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Question #1964: Why is Islam false?

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I've been a muslim all my life, but while i've in the process of discovering myself, and especially my sexuality. I've started having serious doubts about my (ex?)religion, and finding myself agreeing more and more with spiritual satanity.

I just can't believe that any god would be cruel enough to banish the people he created to eternal hellfire for having "sinful" thoughts, which they have no control over.

But for some reason im still hanging onto that religion, and i need to be further convinced to fully leave it.

So can someone please give me some reasons as to why Islam is false?
 
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AskSatanOperator said:
I've been a muslim all my life, but while i've in the process of discovering myself, and especially my sexuality. I've started having serious doubts about my (ex?)religion, and finding myself agreeing more and more with spiritual satanity.

I just can't believe that any god would be cruel enough to banish the people he created to eternal hellfire for having "sinful" thoughts, which they have no control over.

But for some reason im still hanging onto that religion, and i need to be further convinced to fully leave it.

So can someone please give me some reasons as to why Islam is false?
I used to be a muslim and live in an "arabic" (We are not really Arabs.), islamic country.

If I am honest, people here, ex-christians, non-arabs, SS, atheists, won't be able to help you much regarding the falsehood of islam.

The thing is with Islam it's a closed-off religion. For muslims it ties in with the language, home, family, traditions and culture.

People who have not experienced life in an Arabic country, were arabic muslims themselves, will never be able to understand what islam means especially to those who live in it.

Looking at islam from the outside will never ever be like experiencing it (and leaving it) from the inside.

Also, leaving islam is never ever comparable to leaving xianity or whatever else. I don't care how orthodox your parents or community is.

Publically leaving islam in an islamic country will mean you will get witch hunted, imprisoned, humiliated, traumatised, and hated by your closest people AT BEST. But having people try to kill you is the norm. If its in Saudi or Pakistan it's the law.

But the truth is the truth and once you open your door to the truth you just can't believe in filth and fantasy land anytime soon.

If you want the best source to find the reality of islam. Here's an egyptian atheist youtuber that makes these mini-documentaries on the truth of islam. He is an atheist so he removes the spiritual side to all this so just learn from this regarding islam.

This person has gotten imprisoned for 3 years (and another 2 years) for charges of contempt of religion and blasphemy then he was banned from leaving Egypt indefinitely.

His videos are very reasonable and logical. You will find the insanity of pisslam as reactions to him.

If you are not Arabic all his videos has English subtitles of high clarity.
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UC_CKL5F9i7e9sPnZcxXP3HQ

After this discover the truth of spirituality from the Joy of Satan website. When you feel ready, dedicate.
 
AskSatanOperator said:
I've been a muslim all my life, but while i've in the process of discovering myself, and especially my sexuality. I've started having serious doubts about my (ex?)religion, and finding myself agreeing more and more with spiritual satanity.

I just can't believe that any god would be cruel enough to banish the people he created to eternal hellfire for having "sinful" thoughts, which they have no control over.

But for some reason im still hanging onto that religion, and i need to be further convinced to fully leave it.

So can someone please give me some reasons as to why Islam is false?

First reason is that it is not fair to torture someone for eternity over something that is not affecting anyone eternally.The punishment should fit the crime.

Secondly Father Satan destroyed allah in quran :lol:
I explained this here:
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=84988&p=437888&hilit=Satanic+verses#p437888

Also muhammad considers himself the best husband,we all know thats a joke.he married Aisha when she was 6 and raped her when she was 9.
He cheated on Hafsa with her slave in her own house and bed and tried to bribe her to keep quiet and threatened her and Aisha with divorce.Muslim men use this as a reason to lie to their wives.
He also tried to divorce Sawdah because she was getting old and forced her to give up all her rights to stay in marriage in return for food and shelter .
According to shia muslims' beliefs he used to kiss his own daughter's and grandson's lips.He used to put his face between his own daughters breasts.The source:
It has been narrated that [Imam] Ja`far Ibn Muhamad said: “Prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h) used to put his face between the breasts of [his daughter] Fatimah (as) before going to sleep." (Bihaar al-Anwar, vol. 43, p. 78).
He beat Aisha in her chest.
There are thousands of other things I can warn you about but these are enough reasons.
he was an animal and so is allah.
Wether if you become a Satanist or not it is still immoral to be a muslim.
 
AskSatanOperator said:
I've been a muslim all my life, but while i've in the process of discovering myself, and especially my sexuality. I've started having serious doubts about my (ex?)religion, and finding myself agreeing more and more with spiritual satanity.

I just can't believe that any god would be cruel enough to banish the people he created to eternal hellfire for having "sinful" thoughts, which they have no control over.

But for some reason im still hanging onto that religion, and i need to be further convinced to fully leave it.

So can someone please give me some reasons as to why Islam is false?
Take a look at this
https://radostsatane.com/Don%27t_Translate2/Exposing_Islam.html
 
mercury_wisdom said:
You are making a lot of assumptions and generalizations, and you also make the mistake of stating that we can't help which is evidently completely the opposite of truth as you can see from this topic, not to mention dozens and dozens of other times.

However, your response could be used in conjunction with someone ignorant about this topic.
 
mercury_wisdom said:
AskSatanOperator said:
I've been a muslim all my life, but while i've in the process of discovering myself, and especially my sexuality. I've started having serious doubts about my (ex?)religion, and finding myself agreeing more and more with spiritual satanity.

I just can't believe that any god would be cruel enough to banish the people he created to eternal hellfire for having "sinful" thoughts, which they have no control over.

But for some reason im still hanging onto that religion, and i need to be further convinced to fully leave it.

So can someone please give me some reasons as to why Islam is false?
I used to be a muslim and live in an "arabic" (We are not really Arabs.), islamic country.

If I am honest, people here, ex-christians, non-arabs, SS, atheists, won't be able to help you much regarding the falsehood of islam.

The thing is with Islam it's a closed-off religion. For muslims it ties in with the language, home, family, traditions and culture.

People who have not experienced life in an Arabic country, were arabic muslims themselves, will never be able to understand what islam means especially to those who live in it.

Looking at islam from the outside will never ever be like experiencing it (and leaving it) from the inside.

Also, leaving islam is never ever comparable to leaving xianity or whatever else. I don't care how orthodox your parents or community is.

Publically leaving islam in an islamic country will mean you will get witch hunted, imprisoned, humiliated, traumatised, and hated by your closest people AT BEST. But having people try to kill you is the norm. If its in Saudi or Pakistan it's the law.

But the truth is the truth and once you open your door to the truth you just can't believe in filth and fantasy land anytime soon.

If you want the best source to find the reality of islam. Here's an egyptian atheist youtuber that makes these mini-documentaries on the truth of islam. He is an atheist so he removes the spiritual side to all this so just learn from this regarding islam.

This person has gotten imprisoned for 3 years (and another 2 years) for charges of contempt of religion and blasphemy then he was banned from leaving Egypt indefinitely.

His videos are very reasonable and logical. You will find the insanity of pisslam as reactions to him.

If you are not Arabic all his videos has English subtitles of high clarity.
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UC_CKL5F9i7e9sPnZcxXP3HQ

After this discover the truth of spirituality from the Joy of Satan website. When you feel ready, dedicate.
There is a youtube channel called the masked arab that is very useful for exposing islam. He has videos in english and arabic.


https://www.youtube.com/@TheMaskedArab/featured?app=desktop
 
Henu the Great said:
mercury_wisdom said:
You are making a lot of assumptions and generalizations, and you also make the mistake of stating that we can't help which is evidently completely the opposite of truth as you can see from this topic, not to mention dozens and dozens of other times.

However, your response could be used in conjunction with someone ignorant about this topic.
Well, the thing is. If I was a muslim myself and started to leave islam by JoS website alone I don't think it would be effective in anyway.

I was already an atheist/spiritual person before finding JoS.

I don't think you understand how islam works. If you don't speak Arabic you can never really understand islam or what happens in muslim arabic countries.

Arabic is similar to hebrew in the sense that any translations for the Quran or any other islamic text are totally invalid can't be translated. Most of the times they get mistranslated/misunderstood which gives way for islamics to do their mental gymnastics.

Also, almost 100% of all the stuff on JoS regarding islam will never be understood by islamic people. The programming is concrete thick. There are also many mistakes as well as misunderstood things that lead for islamic people to disregard the whole thing.
 
mercury_wisdom said:
Also, almost 100% of all the stuff on JoS regarding islam will never be understood by islamic people. The programming is concrete thick. There are also many mistakes as well as misunderstood things that lead for islamic people to disregard the whole thing.
Those who are to become Spiritual Satanists will become no matter what and the guides, articles, and help are reserved for them. Those who repeatedly stumble and fall continue to do so until they are ready or succumb to their failure and ultimately cease to exist.
 
Henu the Great said:
mercury_wisdom said:
Also, almost 100% of all the stuff on JoS regarding islam will never be understood by islamic people. The programming is concrete thick. There are also many mistakes as well as misunderstood things that lead for islamic people to disregard the whole thing.
Those who are to become Spiritual Satanists will become no matter what and the guides, articles, and help are reserved for them. Those who repeatedly stumble and fall continue to do so until they are ready or succumb to their failure and ultimately cease to exist.

There is a middle ground here, where yes Henu is correct that people can and will escape Islam, based on their probability to do so. Mercury is just making the point that Islam can prove different and tougher than the situation many escaping Christians have found themselves in.

People go in directions they are most comfortable with, so they will most likely follow ex-muslims out of the trap, who they can most easily relate to.

The islam-focused RTR's will be useful here, although no enemy programming can survive in the current situation, regardless of these.
 

So you could make articles about it that might be added to exposing Islam?
Maybe you could word yourself like if you were talking to them directly.
 
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Henu the Great said:
mercury_wisdom said:
Also, almost 100% of all the stuff on JoS regarding islam will never be understood by islamic people. The programming is concrete thick. There are also many mistakes as well as misunderstood things that lead for islamic people to disregard the whole thing.
Those who are to become Spiritual Satanists will become no matter what and the guides, articles, and help are reserved for them. Those who repeatedly stumble and fall continue to do so until they are ready or succumb to their failure and ultimately cease to exist.

There is a middle ground here, where yes Henu is correct that people can and will escape Islam, based on their probability to do so. Mercury is just making the point that Islam can prove different and tougher than the situation many escaping Christians have found themselves in.

People go in directions they are most comfortable with, so they will most likely follow ex-muslims out of the trap, who they can most easily relate to.

The islam-focused RTR's will be useful here, although no enemy programming can survive in the current situation, regardless of these.
Yep
 
AFODO said:

So you could make articles about it that might be added to exposing Islam?
Maybe you could word yourself like if you were talking to them directly.
Of course, I would love to do that and will. When I am ready, experienced, and have advanced to a certain point.

I am still a bit young figuring life and stuff out. Also, going through tough periods and transits that I'll need to pull through.

I feel very bad everyday I am not able to do much regarding the Arabic translations. Parts of this because life is seriously busy and a mess rn especially with about 5-6 Saturn retrogade transits lol. I also need a new laptop because my last one got stolen.

Also, I am working overtime 11 hr night shifts and most of my salary goes to support my family because mom works seasonally and I don't have a father. (He is alive just not there for us.)

I also miss my ex from time to time but realise she is a lost cause currently. I also miss my best friend who I lost too.

Hahaha I just needed to vent. But other than all this I am being productive and building nice blocks for the future.
 
mercury_wisdom said:
Henu the Great said:
mercury_wisdom said:
You are making a lot of assumptions and generalizations, and you also make the mistake of stating that we can't help which is evidently completely the opposite of truth as you can see from this topic, not to mention dozens and dozens of other times.

However, your response could be used in conjunction with someone ignorant about this topic.
Well, the thing is. If I was a muslim myself and started to leave islam by JoS website alone I don't think it would be effective in anyway.

I was already an atheist/spiritual person before finding JoS.

I don't think you understand how islam works. If you don't speak Arabic you can never really understand islam or what happens in muslim arabic countries.

Arabic is similar to hebrew in the sense that any translations for the Quran or any other islamic text are totally invalid can't be translated. Most of the times they get mistranslated/misunderstood which gives way for islamics to do their mental gymnastics.

Also, almost 100% of all the stuff on JoS regarding islam will never be understood by islamic people. The programming is concrete thick. There are also many mistakes as well as misunderstood things that lead for islamic people to disregard the whole thing.
Making a "Exposing Islam" site is actually planned. Can you please email me what mistakes the current sites have? My email is in ny signature
 

You really want to make your life harder by crying after exs. Get over it bro, give no shit about it. You will find better partner and friends.

I cut off a 7 years friend of mine in one day, gave no shit about it, as I realized I won't get anything from it.

Don't feel yourself bad from something that you can't do, focus on solving your situation and than you can start to contribute again. I wish you good luck <3
 
AFODO said:

You really want to make your life harder by crying after exs. Get over it bro, give no shit about it. You will find better partner and friends.

I cut off a 7 years friend of mine in one day, gave no shit about it, as I realized I won't get anything from it.

Don't feel yourself bad from something that you can't do, focus on solving your situation and than you can start to contribute again. I wish you good luck <3
I am not crying about it. What gave you the impression I am?
I'm just missing them. That's it.

I don't believe you're thinking about this in a healthy way. If you're gonna lose a best friend for 7 years. You're allowed to feel bad about it. Don't wallow in depression or let your life stop. But take the time to feel your emotions then let them go.

The only case where you would not care about a close person like that is if you were a sociopath or something and can't feel emotions towards people in anyway.

You don't strike me as that kind of person so maybe you just suppress stuff as a defense mechanism. Which happens and we do that but that's not healthy really.

Other than that you're awesome and I hope you have good luck too. I also said alot in the message. So maybe why you replied to that specific part is that it hits home and you're also going through stuff aswell. Don't worry though. We're doing great. These are parts of life anyway.
 
AskSatanOperator said:
why Islam is false?

I just can't believe that any god would be cruel enough to banish the people he created to eternal hellfire for having "sinful" thoughts, which they have no control over.

- For one.

What does the Quran teach you about rising the kundalini serpent? Just like xianity it teaches zero and nothing about that.
It does teach you how to have it constantly down and inactive though, as well as becoming a total slave.
These two main deadly teachings goes very much go hand in hand here.

Spiritual Satanism is about the opposite; awakening and rising the kundalini serpent and becoming independent; a God in your own right. We would not want to chop off someones head just because someone burned a book for example; as we are stronger, more intelligent and more civilized than that. Yoga leads to this, and Islam the opposite.

For those same reasons we would not want to rape or punish women for dressing a certain way either. Muslims acting in such ways are doing so because of their sick indoctrination and also inner weakness - due to Lack of True Spiritual practice - which JoS provides - and Islam and Christinsanity hides away and call "evil". Just read what it says on http://www.joyofsatan.org and read it carefully. And THINK. Too many people in this world just goes along with the sick flow of things. You want to become strong and happy don't you? Then don't be a mudslime.
 

My situation and yours when it comes to this ex friend thing is different as I see. You probably lost them in a bad way, but in my case, I broke the relationship because it had no purpose and it was toxic. I did not get disrupted, I just lived just as before.

under "cry" I did not really meant constantly crying and depression, I just couldn't express myself better.
You are right, you should cry your self out, and express your feelings and whatever, but as I remember you have talked about this before and it was like a month ago? Maybe it wasn't you I don't know, but I wrote my reply in this fate, that you have been affected by this for month which is not ideal I think.

Whatsoever they say that you can process a brake up under half the time the relationship was, but in my opinion its too much.

I have an ex that was the perfect woman in my life, I had the best time in my life with her but she lived 280km away and she wasn't my race. We broke up in a calm state, it was a long time to process this but I regret now, because I could have process this faster I think, and it was really disrupting, not ideal :)

Other than that you're awesome and I hope you have good luck too

Thanks for the kind words.
 
Henu the Great said:
mercury_wisdom said:
Also, almost 100% of all the stuff on JoS regarding islam will never be understood by islamic people. The programming is concrete thick. There are also many mistakes as well as misunderstood things that lead for islamic people to disregard the whole thing.
Those who are to become Spiritual Satanists will become no matter what and the guides, articles, and help are reserved for them. Those who repeatedly stumble and fall continue to do so until they are ready or succumb to their failure and ultimately cease to exist.

She doesnt mean disrespect:)
You know when you have lived your whole life in an islamic country and under islamic laws,its like another planet.

For example when I was a muslim,there was this video of a muslim man who beheaded his wife and was showing her head to other muslims and they were celebrating.The video still exists as I saved it to know why I will never ever get married in this country.
I had a panic attack by the video that was spreading and people were all supporting it(muslims).
Now how is someone that has never been a muslim or living in an islamic country understands how helpless non muslims are in islamic country?

In the last 2 years in my country every four days a woman or little girl has been tortured to death because of islam(honor killings).Its a femicide.Its in our national news and is proven and based on sources.Now imagine how many girls have been killed by muslims and they havent been caught.....

If I tell this to people who havent seen muslims,they will not believe me.

The point is that muslims dont see western values as the norm,they see nothing wrong with most of the things you consider evil like murder,paedophilia,rape and stealing from non muslims because thats what their false god tells them,and islamic countries brainwash their kids from a very young age to become that way.

We know that you can see how wrong and bad it is,and we know that you try to fix muslims,but you dont know how to do it and most of the times it seems impossible to win a debate against those animals.

Look at this video brother:

https://youtu.be/FfEUXndMFXA?si=L_N-y7jM6vHiC3TG

Look at daniel haqiqatjou for example,he does represent most muslims.
He is living in America and Americans talk to him and allow him to defend paedophilia because they dont think he or anyone will actually do it!
Western values are superior and most western people dont take muslims seriously when they are telling them their plans!!!
He clearly is asking for that disgusting act to become legal and no American is taking him seriously!!!!They cant even imagine how evil muslims truly are.They think he is just talking and he wont do it
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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