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Advice on panic attacks

Ariadne the Scribe

Ariadne the ScribeActive Translator
#1

Hello.
I've been having an issue and I'd appreciate any help.

So, apparently, I'm having panic attacks. I say "apparently" because I can NOT doubt the loud beating on my chest - yet, when I check my pulse and blood pressure, everything is normal...

All of a sudden, there are many doors opening in my life and I'm happily going through them - but as it seems all these new experiences and chances are a bit too much for my mind to handle.

I need to mention that this stress happens subconsciously.
I am NOT feeling consciously stressed out. I'm just thinking of what I need to do (make a checklist and whatnot) but I don't consciously feel like freaking out.

So, what would you suggest I do? I don't wanna use Isa because I can not risk "feeling dull". I need to be ready and go.

Are there any herbs/tea that could help? Any other ideas or advice on how to handle this subconscious stress?
At this moment in my life I would appreciate any spiritual methods (such as a specific energy work/meditation/combination of meditations) or tea/herbs, or even some wise words that could help my mindstate THAN changing my diet... I do not have the time to work on my diet right now.
I know that I should pay attention to all things when it comes to my body but I don't have enough time to do this right now.

Discussion

Centralforce666
#2
Yagami Light wrote:

Hello.
I've been having an issue and I'd appreciate any help.

So, apparently, I'm having panic attacks. I say "apparently" because I can NOT doubt the loud beating on my chest - yet, when I check my pulse and blood pressure, everything is normal...

All of a sudden, there are many doors opening in my life and I'm happily going through them - but as it seems all these new experiences and chances are a bit too much for my mind to handle.

I need to mention that this stress happens subconsciously.
I am NOT feeling consciously stressed out. I'm just thinking of what I need to do (make a checklist and whatnot) but I don't consciously feel like freaking out.

So, what would you suggest I do? I don't wanna use Isa because I can not risk "feeling dull". I need to be ready and go.

Are there any herbs/tea that could help? Any other ideas or advice on how to handle this subconscious stress?
At this moment in my life I would appreciate any spiritual methods (such as a specific energy work/meditation/combination of meditations) or tea/herbs, or even some wise words that could help my mindstate THAN changing my diet... I do not have the time to work on my diet right now.
I know that I should pay attention to all things when it comes to my body but I don't have enough time to do this right now.

Are the things which are happening to you now causing you to feel excited or joyful often?

These emotions in excess can disturb your heart spirit and it is in this time you need to focus on quietening your heart and stilling your mind.

Void meditation is great for this as is any other grounding meditation, ensuring you eat earthy grounding foods such as yam, sweet potato and squash but also salty and dark/black foods to promote the kidneys and reinforce connection between the deeper kidney energies (sacral and base chakra) and the higher centres (sixth and crown).

Bringing your energy into your sacral chakra and condensing and keeping it there is also useful to settle the energies flaring upwards and disturbing the heart (mind).

Ghost in the Machine
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Yagami Light wrote:

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There is a lack of calm in you, too much wild energy in the background manifesting as a consistent state of adrenaline and this is raising your fight-or-flight at the slightest of things. Things like this have to do with the fire element.

You said you're going through a lot of new things, this has to do with change, change is ruled by the colour orange which rules over the fire element. Everything in the universe connects with something, events and things that we involve or indulge in raise certain things in accordance to their rulerships, all this change has passively incorporated a lot of the orange colour into your soul which has risen your fire element with you unaware.

You need to start meditating with harmonious blue coloured energy and allow this calming colour to engulf you and for you to take it into your soul like with the foundation meditation. Visualize it quelling the fires in your soul, stabilizing the energy and electricity firing through you to a point of complete quiet and calm stillness, a total silence, really feel and believe this with focus and intent. Maybe listen to some underwater ambience while you're at it if you want.

This blue is deep electric blue and is one of the colours of Satan. It works with the water element.

Here are some images with the general kind of blue you need to visualize and use:

If just merely looking at these images of and focusing on this colour makes you feel a kind of blissful calm/stillness wash over your mind and through you, then you definitely need to use it, your fire is too high and your soul is craving balance with blue and water.

#4

So when mastering my soul,
Can foundation meditation help with connecting to my soul,
What about energy meditation and void meditation,
And flame meditation

Ariadne the ScribeActive Translator
#5
Centralforce666 wrote:

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Ghost in the Machine wrote:

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Thank you both for responding to me, I really appreciate it! :)

Ghost in the Machine, your answer also made me wonder if this is the reason that, in this period, I really want to rain (and it's the first time in my life that I want to rain, instead of wanting it to be sunny).
This is very interesting.
I did the foundation with this electric blue and it was, of course, very relaxing... I put some underwater ambience as well, as you suggested, and it was perfect. :D

CentralForce666, yes, these events make me feel extremely joyful. :P
Void meditation is something I definitely need to work on, but I will also try condensing my energy into my sacral. Thank you very much for your time. :)

Ghost in the Machine
#6

Glad it's all working out for you, and yes the rain thing is definite. Our soul will seek balance subconsciously in certain ways, wanting it to rain definitely means it's craving the water element for balance. Remember the mirror law of the two realms physical and astral, what is done to one side will influence the other.

You'll physically desire to do things involving water and this in turn will bring focus to the water element and passively raise it in your soul, just like how physically involving in change, a rulership of orange energy, had indirectly risen orange energy in your soul thus had indirectly risen your fire element causing this wild energy that in turn manifested as this 'anxiety'.

Keep at it with the blue energy and water element for a while every day until your fire finally settles. This background 'anxiety' will stop then.

Yagami Light wrote:
Centralforce666 wrote:

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Ghost in the Machine wrote:

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Thank you both for responding to me, I really appreciate it! :)

Ghost in the Machine, your answer also made me wonder if this is the reason that, in this period, I really want to rain (and it's the first time in my life that I want to rain, instead of wanting it to be sunny).
This is very interesting.
I did the foundation with this electric blue and it was, of course, very relaxing... I put some underwater ambience as well, as you suggested, and it was perfect. :D

CentralForce666, yes, these events make me feel extremely joyful. :P
Void meditation is something I definitely need to work on, but I will also try condensing my energy into my sacral. Thank you very much for your time. :)

#7

deep breathing in front of an ozone generator
oxygenation of the body is key

Ol argedco luciftiasActive Helper
#8
loki88 wrote:

deep breathing in front of an ozone generator
oxygenation of the body is key

Ozone can be very irritating to the lungs. Regular O2 is what is needed, not O3.

#9
Ol argedco luciftias wrote:
loki88 wrote:

deep breathing in front of an ozone generator
oxygenation of the body is key

Ozone can be very irritating to the lungs. Regular O2 is what is needed, not O3.

you're a walking contradiction

Ol argedco luciftiasActive Helper
#10
loki88 wrote:
Ol argedco luciftias wrote:
loki88 wrote:

deep breathing in front of an ozone generator
oxygenation of the body is key

Ozone can be very irritating to the lungs. Regular O2 is what is needed, not O3.

you're a walking contradiction

How? This is personal experience. I have asthma, and sometimes in the summer there are days when they announce there is more ozone than usual by ground level, and it always made my lungs very irritated and uncomfortable. This is not placebo, because there were times I felt the effect then learned afterward that there was a lot of ozone at that time. There was a drastic noticeable difference in my breathing and lung comfort when there is more ozone in the air I breathe. I've also heard this same reaction happening in many other people too.

Did you see this in the untermench health protocols? Or some new-age book? Or just some random untested idea that you thought about in 5 seconds?

#11

Can I ask advice as well? It seems a guiding hand has sent me here.
10 years ago I had a massive panic attack. What lead to this was a habit of smoking marijuana as a social thing I did with my step-brother which lead to unhealthy enabling. It wasn't a daily thing thankfully, it was more of a saturday laid back type deal, but I was enticed one day to smoke and as I was walking to the kitchen, out of nowhere I just had a massive palpitation in my chest leading me to believe I was going to have a heart attack, as a 16 year old.
I gave up my paraphenelia to my parents and gave it up completely at that point, but either the same day or a week later, I thought I was going to die as I laid in my bed crying for dear life, afraid of my heartbeat and felt changed since that day like I haven't been the same. Even yesterday, I am still afraid to tune into my heartbeat as if I can stop it if I focus hard enough on it.
I'm trying to continue on by overcoming it to not be afraid, but it proves difficult sometimes. Luckily I've had 0 panic attacks, but now it's just irritating me and I want to overcome it.

I'm strongest in water element, but weakest in Air. I wanted to share this that you are not alone as well. I still get paranoid that I still have marijuana inside me trying to paralyze me mentally. I am working on focus, breathing, and I have been stretching and exercising a-lot more. Drinking plenty of water as well!

AquariusActive Helper
#12
Ol argedco luciftias wrote:
loki88 wrote:
Ol argedco luciftias wrote:

Ozone can be very irritating to the lungs. Regular O2 is what is needed, not O3.

you're a walking contradiction

How? This is personal experience. I have asthma, and sometimes in the summer there are days when they announce there is more ozone than usual by ground level, and it always made my lungs very irritated and uncomfortable. This is not placebo, because there were times I felt the effect then learned afterward that there was a lot of ozone at that time. There was a drastic noticeable difference in my breathing and lung comfort when there is more ozone in the air I breathe. I've also heard this same reaction happening in many other people too.

Did you see this in the untermench health protocols? Or some new-age book? Or just some random untested idea that you thought about in 5 seconds?

:lol: :lol: It's actually him who wrote that

Head Guardian Sophiles Phylax
#13
Ol argedco luciftias wrote:
loki88 wrote:
Ol argedco luciftias wrote:

Ozone can be very irritating to the lungs. Regular O2 is what is needed, not O3.

you're a walking contradiction

How? This is personal experience. I have asthma, and sometimes in the summer there are days when they announce there is more ozone than usual by ground level, and it always made my lungs very irritated and uncomfortable. This is not placebo, because there were times I felt the effect then learned afterward that there was a lot of ozone at that time. There was a drastic noticeable difference in my breathing and lung comfort when there is more ozone in the air I breathe. I've also heard this same reaction happening in many other people too.

Did you see this in the untermench health protocols? Or some new-age book? Or just some random untested idea that you thought about in 5 seconds?

As far as I understand, and from what that book on health posted around here, oxygenating the body above normal levels is done by in-taking ozone through the digestive system such that it absorbs through the stomach or small intestine, not through the lungs. If you use hydrogen peroxide, the delivery method would not even be ozone, anyway.

Ghost in the Machine
#14
Yagami Light wrote:

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How are you? Have you been feeling any better lately with this?

Ariadne the ScribeActive Translator
#15
Ghost in the Machine wrote:

How are you? Have you been feeling any better lately with this?

Thank you very much for your concern! :) (also, rather unrelated, but I find your new profile avatar rather unsettling. :shock: )
Believe it or not, I haven't been able to do it on a daily basis... But even so, I've noticed that my desire for rain has stopped.
I'm trying to do it daily but sometimes I fall asleep because of the tiredness. But I will be listening to the underwater blub blub sounds... I like them a lot. :D

I have also made it a goal to go through all of your posts (your topics and comments to others' topics) hahaha!
I believe the things you say are invaluable - and you also explain them in a way that I can easily follow and understand.

Nevertheless, (in regards to my issue) I need to confess that today I started doing more meditations than I did yesterday (well, I was hardly doing anything because of all the things that were on my mind... I thought the less I did, the better I'd be) and I feel like I'm subconsciously kind of afraid that I will be overwhelmed again.
I haven't done the Final Ritual for more than a week... In my mind I am in a big denial to do it, as if it is a stressful thing.. Well, it IS 30 minutes of my time - but I do have those 30 minutes. And it's not like I'm doing anything better either...

So, today I started doing more meditations, and restarted the Ritual, and I'm a little bit afraid.

I would love to reach your level man... I mean, I don't know you personally at all, but the way you express yourself and the things you write... It shows that you have a very good understanding about certain things, and I would love to also have this understanding and this control of my mind and myself.

Ghost in the Machine
#16
Yagami Light wrote:
Ghost in the Machine wrote:

How are you? Have you been feeling any better lately with this?

Thank you very much for your concern! :) (also, rather unrelated, but I find your new profile avatar rather unsettling. :shock: )

I think it's beautiful but a creep factor is fine by me, it won't bite you.

Believe it or not, I haven't been able to do it on a daily basis... But even so, I've noticed that my desire for rain has stopped.
I'm trying to do it daily but sometimes I fall asleep because of the tiredness. But I will be listening to the underwater blub blub sounds... I like them a lot. :D

A little bit still builds to something in time so don't stress too much if you struggle to find time or focus to do it every single day without fail.

I have also made it a goal to go through all of your posts (your topics and comments to others' topics) hahaha!
I believe the things you say are invaluable - and you also explain them in a way that I can easily follow and understand.

Just remember to still think for yourself and don't take everything any member says as 100%. I have definitely grown up a lot since the beginning of this year and though I'm sure you'll find some of my older posts useful to some extent I would like for you to still use your own judgement and intuition to deem what makes sense and is realistic.

My more present posts of this year are far more grounded and accurate than my older posts for instance due to a major soul-freeing phase a few months ago and lots of steady advancements, so just be aware of that.

Nevertheless, (in regards to my issue) I need to confess that today I started doing more meditations than I did yesterday (well, I was hardly doing anything because of all the things that were on my mind... I thought the less I did, the better I'd be) and I feel like I'm subconsciously kind of afraid that I will be overwhelmed again.
I haven't done the Final Ritual for more than a week... In my mind I am in a big denial to do it, as if it is a stressful thing.. Well, it IS 30 minutes of my time - but I do have those 30 minutes. And it's not like I'm doing anything better either...

So, today I started doing more meditations, and restarted the Ritual, and I'm a little bit afraid.

Is there any particular reason as to why it feels overwhelming? Is it just spending too much time on one meditation that it's frustrating/boring/etc? Because if so then theseExternal ↗ twoExternal ↗ might make it a bit easier to do it. They're like little mini-games but for the Ritual and you can test them both out and see which one works best for you.

Or is it a matter of simply being too pressed for time or having too many things to do in a day?

I would love to reach your level man... I mean, I don't know you personally at all, but the way you express yourself and the things you write... It shows that you have a very good understanding about certain things, and I would love to also have this understanding and this control of my mind and myself.

Having understanding is not the same as having spiritual power, but it has gotten me quite far. When you ever find the extra time you should devote to working on your 6th and Crown chakra for intuition.

Intuition is one of the main reasons next to personal experiences and guidance from Zeus and the gods that I'm so knowledgeable about spiritual matters. Everybody advances at their own pace and I certainly didn't start out this way, in fact if I told you how the first half of my years as a Zevist were you'd struggle to believe I'm someone who even managed to get this far.

Time, patience, perseverance and even the smallest of focused effort with decent enough consistency will build up in time. There's plenty of members far more advanced than me, they just aren't regularly active on the forum like I am. You can get to such levels and well beyond it at your own pace, it's not a race.

Ariadne the ScribeActive Translator
#17
Ghost in the Machine wrote:

Just remember to still think for yourself and don't take everything any member says as 100%. I have definitely grown up a lot since the beginning of this year and though I'm sure you'll find some of my older posts useful to some extent I would like for you to still use your own judgement and intuition to deem what makes sense and is realistic.

When you ever find the extra time you should devote to working on your 6th and Crown chakra for intuition.

You have hit the nail with the above two things man. :P
I am actually easily influenced by others' opinion and advice (specifically by other Brothers and Sisters, or others who I believe are smarter or have more experience than me) and I tend to disregard thinking on my own about these situations.

As for the intuition, you have no idea how many times I wanted to do that (to work on it) but eventually stopped (and at other times I never started), because of all the confusion about it...
Should I work on my third eye? My sixth chakra? My pineal gland? My crown? All of my psychic points (clairaudience and clairvoyance)? All of these seem to be connected to the intuition, and it just drives me crazy not knowing what I should really do.

And I don't believe I could do one thing for some time - then stop and do the other thing (another chakra) - because we need to be constantly working on all of them - and if we stop working on one of them, then our progress decreases (on that chakra)...
Well, I started Raum and Hatha Yoga, but I'm not sure if these will help in maintaining the advancement I may achieve by (eg) vibrating Thaur into my 3rd eye for 40 days.

I know I desperately need to work on my intuition, and I definitely want that - but since I've always gotten many different answers about which of all the chakras/points I should empower in order to achieve that - I have simply abandoned it (for now).
Yesterday I also started doing the SaTaNaMa meditation - so hopefully, that's a start.

Truth is, I'm ever so dependent on others, especially about things I have no knowledge of.
I am simply afraid of wasting my time by doing something the wrong way - so I am always looking for others to tell me how I should or what I should do (about... most things in my life, to be honest).
I understand that we learn from mistakes - and I'd like to believe I'm not afraid to do mistakes - BUT I hate wasting my time. And I feel like I have already wasted too much of it.

Ghost in the Machine wrote:

Is there any particular reason as to why it feels overwhelming? Or is it a matter of simply being too pressed for time or having too many things to do in a day?

It is, in fact the latter. I do leave half an hour (or 20 minutes) in between each meditation (to let the energies settle), so doing 5 meditations + half an hour = too much time. (it's like 2 hours of waste in-between the meditations)
Say, I wake up at 8 am and need to leave for work at 12 pm. It's very limited and stressful to be able to fit it all in. I simply need to be constantly on the clock (careful to not let more than 20 or 30 minutes pass in-between meditations, otherwise I won't make it). I work an 8 hour shift (add another hour to go to work and another hour to return home), and I desperately want my 8 hours of sleep at night so time's very limited.

Ghost in the Machine
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Yagami Light wrote:

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Well in regards to intuition and upper chakras, let's do all-purpose, small, quick and easy.

Do the Alternate NostrilExternal ↗ breathing exercise for five rounds. This will help clear the energy channels of the ida and pingala in the head which will help feed energy into your upper chakras to empower them casually with just your own passive energy levels. A clean soul of course helps greatly as dross in the soul can hinder positive, empowering energy. I created a gif some time ago for this breathing exercise and it is perfectly timed to the required seconds, just mirror it.

After you're done that just focus on the entire head region of your soul, upper chakras and all, and vibrate DAGAZ 10 times into it. That's it that's all, you're done and both of these meditations will only take a few minutes out of your day and you'll still be making consistent progress so long as they're done daily.

Yagami Light wrote:
Ghost in the Machine wrote:

Is there any particular reason as to why it feels overwhelming? Or is it a matter of simply being too pressed for time or having too many things to do in a day?

It is, in fact the latter. I do leave half an hour (or 20 minutes) in between each meditation (to let the energies settle), so doing 5 meditations + half an hour = too much time. (it's like 2 hours of waste in-between the meditations)
Say, I wake up at 8 am and need to leave for work at 12 pm. It's very limited and stressful to be able to fit it all in. I simply need to be constantly on the clock (careful to not let more than 20 or 30 minutes pass in-between meditations, otherwise I won't make it). I work an 8 hour shift (add another hour to go to work and another hour to return home), and I desperately want my 8 hours of sleep at night so time's very limited.

It sounds to me like you need to devote to some schedule arrangements. I'll throw out some suggestions since waking up earlier is out of the question.

Are there certain things your week days that can be held off until the weekends of which you'll have more time such as chores, at-home tasks/duties for a start? Are there any things in your physical routine that you can afford to sacrifice? This isn't necessarily for specifically having more time to meditate, everyone should have at the very least 2 hours every day to have time for themselves outside of physical and spiritual matters to do things they enjoy.

Let's not forget that while we're making a living we still need to have a life, right?

Ariadne the ScribeActive Translator
#19
Ghost in the Machine wrote:

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Hey! :)
Sorry for taking so long to respond back to you.
I actually started the meditation you suggested two days after you posted it. I must confess that I haven't seen (or felt) any progress in regards to my instinct and head chakras/psychic points, but... I received an attack here and there; and I believe that is the cause of it. (me working in these points)

Now, I don't know if it could just be a "coincidence" either, but I don't think so.
Both attacks did NOT make me feel scared, but both times I felt that the enemy was watching me, because of what I'm doing right now. But I haven't felt scared.

There's something interesting though... I notice that when I yawn (especially when I do this meditation) I feel like energy goes into my head (after the yawn) - which takes me back to an earlier realization of mine, that my throat chakra may have a blockage - which means I'll have to add another meditation to my program, to deal with it.

Yesterday my day was so busy, I hardly did one meditation and fell asleep... I woke up on my own at 4 am and continued with the meditations (so I basically did everything before the day changed at 6.30 am). I also did your meditation... As I was focusing on my head (after the meditation and affirmation was over) it was like I was falling asleep and "daydreaming" that I lied down on a train railways, and placed my neck where the train would cut it if it passed (an attack, I can assume). I felt like shit, tried to wake myself... I remember I had also felt like shit at another time while doing this meditation (or afterwards, while focusing on my head). Anyway, I then did SaTaNaMa and fell asleep...
And I woke up once because I was laughing in my sleep... And then I woke up twice, because I was crying in my sleep, and it was like I wanted to cry in real life too, but just a small sob came out (no tears).. And I slept again...

I believe this laughing/crying (I do not have any recollection of the dream, and I believe it is not necessary either) is because of the throat chakra.
I had tried doing Thurisaz in my throat to unblock it... For a few days I think (close to 20). I was just yawning so fucking much, and I saw no difference. I think I had also used another rune, but I don't remember which one now. I wonder if I should go as far as use munka in my throat chakra to remove any and all blockages from there.
Maybe I should do that.
I don't want to stop Daaz though, even if I don't see/feel any immediate results... I think the attacks I received out of nowhere were not "random". I'm probably doing something right. And feeling like shit (if it's not an attack) means that I'm probably unblocking something (past life issues or emotions come to the surface); so that's also good.

Now, as for my daily schedule (in regards to time)... Well, we'll see. I mean, insofar it seems like I can handle what I'm doing - though I'll need to restart the blue energy meditation and doing void. I also restarted the ritual, thanks to HP Zevios's awesome app/new site! But I'll need to start another meditation for my throat chakra too... lol. It's either one extreme or the other.

I do want my day to be full. It's like, when I have free time (such as, in my days off work) I get stressed out - resorting to daydreaming instead, leaving the meditations for last minute, and hardly being able to do them because of being extremely sleepy.
Sorry if I seem like I'm going back and forth with this. I really do feel that way.

#20

Hey panic attacks can onset for a lot of reasons, stress and/or past trauma. If you have ever had anything quite bad happen to you or have ptsd of any sort, sometimes things can trigger that without you even knowing. Subconscious reminders of an event. Don’t go head first into your subconscious and when something makes you uncomfortable just stop, but try to get more in touch with your emotions to figure out what is causing this. I had a panic attack when I had recently gone through too much at once. On the outside I was doing fine, but I needed to have a good breakdown for a second. I don’t think you need to use anything serious on yourself just yet. The one person who can always get me centered and calm is Satan, and he’s always been here for his people. Just take a sec to tune into him and do the meditation on Satan. He has literally -never- failed to help.

Other imbalances can cause panic attacks, hormones and caffeine can worsen it. More serious drugs, obviously, can cause mental problems that weren’t even there to begin with. If you’re amping yourself up with too much bio electricity, you can focus on your crown chakra and heart chakra, circulate it, give the excess to the gods.