About Your First Saturn Return [Updated - How To Manage This And The Good News]

I still have 4-6 years until then. Can a Saturn transit be completely sublimated if you are bolstered spiritually by 28-30?

Also, off topic, is it true that the age of 33 is a sacred age and typically when one has the best chance at reaching spiritual heights?

well this just SCARED the shit out of me reading this cause I'm 27 and I already deal with constant anxiety almost all the time so reading this and lately I've been feeling anxiety alot at times to the point thoughts of suicide come up ( which is not an option) and my roommate here is also 27 and he got beat up by someone the other day and he won't tell me why or who but he's been acting very strange and not himself lately and now reading this it all makes sense now
I'll be clinging to the gods like crazy during these times cause all the Christians here have been all acting a little strange now that I think about it wow.. I'm at a loss for words
... ..let's all get through this crazy shit together HAIL ZEUS!

I feel like Im going to be very nervous around my first return bc of my saturn placement and the number of planets that will be in conjunction and/or being in the same area as my saturn. Still getting my reading done to see what it could all mean and what to watch out for.

For those with a first house placed natal Saturn, how will things be different from a normal Saturn return?

Very useful information, thank you. I will prepare well in advance for my first Saturn return.

I had some transits including a Pluto transit that made me feel that way, maybe not as severely as a Saturn return; These were days of regrets, crying, but they forced me to face what I needed to fix in my life. If I look back, It was probably the best thing that could have happened to me.

HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

Since many of you are a younger generation of Zevism, those of you around 27-30, might experience within the next years your first Saturn Return. Effects might be already a little felt for some.

You must know, that this is a violent transitory aspect, which, no matter what you have succeeded at, it will come to test it all. It's not a very positive time for a person. Certain other aspects and transits can help you, but this one is still a very tough one.

One must keep in mind, that no matter what they see, they have around as much time as their first Return. This transit can make you feel as you have been useless, done nothing, or all things in your life have been mistakes, bringing with it a lot of other negative events. The house in which Saturn is seated in your Natal Chart, can be indicative on what this is going to hit mostly.

Many people due to lack of life experience, or not understanding how life works, are very quick to judge themselves harshly and negatively. You'll go through hard times in life, that is life.

There are also many people who just run from what is perceived as "negative" or "trying". This aspect will hit hardest on these people, and from there on, it depends on how these people will go about managing this.

Emotional pain, garbage, misfortune, or all sorts of other negativity might be consistent with this transit, and look like it is taking too much on you, same as external events. It's very rare that one experiences this transit without a lot of opposition, so feeling like you are being opposed by the world or very negative, is also likely to happen.

For these transits, one must definitely keep meditating. Accepting Saturn's lessons [not destruction, the LESSONS], can be crucial. For example, Saturn might make you depressed over certain things that you can fix, and you must look behind the causes of said negativity or opposition to try to address it, where this is possible. This transit needs to be made a lesson out of.

One must also bear closely at heart, that the Gods are going to be with you and support you, and that you are not alone in this situation. Additionally, a transit that negative won't occur for at least 7 or 14 years, and the second return will take approximately anywhere from 27 to 30 years. In other words, you have little to worry about after this first transit where Saturn is concerned, and the good times are going to be ahead after this very negative transit leaves you.

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

Thank you for this information High Priest. I might have already faced this. Considering the fact that this year has been the most difficult for me and I have Considered to have learnt and advanced the most through pain and hardship.

How do I learn more about the Saturn Transit? What do I do? I am actually alittle bit scared because I feel like i was to almost die in this period. I really do need to know more about the Saturn Transit.

You mean this Transit is happening/ or has happened? Or will happen? And it lasts for years or months or days?

I am sorry for the many questions, I am curious by nature hence the name; I am NOT lazy just Very very Curious and so if you guide me to the right information/Link, will be glad to learn more on this.

Does this include people outside of that age range i have made a pretty bad decisions lately lost a lot of friends over it and now have experienced what you are talking about playing a lot of crap over in my head from the past mostly kind of helps me to move in a better way though has made me take up a lot of changes in my life for better.

HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

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Would you recommend, or have tried, raising energies such as Sun energy, in the form of a Square (even a mediocre sign) or through a regular working, as a means of countering such as transit?

To me, I believe even a small amount of time, like 20 minutes, spent raising energy to directly transmute the transit, would go a long way toward reducing unnecessary stress. Beyond the timeframe of one square, I imagine someone could continue a working for even a very long time throughout this transit, or others.

My question is whether you believe this is worth it or not? I seem to believe it is, but have no direct experience. Yet, you list other activities like keeping clean and empowered, which act indirectly to Saturn, so why not direct action?

Thanks for your sermon.

If I didn't know better not to worry, I'd almost be seeing this warning of violent Saturn coming in a few years for me. I had two very violent dreams last night which were a lot more visceral than normal. Usually I have a lot of fun in dreams where I can simulate combat, but these felt very real like life and death.

The first involved being ambushed with family by some spear welding maniac, it was like a completely different era, the buildings looked so old and in the middle of such a beautiful forest like I'd never seen before. It was weirdly exhilarating how raw it felt when I had to fight back and drove a stick through their head, but feeling of the adrenaline wearing off just woke me up, until I could sleep again only for the second dream with a much more violent ending as I was attacked and choked out by two people, and what looked like my head taken off by the second guy while the first had me pinned. I couldn't really get that image or feeling of my own head being disconnected while it was lifted up, for a while until I started the day tired after waking up from that.

I don't think dreams like this have any real meaning, but this reminded me of it, felt like I should just get it out of my head.

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HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

Shadowcat wrote:

Can a really strong AOP completely negate all Saturn transit and its return?

I have many years till Saturn return, and i m spending 30 minutes each day for AOP and will continue to do that as far as i can see in future.

Building this up for many years won’t it completely negate saturn’s effects?

Can Saturn square for spiritual purposes help with this situation?

For me personally and other people I know, during the Saturn return we all felt like we wanted to do more and were dissatisfied with our current situation, but obstacles kept happening, preventing us from acting.

I personally, during and after my Saturn return, I've started to question what's the purpose of my existence. As things got so hard, instead of trying to find a reason to live and fight for, and keep trying, I just wanted/want to stop fighting alltogether, but I know that death wouldn't solve anything.

It could be Saturn's fault, it could be some hormonal imbalance I'm not aware of that's making me see everything so negatively etc.

I do believe that other people have it so much worse, and I guess I was spoiled and never learned to walk on my two feet. So, an incident that may seem gigantic and torture for me, it may be insignificant for others. Everyone faces their Saturn return differently.

It is true that Saturn makes a person mature into an adult. To those of us who are in denial and don't want to fight, we're just gonna have a hard time facing life.

If someone is below 27 years old, they won't be affected much? Or does it depend on ones natal chart and spiritual progress and workings?
A little confused here.

In addition to HP Zevios Metathronos's advice, many people actually have a very positive Saturn return: getting married, finishing higher education, having their first child, buying their first home, and so on.

One woman I knew, did 3 things within a 10 month period of her Saturn return: got married, bought first house, had a baby.

HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

What is the kind of orb one should take for this transit? Close like 2-3 degrees? or wider?

I had one in February last year. Am I the only one here who went through their first Saturn return? I can’t be…

Thank you very much for the information HP!
Does someone having their natal Saturn retrograde affect that persons Saturn return in any major way? Not necessarily in a positive or negative way but for how the energies manifest themselves?

HAIL ZEUS!

I remember that I started as a Zevist just after I passed my first Saturn Return at exactly that age, it was the worst time of my life, I left the gym and started to hang out with bad people and to drink alcohol, when before I always hated alcohol and the night culture of the pubs and I had never drank, I felt empty and without any goal in my life.