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What about banning and prosecuting smoking?

Sunny said:
This business is kind of stupid because it is toxic. What a strange advertisement. A few years ago when I smoked, I hated those bad pictures. Once I told a saleswoman to give me another packet because the picture was very disgusting and she got angry for some reason and said... "don't smoke if you don't like it boy". And I said... "listen lady, we are aware of the way things are, there is no need for these disgusting pictures". And she said... "I know". And she gave me another packet with another figure, it was a kind of prison, the door made with big cigarettes instead of irons :lol:
This is the peak state of Judeo faith is this sort of nothing you do is right or satisfactory. Everything has to be tied up in some sort of shame, cost, condition, the people most likely to set "let people enjoy things" don't enjoy anything. They physically cannot fathom the idea that a thing is just meant to be enjoyed without self sacrifice, without fetishizing, without reprise or resistance from others, and many have fallen into this loosh trap most of the time unconscious to the fact.

https://drhealthbenefits.com/herbal/leaves/health-benefits-of-organic-tobacco

This doctor takes it even further than I do claiming tobacco can cure HIV!
 
Sunny said:
This would completely ruin the companies in question, no one would want to pay taxes of 90€ for a packet of cigarettes. And it still would not solve the problem, people would find illegal alternatives or attack the government.
Why do you care about these companies? They deserve to go broke for killing people.
 
Sunny said:
Veritá_666 said:
Druas said:
Smoking can be healthy.
Even jews who sell cigarettes tell you that it is bad for you and will kill you.

This business is kind of stupid because it is toxic. What a strange advertisement. A few years ago when I smoked, I hated those bad pictures. Once I told a saleswoman to give me another packet because the picture was very disgusting and she got angry for some reason and said... "don't smoke if you don't like it boy". And I said... "listen lady, we are aware of the way things are, there is no need for these disgusting pictures". And she said... "I know". And she gave me another packet with another figure, it was a kind of prison, the door made with big cigarettes instead of irons :lol:
They do it because they are obliged to, this should stem from a complaint made against a cigarette company, but I do not remember the details.

One way or another, they also tell you that smoking kills (even if they are obliged to say so).

Then alcohol is supposed to be even more harmful than cigarettes, but that is advertised everywhere.
 
Veritá_666 said:
Sunny said:
Veritá_666 said:
Even jews who sell cigarettes tell you that it is bad for you and will kill you.

This business is kind of stupid because it is toxic. What a strange advertisement. A few years ago when I smoked, I hated those bad pictures. Once I told a saleswoman to give me another packet because the picture was very disgusting and she got angry for some reason and said... "don't smoke if you don't like it boy". And I said... "listen lady, we are aware of the way things are, there is no need for these disgusting pictures". And she said... "I know". And she gave me another packet with another figure, it was a kind of prison, the door made with big cigarettes instead of irons :lol:
They do it because they are obliged to, this should stem from a complaint made against a cigarette company, but I do not remember the details.

One way or another, they also tell you that smoking kills (even if they are obliged to say so).

Then alcohol is supposed to be even more harmful than cigarettes, but that is advertised everywhere.

All right, I understand. As for alcohol, yes it seems to be more harmful than cigarettes if abused. Alcohol is advertised freely because it is considered quite safe by people.
 
The Outlaw Torn said:
Sunny said:
This would completely ruin the companies in question, no one would want to pay taxes of 90€ for a packet of cigarettes. And it still would not solve the problem, people would find illegal alternatives or attack the government.
Why do you care about these companies? They deserve to go broke for killing people.

I am not saying that you have to do business with diseases and harming people but I think they deserve a second chance because it is not their fault. They are not forcing anyone to smoke, they are just working to give people what they are asking for.

No one kills smokers, but they kill themselves. One can drink acid if one wants and of course one will die.
 
Sunny said:
The Outlaw Torn said:
Sunny said:
This would completely ruin the companies in question, no one would want to pay taxes of 90€ for a packet of cigarettes. And it still would not solve the problem, people would find illegal alternatives or attack the government.
Why do you care about these companies? They deserve to go broke for killing people.

I am not saying that you have to do business with diseases and harming people but I think they deserve a second chance because it is not their fault. They are not forcing anyone to smoke, they are just working to give people what they are asking for.

No one kills smokers, but they kill themselves. One can drink acid if one wants and of course one will die.
All smoking companies are totally jewish.
 
Concerned said:
Sunny said:
This business is kind of stupid because it is toxic. What a strange advertisement. A few years ago when I smoked, I hated those bad pictures. Once I told a saleswoman to give me another packet because the picture was very disgusting and she got angry for some reason and said... "don't smoke if you don't like it boy". And I said... "listen lady, we are aware of the way things are, there is no need for these disgusting pictures". And she said... "I know". And she gave me another packet with another figure, it was a kind of prison, the door made with big cigarettes instead of irons :lol:
This is the peak state of Judeo faith is this sort of nothing you do is right or satisfactory. Everything has to be tied up in some sort of shame, cost, condition, the people most likely to set "let people enjoy things" don't enjoy anything. They physically cannot fathom the idea that a thing is just meant to be enjoyed without self sacrifice, without fetishizing, without reprise or resistance from others, and many have fallen into this loosh trap most of the time unconscious to the fact.

https://drhealthbenefits.com/herbal/leaves/health-benefits-of-organic-tobacco

This doctor takes it even further than I do claiming tobacco can cure HIV!

I am not a slaver like the jews. I have dealt with this subject very well.

Whether you like it or not, tobacco is bad for you. I am not forcing you to stop smoking, do what you want.

To confirm the claims in the article you linked you need to verify the studies and research on them and from multiple sources. Of course the benefits listed may be true, but the side effects are serious and unacceptable for many people.

I once saw a video of a Chinese surgeon, he took organs from a smoker who had an accident and died and donated his organs. And the surgeon when he took the lungs, they were smoked black, he said: What do I do with these lungs? They are useless. I cannot put them in a patient who needs them because they are too damaged and blocked. He also said: China is unfortunately like many other countries in the world among the biggest smokers. I would like to show on social media with this video (I was watching random videos and this appeared) these lungs to smokers and see if they have the courage to continue smoking......
 
Sunny said:
Will it work? Or will people rebel against the Government for such a choice, as if you take away their food? 🤔

Like all drugs or other bad choices, people will stop on their own when the culture they live in influences them to do so. We live in clownworld where people are negatively influenced to do drugs, not stop them. This is something that could be solved without magic, but will certainly be resolved as Satanism grows.
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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Sunny said:
Will it work? Or will people rebel against the Government for such a choice, as if you take away their food? 🤔

Like all drugs or other bad choices, people will stop on their own when the culture they live in influences them to do so. We live in clownworld where people are negatively influenced to do drugs, not stop them. This is something that could be solved without magic, but will certainly be resolved as Satanism grows.

Once Satanism becomes the world religion it used to be, I'm pretty sure everyone will adopt healthier habits, such as farming and growing food, using sacred geometry to create healthier places to live, etc.
 
Aquarius said:
Sunny said:
The Outlaw Torn said:
Why do you care about these companies? They deserve to go broke for killing people.

I am not saying that you have to do business with diseases and harming people but I think they deserve a second chance because it is not their fault. They are not forcing anyone to smoke, they are just working to give people what they are asking for.

No one kills smokers, but they kill themselves. One can drink acid if one wants and of course one will die.
All smoking companies are totally jewish.

Are you sure? They are infiltrated everywhere in the world and possess many things, however these possessions do not belong to them alone.
 
My problem with banning something is that it takes considerable amount of government resources to enforce the ban, and in the end you have to weigh in everything and ask yourself “is it worth it”? Why do people even resort to drugs (nicotine is a drug) in the first place? Maybe it is our shitty society devoid of any spirituality, so people look forward to drugs to ease their pain a little bit?

In my humble opinion, the better option is taxation of such destructive habits. You want to smoke? Fine. Just pay up. If that is still not enough for you to reconsider your life choices, I don’t think there is much more we can do? Throw you in prison maybe? Ok, now you are state’s burden, your stay in prison is not free for the state.

Taxation and education. Maybe even a bit of public shaming. Shaming is a powerful tool.
 
If one removes the clown vision goggles and looks at this matter (and similar issues) through a lens of common sense and logic, the solution is simple.

The people running these companies will have all of their assets frozen and seized by the state and will be tried and publicly executed for selling addictive poisons to the masses and destroying citizens' health for profits. As is a more than fair penalty for poisoning a nation's citizens, I think their souls should be purged too but that's another discussion.

Additionally, all of these addictive poisons will be banned completely as a nation is only harmed by having it's citizens addicted to poisons such as these. In a logical world, pushing and selling poisons to the masses is considered a crime against humanity but in jewish clown world it's just another Tuesday.

It's crazy to me how people view such crimes against humanity as something completely normal.


Banning a product is not a solution because the source of these poisons are the rotten souls who create and sell them. You ban one poison and they will create a new one to replace it and continue to poison the masses one week later. The solution is quite simple.

Heads. Spikes. Walls.


These people are literally poisoning our children for profits. Fuck banning smoking. These people must be brought to justice. Real justice.
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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Sunny said:
Will it work? Or will people rebel against the Government for such a choice, as if you take away their food? 🤔

Like all drugs or other bad choices, people will stop on their own when the culture they live in influences them to do so. We live in clownworld where people are negatively influenced to do drugs, not stop them. This is something that could be solved without magic, but will certainly be resolved as Satanism grows.

Yes, you are right. Advertising can also do a lot if it is correctly addressed, for example, the consequences of obesity. Many people ignore and underestimate obesity.
 
Concerned said:
https://drhealthbenefits.com/herbal/leaves/health-benefits-of-organic-tobacco

This doctor takes it even further than I do claiming tobacco can cure HIV!
The positives can be achieved via healthy methods and side effects are not limited to the ones listed in the article. Further, lungs are not meant for inhaling smoke as it dries them up. This is the fundamental cause for lung related issues from smoking according to Chinese Medicine.

All in all, a bad deal.
 
Henu the Great said:
Concerned said:
Smoking has many positive qualities OP. Ask yourself who told you smoking was bad? And why in an otherwise degenerate atmosphere with far more awful things people do and even argue it's healthy like pornography does the system still focus on smoking?

But even ignoring the obvious, nicotine itself has many qualities that improve cognitive function, reduce estrogen, promote metabolic increase, and actually wards off developing certain kinds of cancer. Everyone should smoke, dogs and children should smoke. Maybe not cigarettes, but that's like comparing a steak to a McDonald's cheeseburger.

Or look at coffee. No-one says coffee is bad for people.
Both are bad for health and not necessary for healthy functioning of Human being in any way whatsoever. You do you, but do not propagate falsehoods being okay here.

Well we're at a point here where we have to look at the front page sermon where it mentions science...
 
Banning tobacco would deeply touch the enemy as the jews make money and damage Gentiles. Would not be easy then, but would be a big goal!
Also, this will free many lands for agriculture, what's the point of raising tobacco when you could raise i.e. medical herbs, healthy food, etc.
 
To raise prices (levy tax), reduce imports, put people in jail ... society still needs to be governed by some ruling body.

I wonder what the JOS community feels about the future of human governance — do we want it? What does it look like? Global / country level / more local ? Is there taxes? How are they structured? What Dow’s voting look like?

Apologies if there is already a thread on this.

hail Satan!
 
To raise prices (levy tax), reduce imports, put people in jail ... society still needs to be governed by some ruling body.

I wonder what the JOS community feels about the future of human governance — do we want it? What does it look like? Global / country level / more local ? Is there taxes? How are they structured? What Dow’s voting look like?

Apologies if there is already a thread on this.

hail Satan!
 
Artoria Pendragon said:
To raise prices (levy tax), reduce imports, put people in jail ... society still needs to be governed by some ruling body.

I wonder what the JOS community feels about the future of human governance — do we want it? What does it look like? Global / country level / more local ? Is there taxes? How are they structured? What Dow’s voting look like?

Apologies if there is already a thread on this.

hail Satan!

Leadership and governments will always and forever be needed.

Studying JoS and national, regional and global politics, I realised that there is hierarchy. So there is authority on every level.
 
Larissa666 said:
My problem with banning something is that it takes considerable amount of government resources to enforce the ban, and in the end you have to weigh in everything and ask yourself “is it worth it”? Why do people even resort to drugs (nicotine is a drug) in the first place? Maybe it is our shitty society devoid of any spirituality, so people look forward to drugs to ease their pain a little bit?

In my humble opinion, the better option is taxation of such destructive habits. You want to smoke? Fine. Just pay up. If that is still not enough for you to reconsider your life choices, I don’t think there is much more we can do? Throw you in prison maybe? Ok, now you are state’s burden, your stay in prison is not free for the state.

Taxation and education. Maybe even a bit of public shaming. Shaming is a powerful tool.

I agree that spirituality is a great lack and deprivation and limitation of humanity. However, I think that even if humans had spirituality, they would rightly want to get more out of the material dimension as well.
 
Dahaarkan said:
If one removes the clown vision goggles and looks at this matter (and similar issues) through a lens of common sense and logic, the solution is simple.

The people running these companies will have all of their assets frozen and seized by the state and will be tried and publicly executed for selling addictive poisons to the masses and destroying citizens' health for profits. As is a more than fair penalty for poisoning a nation's citizens, I think their souls should be purged too but that's another discussion.

Additionally, all of these addictive poisons will be banned completely as a nation is only harmed by having it's citizens addicted to poisons such as these. In a logical world, pushing and selling poisons to the masses is considered a crime against humanity but in jewish clown world it's just another Tuesday.

It's crazy to me how people view such crimes against humanity as something completely normal.


Banning a product is not a solution because the source of these poisons are the rotten souls who create and sell them. You ban one poison and they will create a new one to replace it and continue to poison the masses one week later. The solution is quite simple.

Heads. Spikes. Walls.


These people are literally poisoning our children for profits. Fuck banning smoking. These people must be brought to justice. Real justice.

I say that the companies in question are not guilty, the guilty ones are the smokers.

Although in a way people in society are like children compared to the wise men in government (they should be wise), this is the choice and responsibility of people individually.

What the government should do is to inform people and promote the love of knowledge.
 
Henu the Great said:
Concerned said:
https://drhealthbenefits.com/herbal/leaves/health-benefits-of-organic-tobacco

This doctor takes it even further than I do claiming tobacco can cure HIV!
The positives can be achieved via healthy methods and side effects are not limited to the ones listed in the article. Further, lungs are not meant for inhaling smoke as it dries them up. This is the fundamental cause for lung related issues from smoking according to Chinese Medicine.

All in all, a bad deal.

This is madness.

Smoking causes damage to lungs over time — and it’s permanent

Your lungs contain around 500 million tiny air sacs called alveoli that pull oxygen from the air you breathe and release carbon dioxide when you exhale. Smoking destroys these air sacs by killing the cells that line them.

“Many structures in the body are capable of repairing themselves,” says Karam-Hage. “If you break a bone, for instance, it will eventually mend. If you cut your skin, it will heal. Even the liver can grow back sometimes if a portion of it is removed. But lung tissue doesn’t grow back. Once it’s gone, it’s gone.”

Damage to alveoli gets worse over time, too. And as lung tissue is damaged, it becomes more fibrous, making it harder for people to expand their lungs fully with each inhalation. Less lung tissue and less expansion mean less oxygen getting to all the places it’s needed. That’s why many people don’t think there’s a problem until they start feeling short of breath.

“It happens silently. So, smokers just keep walking around because they don’t feel anything,” says Karam-Hage. “And since people start out with millions of alveoli, it can take 15 or 20 years to lose enough of them to really become obvious. But once you develop something like chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), there’s no going back. Once you get to that point, you’re never going to get off the oxygen tank.”

Still, Karam-Hage notes, “It really is kind of amazing that some smokers don’t develop lung cancer. Their lungs are getting so much daily exposure to smoke and carcinogens.”

https://www.mdanderson.org/cancerwi...-smoking--3-things-to-know.h00-159540534.html
 
Engineered Trasformation said:
Banning tobacco would deeply touch the enemy as the jews make money and damage Gentiles. Would not be easy then, but would be a big goal!
Also, this will free many lands for agriculture, what's the point of raising tobacco when you could raise i.e. medical herbs, healthy food, etc.

Well for one cash I mean cuck it's not your place to dictate the free will of others :p
 
Sunny said:
I say that the companies in question are not guilty, the guilty ones are the smokers.
Sunny boy you should really reflect on this mentality you have it’s one of victim blaming and sounds like something the enemy would say you should know that some people got addicted to these substances not by choice.
 
Sunny said:
Dahaarkan said:
If one removes the clown vision goggles and looks at this matter (and similar issues) through a lens of common sense and logic, the solution is simple.

The people running these companies will have all of their assets frozen and seized by the state and will be tried and publicly executed for selling addictive poisons to the masses and destroying citizens' health for profits. As is a more than fair penalty for poisoning a nation's citizens, I think their souls should be purged too but that's another discussion.

Additionally, all of these addictive poisons will be banned completely as a nation is only harmed by having it's citizens addicted to poisons such as these. In a logical world, pushing and selling poisons to the masses is considered a crime against humanity but in jewish clown world it's just another Tuesday.

It's crazy to me how people view such crimes against humanity as something completely normal.


Banning a product is not a solution because the source of these poisons are the rotten souls who create and sell them. You ban one poison and they will create a new one to replace it and continue to poison the masses one week later. The solution is quite simple.

Heads. Spikes. Walls.


These people are literally poisoning our children for profits. Fuck banning smoking. These people must be brought to justice. Real justice.

I say that the companies in question are not guilty, the guilty ones are the smokers.

Although in a way people in society are like children compared to the wise men in government (they should be wise), this is the choice and responsibility of people individually.

What the government should do is to inform people and promote the love of knowledge.

You are looking at this matter through clown vision goggles and it's why to you this crime against humanity is just business and you blame the victims instead of the perpetrators. If you start putting toxic things into a town's water supply and you destroy the public's health over time you are considered a terrorist and either jailed for life or executed for such a crime.

But when a jewish company destroys the health of millions of gentiles for profits this is no longer a crime against humanity and it's the stupid goyim who are at fault. There is absolutely no reason why such poisons should be permitted and any real and sane leaders would not think twice about banning such poisons to safeguard their people and children. And destroy the people who create and sell such poisons.


Poisoning and destroying the health of millions of people is a crime against humanity and should be punished accordingly.
 
The Outlaw Torn said:
Sunny said:
I say that the companies in question are not guilty, the guilty ones are the smokers.
Sunny boy you should really reflect on this mentality you have it’s one of victim blaming and sounds like something the enemy would say you should know that some people got addicted to these substances not by choice.

Listen grandpa, smokers are victims of themselves. Nobody gives cigarettes to people against their will.
 
The Outlaw Torn said:
Sunny said:
I say that the companies in question are not guilty, the guilty ones are the smokers.
Sunny boy you should really reflect on this mentality you have it’s one of victim blaming and sounds like something the enemy would say you should know that some people got addicted to these substances not by choice.

Moreover, cigarette addiction can be overcome if one wants to, but if you don't want to, you won't. Many people don't stop smoking because they don't want to, and....they start smoking because they want to.

I smoked for 6-7 years almost two packs a day, once I realised what useless and harmful crap dioxide and monoxide carbon are, I stopped smoking permanently, with some difficulty but I quit.
 
Dahaarkan said:
Sunny said:
Dahaarkan said:
If one removes the clown vision goggles and looks at this matter (and similar issues) through a lens of common sense and logic, the solution is simple.

The people running these companies will have all of their assets frozen and seized by the state and will be tried and publicly executed for selling addictive poisons to the masses and destroying citizens' health for profits. As is a more than fair penalty for poisoning a nation's citizens, I think their souls should be purged too but that's another discussion.

Additionally, all of these addictive poisons will be banned completely as a nation is only harmed by having it's citizens addicted to poisons such as these. In a logical world, pushing and selling poisons to the masses is considered a crime against humanity but in jewish clown world it's just another Tuesday.

It's crazy to me how people view such crimes against humanity as something completely normal.


Banning a product is not a solution because the source of these poisons are the rotten souls who create and sell them. You ban one poison and they will create a new one to replace it and continue to poison the masses one week later. The solution is quite simple.

Heads. Spikes. Walls.


These people are literally poisoning our children for profits. Fuck banning smoking. These people must be brought to justice. Real justice.

I say that the companies in question are not guilty, the guilty ones are the smokers.

Although in a way people in society are like children compared to the wise men in government (they should be wise), this is the choice and responsibility of people individually.

What the government should do is to inform people and promote the love of knowledge.

You are looking at this matter through clown vision goggles and it's why to you this crime against humanity is just business and you blame the victims instead of the perpetrators. If you start putting toxic things into a town's water supply and you destroy the public's health over time you are considered a terrorist and either jailed for life or executed for such a crime.

But when a jewish company destroys the health of millions of gentiles for profits this is no longer a crime against humanity and it's the stupid goyim who are at fault. There is absolutely no reason why such poisons should be permitted and any real and sane leaders would not think twice about banning such poisons to safeguard their people and children. And destroy the people who create and sell such poisons.


Poisoning and destroying the health of millions of people is a crime against humanity and should be punished accordingly.

Actually, in addition to the medical point of view, I am also looking at this from a political point of view because we are also talking about the government. It is easy for us to analyse and discuss, but when you are in that position and have those responsibilities, it is not like that.

This is an open discussion, other SS people have said that banning tobacco would be a communist policy.
 
Sunny said:
Actually, in addition to the medical point of view, I am also looking at this from a political point of view because we are also talking about the government. It is easy for us to analyse and discuss, but when you are in that position and have those responsibilities, it is not like that.

This is an open discussion, other SS people have said that banning tobacco would be a communist policy.
Tobacco industry, much like illicit substance industries, is like self licking ice cream cone. Perpetual profit and death at the expense of nature and human life.

The only way to end it is to dismantle Jewish magick firstly (since the whole system relies on ignorance and blindness of Humans), and then proceed as Dahaarkan has said.

That's all there is to it, to ban or not to ban is an infantile discussion and so is considering any other alternative since values such as health and clean nature trump profit at the expense of the above and other values any time.
 
Sunny said:
Dahaarkan said:
Sunny said:
I say that the companies in question are not guilty, the guilty ones are the smokers.

Although in a way people in society are like children compared to the wise men in government (they should be wise), this is the choice and responsibility of people individually.

What the government should do is to inform people and promote the love of knowledge.

You are looking at this matter through clown vision goggles and it's why to you this crime against humanity is just business and you blame the victims instead of the perpetrators. If you start putting toxic things into a town's water supply and you destroy the public's health over time you are considered a terrorist and either jailed for life or executed for such a crime.

But when a jewish company destroys the health of millions of gentiles for profits this is no longer a crime against humanity and it's the stupid goyim who are at fault. There is absolutely no reason why such poisons should be permitted and any real and sane leaders would not think twice about banning such poisons to safeguard their people and children. And destroy the people who create and sell such poisons.


Poisoning and destroying the health of millions of people is a crime against humanity and should be punished accordingly.

Actually, in addition to the medical point of view, I am also looking at this from a political point of view because we are also talking about the government. It is easy for us to analyse and discuss, but when you are in that position and have those responsibilities, it is not like that.

This is an open discussion, other SS people have said that banning tobacco would be a communist policy.

Which politics? Real politics or clown politics?

Governments of today commit horrific atrocities for far worse reasons than to preserve the public's health. Why is it so wrong and unthinkable to imprison these terrorists poisoning the masses when your government is already imprisoning people for saying "jews bad" on twitter?

Other SS people, or other clowns?

Because to me a person who says wanting to ban poisons to protect the public's health is a communist policy is a fucking idiot. I suppose true SS leadership is allowing terrorists to freely poison your own people and destroy your nation's health?

You're making it difficult not to be rude bro. Come on, do you not see these fallacies?

Smoking is a jewish made poison and jewish made poisons, and the people who spread them have no place in our society. Why are you confused about this?
 
Henu the Great said:
Sunny said:
Actually, in addition to the medical point of view, I am also looking at this from a political point of view because we are also talking about the government. It is easy for us to analyse and discuss, but when you are in that position and have those responsibilities, it is not like that.

This is an open discussion, other SS people have said that banning tobacco would be a communist policy.
Tobacco industry, much like illicit substance industries, is like self licking ice cream cone. Perpetual profit and death at the expense of nature and human life.

The only way to end it is to dismantle Jewish magick firstly (since the whole system relies on ignorance and blindness of Humans), and then proceed as Dahaarkan has said.

That's all there is to it, to ban or not to ban is an infantile discussion and so is considering any other alternative since values such as health and clean nature trump profit at the expense of the above and other values any time.

Obviously you and Dahaarkan are right. However, I don't think this is only up to the government but also the people. However, governments are not working very well because of the jewish influence. I heard somewhere that in the 20-40s tobacco was promoted somewhat for medical uses in a similar way to marijuana now, which might in 50 years time be normalised and sold like cigarettes.
 
Druas said:
Engineered Trasformation said:
Banning tobacco would deeply touch the enemy as the jews make money and damage Gentiles. Would not be easy then, but would be a big goal!
Also, this will free many lands for agriculture, what's the point of raising tobacco when you could raise i.e. medical herbs, healthy food, etc.

Well for one cash I mean cuck it's not your place to dictate the free will of others :p

I am not sure what you mean, however, arguing on different point of views will bring to nothing.
Freeing lands as population is rapidly growing, to grow food or other useful thing, should not be neglected.
Free will, I will not debate on this, each of us has his own stance. World leaders will decide, hopefully one day, we'll have wise leaders from the Gods again.
 
Sunny said:
The Outlaw Torn said:
Sunny said:
I say that the companies in question are not guilty, the guilty ones are the smokers.
Sunny boy you should really reflect on this mentality you have it’s one of victim blaming and sounds like something the enemy would say you should know that some people got addicted to these substances not by choice.

Listen grandpa, smokers are victims of themselves. Nobody gives cigarettes to people against their will.
Following this logic then human degeneration is the fault of humans, as if they chose to be degenerate.

You have to look at it from a broader point of view, jews create problems and hide and slander real and effective solutions, and then offer you a false solution that creates even more damage.

Kids are not raised as they should be, and degeneracy runs rampant in society (jews' fault), and kids start smoking to feel better and accepted and then they will keep smoking because of stress (useless solution promoted by jews).
The real solution to this is spirituality that prevents all problems (largely slandered by jews).

The root of the blame is jews, then how can you blame someone who lives a false life based on jewish paradoxes, it would drive anyone crazy sooner or later.
 
Dahaarkan said:
Sunny said:
Dahaarkan said:
You are looking at this matter through clown vision goggles and it's why to you this crime against humanity is just business and you blame the victims instead of the perpetrators. If you start putting toxic things into a town's water supply and you destroy the public's health over time you are considered a terrorist and either jailed for life or executed for such a crime.

But when a jewish company destroys the health of millions of gentiles for profits this is no longer a crime against humanity and it's the stupid goyim who are at fault. There is absolutely no reason why such poisons should be permitted and any real and sane leaders would not think twice about banning such poisons to safeguard their people and children. And destroy the people who create and sell such poisons.


Poisoning and destroying the health of millions of people is a crime against humanity and should be punished accordingly.

Actually, in addition to the medical point of view, I am also looking at this from a political point of view because we are also talking about the government. It is easy for us to analyse and discuss, but when you are in that position and have those responsibilities, it is not like that.

This is an open discussion, other SS people have said that banning tobacco would be a communist policy.

Which politics? Real politics or clown politics?

Governments of today commit horrific atrocities for far worse reasons than to preserve the public's health. Why is it so wrong and unthinkable to imprison these terrorists poisoning the masses when your government is already imprisoning people for saying "jews bad" on twitter?

Other SS people, or other clowns?

Because to me a person who says wanting to ban poisons to protect the public's health is a communist policy is a fucking idiot. I suppose true SS leadership is allowing terrorists to freely poison your own people and destroy your nation's health?

You're making it difficult not to be rude bro. Come on, do you not see these fallacies?

Smoking is a jewish made poison and jewish made poisons, and the people who spread them have no place in our society. Why are you confused about this?

Initially I said that smoking must either be made safe or it must be banned because it is destructive. I am not confused and I stand by this idea.

Rather others have said that people should choose whether to use it or not.
 
Veritá_666 said:
Sunny said:
The Outlaw Torn said:
Sunny boy you should really reflect on this mentality you have it’s one of victim blaming and sounds like something the enemy would say you should know that some people got addicted to these substances not by choice.

Listen grandpa, smokers are victims of themselves. Nobody gives cigarettes to people against their will.
Following this logic then human degeneration is the fault of humans, as if they chose to be degenerate.

You have to look at it from a broader point of view, jews create problems and hide and slander real and effective solutions, and then offer you a false solution that creates even more damage.

Kids are not raised as they should be, and degeneracy runs rampant in society (jews' fault), and kids start smoking to feel better and accepted and then they will keep smoking because of stress (useless solution promoted by jews).
The real solution to this is spirituality that prevents all problems (largely slandered by jews).

The root of the blame is jews, then how can you blame someone who lives a false life based on jewish paradoxes, it would drive anyone crazy sooner or later.

It is complicated.
 
Sunny said:
Dahaarkan said:
Sunny said:
Actually, in addition to the medical point of view, I am also looking at this from a political point of view because we are also talking about the government. It is easy for us to analyse and discuss, but when you are in that position and have those responsibilities, it is not like that.

This is an open discussion, other SS people have said that banning tobacco would be a communist policy.

Which politics? Real politics or clown politics?

Governments of today commit horrific atrocities for far worse reasons than to preserve the public's health. Why is it so wrong and unthinkable to imprison these terrorists poisoning the masses when your government is already imprisoning people for saying "jews bad" on twitter?

Other SS people, or other clowns?

Because to me a person who says wanting to ban poisons to protect the public's health is a communist policy is a fucking idiot. I suppose true SS leadership is allowing terrorists to freely poison your own people and destroy your nation's health?

You're making it difficult not to be rude bro. Come on, do you not see these fallacies?

Smoking is a jewish made poison and jewish made poisons, and the people who spread them have no place in our society. Why are you confused about this?

Initially I said that smoking must either be made safe or it must be banned because it is destructive. I am not confused and I stand by this idea.

Rather others have said that people should choose whether to use it or not.

However, since a safe and satisfying alternative will not be created soon, the best thing would be to remove cigarettes and wait until something better is created.

The question is, how will smokers react? Can you answer that? I am actually more concerned about this than the companies.
 
Sunny said:
Sunny said:
Dahaarkan said:
Which politics? Real politics or clown politics?

Governments of today commit horrific atrocities for far worse reasons than to preserve the public's health. Why is it so wrong and unthinkable to imprison these terrorists poisoning the masses when your government is already imprisoning people for saying "jews bad" on twitter?

Other SS people, or other clowns?

Because to me a person who says wanting to ban poisons to protect the public's health is a communist policy is a fucking idiot. I suppose true SS leadership is allowing terrorists to freely poison your own people and destroy your nation's health?

You're making it difficult not to be rude bro. Come on, do you not see these fallacies?

Smoking is a jewish made poison and jewish made poisons, and the people who spread them have no place in our society. Why are you confused about this?

Initially I said that smoking must either be made safe or it must be banned because it is destructive. I am not confused and I stand by this idea.

Rather others have said that people should choose whether to use it or not.

However, since a safe and satisfying alternative will not be created soon, the best thing would be to remove cigarettes and wait until something better is created.

The question is, how will smokers react? Can you answer that? I am actually more concerned about this than the companies.

It is not just the addiction to nicotine, it is the habit that is the issue.

To want to have something in your hands. You've gotten so used to the stick..

Do you really think our Gods would do such a thing, have such an annoying habit?

The smoking of cigarettes has no place in a Satanic Society. Not now and not ever.

Even campfire smoke is bad for your health. Or when a house burns down you're also always checked in a hospital if you inhaled the smoke.
The substance doesn't matter. It is simply not great for your health.


Also regarding policies. I think in regard to smoking and certain things global policies should be in place. There are other less important things that could be done more locally.

However, we all need to be on the same page if we want to fully enter a proper Satanic Society. We cannot leave any bad things in it, lest they fester and turn up again in different places.
 
Lunar Dance 666 said:
Sunny said:
Sunny said:
Initially I said that smoking must either be made safe or it must be banned because it is destructive. I am not confused and I stand by this idea.

Rather others have said that people should choose whether to use it or not.

However, since a safe and satisfying alternative will not be created soon, the best thing would be to remove cigarettes and wait until something better is created.

The question is, how will smokers react? Can you answer that? I am actually more concerned about this than the companies.

It is not just the addiction to nicotine, it is the habit that is the issue.

To want to have something in your hands. You've gotten so used to the stick..

Do you really think our Gods would do such a thing, have such an annoying habit?

The smoking of cigarettes has no place in a Satanic Society. Not now and not ever.

Even campfire smoke is bad for your health. Or when a house burns down you're also always checked in a hospital if you inhaled the smoke.
The substance doesn't matter. It is simply not great for your health.


Also regarding policies. I think in regard to smoking and certain things global policies should be in place. There are other less important things that could be done more locally.

However, we all need to be on the same page if we want to fully enter a proper Satanic Society. We cannot leave any bad things in it, lest they fester and turn up again in different places.

Right, half the problem is habit.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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