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The art of Glamour - detrimental, or useful?

Stormblood said:
How did this turn from a topic about make-up into a topic about transgenderism and other self-delusions?

That seems to happen every time, lately. I've been wanting to post some inspiring videos for women, but have hesitated due to it certainly being turned into transgenderism and other self-delusions. I've decided to wait a bit.
 
Aquarius said:
Maybe it's just me, but I think we're just normalizing this talk about transgenderism too much, meteor is sick in the head, one can theorize all he wants, but at the end that is the simple truth.
It's just really strange reading all this stuff.

This is how the jews destroy us, it's in their Protocols of Zion. They normalize degeneracy, mutilations, abuse, drugs, pedophilia, etc etc etc, in order to make us tolerate it more and more, ultimately destroying us.

We need to set boundaries and realize that transgenderism is a mental illness and a result of delusions from thoughtforms, spells, curses, and programmings. Less time giving attention and sympathy, more time on spiritual advancement and RTRs.
 
Soul Wings said:
Aquarius said:
Maybe it's just me, but I think we're just normalizing this talk about transgenderism too much, meteor is sick in the head, one can theorize all he wants, but at the end that is the simple truth.
It's just really strange reading all this stuff.
Well look, I think people can come to that conclusion themselves if they feel that way. I think censoring is pointless unless it goes against forum rules. I personally think people are WAY, WAY overreacting to what was meant to be just a personal discussion between Meteor and I. I did not feel comfortable with the apathy/lack of understanding shown by others for their issues, so I decided to go a different route to reach out and open up, as I don't give a fuck what people -especially on the internet- think of me anyway. I have extended the offer to speak privately, but there are people from all walks of life here; and I don't see the point in censoring public discussions about these topics. Xtards would historically censor cherrypicked things they didn't like... look how that's turned out. Everyone struggles differently; People can overcome all kinds of different issues. Everyone needs someone to talk to about it, too. Maybe even a fresh take. It is a reality and we cannot move forward just sticking our heads in the sand about things we don't like/don't want to think about etc. Even Cobra was kind enough to take the time out of his day to give his take.

Stormblood said:
How did this turn from a topic about make-up into a topic about transgenderism and other self-delusions?
Regardless, it's still relevant, as makeup is usually used in early stages of gender/trans/sexuality issues. OP is still a thing and I'm still willing to hear opinions.
As for how, it's because I decided I wanted to discuss it with Meteor only about it, but everyone else joined in. And I still do. Clearly it's a hot topic :!: Just a bit hotter than I (we, perhaps) was/were expecting. To be frank with you though (not trying to be rude, just truthful), I don't care if people don't like it, because I/we want to discuss it publically, and I'm going to, unless mods have a problem with it. We are still Satanic members and this is still life experiences. I am here to expand my world view, philosophise, and I do wish to help people out if I can, in whatever way I can. People are welcome to join and leave as they please, and to read/reply, or not read/reply, and to come to their own conclusions.

Out of curiosity, did you post something? As I was quoted but nothing appears. It was deleted perhaps?
I was commenting about your comment about Adolf Hitler and i think it came off as offensive. Instead i would direct you to materials relating to Sterilization, Eugenics and Involuntary Euthanasia.

https://mega.nz/folder/IU1DCaBJ#DIBn0-A0i2i-k243uO-tXw
 
Meteor said:
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oh, and Tabby who isn't here right now...
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Yeah, no thanks. Dealing with your bs is like willingly drowning myself in a pit of mud. I'd rather watch it play from afar than engage in it needlessly anymore. You either get your shit together and start acting like a person with their head on straight, or you continue taking up space attention whoring and mocking people who just want to see you become like a sun instead of a rotting petri dish in a lab. I'm not sorry that our interests don't resemble the latter. Whatever you care to do doesn't need my involvement, you've made that quite clear, so why should I care to comment about it when you listen to nothing but the self-hating voice in your head and deluded cheerleaders?

Your choices in whatever direction you take is your own doing, not anyone else's. The consequences also.
 
My objection is simple and the same as always. It's the one you don't want to hear and probably will avoid replying to. I'll explain it again anyway even though I already know it's going to fall on deaf ears, and even though I'm hardly invested anymore.

If you use the currently available methods of altering your genitals then it will endanger your soul. That was my biggest concern. I was worried that it might even result in soul death. Perhaps I was presumptuous to think it would with certainty, but it's still dangerous and would at the very least damage the soul.

That's why I was personally angry and felt betrayed. From my perspective, you were selfishly willing to risk destroying your own soul and ripping yourself out of the lives of all the people who care about you. Your partner, your brother, your parents - all of them would be forced by you to watch your soul die. If your fiance suspected that this might destroy your soul then hopefully he would never allow you to proceed with your plans.

It's good and admirable to pursue what will make you happy in life and bring you joy, but not at the cost of your own soul. All the people who love you and whom you claim to love, would have to live without you. And it seems like you don't even consider that, even the possibility of it.

I'm not going to hurt myself by continuing to invest in a relationship with you and caring about you when you have shown that you are willing to risk turning your soul into stardust. I won't let you do that to me.

If it were me then I would try to find out if it's possible to organically and naturally change the soul's gender through spiritual methods or anything. I would not surgically alter my physical genitals to achieve the goal. If I ultimately discovered that it's simply not possible even with immense soul power to change to the opposite gender then I would give up on the goal. You on the other hand are willing to go as far as soul extinction in the pursuit. That's unhealthy, reckless, and shows that you don't care about yourself nor about the people in your life who care about you. That's horribly cruel and selfish. You're not going to convince someone like me that you love and care about your fiance as much as you say you do (or at all for that matter) when your actions scream otherwise. You only care about your own fantasy - not yourself, but your fantasy. You're willing to destroy yourself for that fantasy so you obviously don't care about yourself or anyone else. It's gross that you pretend to love anyone. If you had a heart then you wouldn't bring anyone into your life just for them to watch you disappear from existence.

That's all I have to say on the matter. Disregard my message or do whatever you want. I don't care about you anymore.
 
Lydia said:
Aquarius said:
Maybe it's just me, but I think we're just normalizing this talk about transgenderism too much, meteor is sick in the head, one can theorize all he wants, but at the end that is the simple truth.
It's just really strange reading all this stuff.

This is how the jews destroy us, it's in their Protocols of Zion. They normalize degeneracy, mutilations, abuse, drugs, pedophilia, etc etc etc, in order to make us tolerate it more and more, ultimately destroying us.

We need to set boundaries and realize that transgenderism is a mental illness and a result of delusions from thoughtforms, spells, curses, and programmings. Less time giving attention and sympathy, more time on spiritual advancement and RTRs.

The thing is, those boundaries have been set and already discussed in the past. Newer people don't know some of these.
Also because they're just starting out and still have a lot of deprogramming to do.
 
Does not make it right or correct though. And claiming to be "new" and showing no growth is no excuse either..
 
Lunar Dance 666 said:
Illusions, stereotypes and whatever should be broken.

Stereotypes come from pattern recognition. They are based on observing reality for a lenghty amount of time.
Of course there are exceptions to everything, however, they remain exceptions.
 
Lydia said:
Aquarius said:
Maybe it's just me, but I think we're just normalizing this talk about transgenderism too much, meteor is sick in the head, one can theorize all he wants, but at the end that is the simple truth.
It's just really strange reading all this stuff.

This is how the jews destroy us, it's in their Protocols of Zion. They normalize degeneracy, mutilations, abuse, drugs, pedophilia, etc etc etc, in order to make us tolerate it more and more, ultimately destroying us.

We need to set boundaries and realize that transgenderism is a mental illness and a result of delusions from thoughtforms, spells, curses, and programmings. Less time giving attention and sympathy, more time on spiritual advancement and RTRs.

Btw I want to make it clear, in no way do I mean to be rude or disrespectful. I just think it's tragic when people don't even know their own identity or who or what they are :(
 
AgainstAllAuthority said:
Lunar Dance 666 said:
Illusions, stereotypes and whatever should be broken.

Stereotypes come from pattern recognition. They are based on observing reality for a lenghty amount of time.
Of course there are exceptions to everything, however, they remain exceptions.

But stereotypes nowadays in society are almost completely wrong, based on enemy brainwashing and degenerate patterns. For example, a man is considered such for really low-level and gross things, instead of things like true leadership and other higher manifestations of Mars, the Sun and Saturn.
 
Lydia said:
Btw I want to make it clear, in no way do I mean to be rude or disrespectful. I just think it's tragic when people don't even know their own identity or who or what they are :(
I find myself agreeing with you - mostly - though I probably wouldn't word it quite the same. I just find mostly people throw around the term "mental illness" in order to flame, rather than matter of fact (body dysmorphia is actually classified as a mental illness), though it's extremely hard to tell intent in text form. Perhaps that could be the stigma, or just how bluntly it is put? Who knows.
From my own personal experience, I feel it really shouldn't be happening, and shouldn't have happened. I was extremely lucky. I am thankful to be able to express myself freely, but I will not take it for granted.

I have not been questioning my gender since childhood though, in the grand scheme of things, that is something entirely different, and something I admittedly do not understand.
I can completely respect people's decisions to not want to get involved. In a sense, I think this is only resolved by the Higher Self, like Cobra said, it will force it's way Known one way or another. I just want people to know they are not alone in their struggles. I accept that I cannot always help fully.

I would like to mention one more thing. At one point, I was wondering if it was misinformation from my subconscious about the divine feminine/masculine. To embrace both can be a confusing, strange thing for many and I think this could be part of why people are struggling with themselves. Many, many people tend to push one aspect away. There is no proof of this of course, but I was thinking about that post about Apollo, and how people were confusing the concept of sexuality with it as well.
 
Soul Wings said:
I find myself agreeing with you - mostly - though I probably wouldn't word it quite the same. I just find mostly people throw around the term "mental illness" in order to flame, rather than matter of fact (body dysmorphia is actually classified as a mental illness), though it's extremely hard to tell intent in text form. Perhaps that could be the stigma, or just how bluntly it is put? Who knows.

There really is no need to sugar coat it or beat around the bush over this insanity that is transgenderism.

It is mental illness of the worst kind, plain and simple. There are too many places on the Internet with needless tolerance for this insanity, why must we be one of them?

Because some retarded and insane people's feelings will be hurt if we equate their obsession with changing gender from their birth gender to another to a mental illness?

Since when are we to care what the snowflakes think? Or the feelings of the weak, pathetic and idiotic fools?

Gender is literally the simplest thing in this world.

One has a penis at birth, one is a man regardless of any damn feelings or confusion.

One has a vagina at birth, one is a woman regardless of any damn feelings or confusion.

One is both with a genital defect or deficiency? It's a birth defect as a result of a failed fetal development during pregnancy. Doesn't matter how it manifests.

The genitalia that is most developed is ones gender plain and simple, anything extra that shouldn't be there, is a defect in the body which can form due to many multitude of reasons.

One is born with both sets of genitalia, either fully developed or partially developed due to a birth defect but still recognizable as a complete set of both?

That is a hermaphrodite manifestation. Very rare, and the only instance of a person that can be considered as both male and female to about 50% of each. They would have a different sort of soul as well, where the duality would also be manifest.

However, even in that case, the person is not trans. They are a bit of both, a physical manifestation of the gender duality within the soul, not trans gender of third sex, but both sexes in one body.

Since when did 1+1 become 3? Instead of 1 part male + 1 part male to make a fully male person, they have 1 part female and 1 part male to make a hermaphrodite person.

Aside from that extremely rare manifestation, the gender of a person is the same as the gender one is born with, regardless of ones thoughts or feelings on the matter.

Nature couldn't care less about ones little feelings. It is direct in its manifestation.

To make sense of it, one needs to look at the objective facts that are presented and understand what is there in reality without any frivolous emotions and thoughts distracting from the plain and simple reality.

That is all there is to it.

Which is why I say about this subject:

"Don't ask yourself, am I a man, or a woman? Instead, look at what you have since birth, and ask yourself based on that, what kind of man or woman am I?"

If one was born with a penis, ask oneself "what kind of man am I?" If one was born with a vagina, ask oneself "what kind of woman am I?"

There lies the answer that pierces through any and all confusion on the subject, and when this is done by the person they can begin to heal from the mental illness that caused them to question the factual reality of their existence and try to meddle with their biology to appease their little feelings and emotions.

Hail Satan!
 
Stormblood said:
How did this turn from a topic about make-up into a topic about transgenderism and other self-delusions?

Because it was clearly derailed.

I actually enjoyed this post until now and went in to see what more I could learn from others.
 
Many people don't understand how planets can affect us. Examples: Neptune in the 1st, in some people, only with a few spells and brainwashing or other things, they might end up as drug addicts. Severe delusions about the self might arise.

Recently, I have seen that much of this can end up with a person hating their own gender and self [or even hating their body to extents that are unimaginable]. These can have numerous outflows.

You can do whatever you want to your body, you are entitled to this. Science, for better or for worse, allows all this. That still does not make these choices valid or valid enough to impose on others to pretend to help them, because it doesn't help.

Some people also totally troll or are deluded. This doesn't reflect any reality to bring others into. There is a guy in Youtube named Lizardman and another person that alters their body all the time to become an "Alien".

These people are doing just appearance changes for shock and for changing their own perceived "identity". It can be for shock value, their own issues, or simply making a big act.

We have put too much seriousness on that bogus nonsense and kikes want us overly invested all day in this shit to waste our time and existence. Lizardman spends all day long trying to make his face look more like a lizard or whatever.

They can grab people with certain confusion and weaknesses and roll them down the mountain like a barrel, only to laugh. When these people lose their life, all that jews know is that they sold hormones, pricey surgeries, and had a lot of laughs.

Some people's life are concerned more with aesthetics rather than anything factual, so they can't be asked about facts or whatever in life as they seldom care for these. This is on the same level of bogus as many other pointless things in life, yet modern political narrative tries to make it all look "Oh so serious".

The purposeful forced representation of these things is to ruin people mentally. Then jews laugh on that stuff, and make sure it's well funded and promoted. Not on themselves of course, but their enemies above all.
 
I have a whole different view on this, and this stems from the decay of the people in general, excluding some other justified cases of circumstantial existence.

The problem consists of denial and promotion. To justify a low consciousness, the limitation being an understatement, and very very low issue of identity, something so primal and ideally simple of being here as a human on earth, onto retardation universal arguments and false premises built upon delusions, defects, and unawareness make to be the best recipe and consequence of the enemy.

This must not be entertained anymore.

Suddenly the whole existentialism and sacred philosophy of the world stand upon in these individuals as a quest to illusion, because the "why do I am this, what I am" by their nature hasn't fulfilled the natural feeling of life. These people do not understand how to identify existence itself. This is a fruit of the lowest desperation as life starts at the lowest levels with survival and identity, then sexuality. This is the effect of decay because the pursuit is still there, this is not an error. To justify the lower, they denigrate with the use of the "higher capacities" and suddenly they are "professionals" in everything life entails. Universe made of trannies and lifeforce eaters coming to help in unity, for reasons of self-fulfillment and boredom.

Some people are like the enemy said, animals. These kinds of tryouts are lower than that of an animal. Simply because you don't see animals having this degradation of identity as a living being. They are born and reproduce and eat and sleep and enjoy the sensorial and natural pleasures and duties. This became an aim (being lower than the above) for the lesser people, not even at the level of animals. It is harsh and makes you angry I said that? Good, because it is a harsh truth. This is either completely reversed and ignored or destroyed.

HP. Cobra is very kind to all people and tells it justly with other beneficial factors accounted for. I won't really, as this whole spiel hovers around by justification of degradation and promotion of decay. This is the meta-verse and dystopian future so much wished for by these interconnected impulses and conclusions. This stands to be only observed and not entertained.

Intelligent people and jews( as that's a factual truth) made sure this decay of the human condition is to be structured and justified to be further promoted and "grown". We do not need to deal with that, as that's the casualties and the level of the war on humans on a lot of levels. However, we deal with people not getting into that chaotic spiel, and also arm the soul to be smart enough to not develop such tendencies to future decay, and better to overcome/become superhuman and much more.

Adding more to the above, the intent is the supreme ruler in actualizing and molding reality. The intent in the above things are ill-willed and self projectional, adding decay to be projected onto reality, as a means to control and conquer.
 
Also, the loss of identity, loss of sexual identity/manifestation and desire, chaos around this is the aim and mode in which the enemy aliens operate when they assimilate a planet. They borg everything and strip the identity by controlled decay. You strip the sexual identity but give a retarded solution so the soul can survive for the reasons of illusions.

The sexual, sensorial, and identity/ego of the human is key in survival and further growth, which stand upon natural expectations and platforms. This is the enemy disrupting the roots upon which organic life exists and creating individuals such as these people, who are the perfect candidates for the future borg planet.

Also, in the future of these decisions, this is unsustainable on all levels. When one is sexually articulate and has desires, is satisfied, he has already his spectrum of traits fueled and has a basis in which he can develop in life, the ego feeds from the sexual nature, and uses it to expand and maybe reach higher. If you replace the sexual nature with mentalization and the illusion of it (with conflict), the ego is not sustained anymore and it is either on the path to the demise or on the path of decay and perversion. This creates a dependant, slave-master situation, and this is a "food" of the soul which is now replaced and denied being given otherwise.
 
NakedPluto said:
Also, the loss of identity, loss of sexual identity/manifestation and desire, chaos around this is the aim and mode in which the enemy aliens operate when they assimilate a planet. They borg everything and strip the identity by controlled decay. You strip the sexual identity but give a retarded solution so the soul can survive for the reasons of illusions.

The sexual, sensorial, and identity/ego of the human is key in survival and further growth, which stand upon natural expectations and platforms. This is the enemy disrupting the roots upon which organic life exists and creating individuals such as these people, who are the perfect candidates for the future borg planet.

Also, in the future of these decisions, this is unsustainable on all levels. When one is sexually articulate and has desires, is satisfied, he has already his spectrum of traits fueled and has a basis in which he can develop in life, the ego feeds from the sexual nature, and uses it to expand and maybe reach higher. If you replace the sexual nature with mentalization and the illusion of it (with conflict), the ego is not sustained anymore and it is either on the path to the demise or on the path of decay and perversion. This creates a dependant, slave-master situation, and this is a "food" of the soul which is now replaced and denied being given otherwise.

i couldn't have said it better myself. Its about the 2nd time or so maybe the third a thread is derailed by this topic. no offense to the person in question but it needs to stop and it does border on attention whoring at this point. people ofcourse have their own free will and will believe what they will. if thus is in spite of others trying to help them see through harmful ideologies to themselves that is sadly also their choice. We cannot beat a dead horse.

i have actually spent considerable time in the country the person in question is from and it is pretty much the most promoting and accepting of this form of mental illness in the world. i think there is also cultural aspects with certain types of conditioning that have influence. my ex told me once that country has one of the highest rate of "transitions" in the world...hell even he had this mindset once and i helped snap him out of it..i hope to have played a part for him that way anyway. he also knew several others like this.

in response to Cobras asteology summary on this topic i also think saturn/sun and sun/neptune do this as well as any position that promotes self loathing. any aspects that give a debilitated or afflicted mars or venus also can do this imo combined with environmental factors like problems with the mother/father and opposite sex in general or a combination of the above.

many people go through the trans surgery and regret it..at least half commit suicide.
 
NakedPluto said:
Also, the loss of identity, loss of sexual identity/manifestation and desire, chaos around this is the aim and mode in which the enemy aliens operate when they assimilate a planet. They borg everything and strip the identity by controlled decay. You strip the sexual identity but give a retarded solution so the soul can survive for the reasons of illusions.

The sexual, sensorial, and identity/ego of the human is key in survival and further growth, which stand upon natural expectations and platforms. This is the enemy disrupting the roots upon which organic life exists and creating individuals such as these people, who are the perfect candidates for the future borg planet.

Also, in the future of these decisions, this is unsustainable on all levels. When one is sexually articulate and has desires, is satisfied, he has already his spectrum of traits fueled and has a basis in which he can develop in life, the ego feeds from the sexual nature, and uses it to expand and maybe reach higher. If you replace the sexual nature with mentalization and the illusion of it (with conflict), the ego is not sustained anymore and it is either on the path to the demise or on the path of decay and perversion. This creates a dependant, slave-master situation, and this is a "food" of the soul which is now replaced and denied being given otherwise.

i couldn't have said it better myself. Its about the 2nd time or so maybe the third a thread is derailed by this topic. no offense to the person in question but it needs to stop and it does border on attention whoring at this point. people ofcourse have their own free will and will believe what they will. if thus is in spite of others trying to help them see through harmful ideologies to themselves that is sadly also their choice. We cannot beat a dead horse.

i have actually spent considerable time in the country the person in question is from and it is pretty much the most promoting and accepting of this form of mental illness in the world. i think there is also cultural aspects with certain types of conditioning that have influence. my ex told me once that country has one of the highest rate of "transitions" in the world...hell even he had this mindset once and i helped snap him out of it..i hope to have played a part for him that way anyway. he also knew several others like this.

in response to Cobras asteology summary on this topic i also think saturn/sun and sun/neptune do this as well as any position that promotes self loathing. any aspects that give a debilitated or afflicted mars or venus also can do this imo combined with environmental factors like problems with the mother/father and opposite sex in general or a combination of the above.

many people go through the trans surgery and regret it..at least half commit suicide.
 
Sketches said:
I agree and disagree to needing and not needing make-up :D

I agree that you shouldn't hide your blemishes with it just to "remove it" for a couple of hours. It can also clog your pores, and if it has a harmful chemical, you'd definitely want to reconsider brushing it on your face.

But at the same time, I disagree to not needing make-up.

Just a simple lipstick and foundation that matches my skin tone and what color I want to pop, and that's it. I'm also admitting that I'm kinda pissed that this (((pandemic))) occurred and we all have to wear masks now, completely throwing make-up.

Now I'm not saying that because of how I feel regarding the pandemic and masks means that I should go "YOLO" and remove them just to wear make-up. I just wished the joos didn't do this shit, ie, nobody should go between me and my light make-up :lol: :lol: :lol:
Honestly I have a bit of light acne still in my skin and I really don't care about it. Compared to what it used to be, I've fixed quite a bit of my skin issues, so why make a mountain out of a mole hill. Or put more makeup on it to aggravate it lol.

Omg, this is something I've hated so much. Lipstick is my favourite part of cosmetics. I have a lipstick in nearly every shade. I love it when people look at me funny when I wear blue, black, green, or grey. I think it looks fantastic and badass. Amazingly, so does my boyfriend, so that's nice. I've been looking to get into lipgloss now as I think it can look rejuvinating, but I've always been a bit self conscious about how big my lips look already, lol. But with the masks and all, ah ffs. Maybe we should make some clear or holographic ones.

Of course, just be mindful as to what products you should use. Despite me being all aboard towards make-up, I'd rather wear cute or bad-ass clothing than contour my face. I still do use natural beauty supplements to get a healthy skin. Make-up is just there to make your face pop, like an added filter :D
Right. I've seen some cool stuff in the cosmetics industry, like Mascara derived from blueberries. There's organic stuff out there, but there's no telling the staying power, you could probably cry or wipe it off. I use sensitive mascara for my eyes as most store bought stuff makes my eyes burn. I mostly have KVD (Kat Von D) lipsticks because she was the only one making cool stuff, and Jeffrey star (I bought some initially but I stopped) made me feel sick.
 
NakedPluto said:

I wouldn't say your view is actually different, but you were able to elaborate better on the problem from a spiritual perspective.

The heart of the problem of transgenderism and any other "solutions" the enemy has proposed has always been like you said: a false solution given to promote false growth.

When looking at Meteor, they are not understanding this core fact: that the surgery or other modifications do NOT solve their more inherent identity issues.

Unfortunately, they have shielded themselves from others who are trying to make this known, and so no progress is being made. Even worse, they are growing increasingly stubborn. This is not a unique situation either, and it happens with any person who feels attacked and isolated by the community. Notice how Meteor wants to make a new account because of this.

It is not always practical to type out perfectly crafted messages for people, so I can sympathize with you and HP Cobra becoming short in your responses. However, in this case, an element of emotional support needs to be woven into the message, as the intended recipient won't successfully integrate the message otherwise.

In other words, you cannot attack someone to make them understand something, but as frustration is growing, this is what is happening with the community in relation to Meteor. For this situation to be truly solved, the temperature of the room needs to be lowered, but that takes patience and time.
 
Meteor said:
Wouldn't you still want me to have been aborted just for having an extra chromosome? Or do you not care about that, as long as it doesn't cause serious symptoms?

My disorder is most likely neurological in nature (similarly to schizophrenia) rather than psychiatric, as the psychological reasons appear to be secondary and often caused by deeper underlying issues. Not that it really makes a difference; it's still objectively a mental disorder regardless, and my conviction that it's my body that's wrong instead of my mind, is either a sign of a strong will, or simply a disordered mind's inability to see its own faults.

But in the end, subjective reality shall surely prevail: even if I maintain that my mind is correct and change my body accordingly, rather than attempting to solve it the other way around, the axiom that I was never able to shake out of my head ("I should be female") will be sufficiently true for it not to cause any issues for me anymore. In other words, neither my body nor my mind will be wrong anymore, as they'll be in harmony, even if pedantics who believe in immutability disagree.

The ethical questions raised by the fact it can be solved both ways, are not for me to deal with. I'll simply take advantage of the contemporary liberties and manifest my will for my own peace of mind.

Meteor, I think it is very unfortunate that you are facing such a harsh response from the community. People need to be supported while they are resolving their problems. In this way, it is a failure of those who are trying to communicate to you when they are overly aggressive.

However, you must understand that many are also becoming increasingly concerned and therefore frustrated with your thoughts on the matter; nobody wants to see you make a decision that could be very harmful. Even if certain individuals do not show it, the reason passion arises is because of the desire for success and prosperity, so they are not truly trying to threaten you, instead, they want the world to be great, including you.

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You would be very wise to heed the knowledge of Naked Pluto and HPHC towards the issue of transgenderism. The idea of transitioning is proposed as the solution to identity issues, however, the surgery or hormones do not truly resolve the underlying identity crisis, and can actually inflame it (especially when it results in community backlash). That is why we know gender transitioning to be a meme created by the enemy, not by Satan.

Therefore, the solution comes through resolving your identity issues at the soul level, and not through physical endeavors, as we discussed beforehand. For your whole being to be in harmony, as you strive for, you must resolve the issue on all levels, which gender transitioning does not do.

The above is why this is not an issue merely of pedantics or irrational immutability and is also why people are getting so heated. Nobody wants to see you destroy yourself, nor let this Jewish meme retain any more influence in society.

This is the key element to focus on: does your proposed solution resolve your issue? The answer is no because we know the body manifests as the gender of the soul. The identity issues that may make you think otherwise may be due to trauma pertaining to your naturally androgynous appearance (and Jewish attacks against it).

Perhaps you lived many lives where it would've been much easier to simply become female instead of dealing with the stress of feeling different. It is now time for you to become comfortable with being Meteor, not with the idea of a perilous and inefficacious physical modification.

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Feeling that you should be something, even when it is irrational is not unique just to your case, but all mental imbalances or conflicting energies. Someone who has high fire thinks they "should" yell even when it is not appropriate, and so on. This sort of mental stress is simply a part of dealing with our problems, so you cannot let it unduly influence you.

As NakedPluto described, the base chakra pertains to identity. A weakened or attacked base chakra would therefore through everything else out of balance and cause someone to seek solace in their upper chakras, perhaps by dreaming or thinking their problem away.

We also know the earth element from the base grounds all the other elements. As HPHC described, Neptunian aspects to the 1st house can also create identity confusion, and earth is one way to balance out this water. Hopefully, you can see the relation here to what we discussed earlier with Nauthiz.

Don't beat yourself up about having trouble with this issue, but understand that a grounded soul can more easily make sense of reality around it, in its own way. This is a key element that your mind may be lacking in regards to your perception of your identity.

I do not think it is a coincidence that people like Jack and Aquarius, who I perceive to be higher in earth, are the ones who are trying to make you understand what they see clearly. For them, concepts of gender are set in stone, perhaps even too much. Unfortunately, earth is not always known to be communicative, and so they can come off as too blunt.

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My desire is for this message to get through to you, out of a sea of hatred, and hopefully resolve this issue. Nobody wants to see you, out of desperation for relief, go through with actions that will severely damage yourself and your advancement.

At the same time, the fact that this issue has not yet been resolved has caused panic among everyone here. This then results in frustration and anger, but it is the type that arises out of concern and not true hostility. If someone did not want you to get better, they would not spend their time typing anything to you.

I truly hope that are able to understand everything going on, with both the primary identity issues, but also all the secondary issues it is causing. I do not want to see you feel forced to switch accounts, rather I would see you retain yourself as Meteor and be comfortable with that. Is that not the heart of this problem?

Much love and until next time.
 
Meteor said:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
Meteor said:

As science might progress, these types of alterations (alongside many others) might even be possible to be close to a 90% and so on. The ruling over the subjective reality on the objective, is something that is between a fetish and actually what makes progress.

However, even if something is possible, that doesn't mean that it is the best thing to do. Also, it can be a waste of one's time, energy, and moreso, bred out of nonsense.

No matter what you do [your personal choices are your own and these won't be infringed in Spiritual Satanism], the important question in your life would be to ask why you wanted to go this other way, except of using pure emotional justification. If this question is not answered, it will force itself answered at some time.

Since even a heroin user justifies their heroin use based on "wanting to do this" and other things like this, which answer nothing and not about their heroin use, nor these change how this will affect their life later. They say it was "good" and "correct" in their mind, but with many thing this is not the case.
Well, the point is to change this and then move on with my life afterwards. That used to be what "ex-transgender" meant, according to Wikipedia 10 years ago; nowadays that term means the opposite, though.

I've been thinking that if I figure out the reason someday (the actual reason, not just yet another armchair psychology interpretation that falls apart in a week), all I have to do is accept it. But considering what I objectively sacrificed for it, even if it feels like the opposite of sacrifices right now, perhaps accepting the reason won't be so easy after all, depending on what it was. Even so, I don't think the reason really has to be all that good to satisfy me; at the very least, there are many different minor factors that just make it seem to "fit" in a way, to the point that sometimes I wonder if "the answer" is just "all of those minor things combined".

I think there is much irony. While I have mixed feelings about it, when it comes down to it, what I wanted the most was to be normal. Well, it makes sense if you consider how I'm treated for being abnormal; because of it, I'm told I'm confused, mentally ill, that the things that are important to me are jewish degeneracy, and that my love is fake. If not for all that, maybe, just maybe, I would've been satisfied with far less drastic measures, for example just as I am now or maybe even less than that. That said, aside from peer pressure, there are also more internal factors that influenced my decision, so perhaps it still wouldn't have made a difference in the end. I can't say at the moment, not to mention, it would've been unreasonable to expect others to change their opinions just for me to feel comfortable with myself. I'll just try even harder to become "normal", even if my means are unthinkable to many. I can't shake the feeling of how ironic that is.

Meteor... For how long have you had the feeling that you wanted to fit in?

I've dealt with that same feeling about my entire life that I can remember. I couldn't connect well with people around me. I was bullied. I just wanted to be unseen and go up in the crowd.
Be "normal". I got a label from a psych which I didn't want to have.
But when the time came to choose what I wanted to do in life, I chose for myself. Something that connected me with nature and made me at ease.

Doing things that are a tad bit unconventional nowadays and things that others misunderstand or they've never even heard of to begin with despite them being one foot in the grave already so to speak...
Does not make it any easier.

Same for those that follow any artistic route. You are going to see a lot of shit and you'll be pushed through hell while you are officially studying it.
It isn't appreciated to be of natural satanic origin nowadays, yet it is the one thing that is needed most.

We here as SS will always have an element thats different about us and that will somehow always make us some kind of outcasts by nowadays standard society.

And we'll have to accept that element of ourselves and move on, advance and become stronger regardless.

Who cares what the fuck shit for life thinks about you. They could tell you they want you to have a short hair pixy cut go out in the weekends party till you're drunk, take weed some xtc and perhaps shoot something even stronger in your veins then somehow go to work the next day or whatever just to get the money to do it all over again.
Thats the unfortunate reality of most of our people our age here...
Those boundaries and limitations have never been properly established growing up (Im talking about alcohol/drug abuse). You did what older people do or what your parents did.
There were lessons about drugs. In primary school they basicly told us "they made you hallucinate make a promise not to use them." and in middle school they gave out an assignment that was divided among the class that we needed to look up the effects of several of these drugs. I didnt find anything about drugs altering the brain just the things like "using this can lead to psychosis or you can have a bad trip".

As when it comes to pride acceptance... NL was one of the most accepting countries of that back in the 90's or 2000's or so (probably even before). But with the influx of all those foreigners and of course being a young child that doesn't think about sex or whatever properly..
They jumped on that and made it into this giant meme thing we have nowadays. (#pride parade cough cough)
I heard kids calling other kids gay in school for the fun of it or because someone wore a slight pink shirt that day and that was girly thus it was gay ...

Probably because we were already so accepting we've become the front of everything thats wrong with it..

Anyway I ranted too much... what I meant to say is, is that being different in general is not necessarily a bad thing.

Its just that when its taken way out of proportions it becomes harmful to the person themselves and those around them.

You need to find something that makes you comfortable, outside of the idea of gender change.
 
Meteor said:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
Meteor said:

As science might progress, these types of alterations (alongside many others) might even be possible to be close to a 90% and so on. The ruling over the subjective reality on the objective, is something that is between a fetish and actually what makes progress.

However, even if something is possible, that doesn't mean that it is the best thing to do. Also, it can be a waste of one's time, energy, and moreso, bred out of nonsense.

No matter what you do [your personal choices are your own and these won't be infringed in Spiritual Satanism], the important question in your life would be to ask why you wanted to go this other way, except of using pure emotional justification. If this question is not answered, it will force itself answered at some time.

Since even a heroin user justifies their heroin use based on "wanting to do this" and other things like this, which answer nothing and not about their heroin use, nor these change how this will affect their life later. They say it was "good" and "correct" in their mind, but with many thing this is not the case.
Well, the point is to change this and then move on with my life afterwards. That used to be what "ex-transgender" meant, according to Wikipedia 10 years ago; nowadays that term means the opposite, though.

I've been thinking that if I figure out the reason someday (the actual reason, not just yet another armchair psychology interpretation that falls apart in a week), all I have to do is accept it. But considering what I objectively sacrificed for it, even if it feels like the opposite of sacrifices right now, perhaps accepting the reason won't be so easy after all, depending on what it was. Even so, I don't think the reason really has to be all that good to satisfy me; at the very least, there are many different minor factors that just make it seem to "fit" in a way, to the point that sometimes I wonder if "the answer" is just "all of those minor things combined".

I think there is much irony. While I have mixed feelings about it, when it comes down to it, what I wanted the most was to be normal. Well, it makes sense if you consider how I'm treated for being abnormal; because of it, I'm told I'm confused, mentally ill, that the things that are important to me are jewish degeneracy, and that my love is fake. If not for all that, maybe, just maybe, I would've been satisfied with far less drastic measures, for example just as I am now or maybe even less than that. That said, aside from peer pressure, there are also more internal factors that influenced my decision, so perhaps it still wouldn't have made a difference in the end. I can't say at the moment, not to mention, it would've been unreasonable to expect others to change their opinions just for me to feel comfortable with myself. I'll just try even harder to become "normal", even if my means are unthinkable to many. I can't shake the feeling of how ironic that is.
https://youtu.be/Ad8TQDyLV2k
 
Meteor said:
Lunar Dance 666 said:
Meteor... For how long have you had the feeling that you wanted to fit in?
...
Since I was 3 years old.

I can't really take this anymore. As much as I try to detach myself emotionally (as I consider getting hurt by words a sign of weakness), I'm not invincible. Not to mention, several people have been very clear: "please don't talk about this topic here anymore, I find it disgusting and it makes me very uncomfortable".

I'm very sorry for bothering people with this. I understand that I have to erase my past if I want to have any chance of belonging here. Even if that won't be fully me anymore, at least it'll be part of me.

Stop being on a victimized stance and guilt-trip people then tend towards infiltration and still trying to be what you are not.

You were given attention, care, medical reasoning, emotional - psychological help, spiritual awareness, and help and all you gave back was "no, let me have this whole place as my trannies lessons".

At 3 years old kids have no inner sense of belonging created in the manner of depth for the above arguments. Associating yourself with these things such as, I am attacked, I was -4 years old and people on the internet attacked me then as well, I have to change for other people - and appeal to the emotional and empathic reasoning.
 
NakedPluto said:
Meteor said:
Lunar Dance 666 said:
Meteor... For how long have you had the feeling that you wanted to fit in?
...
Since I was 3 years old.

I can't really take this anymore. As much as I try to detach myself emotionally (as I consider getting hurt by words a sign of weakness), I'm not invincible. Not to mention, several people have been very clear: "please don't talk about this topic here anymore, I find it disgusting and it makes me very uncomfortable".

I'm very sorry for bothering people with this. I understand that I have to erase my past if I want to have any chance of belonging here. Even if that won't be fully me anymore, at least it'll be part of me.

Stop being on a victimized stance and guilt-trip people then tend towards infiltration and still trying to be what you are not.

You were given attention, care, medical reasoning, emotional - psychological help, spiritual awareness, and help and all you gave back was "no, let me have this whole place as my trannies lessons".

At 3 years old kids have no inner sense of belonging created in the manner of depth for the above arguments. Associating yourself with these things such as, I am attacked, I was -4 years old and people on the internet attacked me then as well, I have to change for other people - and appeal to the emotional and empathic reasoning.

There is clearly nothing we can do. Just as the Gods present people with avenues of approach that will be best for them it is in the person's hands to take it or not. It has been presented that these delusions clearly stem from enemy ideology and if any person regardless cannot uncouple themselves or deprogram then let us give no more attention and not watch them destroy themselves. I would request however that any post promoting this jewish filth should be moderated accordingly. It angers me knowing the enemy destroys souls this way, let alone any dedicated to Satan. If they should succeed in any case especially with the latter i do not want to watch. It is like a fucking trophy for them. If any one of Satan's people should jump off the deep end in any fashion especially in terms of physical self harm because of the ugliness of kikes i will shed many angry tears.
 
Meteor said:
Lunar Dance 666 said:
Meteor... For how long have you had the feeling that you wanted to fit in?
...
Since I was 3 years old.

I can't really take this anymore. As much as I try to detach myself emotionally (as I consider getting hurt by words a sign of weakness), I'm not invincible. Not to mention, several people have been very clear: "please don't talk about this topic here anymore, I find it disgusting and it makes me very uncomfortable".

I'm very sorry for bothering people with this. I understand that I have to erase my past if I want to have any chance of belonging here. Even if that won't be fully me anymore, at least it'll be part of me.

People aren't supposed to be emotionally invincible and unmoved by whatever criticism is layed out. Justified or not.

I do find it hard to believe that you've not understood that yet, despite that you're an adult.

You're dutch. Despite that most people are weak fucks there are still plenty of assholes here in the netherlands that say such things like that have been said here in this topic to your face.
As Hans Teeuwen said, you develop a shield for that. Context being he's a cabaretier who made fun of muslim women and they wanted to speak to him and tell him its inappropiate yet he does the same thing in his cabaret with his own people... and we're all fine with it.

Find your own meteor. Don't rely on outside sources or what other people say. Grow your own confidence. Solve your issues. Let go of the pain.
Some pain runs very deep. Find what exactly that pain is.
So you can deal with it properly.

We are supposed to face our fears and negative bagage and overcome it. Not wallow in our misery, and let it swallow us whole. What was your reason for coming here? What did you want to gain out of being here?
 
Meteor said:
Since I was 3 years old.

I can't really take this anymore. As much as I try to detach myself emotionally (as I consider getting hurt by words a sign of weakness), I'm not invincible. Not to mention, several people have been very clear: "please don't talk about this topic here anymore, I find it disgusting and it makes me very uncomfortable".

I'm very sorry for bothering people with this. I understand that I have to erase my past if I want to have any chance of belonging here. Even if that won't be fully me anymore, at least it'll be part of me.

Please don't be so hard on yourself. Yes, people are getting frustrated at this issue, but also you are not the only one going through this as well. Your progress and eventual resolution of this will serve the community as a valuable lesson well into the future, and you yourself will be able to help others who are in your shoes.

Unfortunately for everyone, your issue is one that requires a significant amount of patience and understanding, more than some are willing to give. However, you cannot be undeterred here: You must be willing to take the time and effort to implement a real and spiritual solution to your gender dysphoria.

You do not need to delete your account, or erase your past, or do any modifications to your identity or body! That is the whole point! Instead, you need to harmonize all aspects of your being such that you finally become comfortable with who you are. Please try to understand this.

The above is why it is even more unfortunate that the community is reacting harshly, but that is why it is even more important for you to stay clear-headed. You aren't invincible to emotional influence, just like all of us, but that doesn't mean you cannot take a deep breath and work on true solutions, rather than being compelled to a false bandaid.
 
Shadowcat said:
NakedPluto said:
Meteor said:
Since I was 3 years old.

I can't really take this anymore. As much as I try to detach myself emotionally (as I consider getting hurt by words a sign of weakness), I'm not invincible. Not to mention, several people have been very clear: "please don't talk about this topic here anymore, I find it disgusting and it makes me very uncomfortable".

I'm very sorry for bothering people with this. I understand that I have to erase my past if I want to have any chance of belonging here. Even if that won't be fully me anymore, at least it'll be part of me.

Stop being on a victimized stance and guilt-trip people then tend towards infiltration and still trying to be what you are not.

You were given attention, care, medical reasoning, emotional - psychological help, spiritual awareness, and help and all you gave back was "no, let me have this whole place as my trannies lessons".

At 3 years old kids have no inner sense of belonging created in the manner of depth for the above arguments. Associating yourself with these things such as, I am attacked, I was -4 years old and people on the internet attacked me then as well, I have to change for other people - and appeal to the emotional and empathic reasoning.

There is clearly nothing we can do. Just as the Gods present people with avenues of approach that will be best for them it is in the person's hands to take it or not. It has been presented that these delusions clearly stem from enemy ideology and if any person regardless cannot uncouple themselves or deprogram then let us give no more attention and not watch them destroy themselves. I would request however that any post promoting this jewish filth should be moderated accordingly. It angers me knowing the enemy destroys souls this way, let alone any dedicated to Satan. If they should succeed in any case especially with the latter i do not want to watch. It is like a fucking trophy for them. If any one of Satan's people should jump off the deep end in any fashion especially in terms of physical self harm because of the ugliness of kikes i will shed many angry tears.

This person admitted to hatred on SS, admitted to not caring about The core teaching of spirituality and real adherence to it, just a means of personal interest conflictual with that of a healthy life and SS means, admitted onto the acceptance of separation and conflictual stances and a simply fuck you all to everybody.

Also had the audacity to tell Blitz he didn't ask for his advice, Blitz to me being someone I dearly care about by his conduct on this forum.

The notion of stupidity that these interactions and assumed personal experiences and conclusions of this person's life and being are just naivety and innocence of existence, stands on false premises. Making something so degenerate available at every corner of the forum creates the seed upon which the jews can operate their psychological warfare. This is blatant and I have no shame, remorse to put this on light and fire it open, as I am above these psychological tactics deployed subconsciously by the nature of this individual.

The above individual is parasitic in nature, with the behavior openly manifested onto this, articulate and conscious about it, flaunting in the face of strong SS the nature of degeneracy. If you bait the wolf enough he will maul you. I abstained a lot in not being involved in this, but given the derailment and obsession of these things, I certainly will not stay silent.
 
I'm going to try to play a little word association game with "make-up", and "mascara". which I think, will tell a very clear picture of what we are dealing with here.

Make-up -
to invent, imagine, concoct

When you put Make-up on your face, you are making up an imaginary image of yourself. Yes it LOOKS real, but underneath it is where the TRUE image lies.



Mascara -
Mask a RAY.... (phonetically it can be interpreted as mask-a-ray...i know its pronounced as mask a RAH, but this concept known as green language interprets words phonetically.....You could also do a different interpretation with MASK-A-RA(H), which could refer to the egyptian sun God RA or RAH (in its rising form), but for this im going to use MASK-A-RAY

Mask - To cover in order to conceal, protect, or disguise. To make indistinct or difficult to perceive.
a Ray - a line in which light (and heat) may seem to stream from the sun or any luminous body, or pass through a small opening.

So to put it together:
MASK-A-RAY - cover or diguise a line in which light (and heat) may seem to stream a luminous body
In other words, you are covering the light that streams from YOUR luminous body when you put mascara on. Mask a Ray...
Some say that the eyes and face are the window to the soul, well, in this case, when a person puts make-up or mascara on, they are covering the light that streams from THEIR luminous body --- their eyes, their face....make-up/mascara can make a woman look like a completely different person with a totally different personality as well and they give anyone observing them different vibrations than if they were to be observed without make-up/mascara on.

But then you could argue the same thing with clothing....a person can give off a totally different look and personality if they are wearing, say, a suit and tie, or if they were wearing a bathing suit.....so in that sense, make-up is similar to clothing. BUT, clothing has practical utility unlike makeup. Clothing protects you from the elements....
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
Stormblood said:
How did this turn from a topic about make-up into a topic about transgenderism and other self-delusions?

Because it was clearly derailed.

I actually enjoyed this post until now and went in to see what more I could learn from others.

Back in topic, I was wondering about Egyptian men using a small amount of make-up. Was that a fashion of the time?
 
Stormblood said:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
Stormblood said:
How did this turn from a topic about make-up into a topic about transgenderism and other self-delusions?

Because it was clearly derailed.

I actually enjoyed this post until now and went in to see what more I could learn from others.

Back in topic, I was wondering about Egyptian men using a small amount of make-up. Was that a fashion of the time?

Apparently yes, and the same ways in England in the last three centuries. Even today, politicians that appear on panels etc, do use mild amounts of makeup.
 
Stormblood said:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
Stormblood said:
How did this turn from a topic about make-up into a topic about transgenderism and other self-delusions?

Because it was clearly derailed.

I actually enjoyed this post until now and went in to see what more I could learn from others.

Back in topic, I was wondering about Egyptian men using a small amount of make-up. Was that a fashion of the time?

I think persians also did this as well. certain fashions throughout the ages that are now considered feminine were dominated by men then. Even the color pink was considered a masculine color at one point.

These are the sort of things that express the refined type of masculinity though and a lot of trannies will take it to the extreme to justify their delusions. There are certain styles of make up that can be sexy imo in a refined manly way. i actually dig that in a guy if its in good taste. Not just outwardly but in mannerisms as well. just don't put on a dress for me and we will be ok :lol: :lol:
 
Isn't the word "cosmetics" derived from the Greek word for cosmos, or world? So proper cosmetics and beautification would be a way of expressing the natural patterns of the cosmos.
 
CrossRoadsPedestrian said:
Mask - To cover in order to conceal, protect, or disguise. To make indistinct or difficult to perceive.
a Ray - a line in which light (and heat) may seem to stream from the sun or any luminous body... , when a person puts make-up or mascara on, they are covering the light that streams from THEIR luminous body --- their eyes, their face....make-up/mascara can make a woman look like a completely different person with a totally different personality as well and they give anyone observing them different vibrations than if they were to be observed without make-up/mascara on.
I would actually interject and say that (literal) masks can also look lovely and enhance one's face even more - perhaps even add mystique to the mundane. There are also sexual connotations to masks - safety, and no judgement, in anonymity.
I am wondering if perhaps it is to do with vulnerability - feeling like there is nothing to hide when you are naked, perhaps, so too do we have the feeling that we are bearing all without makeup. To hide that we are tired, plagued by skin issues and/or sick, unhappy etc. Or perhaps to compensate the mundane with various types of artform (there are many styles of makeup).
It is strange you say that it "covers rays up like a mask" because many think it is used for enhancement, particularly of the eyes. A bit of sparkle can be used to attract attention, eyeliner or smoke for seduction and mystery, colours for vibrancy... and how strangely it is when typing this; how much it makes me think of magic.
Mascara is technically used practically put to enhance the lashes and make them look longer/more pronounced, without the use of false eyelashes (or can be used in conjuction with these to blend seamlessly). I believe this alludes to the "fluttering" of the eyelashes associated with obvious seduction and mystery. It can make one look more awake and draw more attention to the eyes. It is generally used as a finishing touch, so perhaps it is the last step of the "masking (changing?) of the rays". Many consider it the most vital step in a face of makeup, and even just mascara on the face can be considered a complete look.
I have been wondering if "as above, so below" may be applied here as well, in a way, even if it seems mundane. Perhaps, this might be why it seems so necessary after all (as this was a question in my mind). How can we express ourselves spiritually fully, if we are physically limited to "what we have" instead of "what we can create".

Shadowcat said:
I think persians also did this as well. certain fashions throughout the ages that are now considered feminine were dominated by men then. Even the color pink was considered a masculine color at one point.
Yes, they did. I think guyliner can look quite nice, done right. It doesn't have to be overblown or anything. It would certainly make you look different at the very least. I guess it's associated with certain stuff people don't want to be involved in, so whatever.

Many men on TV these days actually, are wearing makeup to look healthier under the lights and because TV exposes every pore and flaw in your face, they feel it is necessary. Same with most musical artists these days.
 
Shadowcat said:
Stormblood said:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
Because it was clearly derailed.

I actually enjoyed this post until now and went in to see what more I could learn from others.

Back in topic, I was wondering about Egyptian men using a small amount of make-up. Was that a fashion of the time?

I think persians also did this as well. certain fashions throughout the ages that are now considered feminine were dominated by men then. Even the color pink was considered a masculine color at one point.

These are the sort of things that express the refined type of masculinity though and a lot of trannies will take it to the extreme to justify their delusions. There are certain styles of make up that can be sexy imo in a refined manly way. i actually dig that in a guy if its in good taste. Not just outwardly but in mannerisms as well. just don't put on a dress for me and we will be ok :lol: :lol:

I dig that too. Having taste, instead of putting on the first thing one finds in the closet.

Where I was born, pink is considered for women and purple for homosexuals. Obviously, most of that is misaligned with nature since warm colours are actually masculine in nature and cool colours are feminine in nature. So, it naturally follows that blue, green, purple and white are actually feminine colours; while red, orange, yellow and black are actually masculine. This is ironic since most guys when I was in school steered away from bright colours, finding them feminine as well, while going toward dark, neutrals and muted. Especially blues, greys, black, white and browns. But greys were the most popular. Sky blue is ruled by Venus as we know lol

In truth, I think it doesn't really matter what colours you wear in defining whether you are a man or a woman, as we both have masculine and feminine sides anyway, and colours have several properties which are not all necessarily aligned.

When it comes to make-up, I was forced to wear a little of it like everyone else when I did some acting in school. I didn't mind it for the most part, except for lipstick. And thankfully they never exaggerated, unlike with women.
 
Meteor said:
Spirituality was never my goal, only a means. That's why there are some things we will never be able to agree on. The future and reality remain the same regardless of such petty arguments.

Meteor, I dont want to argue with you and I wasnt the part of these arguments in the first place. Just wanted to ask, what is spirituality means to?
 
Larissa666 said:
Sundara said:
Larissa666 said:
Is lack of vanity a bad thing?

Asking for a friend. :lol:

No, but I do think people should have -something- that makes them more of a person.

My first house is empty. :-/

And yet you are a very dedicated person, with lots of willpower, strive, goals and a mindset that keeps you close to Satan and the Gods, while this also reflects in your behaviour and actions, with the highest motivation, aspirations and goals a person could set for themselves.
Your first house may be empty, but your character, heart and soul are not.

Hail Satan!
 
NinRick said:
Larissa666 said:
Sundara said:
No, but I do think people should have -something- that makes them more of a person.

My first house is empty. :-/

And yet you are a very dedicated person, with lots of willpower, strive, goals and a mindset that keeps you close to Satan and the Gods, while this also reflects in your behaviour and actions, with the highest motivation, aspirations and goals a person could set for themselves.
Your first house may be empty, but your character, heart and soul are not.

Hail Satan!

Thank you, Brother. 😊

Hail Satan!!!
 
NinRick said:
Larissa666 said:
Sundara said:
No, but I do think people should have -something- that makes them more of a person.

My first house is empty. :-/

And yet you are a very dedicated person, with lots of willpower, strive, goals and a mindset that keeps you close to Satan and the Gods, while this also reflects in your behaviour and actions, with the highest motivation, aspirations and goals a person could set for themselves.
Your first house may be empty, but your character, heart and soul are not.

Hail Satan!



This has nothing to do with planets in your first house, I haven’t looked into it but with unaspected planets a person tends to have more control over that aspect of their life and an ability to make it what they want. This could possibly be said for having an empty house. Do not qoute me on that. But, by being more of a person I mean expressing who you are to the world. Showing it.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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