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Meditations: #77135 Material vs Spiritual Efforts

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To what extent can certain issues in the natal chart be offset by material efforts alone, e.g., with those who are without? For example, health issues in the natal chart, if they went full force to correct this with nutrition and exercise, would they be able to overcome these or is it impossible without spiritual intervention?

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AskSatanOperator wrote:View source

To what extent can certain issues in the natal chart be offset by material efforts alone, e.g., with those who are without? For example, health issues in the natal chart, if they went full force to correct this with nutrition and exercise, would they be able to overcome these or is it impossible without spiritual intervention?

The things are connected, if you only take care of one of them you still have problems.

Symmachos-ZEUS/SHAITAN
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AskSatanOperator wrote:View source

To what extent can certain issues in the natal chart be offset by material efforts alone, e.g., with those who are without? For example, health issues in the natal chart, if they went full force to correct this with nutrition and exercise, would they be able to overcome these or is it impossible without spiritual intervention?

The astral and physical bodies are connected; for problems it is useless to stick only to one body and neglect the other:

And yes, you need to take action. Meditation alone has less effect
https://ancient-forums.com/threads/the-way-forward-in-Zevism-taking-action.297565/

About the result:
https://ancient-forums.com/threads/on-doubt-about-magickal-workings.52278/