Cancer

winragefilled666 wrote:

If you don't mind some questions touching tcm.
In general can you treat phlegm/dampness succesfully while not treating the underlying deficiency - yin/yang kidney or spleen qi..? (with herbs) Also are there any other things that can block the treatment?

Also I wanted to ask regarding the difference of accupressure and accupuncture. Is accupressure any/simmiliarly effective, when done on the same principles or is it not?

Since this thread is about cancer specifically I will gear my answer towards it.

The treatment of phlegm and dampness when there is underlying deficiency depends on which syndrome is the more prevalent.

However something I forgot to mention in my previous post which is very important and relevant is that cancer often will not form until there is a significant deficiency.

Regardless of the excess conditions in the body ie blood stasis, phlegm and stagnation of qi and fluids, the cancer does not take hold until there is a severe deficiency of qi.

Without this, cancer is often not the result and other diseases manifest.

Therefore in the treatment of cancer with Chinese Medicine, the qi deficiency is always addressed first as it is the primary concern and the very thing which allowed the cancer to develop in the first place.

Qi represents strength of the immune system as well so this makes sense.

Qi deficiency and the qi which we experience in meditation are the same thing however qi in your physical body is continually in use and refreshment from food and tends to be fixed to the body moreso than qi from meditation.

It's deficiency however can be resolved through regular consistent meditation.

Once the qi has been treatment and supplemented, then the excess conditions can be treated more effectively.

This is equivalent to getting your strength up before an operation or a chemo course.

If there is phlegm and dampness without serious deficiency then the excess must be treated first as supplementing the deficiency will also nourish and increase the excess.

Acupressure and acupuncture work on the same principles just as all branches of Chinese Medicine do ie Tai chi, qi Gong, herbal medicine, acupuncture, acupressure, tui na (Chinese remedial massage) and moxibustion alongside dietary therapy.

A person who has experienced or knows acupuncture and acupressure and studied the finer points of tui na knows that the fingers can be used to deliver the same sorts of qi sensations that needles can deliver given a strong enough qi in the practitioner and the correct technique.

Centralforce666 wrote:

winragefilled666 wrote:

If you don't mind some questions touching tcm.
In general can you treat phlegm/dampness succesfully while not treating the underlying deficiency - yin/yang kidney or spleen qi..? (with herbs) Also are there any other things that can block the treatment?

Also I wanted to ask regarding the difference of accupressure and accupuncture. Is accupressure any/simmiliarly effective, when done on the same principles or is it not?

Since this thread is about cancer specifically I will gear my answer towards it.

The treatment of phlegm and dampness when there is underlying deficiency depends on which syndrome is the more prevalent.

However something I forgot to mention in my previous post which is very important and relevant is that cancer often will not form until there is a significant deficiency.

Regardless of the excess conditions in the body ie blood stasis, phlegm and stagnation of qi and fluids, the cancer does not take hold until there is a severe deficiency of qi.

Without this, cancer is often not the result and other diseases manifest.

Therefore in the treatment of cancer with Chinese Medicine, the qi deficiency is always addressed first as it is the primary concern and the very thing which allowed the cancer to develop in the first place.

Qi represents strength of the immune system as well so this makes sense.

Qi deficiency and the qi which we experience in meditation are the same thing however qi in your physical body is continually in use and refreshment from food and tends to be fixed to the body moreso than qi from meditation.

It's deficiency however can be resolved through regular consistent meditation.

Once the qi has been treatment and supplemented, then the excess conditions can be treated more effectively.

This is equivalent to getting your strength up before an operation or a chemo course.

If there is phlegm and dampness without serious deficiency then the excess must be treated first as supplementing the deficiency will also nourish and increase the excess.

Acupressure and acupuncture work on the same principles just as all branches of Chinese Medicine do ie Tai chi, qi Gong, herbal medicine, acupuncture, acupressure, tui na (Chinese remedial massage) and moxibustion alongside dietary therapy.

A person who has experienced or knows acupuncture and acupressure and studied the finer points of tui na knows that the fingers can be used to deliver the same sorts of qi sensations that needles can deliver given a strong enough qi in the practitioner and the correct technique.

Thank you for the follow-up. It brings me to one more question though.

I know chakras aren't a part of the TCM framework, so I'm asking more for your personal opinion. Does empowering the chakras have any direct effect on the TCM structures? As in, does it help replenish anything else besides qi and does it help expel pathogenic factors? For example, would solar plexus chakra work help gallbladder deficiency, heart chakra work heart excess/deficiency?

Would starting the full chakra meditation daily improve someone's health and correct the TCM disease patter, if he didn't work with the chakras daily, until now? (over a longer period of time)

I'm asking because the chakras are said to influence one's health in a major way by both HPS Pythia and HP Zevios Metathronos, so I'm intrigued to find out, how health improvement via chakra healing happens. Does it somehow bypass the TCM patterns causing disease or does it only help in a way of providing a lot of qi, so the body can deal with the problem better?

winragefilled666 wrote:

Thank you for the follow-up. It brings me to one more question though.

I know chakras aren't a part of the TCM framework, so I'm asking more for your personal opinion. Does empowering the chakras have any direct effect on the TCM structures? As in, does it help replenish anything else besides qi and does it help expel pathogenic factors? For example, would solar plexus chakra work help gallbladder deficiency, heart chakra work heart excess/deficiency?

Would starting the full chakra meditation daily improve someone's health and correct the TCM disease patter, if he didn't work with the chakras daily, until now? (over a longer period of time)

I'm asking because the chakras are said to influence one's health in a major way by both HPS Pythia and HP Zevios Metathronos, so I'm intrigued to find out, how health improvement via chakra healing happens. Does it somehow bypass the TCM patterns causing disease or does it only help in a way of providing a lot of qi, so the body can deal with the problem better?

Chakras are located at major concentration points of the medical channels of the body.

The truth of the matter is that the meridians or nadis are one and the same however certain areas on the surface of the body are delineated for ease of reference for function.

All of the meridians come from the one sushummna or central channel or penetrating vessel, Chong mai.

From here there is a branch to the male and female channels, governing and conception, Ren and Du Mai.

The Ren and Du disperse into the extraordinary channels, Yin Wei, Yang Wei and Yin Qiao, Yang Qiao.

The Girdling vessel or Dai Mai links all of the vertical ascending channels (which is all of the extraordinary channels) by virtue of its path around the hips.

This means that all of the 8 channels from which all other channels arise (12 organ channels) are actually 1 which leaves 13 channels total.

The sub branches, connecting branches and internal pathways along with the collaterals (very small fine channels that cover the entire body inside and out) make up the 144,000 Nadis of the body.

The internal pathways amass at the chakras and this is where spiritual energy enters the channels to affect the body.

So yes, meditation directly acts on the TCM structures.

The minor energy circulation of the front and back chakras of the body is in contrast to the great circulation whereby the energy is moved around along the pathways of the meridians on the surface of the body.

It's ill advised to attempt this without knowing the paths of the channels well as it is easy to get lost but the general path starts at the chest and goes to the fingers, then along the back of the arm to the neck and face, then down the back of the body (with the exception of the stomach channel) to the feet and up the inside of the leg and abdomen to the chest to enter the next channel.

One cycle will pass through four channels and will cross the body under the nose when the large intestine channel is followed on the second cycle.

I was curious on everyones opinion of chemo, as i have been convinced for a long while now it mainly only contributes to worsening the health of the patient, and alot of the time kills the patient more then the cancer would.

serpentwalker666 wrote:

I was curious on everyones opinion of chemo, as i have been convinced for a long while now it mainly only contributes to worsening the health of the patient, and alot of the time kills the patient more then the cancer would.

Toxins are hard to deal with and can leave someone on the edge of death. Needless to say, to live would draw upon the lifes energy, shortening the life, damaging tissues, causing permanent damage.

It's also known that chemo does damage tissues (and DNA)... (which places one at more risk to get cancer again)

And not all chemo works right for one person as it'd for another. Because ones bodily imbalances are not the same as another..

scorpiorising wrote:

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Have you done a freeing the soul working? I highly recommend doing one before (or during) healing mantras. Ansuz would be best, since you're new perhaps only 20 reps, or 40, 80 or 88 if you can. These are power numbers that correspond with Ansuz's number.

Affirm something like "in healthy and beneficial ways for me, I am now and eternally free from cancer in every way". This Friday is a perfect time to begin, New Moon in Virgo :)

Sanskrit mantra Visuddhi has been recommended for deep cleaning, you can use it into your throat chakra, even just 4 or 5 reps to start, and build up gradually.

Always stop a mantra if it doesn't feel right, or cut back if you feel too overwhelmed.

SATchives wrote:

I like how this went from an amazing post to coffee up your ass. Sigh* beautiful post OP everyday I learn just how little I know could you recommend materials or books materials and sources I want to learn more. Thank you

A good place to start is The Foundations of Traditional Chinese Medicine by Giovanni Maciocia.

With regard to the thyroid cancer.. is it symptomatic? If so, what symptoms do you have?

There must be an underlying qi deficiency which needs to be resolved first so 'detox' should be the final step, not the first.

Chemo is the final step of treatment - even strong herbs designed to help with serious illness can be highly toxic but western medicine does not look after the body's qi first, they look to killing the toxins (with more toxins as it must be done) and often in higher doses than the body can handle.

This is why it frequently kills the patient before the cancer.

Centralforce666 wrote:

SATchives wrote:

I like how this went from an amazing post to coffee up your ass. Sigh* beautiful post OP everyday I learn just how little I know could you recommend materials or books materials and sources I want to learn more. Thank you

A good place to start is The Foundations of Traditional Chinese Medicine by Giovanni Maciocia.

With regard to the thyroid cancer.. is it symptomatic? If so, what symptoms do you have?

There must be an underlying qi deficiency which needs to be resolved first so 'detox' should be the final step, not the first.

Chemo is the final step of treatment - even strong herbs designed to help with serious illness can be highly toxic but western medicine does not look after the body's qi first, they look to killing the toxins (with more toxins as it must be done) and often in higher doses than the body can handle.

This is why it frequently kills the patient before the cancer.

Thank you

This is interesting.. I have never heard of this before? And a hole new prospective on cancer too. ♥️ Thank you for sharing

Centralforce666 wrote:

This is a numbers game and the more cells which are dividing expose the multitude of cells to aberrations in DNA replication due to small errors which can occur for MANY reasons, toxins included.

This thing right here is interesting, because supposition that cancer is "bad luck at cellular lottery" would mean that whales and other large animals would have higher chance of cancer than humans (more cells = more chance for something to go wrong) yet it has been observed that this is not the case.

We have so much to learn.