What if someone had strong pluto and sun signs

[The Phantom Stranger]

Bro imagine if someone had strong Sun and Pluto signs in their natal charts... This person would be a force to be reckoned with, an indomitable force... Both pluto and sun represent power and authority... Sun represents magickal power and pluto gives occult power along with black magick as well

This would be like the ultimate blessing to be born with right??

 

[WiseDragon]

Bro imagine if someone had strong Sun and Pluto signs in their natal charts... This person would be a force to be reckoned with, an indomitable force... Both pluto and sun represent power and authority... Sun represents magickal power and pluto gives occult power along with black magick as well

This would be like the ultimate blessing to be born with right??

When you have very intense energies like these in a Chart it doesn't always go well. The individual, especially with Pluto, needs to direct the energies correctly, through Spirituality, his puropse, his work and so on. Plenty of people fail to direct the intense energies and they end up either runing themselves or others in their lives.

The Sun energies also need to be managed, since they can make one very arrogant and unaware of his weaknesses.

 

[ApolloAbove [JG]]

Bro imagine if someone had strong Sun and Pluto signs in their natal charts... This person would be a force to be reckoned with, an indomitable force... Both pluto and sun represent power and authority... Sun represents magickal power and pluto gives occult power along with black magick as well

This would be like the ultimate blessing to be born with right??

Depends on which House the planets are located in. Pluto in 5th acts differently than Pluto in 12th.

 

[Satya]

I used to be around people who have Sun conjunct Pluto in their charts, tight aspect, and they usually grapple with their relationship with power.They act weird when it comes to power in their personal lives in my experience. They tend to want to be in control, but they are low-key about it and try to exert control through social means/ soft skills at first. They also have a tendency to be more skeptical and read into everthing, as in everthing could have a motive or agenda behind it.

Just a random tidbit about Pluto I'd like to share: In the most negative manifestation it can introduce you to the "underworld," meaning the dark (taboo) side of life, like being around the wrong crowd if you know what I mean. There's a reason why it rules organized crime. A strong Sun/Pluto could mean many things, for the most part the manifestations are mundane, but on the rare case could mean something sinister like I mentioned. '

 

[The Phantom Stranger]

I used to be around people who have Sun conjunct Pluto in their charts, tight aspect, and they usually grapple with their relationship with power.They act weird when it comes to power in their personal lives in my experience. They tend to want to be in control, but they are low-key about it and try to exert control through social means/ soft skills at first. They also have a tendency to be more skeptical and read into everthing, as in everthing could have a motive or agenda behind it.

Just a random tidbit about Pluto I'd like to share: In the most negative manifestation it can introduce you to the "underworld," meaning the dark (taboo) side of life, like being around the wrong crowd if you know what I mean. There's a reason why it rules organized crime. A strong Sun/Pluto could mean many things, for the most part the manifestations are mundane, but on the rare case could mean something sinister like I mentioned. '

Interesting

 

[The Phantom Stranger]

Pluto itself seems so overpowered. Just saying

Pluto in eighth house :

This placement gives formidable strength and endurance, along with a remarkable life force. There is often a high sex drive. Life is serious business for these people, and many have a do or die attitude. Occult gifts such as clairvoyance, clairaudience, and telepathy are pronounced and very common with Pluto in the eighth house. These people have a natural talent for research and investigation. There can be secrecy in regards to hidden debts, and in extreme cases, there can be dealings with loan sharks and money involving underworld connections. These people often have secret sexual fetishes. They are prone to getting involved in drastic life/death circumstances. Many activities are carried on in secret and only manifest during the final stages of development. People with this position must have a sexual outlet for their over all mental and physical health, as their drive is much stronger than most and can turn into other things of an unpleasant nature, if not attended to. One noted person with Pluto in conjunction to Neptune in the eighth house achieved the Magnum Opus

So pluto in its native house is incredibly powerful.
It even gives considerable strength although people here told me only Mars rules strength not pluto.

 

[Satya]

In my experience, it’s like that only if it’s relevant and powerful in the chart.

Take these interpretations as to what could happen to the person in a positive or negative way. If badly placed then the more negative/problematic manifestations appear. The stronger/more relevant the more potent the manifestations (in a good/bad way)

My friend born a week before me has Pluto in a powerful aspect to a personal planet—it’s definitely marked in his personality and personal life.

Compared to me? I’m not very plutonic when it comes to personality. Though, it does manifest in some form, but it’s less dramatic than what the descriptions have you believe. :mrgreen:

 

[Yurei]

Pluto itself seems so overpowered. Just saying

Pluto in eighth house :

This placement gives formidable strength and endurance, along with a remarkable life force. There is often a high sex drive. Life is serious business for these people, and many have a do or die attitude. Occult gifts such as clairvoyance, clairaudience, and telepathy are pronounced and very common with Pluto in the eighth house. These people have a natural talent for research and investigation. There can be secrecy in regards to hidden debts, and in extreme cases, there can be dealings with loan sharks and money involving underworld connections. These people often have secret sexual fetishes. They are prone to getting involved in drastic life/death circumstances. Many activities are carried on in secret and only manifest during the final stages of development. People with this position must have a sexual outlet for their over all mental and physical health, as their drive is much stronger than most and can turn into other things of an unpleasant nature, if not attended to. One noted person with Pluto in conjunction to Neptune in the eighth house achieved the Magnum Opus

So pluto in its native house is incredibly powerful.
It even gives considerable strength although people here told me only Mars rules strength not pluto.

Pluto is the higher octave of Mars, so there is some overlap in what they rule.

 

[13th_Wolf]

Bro imagine if someone had strong Sun and Pluto signs in their natal charts... This person would be a force to be reckoned with, an indomitable force... Both pluto and sun represent power and authority... Sun represents magickal power and pluto gives occult power along with black magick as well

This would be like the ultimate blessing to be born with right??

A proportion of all people have this and a way smaller proportion of them actually have the tremendous benefits. It requires development, whether someone is pushed early on and endures due to other factors bringing it out of them or they bring it out of themselves through application of discipline.

People who have both of these planets strong will have raw willpower but it needs to be trained. They are also more prone to extremes of behaviour that could end in ruin by potentially quite a few things. Its the same principle of: a lot of energy = more powerful thoughts and drives + accumulated negative energy in soul = ruin. If the boring work of cleaning and correcting yourself is not done, what is strong about you comes to work against you, like riding a limo off a cliff.

Negative outlook is potentially more powerful here, addictions can be more powerful, bad karma and learned behaviours can be harder to rid yourself of, aberrant behaviour (like criminal, spiteful behaviour) are more powerful, becoming what you hated etc. Pluto can make someone feel deeply wronged, vengeful also self-hating etc. and that they can therefore do no wrong + who cares anyway, fuck it, all or nothing.

If you are born with these energies its a more challenging experience early on and can feed other existing problems unless its balanced/sublimated.

 

[13th_Wolf]

A better word than strong would be prominent in this context. "Strong" planets are not like this, but someone for example who worked on their planetary characteristics would have "strong" planets. If a significant aspect leads to ill-behaviour in the context of the whole chart it is not "strong" but it is unbalanced by significant features of the chart, which within the ultimate context of the chart most probably weakens the person who is not aware and knows themselves.

This is the power of astrological knowledge from the Gods. These things can be turned around the right way with acknowledgement and effort and you realise this more and more as you look up to it and make the tough choices for your own good.

Strength in astrology is a balance.

 

[13th_Wolf]

A proportion of all people have this and a way smaller proportion of them actually have the tremendous benefits. It requires development, whether someone is pushed early on and endures due to other factors bringing it out of them or they bring it out of themselves through application of discipline.

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If you are born with these energies its a more challenging experience early on and can feed other existing problems unless its balanced/sublimated.

This is also how multiple people can be born on the same day and time which is a powerful chart, but turn out completely differently and be totally different people. The power of the Yin aspect or "dark side" of existence, it completely smothers, transforms and abstracts people to be different. The depth is similar, but one might be consumed by it more or in different ways than another. This can also be generic and benign differences.