Alright, look folks... I wanna talk about physical strength and physique...

Primal wrote:

Look...

When we jog and get that endorphin/dopamine high, we feel good. So obviously, physical movement has a direct influence on our minds. Doing yoga has positive effects on the mind.

If the above are true, which they are and all of you agree to it... Why don't all of you take up bodybuilding/weightlifting as a valid way of advancing the soul and the mind? Seriously.

Bluntly speaking, I cannot fathom how such an intellectually advanced clan like the Temple of Zeus community fail to see how incredibly important weight training is on a person's psyche, confidence, and personal powers.

Also, it'll improve your relationships with women... Trust me on that.

Superb post!

How do we fail to see that if we literally encourage working out?

HPS Pythia encouraged body weight exercises (pages 3478-3480):
thread in general:
https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=374199#p374199

Primal wrote:

Look...

When we jog and get that endorphin/dopamine high, we feel good. So obviously, physical movement has a direct influence on our minds. Doing yoga has positive effects on the mind.

If the above are true, which they are and all of you agree to it... Why don't all of you take up bodybuilding/weightlifting as a valid way of advancing the soul and the mind? Seriously.

Bluntly speaking, I cannot fathom how such an intellectually advanced clan like the Temple of Zeus community fail to see how incredibly important weight training is on a person's psyche, confidence, and personal powers.

Also, it'll improve your relationships with women... Trust me on that.

This is mostly a spiritual forum, I personally do go out for runs and hit the gym.
It doesn’t really help with women directly tho, it helps indirectly because you feel good and confident and are able to make a move.
I see so many nerds out there with handsome girls, so working out just for women won‘t help you. Taking action does.

Nice post, we seek spiritual and physical perfection, working on the body is a must as well.

Primal wrote:

Look...

When we jog and get that endorphin/dopamine high, we feel good. So obviously, physical movement has a direct influence on our minds. Doing yoga has positive effects on the mind.

If the above are true, which they are and all of you agree to it... Why don't all of you take up bodybuilding/weightlifting as a valid way of advancing the soul and the mind? Seriously.

Bluntly speaking, I cannot fathom how such an intellectually advanced clan like the Temple of Zeus community fail to see how incredibly important weight training is on a person's psyche, confidence, and personal powers.

Also, it'll improve your relationships with women... Trust me on that.

Not related, are you dedicated yet?

You're new so you fail to see that we do not fail to see the importance of a healthy physique. Many of us do work out in our own ways. Not strictly gym workouts, but otherwise as well.

A strong physique is essential when the Kundalini ascends. As a Zevist, it is imperative to keep a healthy strong physique. It has been discussed many times throughout the years by HPS Pythia, HPZM and other Zevist members.

There are multiple disciplines one can practice to strengthen ones physique; Yoga, Pilates, Martial Arts such as Kung Fu, Taekwondo and so on.

Having a strong and flexible body brings many benefits to ones health and spiritual progression. Zevists are very dynamic by nature. Our aim is perfection both physically and spiritually after all (Godhead).

A strong physique is not only essential when kundalini ascend, but is also useful for control and manage more vril/bioelectricity in you body. Soul and mind walk together, this is a thing dedicated people well know.
The stronger and flexible your body is, the stronger and flexible your power will be, they benefit a lot.

Primal wrote:

Look...

When we jog and get that endorphin/dopamine high, we feel good. So obviously, physical movement has a direct influence on our minds. Doing yoga has positive effects on the mind.

If the above are true, which they are and all of you agree to it... Why don't all of you take up bodybuilding/weightlifting as a valid way of advancing the soul and the mind? Seriously.

Bluntly speaking, I cannot fathom how such an intellectually advanced clan like the Temple of Zeus community fail to see how incredibly important weight training is on a person's psyche, confidence, and personal powers.

Also, it'll improve your relationships with women... Trust me on that.

It's too much to add on to martial arts for me.
Step into a bjj gym and try to put one of their purple belts in a headlock then tell me how strong you feel.

My personal opinion is that the more you advance, the stronger your body needs to be.

Because you need a strong vessel to hold big amounts of energy.

Primal wrote:

Henu the Great wrote:

You're new so you fail to see that we do not fail to see the importance of a healthy physique. Many of us do work out in our own ways. Not strictly gym workouts, but otherwise as well.

Hey I understand that. But it's plainly obvious to me that you don't take it seriously enough to feel the need to subscribe to a gym membership. You can't maximally work your thighs with air squats. You can't fully develop your back without access to a pull-up bar.

And this kind of half-assing with shit like pilates just won't cut it. Bodybuilding is not a matter of something-is-better-than-nothing. If you greatly workout your pressing muscles through push ups and actually succeed at it, then congratulations. You created a severely imbalanced upper body with no back development.

A person aiming to do the bare minimum amount of gym-lifting time should spend time at the gym two days every week. If people can commit to that, they'll progress just fine. Unless you're specifically aiming to be an endurance athlete, you have to lift in order to be fully healthy. Muscles are a good barometer of overall health. People only started fucking it up when chemically-assisted athletes came on the scene. But in the fifties and sixties, muscularity was always tied to health. Look up guys like Eugen Sandow and other old-school bodybuilders. Muscular and healthy.

Granted, I'm a weightlifter. Not a bodybuilder. But close enough!

Look, only bodybuilding wont do any good if you want to advance. You should do yoga to have the inner pathways open.

It is possible to develop your whole body without a pullup bar. Search up the Sanchin kata.

Primal wrote:

F_For_Flamingo wrote:

My personal opinion is that the more you advance, the stronger your body needs to be.

Because you need a strong vessel to hold big amounts of energy.

And by strong, you mean big size and great strength? I agree to it, of course. But most here don't really bodybuild or strength train.

You're just looking for validation, you're begging people to spell it out for you and tell you to go lift. That's great, but its not necessary to be built like a mountain to advance.

If you want to lift and have a certain body type that's amazing. But you've made how many topics by now, asking the same thing in a different way?

Flexibility is just as important if not more, do you do any kind of yoga?

Primal wrote:

NinRick wrote:

Primal wrote:

Look...

When we jog and get that endorphin/dopamine high, we feel good. So obviously, physical movement has a direct influence on our minds. Doing yoga has positive effects on the mind.

If the above are true, which they are and all of you agree to it... Why don't all of you take up bodybuilding/weightlifting as a valid way of advancing the soul and the mind? Seriously.

Bluntly speaking, I cannot fathom how such an intellectually advanced clan like the Temple of Zeus community fail to see how incredibly important weight training is on a person's psyche, confidence, and personal powers.

Also, it'll improve your relationships with women... Trust me on that.

This is mostly a spiritual forum, I personally do go out for runs and hit the gym.
It doesn’t really help with women directly tho, it helps indirectly because you feel good and confident and are able to make a move.
I see so many nerds out there with handsome girls, so working out just for women won‘t help you. Taking action does.

Nice post, we seek spiritual and physical perfection, working on the body is a must as well.

Hey thanks. But I do have to contend with your women assertion.

Dude no. lol. After a man reaches the minimum-level of required social competency, he's already going to be accepted by his community and social circle. People tend to overkill it by learning this "game" bullshit, but after you achieve a decent level of sociability and skill, at that point, all that will matter is your social status and your good looks. The only requirement is for you to not be a complete dork.

And these nerds you've seen who were with hot girls... They may be nerds but they sure as hell weren't fat or deformed. Being thin, to some extent, is appealing because it shows you're not getting a heart attack anytime soon. But my goodness, if that pretty girl had the choice between that weak nerd and a stud bodybuilder nerd, she'd bang the stud bodybuilder nerd instead.

Granted, some manipulation and calculation will help in seduction, but the difference is tiny compared to what social status and good looks will give you. And confidence itself comes from a solid social status.

Fake confidence comes from a solid social status.

If you lose your social status, you lose your confidence. Good looks are nice to have, but not that important for a man. I agree that a strong body gives you confidence.

True confidence comes from power, power over your body, mind, emotions. Knowing and living the truth gives you confidence. Beliving in yourself gives you confidence. Also beliving in the Gods gives you confidence.

As long as one cares what other people think of him, it is hard to truly be confident, because you are dependant on other people to be confident(im struggling witht this, but it is getting better with time)

Well atleast that are the things I belive in

Primal wrote:

NinRick wrote:

Primal wrote:

Look...

When we jog and get that endorphin/dopamine high, we feel good. So obviously, physical movement has a direct influence on our minds. Doing yoga has positive effects on the mind.

If the above are true, which they are and all of you agree to it... Why don't all of you take up bodybuilding/weightlifting as a valid way of advancing the soul and the mind? Seriously.

Bluntly speaking, I cannot fathom how such an intellectually advanced clan like the Temple of Zeus community fail to see how incredibly important weight training is on a person's psyche, confidence, and personal powers.

Also, it'll improve your relationships with women... Trust me on that.

Not related, are you dedicated yet?

If you're talking about whether or not I did the paper burning candle ritual for Father Zeus, then yes. I made a big thread about it.

Why?

"the paper burning candle ritual"
*cries within*

This was the Dedication Ritual towards Father Zeus, where Satan takes you into his caring and loving Family, where you receive protection and guidance, and are free to advance as far as you like. This is something very deep and the most meaningful day in the life of many Zevists, as this sets the start towards a meaningful life and onto a path of profound understanding, advancement and evolution overall.

So don't call it "the paper burning candle ritual" please.

Primal wrote:

Look...

When we jog and get that endorphin/dopamine high, we feel good. So obviously, physical movement has a direct influence on our minds. Doing yoga has positive effects on the mind.

If the above are true, which they are and all of you agree to it... Why don't all of you take up bodybuilding/weightlifting as a valid way of advancing the soul and the mind? Seriously.

Bluntly speaking, I cannot fathom how such an intellectually advanced clan like the Temple of Zeus community fail to see how incredibly important weight training is on a person's psyche, confidence, and personal powers.

Also, it'll improve your relationships with women... Trust me on that.

for validation and circle jerk go elsewhere. we all aspire to be beautiful (the true meaning of it) and yes it does mean to have a well built and defined physique.

this doesnt mean bodybuilders are the definition of beauty, they're the opposite, nobody wants to look like a roided monster.

it seems to me you're just fuckin around here though

Primal wrote:

Hey I understand that. But it's plainly obvious to me that you don't take it seriously enough to feel the need to subscribe to a gym membership. You can't maximally work your thighs with air squats. You can't fully develop your back without access to a pull-up bar.

And this kind of half-assing with shit like pilates just won't cut it. Bodybuilding is not a matter of something-is-better-than-nothing. If you greatly workout your pressing muscles through push ups and actually succeed at it, then congratulations. You created a severely imbalanced upper body with no back development.

A person aiming to do the bare minimum amount of gym-lifting time should spend time at the gym two days every week. If people can commit to that, they'll progress just fine. Unless you're specifically aiming to be an endurance athlete, you have to lift in order to be fully healthy. Muscles are a good barometer of overall health. People only started fucking it up when chemically-assisted athletes came on the scene. But in the fifties and sixties, muscularity was always tied to health. Look up guys like Eugen Sandow and other old-school bodybuilders. Muscular and healthy.

Granted, I'm a weightlifter. Not a bodybuilder. But close enough!

Sigh... You assume A LOT. I don't bother going into details now, but you don't have any idea about my training and what I know about the subject.

This is not as encouraged or promoted by many simply because of lack of time and wish for efficiency as far as development goes. Say you only have 1 hour a day to dedicate to physical activites(this is quite common with 9-5ers) which should you do bodybuilding/weight training or yoga(or other disciplines like martial arts, Qigong, etc) I would say do yoga. This is simply because it has the dual effect of improving your physical health along with empowering yourself spiritually while just plain weight training does not. In other words why waste your time and energy on something when there is a much more efficient and beneficial way to do things. Further through spiritual work such as a Mars square you can exponentially improve your physique much more than just doing physical training. In essence this argument encapsulates the phrase I use quite often which is "work smarter not harder."

Also as far as the women part goes there is much more to it, and you should understand that based on experience as I have read in your previous posts. Simply looking good on the exterior will do nothing if on the interior you are "ugly" so to speak. I will not validate you as Powerofjustice has said I know you want an excuse to call bodybuilding spiritual development when it isn't, for more information look to the archived post I have linked below it may be a hard truth to accept but this needs to be said after you have asked this question many times.

exercise and spiritual development: https://archive.ph/S08X4

Ave Mars

Primal wrote:

Look...

When we jog and get that endorphin/dopamine high, we feel good. So obviously, physical movement has a direct influence on our minds. Doing yoga has positive effects on the mind.

If the above are true, which they are and all of you agree to it... Why don't all of you take up bodybuilding/weightlifting as a valid way of advancing the soul and the mind? Seriously.

Bluntly speaking, I cannot fathom how such an intellectually advanced clan like the Temple of Zeus community fail to see how incredibly important weight training is on a person's psyche, confidence, and personal powers.

Also, it'll improve your relationships with women... Trust me on that.

I've heard several guys say weightlifting per se had zero effect on success with women though.
Personally, I would say I dated more successfully as a skateboarder, but that was long ago :)
Skateboarding involves risk and living on the edge, so it's actually pretty masculine in that sense.
Does it lead to advancement of the mind and boy? Definitely.

ToZ as I understand it is supportive of any activity which leads to advancement and development, weightlifting included.
HPS Pythia has mentioned she is into that also, but so are everyone who are looking to advance themselves.
The main thing ToZ wants to reveal though is what true spirituality really is compared to fake christian "spirituality", and red-pill people on that first and foremost.
I guess one reason why the benefit of weightlifting is not mentioned is because its already common knowledge.
But well, not as common as one would wish these days so I would say you have a slight point there anyway actually.
Could be mentioned.

jrvan wrote:

In my opinion, the best type of exercise someone can do is something they actually enjoy doing. If it feels like a chore or a monotonous routine then that's wrong in my eyes. Where is the life in that? Kids have fun while exercising, so why don't adults? Your body can get fit and train all of its muscles through use in many different disciplines. If someone has fun while dancing then they should get their exercise through dancing, if someone likes swimming, martial arts, a combination of things, etc... then they should work out primarily doing these things they enjoy. If training with weights a few times a week helps them improve and go even further in these disciplines they enjoy then all the better to invest some time towards it.

I realized this recently while running. I was only looking towards the finish line that I marked for myself. I didn't even think to take it all in and try to have fun while running like I did when I was a kid. Now I'm trying to get back to that, and it's surprisingly really difficult. After this experience, it just doesn't make sense to me anymore why exercising shouldn't be fun. It shouldn't be a robotic chore, and it's really begun to feel wrong that it is. That's how I feel about it.

Doing what you love will also craft your body in that style, like how they say someone has a "swimmer's body" and stuff like that. And speaking of physique, past a certain point, having that much muscle to maintain sounds like a pain to me. Bigger definitely isn't always better, and it's certainly not functional the way most people do bodybuilding. On a personal level, bodybuilding is not aligned with my goals. I don't train for my appearance, never have.

I disagree with the part that it has to be fun and enjoyable.
There are days and phases where we don’t want to work out, but you still need to do it. You don’t do it because of how much fun this is, no. This is hard work and has something to do with discipline and becoming the Person you want to become.
It’s not a robotic chore, you are forging your own mind and steeling your will.
Same goes with meditations and studying.
You don’t study because it is fun, you don’t learn coding because it is fun, you don’t become an engineer because it is fun. You are working hard so you become the person you want to become.

My brother is big into Bodybuilding, and I have enjoyed Yoga, in my 5 years of training Yoga consistently, when I do step into the gym to train with my Brother, other than Weight, I have absolutely no difficulty keeping up with him.

I can also do Pull-ups, handstands, one hand pushups, work 16 hours straight. Mostly, I contribute this ability to my desire to constantly improve my physical capabilities, Through Yoga, Skateboarding, Diet, Work, and Calisthenics.

However, after watching a few of the Arnold Classics, Seeing them Big Oily Muscular Men, I want to bring entire Crowds to Awe. I know this can only be achieved with Bodybuilding and Diet.