this woman is in love with you, she should accept you. Why doesn't she go through the ordeal instead?

You can achieve your goals as a woman, nobody is keeping you in today's society.

i just don’t feel like one. i feel like i would be more myself if i were a man. i don’t know if that’s a good or bad thing. it’s like i finally found somebody sees me for who i want to be, the most accurate representation of myself.

Please do refer to the reply by Academic Scholar, and after you are done with these introspective methods [which are 99% of the issues], then you might want to consider other things. Others have helped sufficiently in the comments, just take the wisdom.

And don't do reckless things on yourself please. The science is simply not there yet without severe costs associated with specific irreversible decisions. Just do what's best for yourself and health.

#12
HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:
ashe1020 wrote:
HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

If you plan on mutilating yourself for a 3rd person and experimenting on yourself to gain their love, that is highly toxic and extremely negative.

If this woman is in love with you, she should accept you. Why doesn't she go through the ordeal instead?

You can achieve your goals as a woman, nobody is keeping you in today's society.

i just don’t feel like one. i feel like i would be more myself if i were a man. i don’t know if that’s a good or bad thing. it’s like i finally found somebody sees me for who i want to be, the most accurate representation of myself.

Please do refer to the reply by Academic Scholar, and after you are done with these introspective methods [which are 99% of the issues], then you might want to consider other things. Others have helped sufficiently in the comments, just take the wisdom.

And don't do reckless things on yourself please. The science is simply not there yet without severe costs associated with specific irreversible decisions. Just do what's best for yourself and health.

On the note of being in love with someone and accepting them no matter what, that’s definitely a thing I did with my ex when he lied to me and said he wanted to be a woman. When people love each other they look past a lot of things. Even though it’s not what I would’ve preferred. I looked at it like as if someone got into an accident and their dick fell off. I’d still be there. You work around it. That, in fact, is easier than loving someone who doesn’t accept themselves. And that’s what his claim of wanting to be a woman was, and it ended for a lot of good reasons. If someone doesn’t love themself enough, it’s almost impossible to be with them after a while. It causes a lot of toxic things things, including a cycle of lying because they can’t be honest with themselves even.

You could also have higher levels of testosterone and hormones that males have higher amounts of for whatever reason but the reason is not because you’re meant to be a male. It’s just a different build on a woman. When my testosterone was just a little higher I definitely noticed more masculine traits coming out, and didn’t feel like my full self. Due to an ovarian issue. Whatever the case is, you are a masculine woman and you should love it and REP that. I have a couple close girl friends who are gay and they are wonderful examples for lesbians, they don’t believe in trans despite being as masculine as they are and that is just them. Same with my gay dude friends.

And another person I worked briefly with was a woman going through a sex change, got the change, and absolutely hated it. The person was extremely confused and went through hell. Major regrets.

Lunar Dance 666
#13
Sundara wrote:
HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:
ashe1020 wrote:

i just don’t feel like one. i feel like i would be more myself if i were a man. i don’t know if that’s a good or bad thing. it’s like i finally found somebody sees me for who i want to be, the most accurate representation of myself.

Please do refer to the reply by Academic Scholar, and after you are done with these introspective methods [which are 99% of the issues], then you might want to consider other things. Others have helped sufficiently in the comments, just take the wisdom.

And don't do reckless things on yourself please. The science is simply not there yet without severe costs associated with specific irreversible decisions. Just do what's best for yourself and health.

On the note of being in love with someone and accepting them no matter what, that’s definitely a thing I did with my ex when he lied to me and said he wanted to be a woman. When people love each other they look past a lot of things. Even though it’s not what I would’ve preferred. I looked at it like as if someone got into an accident and their dick fell off. I’d still be there. You work around it. That, in fact, is easier than loving someone who doesn’t accept themselves. And that’s what his claim of wanting to be a woman was, and it ended for a lot of good reasons. If someone doesn’t love themself enough, it’s almost impossible to be with them after a while. It causes a lot of toxic things things, including a cycle of lying because they can’t be honest with themselves even.

You could also have higher levels of testosterone and hormones that males have higher amounts of for whatever reason but the reason is not because you’re meant to be a male. It’s just a different build on a woman. When my testosterone was just a little higher I definitely noticed more masculine traits coming out, and didn’t feel like my full self. Due to an ovarian issue. Whatever the case is, you are a masculine woman and you should love it and REP that. I have a couple close girl friends who are gay and they are wonderful examples for lesbians, they don’t believe in trans despite being as masculine as they are and that is just them. Same with my gay dude friends.

And another person I worked briefly with was a woman going through a sex change, got the change, and absolutely hated it. The person was extremely confused and went through hell. Major regrets.

I was learning about the hormones the other day and I think it might be interesting to mention..
Testosterone is formed out of a hormone that can also be formed into something else, which has to do with stress. The more stress the less testosterone is formed. In women testosterone is transformed by the ovaries into typical female hormones, needed for the monthly cycle or pregnancies. If there is a lot of stress, we were told in class, its because of this mechanism that the cycle stops.

In men testosterone is transformed by the testes into an active form of testosterone.

#14
Lunar Dance 666 wrote:
Sundara wrote:
HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

Please do refer to the reply by Academic Scholar, and after you are done with these introspective methods [which are 99% of the issues], then you might want to consider other things. Others have helped sufficiently in the comments, just take the wisdom.

And don't do reckless things on yourself please. The science is simply not there yet without severe costs associated with specific irreversible decisions. Just do what's best for yourself and health.

On the note of being in love with someone and accepting them no matter what, that’s definitely a thing I did with my ex when he lied to me and said he wanted to be a woman. When people love each other they look past a lot of things. Even though it’s not what I would’ve preferred. I looked at it like as if someone got into an accident and their dick fell off. I’d still be there. You work around it. That, in fact, is easier than loving someone who doesn’t accept themselves. And that’s what his claim of wanting to be a woman was, and it ended for a lot of good reasons. If someone doesn’t love themself enough, it’s almost impossible to be with them after a while. It causes a lot of toxic things things, including a cycle of lying because they can’t be honest with themselves even.

You could also have higher levels of testosterone and hormones that males have higher amounts of for whatever reason but the reason is not because you’re meant to be a male. It’s just a different build on a woman. When my testosterone was just a little higher I definitely noticed more masculine traits coming out, and didn’t feel like my full self. Due to an ovarian issue. Whatever the case is, you are a masculine woman and you should love it and REP that. I have a couple close girl friends who are gay and they are wonderful examples for lesbians, they don’t believe in trans despite being as masculine as they are and that is just them. Same with my gay dude friends.

And another person I worked briefly with was a woman going through a sex change, got the change, and absolutely hated it. The person was extremely confused and went through hell. Major regrets.

I was learning about the hormones the other day and I think it might be interesting to mention..
Testosterone is formed out of a hormone that can also be formed into something else, which has to do with stress. The more stress the less testosterone is formed. In women testosterone is transformed by the ovaries into typical female hormones, needed for the monthly cycle or pregnancies. If there is a lot of stress, we were told in class, its because of this mechanism that the cycle stops.

In men testosterone is transformed by the testes into an active form of testosterone.

That is interesting thanks for mentioning! The other form of testosterone can still have a similar effect, more facial hair and abrasive personality traits, different sex drive. Acne. Weight issues occasionally. I’ve been through it myself and it made me feel more numb, less emotional and more easily frustrated. I felt like my voice almost deepened, I didn’t get fat but I had a hard time losing the weight I wanted to. Got on a decent low mg birth control and I finally dropped under a weight I’ve been trying to get to for years. Worth looking into. I definitely FELT more masculine.

#15

Please, be careful with your emotions.. Listen to your inner voice. Meditate, stay relaxed while you think of yourself. Going into a deep trance can help you with your inner self. Yes, you can use also Runes like Wunjo, Ansuz or Uruz for removing blockages.. Try to do some of those method mentioned by the clergy. Just be sure you really know what you really want... Try to help yourself spiritually. There is a difference between wanting to become of the opposite sex for advantages or stereotypical behaviors and feeling you are it. Just do work on yourself, for knowing if you really are like that or it can be caused by other sort of things... Wunjo can help because Wunjo heals also the body and removes all the mental blockages. So, if you try to use Wunjo or some affirmation, after you finished the meditation.. listen how do you feel after this. Does this sensation persist? Has it gone away? Just listen to yourself... Only you can know yourself better than anyone, but for this we need to work on ourselves. Hope you feel better.. If you need help, we are here... I believe in you and as any other Zevists you don't have limits. Don't be limited by who you think you are, just be what you are naturally. just be sure it is natural and not caused by some issue. For doing this, as stated, it is good first to feel relaxed and do some spiritual works.. You can also ask to Satan for guidance. It is not necessary he will directly contact you. It can also be that during the time, you are more clear on yourself. Because Satan guides His sons and daughters... We are not here for saying what you are and what you are not, just be careful... Zevism is individual, so it is not our business. But health of other Zevists is our business... Hope you will find answers, whatever answer it is, just connected to your inner spiritual self and not conditioned by the outside... You are not alone anyway.. You are a special Zevism, or whatever you are, person. Just don't change yourself for others, but for yourself.. Focus on what is good for you with a spiritual guidance (during meditations or Gods/Satan guides) or anyway in a relaxed/rational state.. Blessings

Lunar Dance 666
#16
Sundara wrote:
Lunar Dance 666 wrote:
Sundara wrote:

On the note of being in love with someone and accepting them no matter what, that’s definitely a thing I did with my ex when he lied to me and said he wanted to be a woman. When people love each other they look past a lot of things. Even though it’s not what I would’ve preferred. I looked at it like as if someone got into an accident and their dick fell off. I’d still be there. You work around it. That, in fact, is easier than loving someone who doesn’t accept themselves. And that’s what his claim of wanting to be a woman was, and it ended for a lot of good reasons. If someone doesn’t love themself enough, it’s almost impossible to be with them after a while. It causes a lot of toxic things things, including a cycle of lying because they can’t be honest with themselves even.

You could also have higher levels of testosterone and hormones that males have higher amounts of for whatever reason but the reason is not because you’re meant to be a male. It’s just a different build on a woman. When my testosterone was just a little higher I definitely noticed more masculine traits coming out, and didn’t feel like my full self. Due to an ovarian issue. Whatever the case is, you are a masculine woman and you should love it and REP that. I have a couple close girl friends who are gay and they are wonderful examples for lesbians, they don’t believe in trans despite being as masculine as they are and that is just them. Same with my gay dude friends.

And another person I worked briefly with was a woman going through a sex change, got the change, and absolutely hated it. The person was extremely confused and went through hell. Major regrets.

I was learning about the hormones the other day and I think it might be interesting to mention..
Testosterone is formed out of a hormone that can also be formed into something else, which has to do with stress. The more stress the less testosterone is formed. In women testosterone is transformed by the ovaries into typical female hormones, needed for the monthly cycle or pregnancies. If there is a lot of stress, we were told in class, its because of this mechanism that the cycle stops.

In men testosterone is transformed by the testes into an active form of testosterone.

That is interesting thanks for mentioning! The other form of testosterone can still have a similar effect, more facial hair and abrasive personality traits, different sex drive. Acne. Weight issues occasionally. I’ve been through it myself and it made me feel more numb, less emotional and more easily frustrated. I felt like my voice almost deepened, I didn’t get fat but I had a hard time losing the weight I wanted to. Got on a decent low mg birth control and I finally dropped under a weight I’ve been trying to get to for years. Worth looking into. I definitely FELT more masculine.

If you're someone who does want children, taking the pill, especially for a long time, makes it hard if not almost impossible to get pregnant. Also your body will have a jard time getting a normal cycle again, once you stop.

#17
Meteor wrote:
Master wrote:

In the future we will have artificial wombs but these are not ideal for the offspring of free, emotional and beautiful beings that are humans. For asexual, ugly, degenerate, limited and emotionless slaves like the greys it is obviously ideal.

However, we have to create artificial wombs because we will need them for other purposes. They will be needed for different experiments and studies for humans and also for other life forms. For example, we will create and develop specimens of different animals and then put them where they can live and reproduce naturally.

It will be possible to reproduce two men and two women. In the case of two homosexual men, it will only be possible through an artificial womb; in the case of two homosexual women, it will also be possible to fertilise them in a rather unusual way... by taking two eggs and using one of them as an egg, while the other one only takes the genetic material and puts it into the other one. Of course, even in the case of two men, a different union of their genetic material will have to be made from the male and female union to create the embryo and place it in the artificial womb.

Renting out one's womb for the embryos of others is not a good idea for two reasons. First, pregnancy is not a walk in the park and it is an intimate and private thing. Second, it is deep and connected. Biological mothers form special connections with their children. A man is also connected to his woman and children.

The above demonstrates why many women who rent out their wombs for money find it difficult to separate themselves from other people's children as they grow and give birth.

I agree with Aquarius that children need both a father and a mother and not a fake or even absent father and mother as in the case of the greys.

Affection can be created with anyone but it is wrong to reject one's sex or body from wrong perceptions and expectations. When we are more advanced we will know more about how sex is determined in the fetus and much more, it will also be possible to change sex if necessary but for now this is not possible, you can only ruin your genitals and your body.

I tried replying to you yesterday, but that doesn't seem to have gone through. That's fine with me since what I wrote was just some nonsensical, sleepy rambling about my inability to make sense of some ethical dilemmas, but I'd still like to reply to you properly.

In particular, I wanted to ask you: for people who heavily prefer partners of the same sex but also have a strong child wish, what do you think is the "right" course of action? I can think of some examples of "solutions", but all of them seem rather flawed to me.

  1. Repressing the child wish.

  2. Looking for a way to change their sexual preferences and orientation.

  3. Having and raising children with an undesirable partner of the opposite sex.

  4. Looking for another outlet to satisfy their child wish without actually having children.

  5. Having children with someone of the same sex artificially with the help of medical and/or technological advancements.

  6. Changing their sex completely (if it were possible) in order to have children with someone who was previously of the same sex.

I know it's not a very important topic as it doesn't apply to many people, and it may well be an unsolvable problem; but sometimes when people like the person who posted this thread open up about their feelings, it makes me wonder if there isn't some kind of convenient solution that is being overlooked. There was a guy who asked about it back in January too (if there can be a way for him to have children even if he's not sexually attracted to people of the opposite sex), and he was told that he shouldn't dwell too much on things that aren't possible and that gays shouldn't raise children.

I used to think that sometimes suffering is simply unavoidable in life and that people should just try to make the best of a bad situation. But lately I've started to think a bit differently: that suffering can be avoided and that every problem can be overcome, and that you just need to figure out how; that there is always a positive way to deal with any situation.

But hearing about issues like this makes me wonder whether or not that is really the case. Can everything really be solved if you simply know what to do? Or are there problems that truly can't be overcome, that will stay with someone for the rest of their existence? Issues that can only be coped with, not truly solved?

In the end questions like this don't really matter that much, as time forces people into action or inaction, and there's not always time to consider everything, leading people to simply do whatever they see fit in the moment based on all sorts of whimsical reasons. Unfortunately, this can lead to all sort of rash decisions, and in some cases even suicide; all because people don't know better.

Regardless, if you have any thoughts on this topic, I would be interested in hearing them as your perspective might satisfy me intellectually. But if it's not very interesting to you or the topic is too complicated, then I understand and you don't have to reply.

On a side note, the same question might also apply to heterosexual men and women who are infertile, for example due to a subtle intersex condition that affects hormone regulation or causes chromosomal problems. I wonder how they cope with it?
I still like to think that there exists a better solution out there than simply coping with things, that you can truly overcome such things if you're creative and determined enough; but not everyone is capable of something like that, and it also depends on the specific circumstances. It may still be insightful to see how people usually deal with such situations.

1. Repressing the desire for procreation does not solve the problem because in this way you do not go to the root of the problem.

2. Definitely yes, in a safe and effective way but not against their will.

3. Even that doesn't solve the problem, but it's better than pretending to be something you're not.

4. This is senseless and leads nowhere.

5. As I said above, this is possible but not the best thing to do.

6. Yes if necessary.

LGBT is not a diversification of human sexuality. Just look at where this leads, it seems like a movement invented by grays, but it is not. The enemy is also involved in this and therefore its influence of degeneration and enslavement is also present. However, this movement arose mainly from the incorrect impulses and feelings of some people, due to their hormonal condition, unawareness about their own biology and physiology and worst of all, their self-repression of logic.

They are trying to abolish the meanings and values of father and mother. What education will these people give their children? What is the next thing? Considering that these people's sexuality is the worst imaginable, they may as well do without and then they can remove sex. It is clear where this leads and I have to say that the grays cannot be followed any further than this.

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Master wrote:

LGBs are deluded.


L’s certainly are. G’s kind of. There is no reason you shouldn’t like women as well a strictly homosexual lifestyle is very unfulfilling knowing that you can never have children or a real long term relationship and connection because most homos aren’t into that.

Please read this medical article on anal sex and then tell me if it is a safe and healthy sexuality.

Not all gay sexuality has to be Anal there’s “sides” meaning people that don’t enjoy it either way. If men were hermaphrodites I’m certain Anal sex would become irrelevant immediately. It’s not like people woke up and decided that they wanted to stab or be stabbed in the aperture that feces come from it’s just literally the only thing available. I largely agree with the article I could never be on the receiving end it’s just too much for a number of reasons.

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Master wrote:

One of the worst things about these people's sexuality is anal sex.

So what this article is saying is that it's unsafe to have sex with people who have illnesses, and that if you have daily anal sex you should do kegels(which one should do anyways).
I'm not sure you know about the prostate and that men can stimulate it for orgasms that are x times higher than a regular penis orgasm.

I don't see the point of negatively talking about oral and anal sex? Maybe some leftovers of christianity in your mind?

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Aquarius wrote:
Master wrote:

One of the worst things about these people's sexuality is anal sex.

So what this article is saying is that it's unsafe to have sex with people who have illnesses, and that if you have daily anal sex you should do kegels(which one should do anyways).
I'm not sure you know about the prostate and that men can stimulate it for orgasms that are x times higher than a regular penis orgasm.

I don't see the point of negatively talking about oral and anal sex? Maybe some leftovers of christianity in your mind?

It is not about christian limitation and lies but more study and understanding. Oral sex is quite safe but one must be careful of infections because it is possible to pass from mouth and throat to genitals and vice versa. Obviously, contact between vagina and penis also carries risks if there are diseases but anal sex is another thing entirely.

I'm aware of the prostate but it seems like you didn't read the article very well because it's not just about what you highlighted but there's a lot more to it.

For example, it's not just the cases where you have diseases to then be transmitted that are dangerous. But it is very dangerous if lacerations or perforations occur during anal penetration. This can happen because the anus does not have the characteristics of the vagina. The vagina can self-lubricate, dilate and its internal tissue is thicker than the anus. This is because the vagina is designed and specialized to accommodate the penis. The anus is specialized for other purposes and functions but not for sex.