When i start doing meditation
I start moving back & forth, left & right.
Banishing works only for few minutes. Is it entity attachment ?
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Obviously, it is.
You can do the working to free your soul. Here is the link:
https://mega.nz/folder/RWoQ2AIY#j-gcGgdRi1Tqps4SdrWqdw
(This folder does not belong to me.)
Check the Satan's Magickal Squares. Sun Square is the suitable one for protection.
check these links:
https://templeofzeus.org/Returning_Curses.php
https://templeofzeus.org/Returning_Curses2.php
Lastly, I'm sure you know the importance of doing AoP, Aura Cleaning and the Final Ritual daily to be protected. Do the best you can and stay safe!
furious flame wrote: When i start doing meditation
I start moving back & forth, left & right.
Banishing works only for few minutes. Is it entity attachment ?
Moving like on your own, or moving like something is pushing you?
Are you sure it is not yourself if you have done multiple banishing rituals already? Are you normally a more mobile person?
You have to look at other symptoms to know if it's related to an entity or not.
Do you have thoughts that are not your own seem forced into you or even voices you hear.
Anxiety and feelings of dread.
Feeling like someone is there or watching you.
Thoughts related to enemy stuff.
If not then it may not be an entity.
How long have you been meditating? Do you get any other symptoms when this happens? Because I have experienced this when doing the final Ritual in the past and I came to understand it's the energies of the soul getting freed. Other Zevists have experienced it as well.
what you are describing is what the enemy does when they are praying. They swing side to side, up and down, and look like they are humping the dry air.
are you able to sit still without fiddling around for long terms of time? if not, then perhaps it is a habit youve developed over time, in fact many develop it from being bored in school and stuck at their desk.Work your way out of the habit by developing your own custom micro steps to successively get you closer to achieving your desired behavioral outcome. For example, see if you can hold an object in your hand while keeping it still for 5 minutes. Then when you get good move to 10 minutes. Then try something more complex, and so on, until you can sit still on your own.
furious flame wrote: When i start doing meditation
I start moving back & forth, left & right.
Banishing works only for few minutes. Is it entity attachment ?
Rocking back and forth can be a symptom of kundalini awakening, and anxiety. Whenever I’m dealing with something negative like a feeling or strange happenings the very last thing I’d ever blame it on is an “enemy entity” or any kind of outer force because this can take away from any actual resolvable issue. Or make something that’s not even an issue an issue. Negative emotions in general are something that’s released during meditation and can cause negative imagery but that’s all it is and that’s all it’ll ever be. On a spiritual and mental level it’s wisest to just disregard the existence of these things entirely, imo.
Active Helperfurious flame wrote: When i start doing meditation
I start moving back & forth, left & right.
Banishing works only for few minutes. Is it entity attachment ?
Do not listen to people who try to scare you. This motion is entirely normal and natural. It is a sign that energy pathways in your body are becoming unblocked, and that the energy is starting to flow through your nadis. Every one of us who does the meditations and Rituals, we have all felt this.
So I don't understand why some people who have been here for a long time are acting like it is not normal, they have felt the same thing many times.
Black Dragon is right.
Ol argedco luciftias wrote: furious flame wrote: When i start doing meditation
I start moving back & forth, left & right.
Banishing works only for few minutes. Is it entity attachment ?Do not listen to people who try to scare you. This motion is entirely normal and natural. It is a sign that energy pathways in your body are becoming unblocked, and that the energy is starting to flow through your nadis. Every one of us who does the meditations and Rituals, we have all felt this.
So I don't understand why some people who have been here for a long time are acting like it is not normal, they have felt the same thing many times.
Hey ol argedco, I have a question, what you say is very true, however when I read this post by the OP I about near spilt the tea. Because what he said is exactly what I go through on a daily basis and I’ve never talked about it on the forums. But it’s totally different than what you described which is totally normal. Where the energy is flowing. I’ve experienced that for many years. I know what that is. For my personal experience, I’m advanced enough to know 100% sure it’s an enemy attachment and it’s exactly as the OP described. I can do a banishing but only works for a bit.
Honestly I might make a post about it. I’ve been dealing with it for almost 3 years. I’ve tried summoning demons for help, doing banishing for months, using stones, asking our Priesthood privately for advice. Three years. Nothing has helped. I’m at my wits end. I just figured it wasn’t worth bringing up here if after talking to our priesthood and doing demon summoning didn’t work. I figure what can anyone else say. But I genuinely am afraid and don’t know what to do. Maybe I will make a thread about it. What I’m really looking for are techniques for a banishing that aren’t on the ToZ. Cause I’ve tried everything on the ToZ for years and it hasn’t helped. From what I can tell I haven’t seen anyone experience anything like this
Until I read the OPs post. Even Cobra told me he had no advice for me. It’s quite worrying..
When I say I’m searching for techniques not on the ToZ, I don’t mean I want something from other sources. I know the ToZ has the best stuff. What I mean is I know our gods give info to our people that isn’t on the ToZ but still comes from our gods. Since this started three years ago, I can’t communicate with the gods. I’ve tried desperately. Even on Beltane when communication was supposedly ruled by our gods. I tried so much to communicate and nothing.. it really feels like I’ve tried everything that I can. Don’t know what else to do?
Eric13 wrote: .......
You are not describing what is actually happening with you. What are the symptoms? What are the effects?
Eric13 wrote: Ol argedco luciftias wrote: furious flame wrote: When i start doing meditation
I start moving back & forth, left & right.
Banishing works only for few minutes. Is it entity attachment ?Do not listen to people who try to scare you. This motion is entirely normal and natural. It is a sign that energy pathways in your body are becoming unblocked, and that the energy is starting to flow through your nadis. Every one of us who does the meditations and Rituals, we have all felt this.
So I don't understand why some people who have been here for a long time are acting like it is not normal, they have felt the same thing many times.
Hey ol argedco, I have a question, what you say is very true, however when I read this post by the OP I about near spilt the tea. Because what he said is exactly what I go through on a daily basis and I’ve never talked about it on the forums. But it’s totally different than what you described which is totally normal. Where the energy is flowing. I’ve experienced that for many years. I know what that is. For my personal experience, I’m advanced enough to know 100% sure it’s an enemy attachment and it’s exactly as the OP described. I can do a banishing but only works for a bit.
Honestly I might make a post about it. I’ve been dealing with it for almost 3 years. I’ve tried summoning demons for help, doing banishing for months, using stones, asking our Priesthood privately for advice. Three years. Nothing has helped. I’m at my wits end. I just figured it wasn’t worth bringing up here if after talking to our priesthood and doing demon summoning didn’t work. I figure what can anyone else say. But I genuinely am afraid and don’t know what to do. Maybe I will make a thread about it. What I’m really looking for are techniques for a banishing that aren’t on the ToZ. Cause I’ve tried everything on the ToZ for years and it hasn’t helped. From what I can tell I haven’t seen anyone experience anything like this
Until I read the OPs post. Even Cobra told me he had no advice for me. It’s quite worrying..When I say I’m searching for techniques not on the ToZ, I don’t mean I want something from other sources. I know the ToZ has the best stuff. What I mean is I know our gods give info to our people that isn’t on the ToZ but still comes from our gods. Since this started three years ago, I can’t communicate with the gods. I’ve tried desperately. Even on Beltane when communication was supposedly ruled by our gods. I tried so much to communicate and nothing.. it really feels like I’ve tried everything that I can. Don’t know what else to do?
Hi Brother, since from the number of your posts that you have I guess you are doing Power Meditations for a long time( meaning you have power). Since you have tryed evereything, and not even the Gods helped you, could it be perhaps that trough enemy manipulation you created a thoughtform that is harassing you? (like you started to belive that there is something/someone hindering you(trough enemy manipulation) and then you made it alive, and ever since then you have been feeding it subconciously and conciously).
I am fairly new and I still can't communicate to the Gods, but when I read your post this was the first thing that fell to my mind and that I really felt inclined to write.
If this is not the case and it is something else, Satanic blessings onto you Brother and I hope you are able to deal with it!
Hail Father Zeus!
Hail Mother Lilith!
Hail Teacher!
Hail Guardian!
Ol argedco luciftias wrote: Eric13 wrote: .......
You are not describing what is actually happening with you. What are the symptoms? What are the effects?
Yeah I’m gonna make a thread on it.
F_For_Flamingo wrote: Hi Brother, since from the number of your posts that you have I guess you are doing Power Meditations for a long time( meaning you have power). Since you have tryed evereything, and not even the Gods helped you, could it be perhaps that trough enemy manipulation you created a thoughtform that is harassing you? (like you started to belive that there is something/someone hindering you(trough enemy manipulation) and then you made it alive, and ever since then you have been feeding it subconciously and conciously).
I am fairly new and I still can't communicate to the Gods, but when I read your post this was the first thing that fell to my mind and that I really felt inclined to write.
If this is not the case and it is something else, Satanic blessings onto you Brother and I hope you are able to deal with it!
Hail Father Zeus!
Hail Mother Lilith!
Hail Teacher!
Hail Guardian!
Well even if that’s true, and I’m feeding this entity and keeping it alive as you say, doesn’t explain why I can’t get the gods to help me with it after years of trying. Last night was horrible with these attacks and I just sat there pleading to Satan to help me. For hours. Nothing happened. This is the same thing for the last three years. And yes I am decently advanced and can communicate on the astral. Just not with our gods. Only enemies. The gods won’t communicate with me. Anyway, I’m gonna make a thread on it and describe more so that maybe I can more guidance.
Eric13 wrote: And yes I am decently advanced and can communicate on the astral. Just not with our gods. Only enemies. The gods won’t communicate with me. Anyway, I’m gonna make a thread on it and describe more so that maybe I can more guidance.
So in other words, you are not advanced at all, you have no ability to comminicate astrally, and you are basically at the level of a beginner. Do not try to blame this on the Gods. You may be beyond beginner level with some things, but not with communication.
I am convinced that all of this with you is self-created. Your own imagination, your own doubts, and your own thoughts are stuck in a positive feedback loop. You have a feeling which is coming from your own imagination, you react to it and think it is real, you empower it, then you feel it again from your own mind. And every time this cycle happens, it gets stronger. That's what I mean by positive feedback loop.
I bet the gods want to help you, but your psychic senses are shut down and you refuse to listen, or you are just unable to listen. Maybe they act through me and influence me to write this to you, to ensure you get the message of what this is and what to do about it.
I strongly doubt that any kind of banishing ritual or any use of Vinasa would do anything to fix your problem. Has it helped at all? None of these could possibly help you if there is no "entity" involved with any of this. You cannot do a banishing ritual against your own imagination.
You must do a serious amount of Void meditation, and remove these thoughts whenever they come up. If you have had this problem for years, then it could be very difficult to change your habits and remove these thoughts, but it must be done.
Ol argedco luciftias wrote: Eric13 wrote: And yes I am decently advanced and can communicate on the astral. Just not with our gods. Only enemies. The gods won’t communicate with me. Anyway, I’m gonna make a thread on it and describe more so that maybe I can more guidance.
So in other words, you are not advanced at all, you have no ability to comminicate astrally, and you are basically at the level of a beginner. Do not try to blame this on the Gods. You may be beyond beginner level with some things, but not with communication.
I am convinced that all of this with you is self-created. Your own imagination, your own doubts, and your own thoughts are stuck in a positive feedback loop. You have a feeling which is coming from your own imagination, you react to it and think it is real, you empower it, then you feel it again from your own mind. And every time this cycle happens, it gets stronger. That's what I mean by positive feedback loop.
I bet the gods want to help you, but your psychic senses are shut down and you refuse to listen, or you are just unable to listen. Maybe they act through me and influence me to write this to you, to ensure you get the message of what this is and what to do about it.
I strongly doubt that any kind of banishing ritual or any use of Vinasa would do anything to fix your problem. Has it helped at all? None of these could possibly help you if there is no "entity" involved with any of this. You cannot do a banishing ritual against your own imagination.
You must do a serious amount of Void meditation, and remove these thoughts whenever they come up. If you have had this problem for years, then it could be very difficult to change your habits and remove these thoughts, but it must be done.
Well when I’m laying in bed trying to go to sleep and I get repeatedly thrown from my bed that’s not my imagination. Honestly it’s been so intense lately I don’t have any energy right now to talk about it. I’ll try. That’s why I haven’t made the thread. I don’t even know where to start when it comes to explaining everything. It’s so convoluted.
Basically it started when I was trying to open my astral senses and open communication three years ago. I tried to summon a god for some personal reason and it was my first real attempt doing that. During this summoning a demon did not come, but rather an enemy. I didn't know that at the time as I was new to astral communication. I invoked the entity. I did the summoning the exact way it’s described on the ToZ. I went through Satan. This entity then attached. I didn’t really think of it as that big of a deal at the time. It would make threats to me and stuff. I didn’t believe any of it and just ignored it. I thought after some banishing it would just go away. However, this did not work and I was quite confused. And then the threats it made came true and that’s when I was really freaked out and tried reaching out to the gods some more with no success.
There most certainly is an entity absolutely. And it gets more complicated. There was another entity I was in communication with for a bit. That I really thought was a god. They repeatedly told me that. They were of Satan, etc. and they actually did help me with certain things for a while. Gave me a lot of really wise advice for things and were super encouraging to me and helpful with meditations. But it was all done to get my trust. And my relationship with this enemy probably made my situation worse I was tying further into that energy and strengthen unwanted links and connections.
It is a real entity. It physically effects me. As with invocations where the entity speaks through you. This is what happens. But it’s mostly repetitive nonsense. It’s a thoughtform likely, but very powerfu. Cobra once told me, when I spoke to him privately about it that it could possibly be an advanced Grey attached. As their hive mind existence is similar to a thoughtform but way more powerful. Specifically it’s the worse when I’m laying down to go to bed. So I’m literally just trying to fall asleep, not thinking about anything when it’ll start writhing around and throwing me around. Sometimes it can be very violent and I’ll have bruises and soreness from being thrown around. It’s like I’m sharing my body with something is what it’s like. Actually not what it’s like. That’s what it is. And it’s weird cause when I attack it, it actually effects me like if I try to astral stab it or attack it all of the sudden I’ll physically be effected. Like I imagined my self cutting its head off with an astral sword once and when I did it, at the exact moment I had no control and I just fell to the ground. This happens often. These things suck, but really sucks is the constant threats that almost always come true. And I know you would think it’s cause I’m believing it and putting energy there but you gotta keep in mind in the beginning I never believed the threats at all. I only believed once they came true. I would literally wake up in the morning and clean my aura and do protections workings from when I woke up until I went to bed. Only taking breaks for short meals and water. I did that when I was out of work during the beginning of the pandemic for a very long time and none of it worked. This entity is real. It’s very powerful. Beyond what I can control. And as I said, I’ve done summoning a to help me and they e never worked.
Oh yeah and you asked about vinasa? Yes I use it and yes it has an effect and the entity starts screaming (through me btw, so it’s as if I am screaming, this isn’t in my imagination) and writhing. But it only helps for short bursts. I can do it for weeks, months, even though it appears to hurt it. It still doesn’t destroy it. It feels like it just instantly regenerates after I attack it. Like all the things I do have an effect but then it instantly heals and it’s all pointless. But I still do it anyway cause I don’t know what else to do and I get so angry I just attack the shit out of it. But nonetheless I’m still here dealing with it.
It’s much more complicated than this, but this is to make a long story short.
One last thing, I know this isn’t 100% proof cause there are frauds out there, but on two separate occasions I visited two different local psychics, just cause even though I was being physically effected I still thought well, maybe I’m crazy. Both of these psychics freaked out when I entered the building and before I could tell them my problem, they were like “you have some really negative and powerful entity attached to you” sent shivers down my spine cause I didn’t even tell her. I had just walked in. I know there are frauds but this happened with two different psychics. I’m not making it up. And I don’t know what to do. As I said as recent as last night I tried another summoning. No luck..
Ol argedco luciftias wrote: Eric13 wrote: And yes I am decently advanced and can communicate on the astral. Just not with our gods. Only enemies. The gods won’t communicate with me. Anyway, I’m gonna make a thread on it and describe more so that maybe I can more guidance.
So in other words, you are not advanced at all, you have no ability to comminicate astrally, and you are basically at the level of a beginner. Do not try to blame this on the Gods. You may be beyond beginner level with some things, but not with communication.
I am convinced that all of this with you is self-created. Your own imagination, your own doubts, and your own thoughts are stuck in a positive feedback loop. You have a feeling which is coming from your own imagination, you react to it and think it is real, you empower it, then you feel it again from your own mind. And every time this cycle happens, it gets stronger. That's what I mean by positive feedback loop.
I bet the gods want to help you, but your psychic senses are shut down and you refuse to listen, or you are just unable to listen. Maybe they act through me and influence me to write this to you, to ensure you get the message of what this is and what to do about it.
I strongly doubt that any kind of banishing ritual or any use of Vinasa would do anything to fix your problem. Has it helped at all? None of these could possibly help you if there is no "entity" involved with any of this. You cannot do a banishing ritual against your own imagination.
You must do a serious amount of Void meditation, and remove these thoughts whenever they come up. If you have had this problem for years, then it could be very difficult to change your habits and remove these thoughts, but it must be done.
I believe the same as Ol Argedco.
You believe so much in this that you can't get unstuck from it.
When I had a similar issue years ago I said to myself that I can't go on like that, so I started to just ignore it completely, that helped as I gained more understanding and became more clean spiritually speaking and I was able to pinpoint that the problem is a lack of concentration.
In void meditation you literally need to have nothing in your mind, no mindset, no nothing. Just a clear from everything mind. Ignoring this self created thoughtform will make you advance.
Active TranslatorThis is normal, you are not possessed.
I feel also as if I am under water and waves pushe me Gently around, of that I am in front of me, or that I am in the air, or that my body is turned with an angle, or that my body is warped.. all this is normal. Nobody is attacking you.
Are you like that guy on youtube that kept asking everyone to help them in the comments, telling them they could not meditate because a thoughtform was preventing them from doing so? He kept harassing people to remove it for them, as it was "self-regenerating" apparently. Obviously, the person was just a lunatic and there was no thoughtform whatsoever attached to them.
Stormblood wrote: Are you like that guy on youtube that kept asking everyone to help them in the comments, telling them they could not meditate because a thoughtform was preventing them from doing so? He kept harassing people to remove it for them, as it was "self-regenerating" apparently. Obviously, the person was just a lunatic and there was no thoughtform whatsoever attached to them.
I think a big part of what leads to this issue for people is failure to empower the 6th chakra, or maybe the upper chakras in general. I did do several willpower and free the soul related workings but I'd say the Inanna meditation to empower astral senses gave me the biggest jump in being able to differentiate between my own mental voice and what was coming through my temple chakras, as well as attempting to scorch my pineal gland.
As always, awareness is key to overcoming. However, strong belief in a thoughtform will eventually create one, so in some instances it actually is a problem. Maybe just not in the way a person thinks it might be. Whatever the case, no matter whether it was sent by the enemy or a form of subconscious self punishment, mastery of the self is the most efficient way to get rid of it and prevent it from coming back.
It's just difficult to accept the reality of the situation sometimes.