Helping people break free of the enemy more info: The inner False person

slyscorpion wrote:

The enemy energies such as christian energies and thoughtforms and curses and even astral mind control in some cases creates a false person that does not exist in reality but takes over the individual. I call this the false ego or false inner self. This is like a thoughtform in and of itself.

Why I felt the desire to share this with people is I recently saw something and I know some people promoting christianity are aware of the occult and using it against people. So in seeing this I am guessing others know about it too at least some so I should share to people that don't.

The person you see on here is an exact representation of what I saw this false inner self look like. The colors and look is the same. This individual often seems to be holding flowers or something indicating they are happy it is an illusion in a way to being clueless however this is like a thoughtform. It fragments and removes the person that exists and replaces it with the control personality. This is sometimes referred to as a "controlled personality".

The true personality of the person and true self is then sometimes "pushed out" of the body and often projected onto others and in what a person attracts to themselves in this case it may be possible to save someone. However in some cases the true person ceases to exist at all and all that exists is the controlled personality or false ego.

If a person is open to the astral they can interact with the true self and the false ego if they like. Your goal if you can see this stuff is to destroy it the thoughtform for one inhabiting the individual. Secondly the layer of energy that is the "barrier" or false perception. This has a strange feel to it as well. It is like a field of consciousness around the person that locks out their ability to understand higher things. This often is associated with energy that is pale rainbow like colors kind of fake and pastel.

Dissolving the ego meditations the new age teaches are dangerous. Often people that go into that belief system are not fully deprogrammed from christianity even if they don't like it or don't like the word "Jesus" or any of that and think this is a belief system they can break free in. Well some of the meditations they use allow this false self to take over even more than when they were christians. They can become an empty shell that is robotic and doesn't feel emotions at all in the extreme where the false ego controls them. Same with stuff in some of the enemy and hebrew occult systems that unfortunately some gentiles sometimes get into. This actually makes their situation far worse.

If this is you. It is very likely you are not going to be able to pick up on this "false ego" in yourself or these barriers or any of that it may not even be possible too. I am not sure on this one cause these things block your perception. Your best bet is finding someone who can see these things and have them check out your soul for it. Even if you can pick up on them in other people you may not be able to in yourself.

The step is to deprogram from what created the inner false ego. In talking to people you can figure it out often. Doing a freeing the soul for that person that is the main offender or the influence that is going on. Just be aware if mind control is going on you have a whole different dimension to this and it will take a lot more patience and work but I don't believe it has to be going on for the "controlled personality" to exist. You have to remove the energy or thoughtforms creating this as well as destroy the main false ego to free yourself or others.

This thoughtform can be seen dancing sometimes or doing actions that indicate cluelessness or happiness. In the same hand as what I see above is where the flowers were held when I saw it. This guy is aware of the occult in some ways I know cause I used to listen to this I remember some lyrics. He uses a lot of enemy occult stuff and makes reference to aliens Saturn etc. I won't link to any of it unless someone asks what I am talking about. This was one of the ones I liked when I was still christian.

I used to like the song "Invincible". Then, I looked into the band and saw they were christians and they even proclaimed themselves to be so (and very proudly).

Wow, I wasn't aware they knew anything about the occult. I thought christian bands were just stupid people. That image looks disturbing in a way.

So, in short, how do I kill the false ego? Is the freeing the soul working enough?

Removing all the causes for its appearance sounds complicated if working on other people.

Hope I am understanding this correctly.

Adhiti666 wrote:

I used to like the song "Invincible". Then, I looked into the band and saw they were christians and they even proclaimed themselves to be so (and very proudly).

Wow, I wasn't aware they knew anything about the occult. I thought christian bands were just stupid people. That image looks disturbing in a way.

So, in short, how do I kill the false ego? Is the freeing the soul working enough?

Removing all the causes for its appearance sounds complicated if working on other people.

Hope I am understanding this correctly.

Idk they certainly use a lot of occult imagery in stuff so I kind of think they do just like chevelle however that band isn't as overtly christian. Want to see something creepy.

https://www.lyrics.com/lyric/4965720/Skillet/Alien+Youth

This was the most creepy christian song in both energy and lyrics ever. The energy of this band gives me the creeps.

Ok anyways back to the point. Do you have one of these type things. I became aware that some people think this "false ego" thing is their inner child or inner self and talk to it even. Well You can try Rituals into it or try to program it to destroy itself. That part I have not totally figured out. Removing energy and influence of who programmed you to be what is the false ego destroys it slowly.

slyscorpion wrote:

Adhiti666 wrote:

I used to like the song "Invincible". Then, I looked into the band and saw they were christians and they even proclaimed themselves to be so (and very proudly).

Wow, I wasn't aware they knew anything about the occult. I thought christian bands were just stupid people. That image looks disturbing in a way.

So, in short, how do I kill the false ego? Is the freeing the soul working enough?

Removing all the causes for its appearance sounds complicated if working on other people.

Hope I am understanding this correctly.

Idk they certainly use a lot of occult imagery in stuff so I kind of think they do just like chevelle however that band isn't as overtly christian. Want to see something creepy.

https://www.lyrics.com/lyric/4965720/Skillet/Alien+Youth

This was the most creepy christian song in both energy and lyrics ever. The energy of this band gives me the creeps.

Ok anyways back to the point. Do you have one of these type things. I became aware that some people think this "false ego" thing is their inner child or inner self and talk to it even. Well You can try Rituals into it or try to program it to destroy itself. That part I have not totally figured out. Removing energy and influence of who programmed you to be what is the false ego destroys it slowly.

I partly wanted peoples experience with this on here if anyone can figure out how to more quickly destroy this cool. Freeing the soul yeah but you have to know what or who caused it for that to work. If you don't that will be a process that will take years. Thats why i wanted to know if you could more directly attack or destroy this somehow.

slyscorpion wrote:

Ok anyways back to the point. Do you have one of these type things. I became aware that some people think this "false ego" thing is their inner child or inner self and talk to it even. Well You can try Rituals into it or try to program it to destroy itself. That part I have not totally figured out. Removing energy and influence of who programmed you to be what is the false ego destroys it slowly.

I read your reply and jumped to this thread.
I will express some facts that I just discovered about this "false ego" and childhood emotions / abuses and so on in this thread as it somehow completes my experience with vampire and destroyed life.
Hope this helps other fellows in Satan to recover, in case needed.
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=64400Full site ↗

Engineered Trasformation wrote:

slyscorpion wrote:

Ok anyways back to the point. Do you have one of these type things. I became aware that some people think this "false ego" thing is their inner child or inner self and talk to it even. Well You can try Rituals into it or try to program it to destroy itself. That part I have not totally figured out. Removing energy and influence of who programmed you to be what is the false ego destroys it slowly.

I read your reply and jumped to this thread.
I will express some facts that I just discovered about this "false ego" and childhood emotions / abuses and so on in this thread as it somehow completes my experience with vampire and destroyed life.
Hope this helps other fellows in Satan to recover, in case needed.
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=64400Full site ↗

Ok you actually made more sense of this whole thing. This can be caused by childhood trauma as well or things dealing with that. The problem is to convince people this is bad. Those that are aware of this thing. I got in the band I was talking about kind of a vibe of pedophilia. Interesting enough I wanted to share a little on this. About 2010 I found one of his songs somewhere. I listened to it and its energy made me realize something had taken place when I was younger but I was having trouble pulling this back so I listened a bunch of times. Never could pull back that memory till later but I was like this is super familiar yet bad. I knew the energies was of something really bad. I never had that inner child thing myself or got that taken over by any thoughtform. People will have to be reminded if they have someone they talk to who looks like the image above (that's probably what this is about) and they refer to as inner child or inner self or something that this is bad they want to destroy this not listen to it or have some kind of relationship with it.

slyscorpion wrote:

Engineered Trasformation wrote:

slyscorpion wrote:

Ok anyways back to the point. Do you have one of these type things. I became aware that some people think this "false ego" thing is their inner child or inner self and talk to it even. Well You can try Rituals into it or try to program it to destroy itself. That part I have not totally figured out. Removing energy and influence of who programmed you to be what is the false ego destroys it slowly.

I read your reply and jumped to this thread.
I will express some facts that I just discovered about this "false ego" and childhood emotions / abuses and so on in this thread as it somehow completes my experience with vampire and destroyed life.
Hope this helps other fellows in Satan to recover, in case needed.
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=64400Full site ↗

Ok you actually made more sense of this whole thing. This can be caused by childhood trauma as well or things dealing with that. The problem is to convince people this is bad. Those that are aware of this thing. I got in the band I was talking about kind of a vibe of pedophilia. Interesting enough I wanted to share a little on this. About 2010 I found one of his songs somewhere. I listened to it and its energy made me realize something had taken place when I was younger but I was having trouble pulling this back so I listened a bunch of times. Never could pull back that memory till later but I was like this is super familiar yet bad. I knew the energies was of something really bad. I never had that inner child thing myself or got that taken over by any thoughtform. People will have to be reminded if they have someone they talk to who looks like the image above (that's probably what this is about) and they refer to as inner child or inner self or something that this is bad they want to destroy this not listen to it or have some kind of relationship with it.

But too add on to what I say this is really common apparently and christianity takes advantage of this or ties one into it. I am not sure this thing can exist without christian energies or in some way being tied to christianity. That is why it didn't show up in me I always kind of despised that religion no matter how much it was shoved on me. The only time I ever for a short time believed it was when I was surrounded by these energies but I still escaped even around those energies and didn't like it much. I don't think this absolutely has to be sexual abuse that causes this though. I think I understand this whole thing better now. I will be able to now identify people that likely have this problem at least in person not sure I could do that through writing the vampires are one of them interesting enough.

Well the people doing this vampire thing (I only talked about the worst vampire here this is from both sides) suffer from this too. It is being imposed on me in a way. I am a really strong person I don't believe though from memories of my past life I ever accepted the idea of being "grown up" like today's world is as I don't want to just be a robotic person like many are today. Half the problem is that parents and schools just teach children to just fit into the current system and not think for themselves. It's like church in a way (I have to bring this up as that was one of the big things this thoughtform pushed in my girlfriend so I am used to countering this I am trying to help her be herself and free I am not sure if this is a widespread theme or not but if so this is terminology that may undermine fixing this by encouraging someone to listen to the thought form) Mature that is different the people who suffer this are not mature at all I think this is what you are referring too they have the maturity and mental level of a 5 year old. If it wasn't for the conforming thing and christianity it would be much easier to reach them.

The lucky is this never ended up as bad with my girlfriend as the vampire I am dealing with. This since it wasn't her original mental state from childhood but was imposed on her in her 20s will probably just be something she snaps out of suddenly.

Me personally I think I suffer some things from this abuse that happened to me and this is why I got into drugs and had so many issues with feeling burdened by my past etc. Not all of it was bad. I actually had fun sometimes. As an actual child I was better off than I am now to be honest cause the memory was repressed then most my childhood after the event.

So far as if anything else happened. Maybe in the astral I keep getting stuff sometimes that the vampire (my dad) is a pedophile and stuff about "I am a victim" projected on me. But I have no memory of them doing any of this stuff to me.

However some of the mind control messages are highly disturbing when I figured out the thought process behind this. I can say they had serious mental issues and I would not be surprised if they did something too like this.

Engineered Trasformation wrote:

Since I do not know how to post this without the whole thing showing up in the quote I posted it above and I am quoting you here so you see I replied.

I just want to add, I do not feel this "inner child" is a false self.
It may be, the false self developed after the emotions freezed at - let's say - 5 years old. So the affected person could never develop his/her true self, but followed what the abuser/vampire commanded him/her to be.
Still studying on this, those are just my feelings at now.

Engineered Trasformation wrote:

I just want to add, I do not feel this "inner child" is a false self.
It may be, the false self developed after the emotions freezed at - let's say - 5 years old. So the affected person could never develop his/her true self, but followed what the abuser/vampire commanded him/her to be.
Still studying on this, those are just my feelings at now.

It's something that needs to be figured out for sure since like you said it seem to effect so many in society. It may be the vampire is artificially creating more problems than existed though with my girlfriend. The problem is this is making her associate a lot of stuff I liked about her with her traumas and past things as well as in her subconscious associate me with that so that she only listens to the vampire not me. This is a line of thinking I figured out. So I would be fucked at least so far as my relationship with her without this destruction ritual thing anyways. I will explain all this to her when it's done.

Well so far as greater society this stuff should be figured out. If this is not something totally fixable at the very least we should take away the blindly conforming stuff and enemy things with it and help the people feel better.

slyscorpion wrote:

Engineered Trasformation wrote:

I just want to add, I do not feel this "inner child" is a false self.
It may be, the false self developed after the emotions freezed at - let's say - 5 years old. So the affected person could never develop his/her true self, but followed what the abuser/vampire commanded him/her to be.
Still studying on this, those are just my feelings at now.

It's something that needs to be figured out for sure since like you said it seem to effect so many in society. It may be the vampire is artificially creating more problems than existed though with my girlfriend. The problem is this is making her associate a lot of stuff I liked about her with her traumas and past things as well as in her subconscious associate me with that so that she only listens to the vampire not me. This is a line of thinking I figured out. So I would be fucked at least so far as my relationship with her without this destruction ritual thing anyways. I will explain all this to her when it's done.

Well so far as greater society this stuff should be figured out. If this is not something totally fixable at the very least we should take away the blindly conforming stuff and enemy things with it and help the people feel better.

I still honestly believe though if one gets to the root trauma event or root person that influenced them to be this way or accept christianity that this thoughtform can be destroyed and this will fix the person. With freeing the soul and healing. Acting childish or whatever who am I to judge. If this is ingrained for a long time the person will probably keep this as their true self especially if they are above a certain age. As long as they are functioning and not into christianity or enemy things they are ok. I believe age of Aquarius we won't have such a ridged social system where everyone has to be the same.

I repeat I think this is part of the problem with the conforming and christianity thing. These people are not accepted and the child like thing begs them to conform so they don't get hurt even more. I say fuck that. We don't need to be "soulless empty robots" and all the same.

Engineered Trasformation wrote:

I just want to add, I do not feel this "inner child" is a false self.
It may be, the false self developed after the emotions freezed at - let's say - 5 years old. So the affected person could never develop his/her true self, but followed what the abuser/vampire commanded him/her to be.
Still studying on this, those are just my feelings at now.

With meditating also people can become more in control of their emotional states and learn more healthy patterns of emotions. I think some control complex goes along with this whole thing. Every person who has this issue I met (several in my lifetime) has had some area they seem to completely want to control people in. Part of this might be a need to let go of always being in control. It would be interesting to know how many of these people have Pluto square their sun or ascendant.

Honestly Pluto square Sun to me screams a really bad person you have to watch out for along with sometimes Pluto square Saturn and definitely Pluto Square Mars these types of influences in non spiritual people don't seem likely to end well.

A person I had the misfortune of dealing with
https://youtu.be/UyOya5SHZ2o
He had Saturn square Pluto and Mars opposite Pluto and don't want to go into the whole story but this is what he ended up doing.

I know I told you personally about that incident but didn't post much to the groups about it anyways. Some of these mental states and this all these spiritual attacks lead to ending up with the totally wrong kind of people. I suspect the vampire had something to do with this.

slyscorpion wrote:

I know I told you personally about that incident but didn't post much to the groups about it anyways. Some of these mental states and this all these spiritual attacks lead to ending up with the totally wrong kind of people. I suspect the vampire had something to do with this.

Definitely we are addressing a very relevant problem here, that of controlled minds through childhood traumas and/or psychic vampires' deep links. Most often I see both facts walk together in parallel.

I have also experienced being attracted to negative people; I have also been attracted to negative facts (like illness, accidents, etc.). The best I can explain, is that negative energies ammassed in my aura or inside it, at chakra's level, and attracted negative facts. Sort of a curse maybe.
I see, the vampire in my case is the bringer of negativity, as it enacts as a bridge through christianity and myself.

Regarding childish behaviour, I agree with you. Nothing wrong if a person remains emotionally immature, provided this is NOT causing his mind to be controlled by what he perceives as an "adult" commanding him/her. I have experienced on myself how the mind can be led to consider a person as father/mother for similar characteristics, events, colours... etc and being mentally subdued, so to respond to commands.

I also see this kind of problems are arising in the forum, possibly we need to break free in those years. I see Pluto is now completing his transit into Capricorn, this may have to do with restructuring authority.

slyscorpion wrote:

Adhiti666 wrote:

I used to like the song "Invincible". Then, I looked into the band and saw they were christians and they even proclaimed themselves to be so (and very proudly).

Wow, I wasn't aware they knew anything about the occult. I thought christian bands were just stupid people. That image looks disturbing in a way.

So, in short, how do I kill the false ego? Is the freeing the soul working enough?

Removing all the causes for its appearance sounds complicated if working on other people.

Hope I am understanding this correctly.

Idk they certainly use a lot of occult imagery in stuff so I kind of think they do just like chevelle however that band isn't as overtly christian. Want to see something creepy.

https://www.lyrics.com/lyric/4965720/Skillet/Alien+Youth

This was the most creepy christian song in both energy and lyrics ever. The energy of this band gives me the creeps.

Ok anyways back to the point. Do you have one of these type things. I became aware that some people think this "false ego" thing is their inner child or inner self and talk to it even. Well You can try Rituals into it or try to program it to destroy itself. That part I have not totally figured out. Removing energy and influence of who programmed you to be what is the false ego destroys it slowly.

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Sorry I answer late.

I don't think I have this. I just fear I may have had it. Maybe I did not, idk. I never saw anything. It's just this kind of things is related to trauma. I remember clicking at those videos about "healing your inner child" too. Idk, I may have had other things attached, probably.

The Ritual most likely destroyed them though.

I read a little of the lyrics and got the idea. Their song "Monster" is creepy too. I am not watching or listening that rubbish again.

Adhiti666 wrote:

slyscorpion wrote:

Adhiti666 wrote:

I used to like the song "Invincible". Then, I looked into the band and saw they were christians and they even proclaimed themselves to be so (and very proudly).

Wow, I wasn't aware they knew anything about the occult. I thought christian bands were just stupid people. That image looks disturbing in a way.

So, in short, how do I kill the false ego? Is the freeing the soul working enough?

Removing all the causes for its appearance sounds complicated if working on other people.

Hope I am understanding this correctly.

Idk they certainly use a lot of occult imagery in stuff so I kind of think they do just like chevelle however that band isn't as overtly christian. Want to see something creepy.

https://www.lyrics.com/lyric/4965720/Skillet/Alien+Youth

This was the most creepy christian song in both energy and lyrics ever. The energy of this band gives me the creeps.

Ok anyways back to the point. Do you have one of these type things. I became aware that some people think this "false ego" thing is their inner child or inner self and talk to it even. Well You can try Rituals into it or try to program it to destroy itself. That part I have not totally figured out. Removing energy and influence of who programmed you to be what is the false ego destroys it slowly.

`
Sorry I answer late.

I don't think I have this. I just fear I may have had it. Maybe I did not, idk. I never saw anything. It's just this kind of things is related to trauma. I remember clicking at those videos about "healing your inner child" too. Idk, I may have had other things attached, probably.

The Ritual most likely destroyed them though.

I read a little of the lyrics and got the idea. Their song "Monster" is creepy too. I am not watching or listening that rubbish again.

If you do the Rituals and have been cleaning this energy from your soul this will go away on its own. The problem is people unaware or not wanting to fix it for some reason not those actively working on this.
All of this stuff straight up is creepy. I agree. It is possible to go to the point of no return with this though where your not able to help yourself out of it and either someone or one of the Gods will have to help you before you become aware. That is if you internalize what some christian person forced you to be like or manipulated you into and their beliefs. This may take months to over a year of helping someone out of in the worst case.

slyscorpion wrote:

Adhiti666 wrote:

slyscorpion wrote:

Idk they certainly use a lot of occult imagery in stuff so I kind of think they do just like chevelle however that band isn't as overtly christian. Want to see something creepy.

https://www.lyrics.com/lyric/4965720/Skillet/Alien+Youth

This was the most creepy christian song in both energy and lyrics ever. The energy of this band gives me the creeps.

Ok anyways back to the point. Do you have one of these type things. I became aware that some people think this "false ego" thing is their inner child or inner self and talk to it even. Well You can try Rituals into it or try to program it to destroy itself. That part I have not totally figured out. Removing energy and influence of who programmed you to be what is the false ego destroys it slowly.

`
Sorry I answer late.

I don't think I have this. I just fear I may have had it. Maybe I did not, idk. I never saw anything. It's just this kind of things is related to trauma. I remember clicking at those videos about "healing your inner child" too. Idk, I may have had other things attached, probably.

The Ritual most likely destroyed them though.

I read a little of the lyrics and got the idea. Their song "Monster" is creepy too. I am not watching or listening that rubbish again.

If you do the Rituals and have been cleaning this energy from your soul this will go away on its own. The problem is people unaware or not wanting to fix it for some reason not those actively working on this.
All of this stuff straight up is creepy. I agree. It is possible to go to the point of no return with this though where your not able to help yourself out of it and either someone or one of the Gods will have to help you before you become aware. That is if you internalize what some christian person forced you to be like or manipulated you into and their beliefs. This may take months to over a year of helping someone out of in the worst case.

Giving an example my girlfriend the energy I took out of her so far is straight up creepy. Kind of a weird dirty in a weird way plastic fake feel to it the color is purple green black and pink. It has a lot of fear energy in it and kind of a middle ages vibe. I think she was not going to get out of this on her own.

However false ego is almost destroyed now just a tiny bit left and her energy is cleaner she is acting more like herself.

slyscorpion wrote:

slyscorpion wrote:

Adhiti666 wrote:

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Sorry I answer late.

I don't think I have this. I just fear I may have had it. Maybe I did not, idk. I never saw anything. It's just this kind of things is related to trauma. I remember clicking at those videos about "healing your inner child" too. Idk, I may have had other things attached, probably.

The Ritual most likely destroyed them though.

I read a little of the lyrics and got the idea. Their song "Monster" is creepy too. I am not watching or listening that rubbish again.

If you do the Rituals and have been cleaning this energy from your soul this will go away on its own. The problem is people unaware or not wanting to fix it for some reason not those actively working on this.
All of this stuff straight up is creepy. I agree. It is possible to go to the point of no return with this though where your not able to help yourself out of it and either someone or one of the Gods will have to help you before you become aware. That is if you internalize what some christian person forced you to be like or manipulated you into and their beliefs. This may take months to over a year of helping someone out of in the worst case.

Giving an example my girlfriend the energy I took out of her so far is straight up creepy. Kind of a weird dirty in a weird way plastic fake feel to it the color is purple green black and pink. It has a lot of fear energy in it and kind of a middle ages vibe. I think she was not going to get out of this on her own.

However false ego is almost destroyed now just a tiny bit left and her energy is cleaner she is acting more like herself.

From what I have found the dirty green energy that feels cold and dense is quite difficult to clean with mantras like Surya or Visudhi and blue fire does not work either, but I discovered that is easy to eliminate it by evoking the fire element or with mantras directly based on fire like Agni.