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PoSEidON04 wrote:View source

What is it like to have so many souls in your hands that you teach them to initiate and surrender their souls through a blood signature?
Then you make them meditate for their purposes?
You program them.
Meanwhile, these people forget who they really are and forget their main purposes.
Because of their lack of understanding, some people even attack their families saying that it is the fault of the energies coming from those people.
I don't think you have done anything revolutionary in the world.
I don't think you have changed the world or created anything that will help it (you just found out that Satan is Zeus). Wow, what an important thing for humanity.
You want to bring magic to this realm, but this world is not a story, a movie or a game, it is purely physical. Some young people suffer from hyper-individuality because of this.
I am just trying to understand how we got here.
And why we got here.
None of you have amazing fortunes and have not discovered or created anything useful for the mechanisms of the physical world
None of you think you have a degree in psychology or are some mega psychologist.

As I am, so are you and the highest ones, why should I listen to you?

Your guidance to meditate doesn't help me at all.

I only feel good when things are going well in my life and I support that :(wow, the protective aura works or wow, this meditation program made me earn so much money). Seriously, bro, I want something real that will really help me and I've been looking for that in this group for a very long time. Apart from yoga, nothing helps me (yoga just calms me down and makes me feel good).
I don't want to be mean but I left a religion to come here and it's pretty much the same 100% the same spiritual programs but different vibes
which still doesn't help me grow and evolve

PoSEidON04 wrote:View source

Your guidance to meditate doesn't help me at all.

I only feel good when things are going well in my life and I support that :(wow, the protective aura works or wow, this meditation program made me earn so much money). Seriously, bro, I want something real that will really help me and I've been looking for that in this group for a very long time. Apart from yoga, nothing helps me (yoga just calms me down and makes me feel good).
I don't want to be mean but I left a religion to come here and it's pretty much the same 100% the same spiritual programs but different vibes
which still doesn't help me grow and evolve

Surely the messages will be deleted or the account will be blocked
because these messages have a strong impact on the reader, why?
because this is the reality

How drunk were you when writing this? Or was it after another large gambling loss, perhaps?

You need to put effort into your life for anything to work. This applies to both the physical and the spiritual. You clearly have issues with both, and you think you're gaining some sort of agency or control over your life by strongly stating that the spiritual doesn't work.

You've been given respectful advice in the past, and probably didn't consistently follow it. Sorry, if you can be skeptical and accuse all of us here that we achieved nothing materially, with no evidence, then I can also be skeptical and say I don't think you really meditated that much.
Certainly didn't understand trance or feeling energy, as you wouldn't even be experiencing these doubts.

You need consistent work to establish actual skills when it comes to magick and to get real results, and you also need to be consistent in both your magick and your meditation for a pretty long time, especially if you're impatient, dopamine-fried, not confident in your decisions in life, or all of the above. Been there to a degree.

I'm posting this here for other readers, not for you. I would still like to see you improve, but coming here with this kind of prideful attitude, yelling at everyone that we achieved nothing materially as if we have to post here what our income is and give you, personally, evidence, just because.
Not that any evidence would change your mind, because the problem is internal. I could show you a money working giving me an opportunity to upgrade my income, and you'd call it a coincidence anyway.

As a Zevist I'm gonna talk about my experience I might be wrong on some of the things here...

PoSEidON04 wrote:View source

What is it like to have so many souls in your hands that you teach them to initiate and surrender their souls through a blood signature?

If Zeus is the true god what's wrong with it?

PoSEidON04 wrote:View source

Then you make them meditate for their purposes?

Can't see what's wrong here?

PoSEidON04 wrote:View source

You program them.

I wish they were programming.Then I would meditate everyday.Also you should've shown your evidence on that.Like I can blame you too.Stop programming me to not meditating.

PoSEidON04 wrote:View source

Meanwhile, these people forget who they really are and forget their main purposes.

If you cracked the code on finding who we really are.I'm really interested.

PoSEidON04 wrote:View source

Because of their lack of understanding, some people even attack their families saying that it is the fault of the energies coming from those people.

So first of all a Zevist should hide their identity because of safety reasons.So I'm curious who are we talking about here?(Also I don't know if I need to say this but I've never attacked someone let alone my family.)

PoSEidON04 wrote:View source

I don't think you have done anything revolutionary in the world.

I mean Socrates probably heard that too also...(and they sparked major changes in my life but I made those changes that's the point.only you can improve your life.)

PoSEidON04 wrote:View source

I don't think you have changed the world or created anything that will help it (you just found out that Satan is Zeus). Wow, what an important thing for humanity.

Clergy is not Justice League.

PoSEidON04 wrote:View source

You want to bring magic to this realm, but this world is not a story, a movie or a game, it is purely physical. Some young people suffer from hyper-individuality because of this.

That's not Zevism's fault. If young people try to cope with the negativity in their life with just meditating guess what's gonna happen I'm not even getting into about porn consumption etc.

PoSEidON04 wrote:View source

I am just trying to understand how we got here.
And why we got here.

I'm not happy with all of the changes either.But that's life sometimes you're on the minority. ToZ doesn't promise pleasure it promises truth.

PoSEidON04 wrote:View source

None of you have amazing fortunes and have not discovered or created anything useful for the mechanisms of the physical world
None of you think you have a degree in psychology or are some mega psychologist.

Do you expect the High Priest to post a money spread or smth.?And money is temporary Mozart, Cabanel, Socrates,...these people will always be more important and precious than Warren Buffett etc.

PoSEidON04 wrote:View source

As I am, so are you and the highest ones, why should I listen to you?

Only you have the answer.And you asking that question proves that they couldn't program you.(maybe they didn't try to?)

PoSEidON04 wrote:View source

What is it like to have so many souls in your hands that you teach them to initiate and surrender their souls through a blood signature?
Then you make them meditate for their purposes?
You program them.
Meanwhile, these people forget who they really are and forget their main purposes.
Because of their lack of understanding, some people even attack their families saying that it is the fault of the energies coming from those people.
I don't think you have done anything revolutionary in the world.
I don't think you have changed the world or created anything that will help it (you just found out that Satan is Zeus). Wow, what an important thing for humanity.
You want to bring magic to this realm, but this world is not a story, a movie or a game, it is purely physical. Some young people suffer from hyper-individuality because of this.
I am just trying to understand how we got here.
And why we got here.
None of you have amazing fortunes and have not discovered or created anything useful for the mechanisms of the physical world
None of you think you have a degree in psychology or are some mega psychologist.

As I am, so are you and the highest ones, why should I listen to you?

"Nothing revolutionary in the world".. the whole Planet is revolting for the first time in ages thanks to the us and the Gods. That's probably the greatest Revolution in history.
Protect yourself from psychic attacks my friend...you know what i'm talking about.

The Pythagorean wrote:View source

How drunk were you when writing this? Or was it after another large gambling loss, perhaps?

You need to put effort into your life for anything to work. This applies to both the physical and the spiritual. You clearly have issues with both, and you think you're gaining some sort of agency or control over your life by strongly stating that the spiritual doesn't work.

You've been given respectful advice in the past, and probably didn't consistently follow it. Sorry, if you can be skeptical and accuse all of us here that we achieved nothing materially, with no evidence, then I can also be skeptical and say I don't think you really meditated that much.
Certainly didn't understand trance or feeling energy, as you wouldn't even be experiencing these doubts.

You need consistent work to establish actual skills when it comes to magick and to get real results, and you also need to be consistent in both your magick and your meditation for a pretty long time, especially if you're impatient, dopamine-fried, not confident in your decisions in life, or all of the above. Been there to a degree.

I'm posting this here for other readers, not for you. I would still like to see you improve, but coming here with this kind of prideful attitude, yelling at everyone that we achieved nothing materially as if we have to post here what our income is and give you, personally, evidence, just because.
Not that any evidence would change your mind, because the problem is internal. I could show you a money working giving me an opportunity to upgrade my income, and you'd call it a coincidence anyway.

I appreciate the answer, but I've been sober for 4 months. Maybe just coffee and nicotine. (1 month without gambling since I found out about eToro)

I'm making an effort, it's not laziness or cowardice, but I have to accept what I get from life in the situation I'm in and life humiliates me, bro.

I followed the advice: 26 days of Amon ra rituals I waited for the moon to be growing I have 4 days for money spells and their attraction plus I work on the square is the second day related to money still nothing has changed
(plus another spiritual program given by the high priest)

I'm not attacking anyone I'm just confused why I got into this listening to advice from people probably at the same level as me

Eligos Devotee 666 wrote:View source

As a Zevist I'm gonna talk about my experience I might be wrong on some of the things here...

If Zeus is the true god what's wrong with it?

Can't see what's wrong here?

I wish they were programming.Then I would meditate everyday.Also you should've shown your evidence on that.Like I can blame you too.Stop programming me to not meditating.

If you cracked the code on finding who we really are.I'm really interested.

So first of all a Zevist should hide their identity because of safety reasons.So I'm curious who are we talking about here?(Also I don't know if I need to say this but I've never attacked someone let alone my family.)

I mean Socrates probably heard that too also...(and they sparked major changes in my life but I made those changes that's the point.only you can improve your life.)

Clergy is not Justice League.

That's not Zevism's fault. If young people try to cope with the negativity in their life with just meditating guess what's gonna happen I'm not even getting into about porn consumption etc.

I'm not happy with all of the changes either.But that's life sometimes you're on the minority. ToZ doesn't promise pleasure it promises truth.

Do you expect the High Priest to post a money spread or smth.?And money is temporary Mozart, Cabanel, Socrates,...these people will always be more important and precious than Warren Buffett etc.

Only you have the answer.And you asking that question proves that they couldn't program you.(maybe they didn't try to?)

There's nothing wrong with that, it's really cool and I've always liked it. I've admired Zeus since I was a kid.

2. Let's talk about programming, the answer here is: meditate, meditate, meditate.

What do you think?

3. I don't even know who we really are, but I feel weaker since I got into this, I forgot the character I had, it was stronger before, now people think I'm a sucker.

4. Some people in this group take their parents for granted because they're not initiated.

5. We're not talking about Socrates, we're too young for him.

6. "the clergy is not the justice league".

ok, but I can't take advice from someone who's on my level.

Just because they've done a lot of research doesn't mean they're someone like "Socrates".

7. Toz promises pleasure even in the initiation ritual: "in return, His varied help, to bring my efforts to fruition."

8. If your financial situation is legal and extremely high, I must automatically listen to your advice, because I also want to have a stable and solid financial situation.

nema wrote:View source

"Nothing revolutionary in the world".. the whole Planet is revolting for the first time in ages thanks to the us and the Gods. That's probably the greatest Revolution in history.
Protect yourself from psychic attacks my friend...you know what i'm talking about.

You know there are children living in Israel, just like your grandchildren, your siblings or your younger relatives living in your provincial country
why would I attack something like that

What is Israel's fault that I don't have a solid financial situation?

PoSEidON04 wrote:View source

What is it like to have so many souls in your hands that you teach them to initiate and surrender their souls through a blood signature?
Then you make them meditate for their purposes?
You program them.
Meanwhile, these people forget who they really are and forget their main purposes.
Because of their lack of understanding, some people even attack their families saying that it is the fault of the energies coming from those people.
I don't think you have done anything revolutionary in the world.
I don't think you have changed the world or created anything that will help it (you just found out that Satan is Zeus). Wow, what an important thing for humanity.
You want to bring magic to this realm, but this world is not a story, a movie or a game, it is purely physical. Some young people suffer from hyper-individuality because of this.
I am just trying to understand how we got here.
And why we got here.
None of you have amazing fortunes and have not discovered or created anything useful for the mechanisms of the physical world
None of you think you have a degree in psychology or are some mega psychologist.

As I am, so are you and the highest ones, why should I listen to you?

The tools and advice you are handed down is not just from people "the same as you", although you are certainly below them if nothing appears to work, sorry to say. These tools are provided and brought to us by the Clergy, who synthesize the spiritual knowledge into workable forms for us. Therefore, the advice is partially from of divine origin and not just entirely from your peers.

Zevism is not fake like Christianity and therefore does not promise immediate results. You are newer and therefore it is harder to manifest results. This is normal, but you are being harsh on yourself and mistakenly believing your life will change in an instant. Not only do you need a strong soul for this, but you must understand that workings are transformations which being to rewrite our karma over time, which itself creates turmoil, but also builds us up from positions that can be very weak in some cases.

Yet, we could help you with this, but instead you decide to first attack us, as if we are forcing you to stay here or something. You had done this before and I believe you were warned, yet you also acknowledged the forum rules that say not to do this.

It is never fun to hear, but if you are not getting good results from tools that everyone is using, then the cause is user error. For example, believing your meditations do not do anything indicates you are on a low level of spiritual competence and should continue with the beginner meditations to improve sensing of energy.

You can try to spin that back on us, but this only further undermines yourself, by shifting your idea of the cause to a false origin. Honest self-reflection is needed, not deflection.

You will have to take a break now from the forums, because you have a habit of attacking us or the Gods when your own actions don't go well.

2.I think since meditating is the way to spiritual advancement there's nothing wrong with it
3.Since I know nothing about your life I can't really say anything.But at the end of the day you click on the website.I can't see ToZ's fault
4.That's their stupidity sorry.
5.I used the example Socrates because he was misunderstood and got executed I think you can connect the dots.
6.They're acting upon changing the world for the better and you get mad when it doesn't happen suddenly
7.I checked it but I couldn't see this phrase on the site. can you be more spesific?
8.How they can prove their financial success?And maybe you are the one to blame for your situation instead of clergy for not changing the world.

PoSEidON04 wrote:View source

I followed the advice: 26 days of Amon ra rituals I waited for the moon to be growing I have 4 days for money spells and their attraction plus I work on the square is the second day related to money still nothing has changed
(plus another spiritual program given by the high priest)

I'm not attacking anyone I'm just confused why I got into this listening to advice from people probably at the same level as me

Woah, 4 whole days of money spells? The second day of a square?

And nothing has changed?! How could it be? After 6 days of effort you haven't become rich?

WoadWarrior wrote:View source

Woah, 4 whole days of money spells? The second day of a square?

And nothing has changed?! How could it be? After 6 days of effort you haven't become rich?

After hundreds of days, I am not rich, but I am noticing a momentum building...

Henu the Great wrote:View source

After hundreds of days, I am not rich, but I am noticing a momentum building...

On day hit great optimism next pessimistic now I feel that closer that ever to starting my business