About Your First Saturn Return [Updated - How To Manage This And The Good News]

Shadowcat wrote:

sailhatan88 wrote:

well this just SCARED the shit out of me reading this cause I'm 27 and I already deal with constant anxiety almost all the time so reading this and lately I've been feeling anxiety alot at times to the point thoughts of suicide come up ( which is not an option) and my roommate here is also 27 and he got beat up by someone the other day and he won't tell me why or who but he's been acting very strange and not himself lately and now reading this it all makes sense now
I'll be clinging to the gods like crazy during these times cause all the Christians here have been all acting a little strange now that I think about it wow.. I'm at a loss for words
... ..let's all get through this crazy shit together HAIL ZEUS!

This should do anything BUT scare you, as it is telling you what to prepare for and what to expect.
Saturn as we speak is about to go retrograde. Doing any necessary workings namely probably the proper planetary squares can also help offset nasty Saturn transits. I suggest everyone look at the house and planet(s) Saturn retro will hit as far as their own charts.

Yea.... I hope your right that some how I get through all of this and I come out
A more mature mentally stronger person. That'd be great thanks for the uplifting words I really needed to read that

Well this makes total sense. I've been wondering why particular emotional pain I can usually easily get over normally is sticking around for some reason. I have also been thinking about my future a fair bit but I think that co-incides with my career change.

Going into my second month with the cleansing and meditation, I have stumbled across past emotions, from my childhood and early teens. And I even get angry because of the situation of each problem. And how i used to be like compaired to the life i am living now. Having a whole new perspective and everything that I have been through! If I would have handled things a lot better as a kid? And wondering what I could have been like as a teenager! If things were a little smoother? I have experienced a lot of emotional pain in this. In the last 3 days into this. I also know that writing down the situation along with meditation! :-) makes it a lot easier to cope with and making it easier for me to map out the problems

CandiceLee1313 wrote:

Going into my second month with the cleansing and meditation, I have stumbled across past emotions, from my childhood and early teens. And I even get angry because of the situation of each problem. And how i used to be like compaired to the life i am living now. Having a whole new perspective and everything that I have been through! If I would have handled things a lot better as a kid? And wondering what I could have been like as a teenager! If things were a little smoother? I have experienced a lot of emotional pain in this. In the last 3 days into this. I also know that writing down the situation along with meditation! :-) makes it a lot easier to cope with and making it easier for me to map out the problems

Beautiful. That is the point of meditation. Keep going at it.

Yea I think I freaked out a little to much about this when I first read this
I believe my first Saturn experience was when my whole life got changed in a negative way resulting in me almost losing my life and imay never be the same as I used to be so that's why I when I think of Saturn I think of death and doom and especially VIOLENCE cause thats all i experienced my first time, but after reading all the other opinions on here I see how Saturn can scare someone to change there life for the better and I seriously i did not think Saturn could ever be anything positive for someone's life.... the gods have got me through some of the worse things that could possibly happen to someone
So I believe I'll be fine I just misinterpreted the topic when i first read it

Hi Guys,
I have felt emotional pain regarding my past memories.I felt worthless whole of my teenage years.Does this mean I was going through a Saturn return at that point of time?I have Saturn positioned in the 7th house due to which I had poor communication skills with people.All the emotional pain has resurfaced after starting meditation 2 months back.

Regards,
BabySatan

Let's say that I have reached the age of 30 this year , after dedicating in 2016 my whole infrastructure changed , almost all of the people I knew I have discarded them , it's better and I am in more control . It did piss me off sometimes , started drinking strongly for some years , but every day I gained more knowledge until in 2020 I decided to reduce the smoking and the drinking , a process I thought painful but it was more irritating than painful . By now I can say that I don't smoke and avoid drinking . I knew years ago that I was heading to a slow cold turkey , the drinking and smoking was also connected to a social element . I know that the only way for me is by staying isolated and to start working on the satanic workings , I can only describe the feeling as the most clear of all of them , I don't just ,,know'' , I understand in me , in myself , that this is the way forward , because I can take it . Don't know for sure if this was a 6 years Saturn process in discarding all the toxic people around me and the toxins in me , but I feel liberated . I feel darkness in the year 2022 , the first half, the way the world is now in this stage , it should have been better , but I get that it is all part of the plan , I admit that it got to me , for a while in march and april I felt only hate and rage for humanity ,wanted everyone to feel pain , to go down . It went away slowly after Beltane . It is how I expected , the inevitable up and down . I need to master this inevitability , to not get taken by it . Meditation is key .

HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

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I don't know if this is the right place to post this but I need your help. I'm in a bad situation, I can't explain the whole situation right here because I don't want the enemy to know about this but something happened and right now I'm not in my house and I can't do my full meditation program or a spell to fix this situation. It's definitely my fault because I should have seen that something like this could have happened but for various reasons I did not do the right thing, It probably has to do with Saturn too because it is sexting with a major planet in my chart that has to do with this situation and even Pluto. I don't know a lot about astrology but I can see these aspects. Now I did clean a lot but I have to say my protection was not the best, this situation is complicated and something I have before I even was a Zevist, it has to do with my father.

My questions are these, even if I can't vibrate right now, can I do a lot of kundalini yoga for example to compensate? Or vibrate the mantra's mentally for empowering my chakras and for protection/cleaning?

Another question, I asked a demon to help me with this situation, I did the ritual in ToZ but I could not use candles, I just copied the sigil and did the ritual and asked for what I wanted, I even said I will give her something if it helps (100 satanas for 7 days), now my astral senses are not fully open, I only felt the energy. I understand a Demon could be busy or it may take more time to fix the situation (I asked for protection against my father and to end ***** now we are more protected than before because we are somewhere else but the second part still has not happened) what do you think about this? Do you think the Demon is just busy or there may be other reasons or maybe I did something wrong?

PLEASE, answer me, I need it. I understand now that I should have done something before because now I'm lost... I definitely will do much more protection from now on. I'm writing this here because it feels like a Saturn return.

Edward Lonsa wrote:

This was wonderful to read, thank you for taking the time to write it :)

luis wrote:

HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

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I don't know if this is the right place to post this but I need your help. I'm in a bad situation, I can't explain the whole situation right here because I don't want the enemy to know about this but something happened and right now I'm not in my house and I can't do my full meditation program or a spell to fix this situation. It's definitely my fault because I should have seen that something like this could have happened but for various reasons I did not do the right thing, It probably has to do with Saturn too because it is sexting with a major planet in my chart that has to do with this situation and even Pluto. I don't know a lot about astrology but I can see these aspects. Now I did clean a lot but I have to say my protection was not the best, this situation is complicated and something I have before I even was a Zevism, it has to do with my father.

Sounds like a fated event correlated to Saturn for sure. Saturn in general can bring issues with parents, but also certain authorities in one's life.

luis wrote:

My questions are these, even if I can't vibrate right now, can I do a lot of kundalini yoga for example to compensate? Or vibrate the mantra's mentally for empowering my chakras and for protection/cleaning?

Yes, but this cannot be forever, as the stimulation needs to be talked too into vibration. But you CAN, if you are under pressed circumstances, do only Hatha, Pranayama and Kundalini Yoga to stay energetic and strong during this you have to go through.

luis wrote:

Another question, I asked a demon to help me with this situation, I did the ritual in ToZ but I could not use candles, I just copied the sigil and did the ritual and asked for what I wanted, I even said I will give her something if it helps (100 satanas for 7 days), now my astral senses are not fully open, I only felt the energy. I understand a Demon could be busy or it may take more time to fix the situation (I asked for protection against my father and to end *********** now we are more protected than before because we are somewhere else but the second part still has not happened) what do you think about this? Do you think the Demon is just busy or there may be other reasons or maybe I did something wrong?

The Demon will guide you out of this situation, but you need to follow their "advice", as in the correct thoughts and that type of thing. They will always help you. Being moved away is definitely a sign of help, especially if it happened immediately. Keep an open mind, and if you are being threatened in a very serious manner, might as well call the police even or whatever other measures you might have to take.

luis wrote:

PLEASE, answer me, I need it. I understand now that I should have done something before because now I'm lost... I definitely will do much more protection from now on. I'm writing this here because it feels like a Saturn return.

Yes, letting down one's protection is catastrophic. It must not be allowed to happen. I wish you luck and hope I hear a good update from you soon. Stay strong.

I had my first Saturn return on August 2021, shortly after my 27th birthday.
It was horrible. I lost sleep over it. I felt empty, unmotivated and all the other symptoms of depression.
I won't say the event that caused it but it made me realize something.
It made me realize I had to do something about it.
So I eventually stopped brooding and started the 40 day meditation program.
Now I'm happy to say I've been meditating consistently everyday since the start of this year!
And I am so much happier for it

So while a Saturn return may kick your ass, it may also whip you into condition and motivate you to get stuff done!

What is sigil of Thoth?? because I want send my energy watching his sigil

Hail Enki!!!!!!!

luis wrote:

HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

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I am sorry, I was not expected to answer. But I just wished to mention, Algiz works and works fast as every other rune, when it is vibrated in a way HPs Pythia told: into Chakras, as if you were drawing or engraving them into your Chakra system i.e. Soul (which therefore is called "Tree" in myths). For example, A - into base, L - into crown, G - into left temple, Iz - into right temple.

This can be done in one's mind.

Yagami Light wrote:

For me personally and other people I know, during the Saturn return we all felt like we wanted to do more and were dissatisfied with our current situation, but obstacles kept happening, preventing us from acting.

I personally, during and after my Saturn return, I've started to question what's the purpose of my existence. As things got so hard, instead of trying to find a reason to live and fight for, and keep trying, I just wanted/want to stop fighting alltogether, but I know that death wouldn't solve anything.

Pretty much what I went thru myself. I really do think if I hadn't been doing the ToZ meditations all the years prior then it could of been worse. It still was bad personally and there were some lingering emotional problems left over but I feel like this post virtually wiped them away.

I can sit down and literally "see" how HP HC's advice would of helped a lot so I too recommend to go about this transit in the way as stated by him.

Edward Lonsa wrote:

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This is a great post. I put the title of the book on my list of books to read. It sounds like it's aligning with the pattern of thinking I've been having lately but on a bit more advance level so I would love to read that book.

Going thru this post I could definitely come with examples of the what you're describing here from personal experiences to others I've known and found it very interesting.

Thank you for sharing this. :)

Thank you for the useful information.

I'm in the middle of it now. My natal Saturn is in my second house. So it's pretty bad.
But the Gods helped a lot. This year I did 2 Jupiter squares to improve my financial situation.
I plan to add a Sun square to offset the negative birth effects.
So maybe it will be better.

Greetings,
In addition to meditating and focusing on cleaning my aura, whenever I see an upcoming negative planetary transit, I decide to stay home and away from people for the duration of said transit.

My question is:
Is staying home and isolating myself a valid strategy or the right approach to minimizing planetary misfortune?

luis wrote:

I don't know if this is the right place to post this but I need your help. I'm in a bad situation.......

Update me on the situation as well Luis, you helped me a lot with very basic questions of mine at start, I genuinely want you to get through all of this without taking any further damage.

Gods did hear you they always do and they also look out for us more than we think they do.Trust in Them everything is going in positive direction.

HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

Do people who have a very prominent Saturn, specifically in one of the Houses of Life, experience this transit in an overall positive way?

I mean, it hasn't been exactly a pleasurable journey, but I suppose my strong Saturnian attitude to life makes me face this as positive.

My Saturn has always been left "untamed" and for many years I would always struggle with bad habits, lack of discipline and consistency which would ultimately translate into severe depression and other Saturn-related afflictions. Even though I tried to meditate, because I never acknowledged what Saturn was trying to teach me, I never succeeded in Zevism or life in general.

It wasn't until I began feeling the effects of my first Saturn Return that this got more and more intense until I was almost broken beyond repair, I was at my lowest point in life and almost ready to give it up altogether, the pain and the suffering were so severe. But with the little force I had left in me, I was able to finally come to terms with the lessons it was trying to teach me and I acted upon these, imposing changes within me that would eventually turn the course of my life to the opposite direction, forever. I have since been drastically improving all areas of my life to the point I am now a completely new man. Saturn's blockages and restrictions can be felt in a strong way that sometimes hinders my ability but as long as I get back to the message and the lesson it is trying to teach me, I always succeed regardless of whatever life makes me go through.

This was the most valuable transit I have ever been through, and given my untamed Saturnian nature at the time, it could only have happened that way. Now, in this new chapter of my life, I tap into these forces forever transmuting them into something positive and useful, using them to achieve my most ambitious goals in life.

Thank you for this sermon, HP Zevios Metathronos, and thank you to all that shared your experience and knowledge about this particular transit.

HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

luis wrote:

HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

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I don't know if this is the right place to post this but I need your help. I'm in a bad situation, I can't explain the whole situation right here because I don't want the enemy to know about this but something happened and right now I'm not in my house and I can't do my full meditation program or a spell to fix this situation. It's definitely my fault because I should have seen that something like this could have happened but for various reasons I did not do the right thing, It probably has to do with Saturn too because it is sexting with a major planet in my chart that has to do with this situation and even Pluto. I don't know a lot about astrology but I can see these aspects. Now I did clean a lot but I have to say my protection was not the best, this situation is complicated and something I have before I even was a Zevism, it has to do with my father.

Sounds like a fated event correlated to Saturn for sure. Saturn in general can bring issues with parents, but also certain authorities in one's life.

luis wrote:

My questions are these, even if I can't vibrate right now, can I do a lot of kundalini yoga for example to compensate? Or vibrate the mantra's mentally for empowering my chakras and for protection/cleaning?

Yes, but this cannot be forever, as the stimulation needs to be talked too into vibration. But you CAN, if you are under pressed circumstances, do only Hatha, Pranayama and Kundalini Yoga to stay energetic and strong during this you have to go through.

luis wrote:

Another question, I asked a demon to help me with this situation, I did the ritual in ToZ but I could not use candles, I just copied the sigil and did the ritual and asked for what I wanted, I even said I will give her something if it helps (100 satanas for 7 days), now my astral senses are not fully open, I only felt the energy. I understand a Demon could be busy or it may take more time to fix the situation (I asked for protection against my father and to end *********** now we are more protected than before because we are somewhere else but the second part still has not happened) what do you think about this? Do you think the Demon is just busy or there may be other reasons or maybe I did something wrong?

The Demon will guide you out of this situation, but you need to follow their "advice", as in the correct thoughts and that type of thing. They will always help you. Being moved away is definitely a sign of help, especially if it happened immediately. Keep an open mind, and if you are being threatened in a very serious manner, might as well call the police even or whatever other measures you might have to take.

luis wrote:

PLEASE, answer me, I need it. I understand now that I should have done something before because now I'm lost... I definitely will do much more protection from now on. I'm writing this here because it feels like a Saturn return.

Yes, letting down one's protection is catastrophic. It must not be allowed to happen. I wish you luck and hope I hear a good update from you soon. Stay strong.

Thank you, I evoked the Demon the night before a situation happened and we moved somewhere else. We are definitely safe but stressed. I definitely have thoughts on how to fix the situation and I'm sure the Demon and Satan are helping. I just don't understand why the secon request was not fullfield yet, do they want me to do something about it? (With spells of course) or it may take more time for some reasons?