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Self-acceptance, sexuality, and facing reality: healing the lower chakras from a transgender perspective.

This is a lot to read so I skimmed it. I’ve had a lot of very personal interactions with trans, and transitioning people, as well as purely gay people. Most of the true gays do not understand being transgender and the trans people who I’ve had the opportunity to talk to about their experiences blatantly say that this is an illness and that their transition did not help them. It’s very confusing, but on a mass scale what I notice is these people are too stuck in themselves, picking themselves apart, and honestly the majority have no “real” trauma persay. A lot of it is very imagined.

This isn’t to put fault on the individuals. There’s more to this. I notice the families are often weak in their own cultural identities and “transgenderism” often occurs within rat packed cities. It makes sense that transgenderism (as it’s called) is much less an ism than it is an evolutionary hiccup embedded within a person whose line is very weak and who’s been exposed to few things that build their character, on top of being in a very culturally mixed area. Less of an ability to keep up with competition in the world around them and find things they feel strongly about.

You hardly ever see anyone who is transgender who does anything BUT talk about themselves. Except for the ones who get into politics, who do so to mainly talk about themselves. Whatever brain scans show, doctors often fail to help guide a person towards the fact they can certainly change the way their own brain works and have all but given up on helping anyone.

I can’t really say much more on the subject or suggest any quick simple tips that’s a cure all but if a trans person early on or even now could block out and void out this self focus for just one year and directed their energy outward towards maybe working out, getting educated on literally anything but being trans, not worrying about “who they are” but more so creating themselves maybe they’d be happier. Maybe get into some straight up casual fist fights idk.

The most tragic thing ever is when I see someone completely mutilate their body only to absolutely hate it.
 
I'm really glad you have gained these insights. Thank you for writing this and sharing it with everyone. I think it offers a lot of clarity not only to yourself, but to others as well. I really believe you have done a very good job here.
 
Meteor said:
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So, why did it have to be this way? That's for the same reason that everyone is born different: no reason in particular, it's just how it is. That's something that I'm still learning to accept, but it's only by accepting that, that I can truly be at peace with reality, and with myself. It's only by accepting that, that I will fully heal from all of this.
I was about to write something about acceptance and how that is a key concept about yourself as part of the world, but at the end of the post you already mentioned this.

Looks like your healing process is going well. Congratulations.
 
Sundara said:
This is a lot to read so I skimmed it. I’ve had a lot of very personal interactions with trans, and transitioning people, as well as purely gay people. Most of the true gays do not understand being transgender and the trans people who I’ve had the opportunity to talk to about their experiences blatantly say that this is an illness and that their transition did not help them. It’s very confusing, but on a mass scale what I notice is these people are too stuck in themselves, picking themselves apart, and honestly the majority have no “real” trauma persay. A lot of it is very imagined.

This isn’t to put fault on the individuals. There’s more to this. I notice the families are often weak in their own cultural identities and “transgenderism” often occurs within rat packed cities. It makes sense that transgenderism (as it’s called) is much less an ism than it is an evolutionary hiccup embedded within a person whose line is very weak and who’s been exposed to few things that build their character, on top of being in a very culturally mixed area. Less of an ability to keep up with competition in the world around them and find things they feel strongly about.

You hardly ever see anyone who is transgender who does anything BUT talk about themselves. Except for the ones who get into politics, who do so to mainly talk about themselves. Whatever brain scans show, doctors often fail to help guide a person towards the fact they can certainly change the way their own brain works and have all but given up on helping anyone.

I can’t really say much more on the subject or suggest any quick simple tips that’s a cure all but if a trans person early on or even now could block out and void out this self focus for just one year and directed their energy outward towards maybe working out, getting educated on literally anything but being trans, not worrying about “who they are” but more so creating themselves maybe they’d be happier. Maybe get into some straight up casual fist fights idk.

The most tragic thing ever is when I see someone completely mutilate their body only to absolutely hate it.


I agree with all of the casual factors you listed here Sundara. Most of the trans people i met were very intelligent individuals, but at the same time, they were not holistically or emotionally intelligent at all.

Meteor, i think an introspective question you may ask yourself is

"If I was living in an earlier time-period in human history where transpeople didn't exist on the scale that they do now, would I still be trans?"

In other words, if you lived in a time period where people weren't exposed to the idea of being trans at all because it simply didn't exist in that time period, then would you be trans? (Maybe there were a few trans people in ancient history but it definitely wasn't a topic that most people talked about at all during their lifetimes)

On a personal note, Meteor I can never accept you as a trans person because it goes against my beliefs, but i can accept you as a person, as a fellow human, and whatever you choose to do I wish you the best. Keep asking yourself hard questions so that you can get closer to knowing whether your decisions regarding being trans is based on your Will or based on an (((outside influence)))
 
CrossRoadsPedestrian said:
Sundara said:
This is a lot to read so I skimmed it. I’ve had a lot of very personal interactions with trans, and transitioning people, as well as purely gay people. Most of the true gays do not understand being transgender and the trans people who I’ve had the opportunity to talk to about their experiences blatantly say that this is an illness and that their transition did not help them. It’s very confusing, but on a mass scale what I notice is these people are too stuck in themselves, picking themselves apart, and honestly the majority have no “real” trauma persay. A lot of it is very imagined.

This isn’t to put fault on the individuals. There’s more to this. I notice the families are often weak in their own cultural identities and “transgenderism” often occurs within rat packed cities. It makes sense that transgenderism (as it’s called) is much less an ism than it is an evolutionary hiccup embedded within a person whose line is very weak and who’s been exposed to few things that build their character, on top of being in a very culturally mixed area. Less of an ability to keep up with competition in the world around them and find things they feel strongly about.

You hardly ever see anyone who is transgender who does anything BUT talk about themselves. Except for the ones who get into politics, who do so to mainly talk about themselves. Whatever brain scans show, doctors often fail to help guide a person towards the fact they can certainly change the way their own brain works and have all but given up on helping anyone.

I can’t really say much more on the subject or suggest any quick simple tips that’s a cure all but if a trans person early on or even now could block out and void out this self focus for just one year and directed their energy outward towards maybe working out, getting educated on literally anything but being trans, not worrying about “who they are” but more so creating themselves maybe they’d be happier. Maybe get into some straight up casual fist fights idk.

The most tragic thing ever is when I see someone completely mutilate their body only to absolutely hate it.


I agree with all of the casual factors you listed here Sundara. Most of the trans people i met were very intelligent individuals, but at the same time, they were not holistically or emotionally intelligent at all.

Meteor, i think an introspective question you may ask yourself is

"If I was living in an earlier time-period in human history where transpeople didn't exist on the scale that they do now, would I still be trans?"

In other words, if you lived in a time period where people weren't exposed to the idea of being trans at all because it simply didn't exist in that time period, then would you be trans? (Maybe there were a few trans people in ancient history but it definitely wasn't a topic that most people talked about at all during their lifetimes)


On a personal note, Meteor I can never accept you as a trans person because it goes against my beliefs, but i can accept you as a person, as a fellow human, and whatever you choose to do I wish you the best. Keep asking yourself hard questions so that you can get closer to knowing whether your decisions regarding being trans is based on your Will or based on an (((outside influence)))

You're giving good advice which can be taken from a certain angle, but it might not reach in the way you're hoping. There's a very simple counter argument which easily refutes that logic: "People didn't talk openly about being gay either."

I know you want the best for your brother here, but just be aware that choosing this particular angle probably won't accomplish anything.
 
Meteor said:
jrvan said:
CrossRoadsPedestrian said:
I agree with all of the casual factors you listed here Sundara. Most of the trans people i met were very intelligent individuals, but at the same time, they were not holistically or emotionally intelligent at all.

Meteor, i think an introspective question you may ask yourself is

"If I was living in an earlier time-period in human history where transpeople didn't exist on the scale that they do now, would I still be trans?"

In other words, if you lived in a time period where people weren't exposed to the idea of being trans at all because it simply didn't exist in that time period, then would you be trans? (Maybe there were a few trans people in ancient history but it definitely wasn't a topic that most people talked about at all during their lifetimes)


On a personal note, Meteor I can never accept you as a trans person because it goes against my beliefs, but i can accept you as a person, as a fellow human, and whatever you choose to do I wish you the best. Keep asking yourself hard questions so that you can get closer to knowing whether your decisions regarding being trans is based on your Will or based on an (((outside influence)))

You're giving good advice which can be taken from a certain angle, but it might not reach in the way you're hoping. There's a very simple counter argument which easily refutes that logic: "People didn't talk openly about being gay either."

I know you want the best for your brother here, but just be aware that choosing this particular angle probably won't accomplish anything.
It seems you realised the issue. I was thinking of replying with something along the lines of "Perhaps you meant to ask about a fantasy world rather than the actual past, considering what a horrible nightmare that was." But I didn't want to sound overly cynical, so I instead answered the underlying question by saying that it wasn't due to the knowledge that it's possible that I wanted this.

I understand at this point that my gender and my sexuality are two separate matters, but the karma that caused me to conflate them out of fear for my life definitely didn't come from this life. It took me a long time to resolve that. That said, even to this day I sometimes see gay men, or even men who aren't gay but just look a bit feminine, being treated very harshly for it by some men and women alike, and I sigh with relief and think: "I'm so glad I avoided that." Nowadays there are many people who are a bit nicer about it though.

There's definitely an ironic situation in society at the moment where most people claim to be more accepting of gay people and people who don't conform to gender norms than transgender people, and then proceed to discriminate against the former but not the latter. I realised there's an absurd amount of overlap between misogyny, homophobia and transphobia. For every person whose criticisms come from a place of concern, there's someone who just really hates feminine men and masculine women. Some ways to express that just happen to be a lot more socially acceptable than others these days.

Perhaps due to this, it took me a ridiculous amount of time to accept that it's okay to just be feminine if that's how I am rather than always trying to put up some fake "tough act". I'm glad there are men like my fiancé who won't hurt me for it.

Yeah, there's always going to be people in society who won't accept you until we reach a future age. Those are the people whom you either ignore or, if necessary, you fight against. If you overpower them then they have no choice but to accept your existence because they can't defeat you. This society is still very jewed in a lot of ways, and it won't be perfect for a while yet. The JoS is a haven away from this where we can get some peace of mind. There's still idiots even here, but they appear to be the minority.
 
Meteor said:
jrvan said:
Meteor said:
Yeah, there's always going to be people in society who won't accept you until we reach a future age. Those are the people whom you either ignore or, if necessary, you fight against. If you overpower them then they have no choice but to accept your existence because they can't defeat you. This society is still very jewed in a lot of ways, and it won't be perfect for a while yet. The JoS is a haven away from this where we can get some peace of mind. There's still idiots even here, but they appear to be the minority.
I wonder if that will really change in a future age. You make it sound like it would be some egalitarian utopia, but most forms of egalitarianism at the moment hinge on extreme tolerance, which can cause issues if people or jews take advantage of it.

It's true that if everyone completely followed a leader with perfect knowledge about ethics and fairness, then everything that isn't harmful would be accepted by all, in a positive manner; but Satanism should never operate in such a hive-minded manner. People have to think for themselves in order to grow, and precisely because of that, they would still make mistakes or misunderstand things. These misunderstandings then lead to disagreements and injustice. Just making everyone Satanists wouldn't fix that. (Not to mention, there are cases where both sides are right despite disagreeing, because their conclusions are based on different situations.)

Until such a future actually comes, we have to adapt to the times and make the best of our situation. As you put it, ignore if you can, fight if you have to. However, I do like your idealistic views. I hope you're right that such a future will come, even if it's hard to imagine.

It's not exactly idealistic on my part. It just seems like an inevitable outcome. When we live in a future society that isn't invaded by the enemy, spirituality will be ubiquitous again. Everyone will be on the natural path of life advancement in one way or another, with or without formal spirituality.

There will reach a point where everyone is meditating upon things, and the threshold of understanding in society will be higher across the board. You will see far more harmony than what we have now.
 
jrvan said:
There's a very simple counter argument which easily refutes that logic: "People didn't talk openly about being gay either."
I can’t tell if this comment is rooted in ignorance or malice. Lumping us together with with the “T” is very insulting because homosexuality and T are very different things.
 
The Outlaw Torn said:
jrvan said:
There's a very simple counter argument which easily refutes that logic: "People didn't talk openly about being gay either."
I can’t tell if this comment is rooted in ignorance or malice. Lumping us together with with the “T” is very insulting because homosexuality and T are very different things.

You're focusing on the wrong things. The point is that no one was allowed to be themselves back then so nobody talked about it. Therefore, hypothetically, many people could have been trans back then and we wouldn't have known it. This is most likely impossible, but it's about the rhetoric being easily countered by saying "we didn't know that so many people were gay back then either because they didn't talk about it because they weren't allowed to. How do we know that it wasn't the same case with trans people?"

I'm only saying that this isn't an effective way to reach people by using that particular logic. If you take offense then that's a 'you' thing, and not a 'me' thing because my words were not an attack on homosexuals.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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