I have read about the dedication ritual and there is a sentence which is not yet clear to me: "Many of us have stayed and meditated until the candle had burned itself out." Is this necessary? Do I have to wait until the candle burns itself or I can blow the candle myself after finishing everything that had to be done? Please clear the things for me.
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I am aware that many have asked questions on this very important event but can someone please give me an indication of the following?
When is the best date, time, moon, planetary positions for the dedication?
What direction to face in the Southern Hemisphere?
Do you need sea salt, wine etc? Any other info will be appreciated here or to my email.
Do it when it feels right to you, don't put it off because you have a date in the future you want to do it on.
If you feel the need to face a certain direction, East is Father Zeus's direction (when doing rituals, we face east).
Sea salt doesn't have anything to do with this. I'm confused as to why you would mention it.
If you want a glass of wine, go ahead. But only if you want to, don't drink it just because it's cliche.
And because we get sooooooo many posts about where to draw the blood because they can't get any from their left index finger, it honestly doesn't matter where it's from. As long as it's your blood, it doesn't matter what body part you get a drop from. It's all the same.
Hail Zeus!
--- In , "thresher5" <thresher5@... wrote:
I am aware that many have asked questions on this very important event but can someone please give me an indication of the following?
When is the best date, time, moon, planetary positions for the dedication?
What direction to face in the Southern Hemisphere?
Do you need sea salt, wine etc? Any other info will be appreciated here or to my email.
Also remember that it is okay if you make a few mistakes, (like messing up the words, things like that) it is the intention that matters. The most important part about the ritual is your intention, if you truly intend to be a Zevist, then a few mistakes really don't matter. :) As they say- it's the thought that counts!
Hail Father Enki!
--- In , "lydia_666@..." <lydia_666@... wrote:
Do it when it feels right to you, don't put it off because you have a date in the future you want to do it on.
If you feel the need to face a certain direction, East is Father Satan's direction (when doing rituals, we face east).
Sea salt doesn't have anything to do with this. I'm confused as to why you would mention it.
If you want a glass of wine, go ahead. But only if you want to, don't drink it just because it's cliche.
And because we get sooooooo many posts about where to draw the blood because they can't get any from their left index finger, it honestly doesn't matter where it's from. As long as it's your blood, it doesn't matter what body part you get a drop from. It's all the same.
Hail Satan!
--- In , "thresher5" <thresher5@ wrote:
I am aware that many have asked questions on this very important event but can someone please give me an indication of the following?
When is the best date, time, moon, planetary positions for the dedication?
What direction to face in the Southern Hemisphere?
Do you need sea salt, wine etc? Any other info will be appreciated here or to my email.
me myself i do not have a whole lot of money right now but sometime next month or the month after that i plan on doing the dedication and/or thinking about creating one of those astral temple things.
i do not know much on those temples but i hear those really help people.
sense i am myself currently trying to figure this out i myself can only say if it has to be like north, south, east, or west then id say see if you can buy or make a compass.
templeofzeus.org though pretty much will tell you all about it.
From: thresher5 <thresher5@...
To:
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 4:51 AM
Subject: Dedication Ritual
I am aware that many have asked questions on this very important event but can someone please give me an indication of the following?
When is the best date, time, moon, planetary positions for the dedication?
What direction to face in the Southern Hemisphere?
Do you need sea salt, wine etc? Any other info will be appreciated here or to my email.
Hey, I got a quick question aswell cause I havent done the ritual yet. So my question is; does one really have to take a bath or bathe? whats the difference between a shower and a bath??
yeah you right on that one although if you need help pronouncing certain words and/or want to know how to do so better im sure there are ways to do so.
but for the most part as long as you really mean it that's all that matters.
From: anaxium <anaxium@...
To:
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: Dedication Ritual
Also remember that it is okay if you make a few mistakes, (like messing up the words, things like that) it is the intention that matters. The most important part about the ritual is your intention, if you truly intend to be a Zevist, then a few mistakes really don't matter. :) As they say- it's the thought that counts!
Hail Father Enki!
--- In , "lydia_666@..." <lydia_666@... wrote:
Do it when it feels right to you, don't put it off because you have a date in the future you want to do it on.
If you feel the need to face a certain direction, East is Father Satan's direction (when doing rituals, we face east).
Sea salt doesn't have anything to do with this. I'm confused as to why you would mention it.
If you want a glass of wine, go ahead. But only if you want to, don't drink it just because it's cliche.
And because we get sooooooo many posts about where to draw the blood because they can't get any from their left index finger, it honestly doesn't matter where it's from. As long as it's your blood, it doesn't matter what body part you get a drop from. It's all the same.
Hail Satan!
--- In , "thresher5" <thresher5@ wrote:
I am aware that many have asked questions on this very important event but can someone please give me an indication of the following?
When is the best date, time, moon, planetary positions for the dedication?
What direction to face in the Southern Hemisphere?
Do you need sea salt, wine etc? Any other info will be appreciated here or to my email.
Bathing is a sign of respect Quick Silver.You would want to go to a friends house looking like shit right.Then why present yourself to Satan,and the Gods that way.And no,in my opinion it doesn't matter which you take.Sometimes if I am very relaxed,I will take a bath,complete with candles and incense,and even oils,if I choose.And no I am not gay as many of my dear friends are,,but I have never been like the average straight male either.Or if I just want to take a shower,I will visualize the water washing any negative energy off me too.Hail SatanBrian
From: Quick SILVER <tenlisyruf2024@...
To:
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: Dedication Ritual
Hey, I got a quick question aswell cause I havent done the ritual yet. So my question is; does one really have to take a bath or bathe? whats the difference between a shower and a bath??
Ok, I understand that but I want to know if it really matters when doin the ritual? Cause if it does then I'll do it but if it doesn't then thats good to cause I dont fit in my tub..
I'm going to preform my dedication ritual soon does anyone have any tips to make it more successful?
Just expressing how you really feel about Satan in your heart,to me is the most important thing.Hail SatanBrian
From: lofar47 <lofar47@...
To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:11 PM
Subject: Dedication Ritual
I'm going to preform my dedication ritual soon does anyone have any tips to make it more successful?
Hi, I think everybody here will agree its what is in your heart that counts, but I will tell you about my dedication. I was Wiccan before, so knew about Esbats and Sabats, although obviously not in the correct way. I wanted my Dedication to be special to me, so decided to do it on a night when it was full moon. When the night finally came along, I was ready, although I was a bit scared, exited and nervous at the same time! But I was determined to do it, there was no way nothing was going to stop me! And the moon was so awesome that night, just hanging there big and round and magical and powerful! And so I did it, I dedicated my everything to my Father, my life, my soul, my existance. It was very intense, especially the blood part. I mean if you are a normal person, its not an easy thing to cut yourself. And I was determined not to prick my myself with a needle or something, like I was going for an hiv test! Obviously there is nothing wrong with a needle, thats just my personal opinion. Anyway, the cutting myself part was harder than I had imagined. It must have taken about 4 or 5 tries, but eventually I did it! By the way, to write my name, I used a feather, from a dove, and it worked very well, like they used to do in the olden days before ballpoint. I have stuck it in my Black Book, and every single day I remember that night, the most important night of my life!
--- In , "lofar47" <lofar47@... wrote:
I'm going to preform my dedication ritual soon does anyone have any tips to make it more successful?
Hail satanSent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!From: "wellness60" <wellness60@... Sender: Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 10:29:25 -0000To: ReplyTo: Subject: Re: Dedication Ritual
Hi, I think everybody here will agree its what is in your heart that counts, but I will tell you about my dedication. I was Wiccan before, so knew about Esbats and Sabats, although obviously not in the correct way. I wanted my Dedication to be special to me, so decided to do it on a night when it was full moon. When the night finally came along, I was ready, although I was a bit scared, exited and nervous at the same time! But I was determined to do it, there was no way nothing was going to stop me! And the moon was so awesome that night, just hanging there big and round and magical and powerful! And so I did it, I dedicated my everything to my Father, my life, my soul, my existance. It was very intense, especially the blood part. I mean if you are a normal person, its not an easy thing to cut yourself. And I was determined not to prick my myself with a needle or something, like I was going for an hiv test! Obviously there is nothing wrong with a needle, thats just my personal opinion. Anyway, the cutting myself part was harder than I had imagined. It must have taken about 4 or 5 tries, but eventually I did it! By the way, to write my name, I used a feather, from a dove, and it worked very well, like they used to do in the olden days before ballpoint. I have stuck it in my Black Book, and every single day I remember that night, the most important night of my life!
--- In , "lofar47" <lofar47@... wrote:
I'm going to preform my dedication ritual soon does anyone have any tips to make it more successful?
I remember when I did the Dedication Ritual, however the person who taught me to do it, had a much more elaborate ritual and instructed me to shout the words proudly! Well, my 2 daughters were asleep in the next room, so I whispered it proudly and feared that Satan might get angry with me for only whispering. I have since found that Satan is sooooo much more understanding than that other god, who is always to be feared! I hope that you find the joy and peace that I did after completing this important step to growing closer to our wonderful Father.
--- In , Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:
Just expressing how you really feel about Satan in your heart,to me is the most important thing.
Hail Satan
Brian
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From: lofar47 <lofar47@...
To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:11 PM
Subject: Dedication Ritual
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I'm going to preform my dedication ritual soon does anyone have any tips to make it more successful?
well i live with roommates so for me this is the kind of info i will remember when i go through with my own dedication that whispering and/or being quite is fine. well im sure father knows the concept that we have to all be secretive from others all too well
From: Carol <c.smith520@...
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 6:17 AM
Subject: Re: Dedication Ritual
I remember when I did the Dedication Ritual, however the person who taught me to do it, had a much more elaborate ritual and instructed me to shout the words proudly! Well, my 2 daughters were asleep in the next room, so I whispered it proudly and feared that Satan might get angry with me for only whispering. I have since found that Satan is sooooo much more understanding than that other god, who is always to be feared! I hope that you find the joy and peace that I did after completing this important step to growing closer to our wonderful Father.
--- In , Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:
Just expressing how you really feel about Satan in your heart,to me is the most important thing.
Hail Satan
Brian
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From: lofar47 <lofar47@...
To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:11 PM
Subject: Dedication Ritual
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I'm going to preform my dedication ritual soon does anyone have any tips to make it more successful?
That's awesome! Im doing my dedication ritual this month on fathers special day!! :) I'm so eager, happy, excited and can't wait!!!!
Hi, I could not think of a better day to dedicate yourself to our father! I will be thinking about you, and supporting you all the way. HAIL SATAN!
--- In , Quick SILVER <tenlisyruf2024@... wrote:
That's awesome! Im doing my dedication ritual this month on fathers special
day!! :) I'm so eager, happy, excited and can't wait!!!!
got 2 red, 3 black, and 4 blue candles. as well as all the other stuff listed on the TOZ site. i am going to do it soon.
by the way i have no needle or razor i have a thumbtack and yes i sterilized it. is that okay or no?
Also i have no dried up pen but i have a feather that i think is like from a crow or black bird of some type.
is that okay or no?
tell me soon as i gonna do it before night is over.
--- In , Hot Guy <hotstudman95@... wrote:
well i live with roommates so for me this is the kind of info i will remember when i go through with my own dedication that whispering and/or being quite is fine. well im sure father knows the concept that we have to all be secretive from others all too well
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From: Carol <c.smith520@...
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 6:17 AM
Subject: Re: Dedication Ritual
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I remember when I did the Dedication Ritual, however the person who taught me to do it, had a much more elaborate ritual and instructed me to shout the words proudly! Well, my 2 daughters were asleep in the next room, so I whispered it proudly and feared that Satan might get angry with me for only whispering. I have since found that Satan is sooooo much more understanding than that other god, who is always to be feared! I hope that you find the joy and peace that I did after completing this important step to growing closer to our wonderful Father.
--- In , Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@ wrote:
Just expressing how you really feel about Satan in your heart,to me is the most important thing.
Hail Satan
Brian
________________________________
From: lofar47 <lofar47@
To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:11 PM
Subject: Dedication Ritual
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I'm going to preform my dedication ritual soon does anyone have any tips to make it more successful?
do i have to fast east?
i only ask because i have no compass and i have no idea what direction is east.
please help
thanks a bunch
--- In , Hot Guy <hotstudman95@... wrote:
yeah you right on that one although if you need help pronouncing certain words and/or want to know how to do so better im sure there are ways to do so.
but for the most part as long as you really mean it that's all that matters.
________________________________
From: anaxium <anaxium@...
To:
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: Dedication Ritual
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Also remember that it is okay if you make a few mistakes, (like messing up the words, things like that) it is the intention that matters. The most important part about the ritual is your intention, if you truly intend to be a Zevism, then a few mistakes really don't matter. :) As they say- it's the thought that counts!
Hail Father Enki!
--- In , "lydia_666@" <lydia_666@ wrote:
Do it when it feels right to you, don't put it off because you have a date in the future you want to do it on.
If you feel the need to face a certain direction, East is Father Satan's direction (when doing rituals, we face east).
Sea salt doesn't have anything to do with this. I'm confused as to why you would mention it.
If you want a glass of wine, go ahead. But only if you want to, don't drink it just because it's cliche.
And because we get sooooooo many posts about where to draw the blood because they can't get any from their left index finger, it honestly doesn't matter where it's from. As long as it's your blood, it doesn't matter what body part you get a drop from. It's all the same.
Hail Satan!
--- In , "thresher5" <thresher5@ wrote:
I am aware that many have asked questions on this very important event but can someone please give me an indication of the following?
When is the best date, time, moon, planetary positions for the dedication?
What direction to face in the Southern Hemisphere?
Do you need sea salt, wine etc? Any other info will be appreciated here or to my email.
How will i know if i did the Dedication Ritual properly.
What are some things i should meditated on when i burn the paper at the end of the ritual
How do you know when the rituel works, does it work staight away?