chakra spinning

Chakras are spinning vortexes of energy, like pyramids.

You will have to align them properly by looking at the diagram on ToZ website.

The energy uptake of each chakra is at the wide end and the energy output is at the point, also known as the 'bindu'.

So looking from the base of the pyramid, the wide end it rotates counter-clockwise.

It absorbs energy by spinning anti-clockwise.

I note how people post the Swastika and have it pointing the wrong way. The Swastika also spins counter clockwise.

666S666 wrote:

how to spin chakras to right side or left side . ( clockwise or counter clockwise )

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I am under the impression that the male chakras (base, sacral, solar, and bottom half of heart) should spin clockwise, whereas all the feminine ones should spin counter clockwise.

I have heard others say it doesn't matter which way, so I am a little unsure.

Spin in any side.

666S666 wrote:

how to spin chakras to right side or left side . ( clockwise or counter clockwise )

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I almost always spin them counterclockwise, I don't know if it's right or wrong but I've always done so instinctively.

I feel the energy calmly and the whole meditation goes well

Blitzkreig wrote:

666S666 wrote:

how to spin chakras to right side or left side . ( clockwise or counter clockwise )

HAIL ZEUS!

I am under the impression that the male chakras (base, sacral, solar, and bottom half of heart) should spin clockwise, whereas all the feminine ones should spin counter clockwise.

I have heard others say it doesn't matter which way, so I am a little unsure.

Aye oh aye. But the solar chakra also points down like the above feminine chakras.

So it's only the two base and sacral chakras that spin the opposite direction because of their inversion.

Blitzkreig wrote:

666S666 wrote:

how to spin chakras to right side or left side . ( clockwise or counter clockwise )

HAIL ZEUS!

I am under the impression that the male chakras (base, sacral, solar, and bottom half of heart) should spin clockwise, whereas all the feminine ones should spin counter clockwise.

I have heard others say it doesn't matter which way, so I am a little unsure.

Now that you mentioned it I remembered about the two pyramids in the MerKaBa/Star of Astaroth meditation. I haven't done that meditation in forever, but I remember the two pyramids spin in opposite directions (then the MerKaBa was updated and is different now, but I thought it was too advanced for me as I felt nothing so I didn't try the updated one yet).
See if those directions in the ToZ' MerKaBa page make sense to you. Usually I spin everything counter clockwise, but you never know. Lately I'm just feeling the vibration, can't tell which direction they spin.

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Blitzkreig wrote:

666S666 wrote:

how to spin chakras to right side or left side . ( clockwise or counter clockwise )

HAIL ZEUS!

I am under the impression that the male chakras (base, sacral, solar, and bottom half of heart) should spin clockwise, whereas all the feminine ones should spin counter clockwise.

I have heard others say it doesn't matter which way, so I am a little unsure.

Over the years this has been asked a lot. Spin them anyway that is comfortable. If this were an issue they would let us know.

Eric13 wrote:

Over the years this has been asked a lot. Spin them anyway that is comfortable. If this were an issue they would let us know.

Yeah, that is a good point. I just wonder why others thought differently. I think what you said overrides that though, because Pythia definitely would have said something on any of those pages if it spinning them one way would break the meditation.

I want to combine chakra spinning with vibrations. For 7th chakra ToZ has info about vibrating b-b-b-b-b, and after that MAUM. Should I just vibrate MAUM, or both? Seven vibrations for seven chakras plus 3rd eye.

Henu the Great wrote:

I want to combine chakra spinning with vibrations. For 7th chakra ToZ has info about vibrating b-b-b-b-b, and after that MAUM. Should I just vibrate MAUM, or both? Seven vibrations for seven chakras plus 3rd eye.

Two years ago when I took my time doing the 40 Days Training I remember using the B-B-B-B (buzzing bee) sound a lot for the Crown Chakra and I clearly remember thinking this sound was feeling like much more than the other vibrations I had tried, making my aware of it resonating in the top part of my head. I still use MAUM of course, as it includes the powerful AUM part, but if you're feeling something from B-B-B-B (or anything else that makes you feel an effect from doing it) I'd say keep it up. You can use both if you like, see which one feels more powerful after a while and pick your favorite.

Something else I feel I should mention, as it's been very important to me for the last month or so, is that whatever mantra you use (MAUM, THAUM, VAUM, etc) you should not just focus on the single chakra, but also take advantage of the A (base) U (crown) M ("connecting" in my understanding) as a way to feel that chakra as "part of the system" of the Soul, feeling its role and location in the Soul. Rule of thumb is, though, do what feels best for you. If it works/feel like something you can work with, keep it up.

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Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:

Two years ago when I took my time doing the 40 Days Training I remember using the B-B-B-B (buzzing bee) sound a lot for the Crown Chakra and I clearly remember thinking this sound was feeling like much more than the other vibrations I had tried, making my aware of it resonating in the top part of my head. I still use MAUM of course, as it includes the powerful AUM part, but if you're feeling something from B-B-B-B (or anything else that makes you feel an effect from doing it) I'd say keep it up. You can use both if you like, see which one feels more powerful after a while and pick your favorite.

Something else I feel I should mention, as it's been very important to me for the last month or so, is that whatever mantra you use (MAUM, THAUM, VAUM, etc) you should not just focus on the single chakra, but also take advantage of the A (base) U (crown) M ("connecting" in my understanding) as a way to feel that chakra as "part of the system" of the Soul, feeling its role and location in the Soul. Rule of thumb is, though, do what feels best for you. If it works/feel like something you can work with, keep it up.

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Thanks for the input. Now that you mentioned it, I remember using bee-sound in the past, and felt quite a nice effect from it. I think I will try both for now, and adjust later.

I have been slacking on chakra working department, but I'm taking measures to fix that very soon and your post was very helpful. Thanks a lot!

Henu the Great wrote:

I have been slacking on chakra working department, but I'm taking measures to fix that very soon and your post was very helpful. Thanks a lot!

I've been kind of slacking too (not doing all I wanted to do) lately with all the offensive time and other problems I had/still have to deal with, but sometimes tells me the Gods helped me realize my next step while doing Rituals, hence why now I feel strongly about grounding and Earth and the base chakra. I'm thinking of it in terms of a 'master/student' relationship in a dojo: you perform the potentially deadly technique and your master says (in a thick Asian accent lol) "No no no! You need more grounding! Effort good! Stance weak! You want deadly, no? More grounding!" XD

As for the buzzing bee sound, one more hint that I feel helps: when you do it, don't strain your entire mouth/cheek muscles to do it, only the lateral ones and leave the center/lips relaxed but as tight as to only leave one tiny hole through which air passes. Then 'imitate' the bee. It does sound a lot like V-V-V-V in my opinion, but it's also true that you get to feel it very easily in the head.
Just tune it so that it doesn't vibrate much in the Third Eye but more towards the upper part of your head. When you feel it there.. awesome.

Good luck with the TGT DEAD! :)

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Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:

I've been kind of slacking too (not doing all I wanted to do) lately with all the offensive time and other problems I had/still have to deal with, but sometimes tells me the Gods helped me realize my next step while doing Rituals, hence why now I feel strongly about grounding and Earth and the base chakra. I'm thinking of it in terms of a 'master/student' relationship in a dojo: you perform the potentially deadly technique and your master says (in a thick Asian accent lol) "No no no! You need more grounding! Effort good! Stance weak! You want deadly, no? More grounding!" XD

I get that. Warfare sucked so much juice out of me that I started skipping days and days of yoga. But at least I was putting a massive effort on Ritual.

You know it's funny that you lack grounding. I lack the opposite, I guess. Earth is my dominant, and Air I have the least. I've been pondering about invoking Quintessence, since I'm looking for balance. Balance from that and doing yoga. I need balance.

Any idea how long it might take to get some results..? I guess I just have to try it everyday my best and see what happens...

As for the buzzing bee sound, one more hint that I feel helps: when you do it, don't strain your entire mouth/cheek muscles to do it, only the lateral ones and leave the center/lips relaxed but as tight as to only leave one tiny hole through which air passes. Then 'imitate' the bee. It does sound a lot like V-V-V-V in my opinion, but it's also true that you get to feel it very easily in the head.
Just tune it so that it doesn't vibrate much in the Third Eye but more towards the upper part of your head. When you feel it there.. awesome.

Good luck with the TGT DEAD! :)

HAIL ZEUS FOREVER!

Thanks, and good luck to you to. It's a very powerful weapon and we have SATANAS to thank for that and clergy for bringing it to us. Very nice, to say the least. We wouldn't stand a chance without our Gods. I look forward to more peaceful and blissful days. Until then, rock on!

Henu the Great wrote:

You know it's funny that you lack grounding. I lack the opposite, I guess. Earth is my dominant, and Air I have the least. I've been pondering about invoking Quintessence, since I'm looking for balance. Balance from that and doing yoga. I need balance.

Any idea how long it might take to get some results..? I guess I just have to try it everyday my best and see what happens...

In one sarcastic remark "Aerate the premises". :P
Ok, jokes aside.. if you lack Air that much (as much as I lack Earth) you should introduce yourself/your Soul to Air. How? "Physically" is a good start. I recommend you try relax and calm yourself in any stance you want, and then just focus on your breathing, the breath getting in, how it fills your lungs. You should, ideally, become very aware of your breathing, of everything it does to your body and then the Soul. It fills your lungs, feeding you, empowering and calming you, but also be wary of any 'hyperactive' reaction. Not talking only about unwanted thoughts (Air people are very scatter brained) but a physical urge to move or open yourself to Air more. You'll eventually notice this change when you do it for a few more breaths. No need to overoxygenate yourself, just slow normally but slower, paying attention to it. If you find it's hard to keep focus, listen to the sound of Air getting through your nostrils and enjoy it.
I recommend the Basic breathing technique from the ToZ, others for now will just distract you (unless you're doing them for something else, like enhancing perception with the Alternate nostril one of course).

Spiritually, you could visualize a slow Air twister/tornado starting from your base and ending in your crown chakra or third eye, exiting them.
Warning: when done in the third eye this can get almost 'physical', and you may experience a 'twitch' on your forehead, or a vibration that seems physical. This is a good sign that spiritual dross is being removed. Just remember to clean your Soul after and bathe yourself with a healing color, gold for instance, empowering areas that have been purged of negative energy. You can use affirmations after, like in the AoP if you like, but I find that visualizing alone, which will lead to FEELING this happening, is stronger. You can still add an affirmation to complete the operation.

Hope that helps, let me know how it goes.

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Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:

In one sarcastic remark "Aerate the premises". :P

Haha, yes.

Ok, jokes aside.. if you lack Air that much (as much as I lack Earth) you should introduce yourself/your Soul to Air. How? "Physically" is a good start. I recommend you try relax and calm yourself in any stance you want, and then just focus on your breathing, the breath getting in, how it fills your lungs. You should, ideally, become very aware of your breathing, of everything it does to your body and then the Soul. It fills your lungs, feeding you, empowering and calming you, but also be wary of any 'hyperactive' reaction. Not talking only about unwanted thoughts (Air people are very scatter brained) but a physical urge to move or open yourself to Air more. You'll eventually notice this change when you do it for a few more breaths. No need to overoxygenate yourself, just slow normally but slower, paying attention to it. If you find it's hard to keep focus, listen to the sound of Air getting through your nostrils and enjoy it.
I recommend the Basic breathing technique from the ToZ, others for now will just distract you (unless you're doing them for something else, like enhancing perception with the Alternate nostril one of course).

Focusing on breathing is something very similiar to me as I exercise A LOT, but actually taking time, slowing down, and focusing on it like maybe when I do void or just Sun&Moon... That's another case, and I need to up my game, seriously. And that has been happening. I have let myself to take it easier on Ritual so that I can focus more on the beginner level meditations so that I can master those.

Spiritually, you could visualize a slow Air twister/tornado starting from your base and ending in your crown chakra or third eye, exiting them.
Warning: when done in the third eye this can get almost 'physical', and you may experience a 'twitch' on your forehead, or a vibration that seems physical. This is a good sign that spiritual dross is being removed. Just remember to clean your Soul after and bathe yourself with a healing color, gold for instance, empowering areas that have been purged of negative energy. You can use affirmations after, like in the AoP if you like, but I find that visualizing alone, which will lead to FEELING this happening, is stronger. You can still add an affirmation to complete the operation.

Hope that helps, let me know how it goes.

HAIL ZEUS FOREVER!

Nice advice. How about visualising being inside a tornado blown around by the AIR, whilst also at the same time focusing on breathing? Would that make sense at all?

Hopefully I get my air game going, and have something nice to report.

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Henu the Great wrote:

Focusing on breathing is something very similiar to me as I exercise A LOT, but actually taking time, slowing down, and focusing on it like maybe when I do void or just Sun&Moon... That's another case, and I need to up my game, seriously. And that has been happening. I have let myself to take it easier on Ritual so that I can focus more on the beginner level meditations so that I can master those.

That's almost in the same words exactly what I said to myself about Earth lately, brother, the need to up your game. I guess we both have started to realize how important it is to have a balanced Soul. I found that going slower on the Ritual helps as you focus more on each letter and take your time to thoroughly destroy it. When doing something every day we tend to be doing it 'robotically' in order to finish sooner I guess, but Magick shouldn't be fret, one does what one has to do. Focusing enhances the whole working many fold, you might even have signs from the Gods showing you their appreciation. I saw Astarte and felt Father back in February (I had just started FRTRs as I was out of a bad luck streak and needed to do my part) after a 3x Ritual and knew they believe in me. So I gave it more and more. Now there are times during the Ritual, like halfway through, that I FEEL the letters are almost non-existent and it encourages me to give my best, even if it's already 2am and can't wait to get in bed. Postponing equals defeat. And Zevists won't be defeated.

Henu the Great wrote:

How about visualising being inside a tornado blown around by the AIR, whilst also at the same time focusing on breathing? Would that make sense at all?

To visualize YOURSELF being INSIDE the tornado would end up in the 'evoking' category. The Air Element would be out of your body (where you visualize it the Element will ideally manifest) and this wouldn't allow your Soul to holding it in (you may still feel it around you and partially inside, brushing against your skin but not penetrating/bathing your Soul properly). By using a tornado (or any visualization you prefer of Air, even a gust after another, simple breathing, etc) INSIDE yourself (invoking the Air, then) you allow your Soul to grow accustomed to it and learn how to hold it more and better.

Careful anyway, as (because the Air Element tends to activate and stimulate and undo blockages) you may feel too much. Tingling, sparks in your muscles, nervous stimulation that causes jolts in your limbs, could all be effects of your working with Air, so do go slowly here. I think slow is really best in Magick, it's not like you have to rush things in a timed situation.. fretting your work will only spread you too thin for your work to have an impact on reality and decrease your success. Yo, maybe I'm advocating slowness because I'm fiddling with Earth lol.. but seriously, I do find it helps more to take your time with things and go to a slower pace than you'd want. It's really the same principle as Void meditation, you slow yourself down so you become aware of what moves too fast around you which you can't see yet. Like trying to read a phrase in a book while the book is being thrown in the air over and over again, you can't even distinguish the letters from the numbers. Slow down enough, and your senses become capable of capturing much more. Same goes for energy and Elements. Stupid example: if in Summer you run through a small waterfall because it's too cold, chances are you will feel cold every single time you do that. If, instead, you muster your courage and pace slowly under it, you'll adapt to the cold much quicker, until you're actually capable of enjoying it and will stay under as long as you want. Elements are like this too.
Besides, and I find this extremely important, they are quite literally "food for the Soul". Taking your time with a meal you really crave should be something natural, same goes for Elements.

Well, hope I motivated you enough. XD Do let me know about your results. If you have any suggestion about Earth, I'm all ears.

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Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:

To visualize YOURSELF being INSIDE the tornado would end up in the 'evoking' category. The Air Element would be out of your body (where you visualize it the Element will ideally manifest) and this wouldn't allow your Soul to holding it in (you may still feel it around you and partially inside, brushing against your skin but not penetrating/bathing your Soul properly). By using a tornado (or any visualization you prefer of Air, even a gust after another, simple breathing, etc) INSIDE yourself (invoking the Air, then) you allow your Soul to grow accustomed to it and learn how to hold it more and better.

Got it, thanks.

Careful anyway, as (because the Air Element tends to activate and stimulate and undo blockages) you may feel too much. Tingling, sparks in your muscles, nervous stimulation that causes jolts in your limbs, could all be effects of your working with Air, so do go slowly here. I think slow is really best in Magick, it's not like you have to rush things in a timed situation.. fretting your work will only spread you too thin for your work to have an impact on reality and decrease your success. Yo, maybe I'm advocating slowness because I'm fiddling with Earth lol.. but seriously, I do find it helps more to take your time with things and go to a slower pace than you'd want. It's really the same principle as Void meditation, you slow yourself down so you become aware of what moves too fast around you which you can't see yet. Like trying to read a phrase in a book while the book is being thrown in the air over and over again, you can't even distinguish the letters from the numbers. Slow down enough, and your senses become capable of capturing much more. Same goes for energy and Elements. Stupid example: if in Summer you run through a small waterfall because it's too cold, chances are you will feel cold every single time you do that. If, instead, you muster your courage and pace slowly under it, you'll adapt to the cold much quicker, until you're actually capable of enjoying it and will stay under as long as you want. Elements are like this too.
Besides, and I find this extremely important, they are quite literally "food for the Soul". Taking your time with a meal you really crave should be something natural, same goes for Elements.

Something that I noticed when I did more sun&moon pranayama last week was muscle spasms and jolts. It's that air, yes?

Slow is always good approach for such matters, and I think for any matter that revolves around evolving your self. Be it physical, mental or spiritual. There is this saying in cycling: Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. This relates to having a steady pace instead of surges. Over time slow and smooth is easier to race than fast and surgy and can result in better position in the race. I think same can be applied to this matter.

Well, hope I motivated you enough. XD Do let me know about your results. If you have any suggestion about Earth, I'm all ears.

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You shared valuable insight, and I appreciate it very much.

I can only suggest physical side of things about earth. I think you are aware of taking it slow already. That's one key concept right there. If you are not already doing some sort of physical exercise, then you should consider trying something. At minimum doing daily yoga is something very grounding, and physical. To take it to the next level start bodybuilding and doing cardio. That's how you gain both strength and cardio supports strenght by cardiovascular system. You don't want to be the super muscular guy who takes a set of stairs and is spent, right? :D Or if that sounds completely stupid to you, then maybe do twice the amount of yoga per day. I don't know your preferences or anything so I can merely suggest something random.

But yeah, key concepts should be: Slow, steady, focus and physical activities. Speaking of which eating after workouts is my favourite. :D

I hope this helped atleast a bit.

HAIL ZEUS!

Henu the Great wrote:

Something that I noticed when I did more sun&moon pranayama last week was muscle spasms and jolts. It's that air, yes?

Slow is always good approach for such matters, and I think for any matter that revolves around evolving your self. Be it physical, mental or spiritual. There is this saying in cycling: Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. This relates to having a steady pace instead of surges. Over time slow and smooth is easier to race than fast and surgy and can result in better position in the race. I think same can be applied to this matter.

The Sun and Moon breathing technique seems to be a lot of people's favorite and is said to be one of the best ones to increase your energy and free Kundalini. Jolts and sparks and involuntary movement are indeed featured related to Air Element, but don't forget this is also a clear sign of your own Soul having a stronger impact on your physical self, without focusing on Elements per se.

Sometimes, when I meditate in bed and reach a point in which I ALMOST let go and relax completely I feel a join twisting, a spasm, something involuntary and I know it's my energy getting released as the veil between the physical and the astral gets lifted away more and more.

In my opinion this is a very good thing. If you normally do pranayama I do recommend you pair it with Yoga as the two together can be seriously powerful. You could, for instance, start with pranayama, then Yoga + pranayama for as long as it's comfortable, then again slow down with pranayama (in a relaxed stance, you can do the Butterfly asana just to name one, but make sure your legs don't get cramps or feel too 'steady'.. you want your muscles to be relaxed so you can better feel the energy flow).

Going slow is an invaluable asset, either for Air people and Earth people or any other Element. If you run too fast you just risk missing the scenery entirely.

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Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote:

Sometimes, when I meditate in bed and reach a point in which I ALMOST let go and relax completely I feel a join twisting, a spasm, something involuntary and I know it's my energy getting released as the veil between the physical and the astral gets lifted away more and more.

A few days ago I was dozing off in bed, and entered a state between awake and asleep. I remember kicking something "in there", and my leg jolted. :D

In my opinion this is a very good thing. If you normally do pranayama I do recommend you pair it with Yoga as the two together can be seriously powerful. You could, for instance, start with pranayama, then Yoga + pranayama for as long as it's comfortable, then again slow down with pranayama (in a relaxed stance, you can do the Butterfly asana just to name one, but make sure your legs don't get cramps or feel too 'steady'.. you want your muscles to be relaxed so you can better feel the energy flow).

I do both, but I have not done them together properly yet. Some foundation breathing, yes, but that's about it. I want to get more expierence on both until I combine them.

I got a meditation pillow as a Yule gift. :D So now I can easily sit longer periods without physical discomfort. I might just start trying doing the easy pose with pranayama, for starters, and build up from there.

Just yesterday I did my longest single void meditation sitting, 16 minutes, and physically it was easy. I just felt like I need to do that very much more than I have done, and time went by so fast. The badass in me is like "pillows are for pussies", but honestly it beats sitting on a carpet or any other hard surface. Do you have expierence with yoga props?