Beyond hurt

NinRick wrote:

1) It should be very clear (if what you said were true) that the enemy attacks you hardcore, not the gods.

2) Satan would help you if you were an Zevism and approached him. No doubt about that.

3) You certainly talk a lot, for someone who was not active on those forums before. You came out of the blue... yet you claim you were here for a very long time.

4) You play the victim and you cry out loud, do you know who also plays victim all the time? Take a guess.

5) A Zevism who is as long with Satan as you „were“, would never even consider leaving.

6) You said you left Satan, then you decide to join the Temple of Zeus forums and stay longer than you ever have before. Big lol.

Wow you really got me because I really felt pity for you. Your lies won’t work anymore.

Well we can't say she hasn't been on the old forums either brother.

Also about Satan giving you help, that
is correct, but if you didn't approach him because of constant enemy attack would you do it? No. You would be apprehensive.

Actually she didn't really ask that much sympathy. Honestly what I felt from my intuition. She just needed some help.

That is incorrect. Vovim Baghe I think was back then with the ToZ but later derailed. So that argument can't be put there. It depends on the individual.

I don't remember her per se saying she left Satan. Maybe I skimmed past it. Regardless, l do remember her saying she would rather die since *Satan*(Enemy Grey's) forsake her and she felt down.

I cannot not say about this much, but I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. If she is a Zevist, she's working on herself as she said. However if she is indeed an infiltrator, well that will come to light. What is required is patience. Let things play out.

Dahaarkan wrote:

My intuition tells me this is a troll account created to give the impression that the old gods are aggressive, unforgiving and cruel, and to plant insecurities in new members. The creation of the account just to start a thread on this specific topic makes it beyond obvious to me.

The gods do not waste their time harassing random people, this does not happen. Nothing about this person's story makes any sense and never in all my years as a Zevist have I experienced or heard of someone who experienced such things. It's just blatant made up bullshit in the form of a sob story to try to gain sympathy and approval. To get this poison across and try to scare new people off this path.

Satan does not abandon Zevists this also does not happen, and has never happened outside of cases of treason. People may become distant or disorganized, but the dedication is forever, and it goes both ways. People fail and fall repeatedly on the path of self betterment and nobody is punished or abandoned for making mistakes.

You punish yourself if you do not learn from them, and don't continue to move forward. The gods do not punish or abandon Zevists over such petty nonsense. In my personal experience, Satan especially is very patient and welcoming.

My intuition tells me the same its a bullock story i,m 6 years Zevist and i have newer experience this before the gods where always
friendly and helpful.

Ramier108666 wrote:

NinRick wrote:

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It's entirely possible such fears and doubts can take hold of you, and it's even worse when you're psychically inclined and then those fears and doubts actually astrally manifest before you in sight, sound, telepathy, feeling, touch, energy, everything and making you even further believe them even though you're creating them yourself.

People too strong in emotion can have these issues and lack of control over them because emotions are a powerful reflectant of inclination to the psychic chakras, thus psychic matters. Which is why I'm not surprised at the OPs emotion-based outbursts in their self-defense here even though I warned them not to reply to anything further because others aren't going to understand it as such and just see it as somehow further 'proof' for their opinions. Doesn't mean they're a troll, if anything it's just a further association to what I stated their issue to be which is their fears and such regarding the gods being a psychic delusion over lack of psychic control and grounding.

Too little control over emotions also signs as too little control over psychic manifestations because they both tie in energy and tunings. The OP just needs to learn how to tune out of this and centre themselves a bit more logically for a more controlled balance.

Ghost in the Machine wrote:

Ramier108666 wrote:

NinRick wrote:

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It's entirely possible such fears and doubts can take hold of you, and it's even worse when you're psychically inclined and then those fears and doubts actually astrally manifest before you in sight, sound, telepathy, feeling, touch, energy, everything and making you even further believe them even though you're creating them yourself.

People too strong in emotion can have these issues and lack of control over them because emotions are a powerful reflectant of inclination to the psychic chakras, thus psychic matters. Which is why I'm not surprised at the OPs emotion-based outbursts in their self-defense here even though I warned them not to reply to anything further because others aren't going to understand it as such and just see it as somehow further 'proof' for their opinions. Doesn't mean they're a troll, if anything it's just a further association to what I stated their issue to be which is their fears and such regarding the gods being a psychic delusion over lack of psychic control and grounding.

Too little control over emotions also signs as too little control over psychic manifestations because they both tie in energy and tunings. The OP just needs to learn how to tune out of this and centre themselves a bit more logically for a more controlled balance.

Perhaps they can do some runic working to help center their psyche.