Making pay

[lestat]

Good afternoon

Just for information. I could'nt recuperate my old account altought I used many times lost password. I never reveived any email. I need advices.

To resume my minor kid in a party was stab with a hunter knife 4 times by an adult of 40 years old last saturday., And his friend trying to defend him also. Both are alive and will recuperate. But the guy will be accused only with threathening kids with a knife instead of tempting to murder him. He may have max 5 years in prison, no jury, Nothing.

The problem, is that he is a working for the justice prisons and may get out of it with ridiculous prison time or even nothing. It may explain why thay let him ouot right away the same day.The name hasn't been confirmed to me yet and I do not know his look until the court .

Any ideas how to make him pay ? I though using with grey energies on him, may be calling Maat or Nécronomicon mantras ? For sure I m going to start a 40 days work on him and you can guess easily what.

Thanks for any cues.

Hail satan.

 

[Hp. Hoodedcobra666]

This is extremely saddening and terrible.

This is liable to a death spell. A 40 year old man stabbing a teenager at a party?

Whatever the kid did to him, did certainly not deserve this criminal treatment, unless he attacked him first with intent to kill or something.

Alternatively, you can do spiritual work so that he rots indefinitely in prison.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Do not use any death spells from the Necronomicon! There is no way to seperate that energy from yourself, and you would be the first person that energy would harm if you're the one using it!

If you want to do something like that, find a different way.

 

[Shael]

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Deathspell him.

Option #1, the dominative approach

A simple dominative approach will also work and is 100% safe, as opposed to these death mantras which may also work, but in the process would take you down as well.

If you want to do deathspells, look into what is written on the JoS, and alternatively use something like "Aum zAsitR" (read up on it here) or Sowilo/Thurisaz (there are tons of runes that work here, read their effects in the runic kabalah) to first give yourself authority and control over the target and then combining this with the aura-deathspell on the JoS and filling their aura with grey/black energy.

To Kill using the aura:
A poppit here is not necessary, nor is any ceremonial magick, but you must be much more powerful than the intended victim. This is best done while the offending party is asleep. Put a grey aura around the person.
Affirm:
"The grey death energy is killing [name of person]." This work is best begun on a Saturday or a Tuesday during a waning Moon. Be sure to clean your aura and chakras following each working.
This can be done following the above ritual with the poppit and repeated every night during the cycle of the waning moon until the victim meets his/her death.

Make also sure to clean yourself thoroughly after doing this. Give the energies a bit to settle and then thoroughly clean yourself after every time you perform such a working.


Option #2, the purely Runic approach.

Maxine has said in her mp3 that the Runes can be vibrated backwards for black magick purposes. Look into the Runic Kabalah for more information on each Rune's characteristics when used for black magick. This method of course also requires thorough cleaning after each time you perform the working.



My personal recommendation is #1, because I have never tested the backwards runic vibrations before. However, since it comes from Maxine herself it will very likely work just fine.

If you have any questions about how to do the above, and/or if anything is unclear, just let me know.

 

[Orpheus]

1) train yourself for a black magic operation: do meditations that train you in feeling the energies, especially how to direct them outside. It's important to train your sense of inside/outside so to speak, to make sure that the curse and your will reach the target.
2) train yourself in visualization: in visualizing the white light to clean yourself, and visualizing the runes on the target.
And in void meditation aswell to feel runes better.
3) For the curse, use runes. Ing to absorb (vital/pranic) energies, Gebo and Isa for binding (to the curse for example, or to the punishment you choose) Thaur and Hagl to destroy. Don't use sanskrit.
For cleaning, sun mantras (Hrim, Suryaye), Vishuddi, Algiz (rune).
4) Build power through constant and a solid routine of yoga/qi gong/ meditation... anything. It has to be daily, this is what matters.
5) Call the Gods, since this is a serious tort. They will surely help you to direct the energies.

 

[darkmonkey666]

...

Deathspell him.

Option #1, the dominative approach

A simple dominative approach will also work and is 100% safe, as opposed to these death mantras which may also work, but in the process would take you down as well.

If you want to do deathspells, look into what is written on the JoS, and alternatively use something like "Aum zAsitR" (read up on it here) or Sowilo/Thurisaz (there are tons of runes that work here, read their effects in the runic kabalah) to first give yourself authority and control over the target and then combining this with the aura-deathspell on the JoS and filling their aura with grey/black energy.

To Kill using the aura:
A poppit here is not necessary, nor is any ceremonial magick, but you must be much more powerful than the intended victim. This is best done while the offending party is asleep. Put a grey aura around the person.
Affirm:
"The grey death energy is killing [name of person]." This work is best begun on a Saturday or a Tuesday during a waning Moon. Be sure to clean your aura and chakras following each working.
This can be done following the above ritual with the poppit and repeated every night during the cycle of the waning moon until the victim meets his/her death.

Make also sure to clean yourself thoroughly after doing this. Give the energies a bit to settle and then thoroughly clean yourself after every time you perform such a working.


Option #2, the purely Runic approach.

Maxine has said in her mp3 that the Runes can be vibrated backwards for black magick purposes. Look into the Runic Kabalah for more information on each Rune's characteristics when used for black magick. This method of course also requires thorough cleaning after each time you perform the working.



My personal recommendation is #1, because I have never tested the backwards runic vibrations before. However, since it comes from Maxine herself it will very likely work just fine.

If you have any questions about how to do the above, and/or if anything is unclear, just let me know.

I tried that on perth and kaun rune a long time ago back when some people were creating group workings. If you are going to use a sigil or visualize the rune when you do this reverse the rune in this as well. Like for example how the enemy reversed algiz in the peace symbol etc that was called a death rune or something itself so maybe that might even be a good one didn't try this one. This just simply reverses the meaning of the rune so for hint you would read the meaning of the rune like usual on the runic Kabbalah page then if what you want to do is the opposite of what the white magick meaning of the rune is then that what you want then that is a rune you want to use most probably. I don't know I am not an expert but thinking logically maybe reversing something like hagal or thurizaz wouldn't do what you want to here. You may want to use a rune like this the regular way. Anyways you should be able to tell by the energy what you are doing even if you are not extremely open so experiement if it's not what you want use another rune.

Make sure to cleanse yourself also don't use Sanskrit curse words either I think that is what you meant it was Marin I think not maat that they called these mantras oh and unlike the Necromicon thing there is a way to use them safely and they were used in the ancient times I think Maxine said she would reveal it when she is told it's safe to BUT right now don't do it and it's not safe at all cause no amount of cleaning will stop this from fucking up your life she said I remember that sermon.

You could probably do a search on Yahoo groups for these sermons on these topics if you want i don't know where they are right now

 

[Shael]

I don't know I am not an expert but thinking logically maybe reversing something like hagal or thurizaz wouldn't do what you want to here.

Based on the audio from Maxine, it seems that the rune meanings do not get reversed if you vibrate them in this way. All that the reverse vibration (supposedly) does is to prevent you from connecting into the harmful energies, in the case of black magick.

Make sure to cleanse yourself also don't use Sanskrit curse words either

I'm not sure if you wrote this just as a general statement, or as a reply to me recommending "zAsitR". As for zAsitR itself, it is completely safe to use in the way I described. The reason for this is that the mantra is not used for actual black magick, but rather to give the user an authorative position over the target. This then makes it much easier to fill the target with grey death energies afterwards, as they will be subconsciously open to the user's influence.

 

[darkmonkey666]

I don't know I am not an expert but thinking logically maybe reversing something like hagal or thurizaz wouldn't do what you want to here.

Based on the audio from Maxine, it seems that the rune meanings do not get reversed if you vibrate them in this way. All that the reverse vibration (supposedly) does is to prevent you from connecting into the harmful energies, in the case of black magick.

Make sure to cleanse yourself also don't use Sanskrit curse words either

I'm not sure if you wrote this just as a general statement, or as a reply to me recommending "zAsitR". As for zAsitR itself, it is completely safe to use in the way I described. The reason for this is that the mantra is not used for actual black magick, but rather to give the user an authorative position over the target. This then makes it much easier to fill the target with grey death energies afterwards, as they will be subconsciously open to the user's influence.

It was just a general reply I know about Zasitr it's cool it can be used to get people to do other things other than just black magick (why have I seen it only talked about in this context) though pretty much you think of it and you need someone to do something or believe something specific you can if you have enough power use a word like this to make them do what you want. If you know how to be athoritative and kind of own the energy.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Just use the runes the way they already are. Thurisaz, Hagl, Isa.

 

[ShadowTheRaven]

This is extremely saddening and terrible.

This is liable to a death spell. A 40 year old man stabbing a teenager at a party?

Whatever the kid did to him, did certainly not deserve this criminal treatment, unless he attacked him first with intent to kill or something.

Alternatively, you can do spiritual work so that he rots indefinitely in prison.

This.

If you're in the US, prison inmates don't take too kindly to people who threaten, abuse, rape, or kill children. I just hope whatever prison he went to doesn't have a protective custody unit because inmates who target kids, once the others in the pod get ahold of the paperwork he's probably gonna get shanked.

So I would suggest a death spell to increase the chances of that happening.

 

[lestat]

Good afternoon, everyone

I just check the forum. Thanks a lot for all your advices and help


To give more precise information, the guy attacked from behind hiding his knife in his back. Wasn't from his friend warning him, the knife... When he step back, my son protected his face by raising his arm saving himself. But they are kids, his friends neutralised the assailant but they forgot to take out his knife or to tie the guy. Instead the flew in the house and closed it. But once teh assaillant was able to stand, he pursued them in the house to finish his work. At the end, he flee to an other house probably when he saw one kid calling on his cellular 911.

Since the advices I won't use the necronomicon or sanskrit. But I m going to look the planets when it is the best to start a 40 days . Saturn (yama) is justice, probably best to start a saturday at the hour of saturn.

I will check what it is the best. As said I m waiting more details (picture, name) to help to direct the energy. Sending energy balls with intent of attacking the guilty one looks hazardous to me. Just visualizing a person without a face too.

zAsitR in sanscrit means governor, ruler ... but the right prononciation is śāsitṛ (shaasitri). Do you have more details on the application Shael ? The way I see your intent, it is vibrating it with an affirmation like «Im controlling the aura of ..., I M in the position of doing .. .». In taht case, we do it before starting the curse or any other training.

Anyway, since I do not know his strenght, I will suck out his energy first before putting grey and the runes in him. Combining isaz hagalaz, tiwaz with sowilo looks like the best choice.

Also, I have modified the protection and cleaning in reverse torah ritual (rtr 2) to include my family. I do not know why, but it looks like it is easier to Attack me by my family and belongings . It brings distraction from the training.
We may thing that traiing auric defense, protect the ones around us. May be the ennemy bypass my defenses ttat way. After all, every time that I go to vacation far from my home something costly broke, and since I wasn't at the party, my son which was far from home was attacked and damaged. Coïncidences ?

http://spokensanskrit.org/index.php?mode=3&script=hk&tran_input=zAsitR&direct=au&anz=100

:|

 

[Shael]

It was just a general reply I know about Zasitr it's cool it can be used to get people to do other things other than just black magick (why have I seen it only talked about in this context)

All good then. Also I was the one who discovered, tested and shared this mantra in the first place. I know it has other uses as well, but those are not relevant here as we're talking about a deathspell.

 

[Shael]

zAsitR in sanscrit means governor, ruler ... but the right prononciation is śāsitṛ (shaasitri). Do you have more details on the application Shael ? The way I see your intent, it is vibrating it with an affirmation like «Im controlling the aura of ..., I M in the position of doing .. .». In taht case, we do it before starting the curse or any other training.

zAsitR basically has the energies of a dominative ruler, someone who has authority over another person, or group of people. The use of this mantra is to establish yourself to have control over the target you are trying to do the deathspell on.
It would likely have the best effect if you split it into two parts, starting with the first part using zAsitR, with an affirmation like "In a positive way for me, [person's name] is completely and fully under my control at all times.", or "In a positive way for me, [person's name] is completely open and receptive towards my energies and will". Any affirmation like this will work, so feel free to make your own. The above are just examples.
The second part would then be the actual deathspell, which you would want to do after the first part. Wait perhaps 30 minutes inbetween those two, or even an hour depending on how long it takes for all the energies to settle.

As for the vibration, I have used it successfully with simple germanic pronounciation, like with the runes.
So "ZZZ-AAAAAA-SSS-EEE-TTT-RRRRRR". The "a" like in "father", the "i" like an English "e". If anything is unclear there, check the Runic Kabalah pdf on more pronounciation info.
The "a" and "r" in zAsitR are to be vibrated with more volume and power, because they are capitalized.

 

[Jack]

zAsitR in sanscrit means governor, ruler ... but the right prononciation is śāsitṛ (shaasitri). Do you have more details on the application Shael ? The way I see your intent, it is vibrating it with an affirmation like «Im controlling the aura of ..., I M in the position of doing .. .». In taht case, we do it before starting the curse or any other training.

zAsitR basically has the energies of a dominative ruler, someone who has authority over another person, or group of people. The use of this mantra is to establish yourself to have control over the target you are trying to do the deathspell on.
It would likely have the best effect if you split it into two parts, starting with the first part using zAsitR, with an affirmation like "In a positive way for me, [person's name] is completely and fully under my control at all times.", or "In a positive way for me, [person's name] is completely open and receptive towards my energies and will". Any affirmation like this will work, so feel free to make your own. The above are just examples.
The second part would then be the actual deathspell, which you would want to do after the first part. Wait perhaps 30 minutes inbetween those two, or even an hour depending on how long it takes for all the energies to settle.

As for the vibration, I have used it successfully with simple germanic pronounciation, like with the runes.
So "ZZZ-AAAAAA-SSS-EEE-TTT-RRRRRR". The "a" like in "father", the "i" like an English "e". If anything is unclear there, check the Runic Kabalah pdf on more pronounciation info.
The "a" and "r" in zAsitR are to be vibrated with more volume and power, because they are capitalized.

Could this be used before any working ON sermon to make them receptive more ? Like using this to exhibit dominance over their being then direct energy for love/lust ?

 

[Shael]

Could this be used before any working ON sermon to make them receptive more ? Like using this to exhibit dominance over their being then direct energy for love/lust ?

"On sermon"? You mean on any working on another person? It would work yeah. It's a question of whether of not it should be done in some cases, though. zAsitR can be a bit brutal so I don't think I'd recommend it for a love spell. Maybe if you know that the girl is into being dominated by someone, and you use a ton of safety clauses in the affirmation.

Do not force someone into a relationship against their will with magick. Trying to make a girl your slave would be a very disgraceful thing to do, and zAsitR can break the spirit of the target when used with enough power. Always be careful with this and keep ethics in mind.

 

[Pudro]

Good morning my Brothers and Sisters in Satan

Been wondering for a long time now - What happens when one hits an enemy with a death spell, to be more specific - is the spirit of the deceased going to bother me ?

 

[Jack]

Could this be used before any working ON sermon to make them receptive more ? Like using this to exhibit dominance over their being then direct energy for love/lust ?

"On sermon"? You mean on any working on another person? It would work yeah. It's a question of whether of not it should be done in some cases, though. zAsitR can be a bit brutal so I don't think I'd recommend it for a love spell. Maybe if you know that the girl is into being dominated by someone, and you use a ton of safety clauses in the affirmation.

Do not force someone into a relationship against their will with magick. Trying to make a girl your slave would be a very disgraceful thing to do, and zAsitR can break the spirit of the target when used with enough power. Always be careful with this and keep ethics in mind.

I see . Thanks for the info.
I meant *on someone*. Fucking autocorrect

 

[darkmonkey666]

Could this be used before any working ON sermon to make them receptive more ? Like using this to exhibit dominance over their being then direct energy for love/lust ?

"On sermon"? You mean on any working on another person? It would work yeah. It's a question of whether of not it should be done in some cases, though. zAsitR can be a bit brutal so I don't think I'd recommend it for a love spell. Maybe if you know that the girl is into being dominated by someone, and you use a ton of safety clauses in the affirmation.

Do not force someone into a relationship against their will with magick. Trying to make a girl your slave would be a very disgraceful thing to do, and zAsitR can break the spirit of the target when used with enough power. Always be careful with this and keep ethics in mind.

That is true. When I was mentioning it can be used for just about anything where a person wants to make someone do/believe something I was never thinking of allies friends or someone I like when saying that I was more thinking of your in a situation you have to deal with something you don't like or something is forced on you so push back for example an xtian family member forces you to go to church confuse them and make them leave xtianity (though don't force them to be Satanic that is totally wrong) fair is fair there or if you absolutely need something from someone for survival or something . I'd never suggest this kind of thing in a love spell.

However not talked about id think maybe this is awesome to own or control life situations making things go your way kind of like that Necromicon thing. If so it would be awesome to use in general not necessarily on a specific person. I am ethical btw

 

[darkmonkey666]

Oh and yes I admit to a person like me with aries and Scorpio stuff this is like the most cool thing in the world to dominate own and control things that is why I like this word and energy so much.

So if you do too like own things and this energy and your life but don't make people your slaves.

 

[Shael]

However not talked about id think maybe this is awesome to own or control life situations making things go your way kind of like that Necromicon thing. If so it would be awesome to use in general not necessarily on a specific person. I am ethical btw

It's a forceful mantra, so I don't think it would work overly well for this. Controlling situations and attracting things to yourself is usually best done with feminine/magnetic energies, rather than trying to brute-force your way through.

 

[darkmonkey666]

However not talked about id think maybe this is awesome to own or control life situations making things go your way kind of like that Necromicon thing. If so it would be awesome to use in general not necessarily on a specific person. I am ethical btw

It's a forceful mantra, so I don't think it would work overly well for this. Controlling situations and attracting things to yourself is usually best done with feminine/magnetic energies, rather than trying to brute-force your way through.

Ok I will just stick with the Necromicon addu thing then that actually worked quite well and helped me out of a situation that is if the God's didn't help out as well not sure.

Honestly me I am not big on controlling people unless it's an emergency and I have to defend myself from someone. But I very much want to be able to control situations to my advantage often so this probably isn't a great mantra for me to use that often.

 

[darkmonkey666]

However not talked about id think maybe this is awesome to own or control life situations making things go your way kind of like that Necromicon thing. If so it would be awesome to use in general not necessarily on a specific person. I am ethical btw

It's a forceful mantra, so I don't think it would work overly well for this. Controlling situations and attracting things to yourself is usually best done with feminine/magnetic energies, rather than trying to brute-force your way through.

Oh damn I replied but I forgot to ask the full reason I was replying to this. You seem very well versed and knowledgeable in this kind of stuff I was wondering if you knew anything more about what you said like any other workings other than the Necromicon ones or mantras that can be used to take control of life situations this could probably be helpful for some people cause I mean even if someone has the power on focus and intent alone to do this sometimes (I do due to having a lot of 8th house stuff) it doesn't always work and me and probably others would love something to give it an extra push for a few days or however long is needed depending on the situation. The one I was talking about could have been really bad and forced me to go live with someone who was strongly xtian so glad I got out of that but I know this can be used on any situation someone might want to control.


Oh and this whole taking over people thing does feel a little dirty and not right for most situations I must admit but it's nice to know in case someone may need it someday to better their situation like for example a job or a buisness deal etc when talking to someone that I think is ok.

Anyways I appreciate your replies

 

[Shael]

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I think the issue here lies in how you go about it. You just take the specific situation you want to change/control, and then pick a mantra based on this. In your example above, with having to live with some Xian, you can use the rune Raidho to bring about a moving of residence in a positive way. You can even combine this with Othal if you want to look for getting a permanent home.

If you want to control a social situation, use Ansuz, perhaps even in combination with Uruz and/or Sowilo. Use an affirmation to make you control social situations with your speech and actions.

If you want to control yourself and stop with bullshit self-pity, use Nauthiz and Eihwaz.

90% of things can be controlled simply by using the right rune or runes for the purpose and doing a working for that purpose.
The mantra that comes closest to being a "jack of all trades" is Addu as you already know. If you want to rely on factors in the background to change the situation, then Addu is the best choice. Otherwise, use the runes tailored to the specific purpose.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

do you gotta know said persons name

If I had to guess, I wouldn't say it is essential, but you have to know who they are in some way to properly direct the energy to them. Like if you saw them, you might be ok, but if it was just someone telling you about them, then it might be too difficult.

You could probably also affirm it to "my son's attacker", as long as you can focus well.

 

[darkmonkey666]

...

Deathspell him.

Option #1, the dominative approach

A simple dominative approach will also work and is 100% safe, as opposed to these death mantras which may also work, but in the process would take you down as well.

If you want to do deathspells, look into what is written on the JoS, and alternatively use something like "Aum zAsitR" (read up on it here) or Sowilo/Thurisaz (there are tons of runes that work here, read their effects in the runic kabalah) to first give yourself authority and control over the target and then combining this with the aura-deathspell on the JoS and filling their aura with grey/black energy.

To Kill using the aura:
A poppit here is not necessary, nor is any ceremonial magick, but you must be much more powerful than the intended victim. This is best done while the offending party is asleep. Put a grey aura around the person.
Affirm:
"The grey death energy is killing [name of person]." This work is best begun on a Saturday or a Tuesday during a waning Moon. Be sure to clean your aura and chakras following each working.
This can be done following the above ritual with the poppit and repeated every night during the cycle of the waning moon until the victim meets his/her death.

Make also sure to clean yourself thoroughly after doing this. Give the energies a bit to settle and then thoroughly clean yourself after every time you perform such a working.


Option #2, the purely Runic approach.

Maxine has said in her mp3 that the Runes can be vibrated backwards for black magick purposes. Look into the Runic Kabalah for more information on each Rune's characteristics when used for black magick. This method of course also requires thorough cleaning after each time you perform the working.



My personal recommendation is #1, because I have never tested the backwards runic vibrations before. However, since it comes from Maxine herself it will very likely work just fine.

If you have any questions about how to do the above, and/or if anything is unclear, just let me know.

do you gotta know said persons name

No you don't. All you have to do is be able to connect to their energy in some way to visualize them and then direct the curse into their soul. If you dont have the ability to do this or at least visualize the person your probably not going to be able to do anything. You can pretty much just say "my sons attacker" or something like that if you wanted that is pretty good like the person above me said. But anyways if your unable to direct this into their soul or visualize them its a waste of time pretty much.