Just for his looks?

[NakedPluto [JG]]

Thank you for the well wishes.

I had no idea food could be used in love spells, though since I've used food in energy healing, I guess I should've connected those dots.

I'm wondering if this relates... Once I tried beef heart, and as I was preparing it for dinner I felt emotions in my head, impressions of its life right before it had been slaughtered. Contentment, confusion in the moments leading to its death, then a fraction of a second of fear when the animal knew it was about to die just before it was killed. It was the first time I'd had that happen, and I felt compelled to make a prayer for the life I'd hoped it had and the sustenance it was now giving me. As I was eating it, I could taste those emotions in the meat.

I don't usually have organ meat, it's a rare treat, but the experience makes me wonder. Compared to muscle meat, the organs seem to have a much more potent energy effect. I'm not really sure how to analyse it.

It is possible, especially if this animal was grown by a bad farmer/production and bought as so. There are imprints in the organs, such as fear staying in a specific organ and so on. I do believe that is so.

This should also be known, animals butchered and killed wrong and horribly, will have toxins and imprints that make the meat taste horribly. While a peaceful death will have the meat very good.

Animals who are happy, taste good. Eggs from normal farms or people who hold chickens are extraordinary tasty, while from big production farms where the chicken has literally 2 cm of space, tastes like crap.

You have extensive empathy ability. While you might experience these things, others have no idea of what you talk about. You must know so you do not get too sensitive to what is damaging to you, such as subjects of death and suffering. Do try to be selective of your attention with this.

If someone would watch how these cows and animals are killed, would also understand the need of buying from small time businesses, farmers and people who deal with this on a local level and not big industries who torture these animals.

 

[Shadowcat]

...

I never used the phrase "dark manifestation of Lilith". The O9A's main female deity, Shugara, led me to the blackpill. Shugara is a mish-mash deity of various dark goddesses (including Lilith) but they larp and pretend she was some japanese withcraft goddess.

Let me help you out here one more time. I'm glad you are trying to find out the truth as far as trying to connect to the Gods, but trust all of us on this: stay away from anything related to O9A. Nothing from them will ever help you connect to Satan or the Gods. Whatever you think "lead" you to anything is not of our Gods at all or just your own mind. O9A not only is filled with jews, but they promote enemy programs also like trying to justify parts of Islam as well as rape and murder. Stay away from them and anything from them. If you disagree and are drawn to this it is on you and your choice. But everyone here will tell you others have come back to tell us we were right or about other bad experiences trying to reach out to other entities elsewhere. Just trying to save you the trouble.

O9A is bad news.

 

[xlnt]

...

I never used the phrase "dark manifestation of Lilith". The O9A's main female deity, Shugara, led me to the blackpill. Shugara is a mish-mash deity of various dark goddesses (including Lilith) but they larp and pretend she was some japanese withcraft goddess.

Let me help you out here one more time. I'm glad you are trying to find out the truth as far as trying to connect to the Gods, but trust all of us on this: stay away from anything related to O9A. Nothing from them will ever help you connect to Satan or the Gods. Whatever you think "lead" you to anything is not of our Gods at all or just your own mind. O9A not only is filled with jews, but they promote enemy programs also like trying to justify parts of Islam as well as rape and murder. Stay away from them and anything from them. If you disagree and are drawn to this it is on you and your choice. But everyone here will tell you others have come back to tell us we were right or about other bad experiences trying to reach out to other entities elsewhere. Just trying to save you the trouble.

O9A is bad news.

Do these "Order of the Nine Angles" even have an official website? I can't seem to find one.
They seem shadowy and weird to say the least. Any similarites at all to JoS?

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

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It took me a day or so till I remembered this.. what you mentioned about food tasting different when prepped by diff ppl.

I noticed that after my mom couldn't cook for us anymore, and my dad cooked a meal. It was so different despite not even having all that different ingredients...

As for the meat.. I do feel a lot clearer abstaining from it.. the feelings def are there esp after having a meat fondue. You get used to it though, it takes a while till this feeling subsides if you regurlarly eat meat.

And Im not even talking organ meats here.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

...

As for the meat.. I do feel a lot clearer abstaining from it.. the feelings def are there esp after having a meat fondue. You get used to it though, it takes a while till this feeling subsides if you regurlarly eat meat.

And Im not even talking organ meats here.

This is a situation where we must remember the important of having a strong Saturn to protect us from the negativity found within the world.

In this case, abstaining entirely from meat is difficult because meat is also very nourishing. However, one good substitute to this problem would be chicken eggs or cheese. The only downside is that these items are more yin-building, as opposed to something like red meat which is both yin and yang building.

Yet, the best way to increase our body's yang is through exercise and not so much through diet. So you can compensate for a denser diet with increased exercise.

 

[Shadowcat]

...

I never used the phrase "dark manifestation of Lilith". The O9A's main female deity, Shugara, led me to the blackpill. Shugara is a mish-mash deity of various dark goddesses (including Lilith) but they larp and pretend she was some japanese withcraft goddess.

Let me help you out here one more time. I'm glad you are trying to find out the truth as far as trying to connect to the Gods, but trust all of us on this: stay away from anything related to O9A. Nothing from them will ever help you connect to Satan or the Gods. Whatever you think "lead" you to anything is not of our Gods at all or just your own mind. O9A not only is filled with jews, but they promote enemy programs also like trying to justify parts of Islam as well as rape and murder. Stay away from them and anything from them. If you disagree and are drawn to this it is on you and your choice. But everyone here will tell you others have come back to tell us we were right or about other bad experiences trying to reach out to other entities elsewhere. Just trying to save you the trouble.

O9A is bad news.

Do these "Order of the Nine Angles" even have an official website? I can't seem to find one.
They seem shadowy and weird to say the least. Any similarites at all to JoS?

Good. Don't find it. Your curiosity is natural but is best channeled elsewhere. I'm telling you this to protect all of you and other new people especially, stay away from any rat groups claiming having to do with Satanism that isn't Jos including the kikenwaffen.

Things happen that often do not end well in those groups when it involves contact with other people.

 

[Shadowcat]

I want a woman who looks like Zafina from Tekken 7.

We all have had fantasies, but they do have to make compromises with reality and what is there. Even our first choices in real life are not going to be perfect.

If you look at it too, every human being based on their potential is immaculate outside and inside, if you are open enough to perceive this potential in someone in the present moment as if it has already come to pass. This is what the Gods do with us, knowing all our capacities, strengths, and weaknesses.

Before I asked for a Demon I was so concerned with all my imperfections, physical and otherwise despite having improved so much of them thinking I could never be good enough. But the Gods see our future and potential and bond with us based on that due to their amazing and massive perception. Any SS who are blessed enough to have achieved to be this open or even to a lesser extent will see this beautiful potential as well as if in the present moment.

Everyone has to work towards being able to do this however and does not come easy, and I certainly do not claim to have achieved the above yet. I am growing like everyone else, as we all are at different paces. One of the evolutionary steps that comes behind this is working towards fulfilling potential in every way despite not being completely open to seeing what that is yet, knowing it is there to be achieved, while still only being able to perceive what is in the actual present moment as far as progress with mind body and soul in oneself and in others. With this it can be hard to see past any imperfections, in oneself and others, so one must also be realistic and compromise, at least to a point, knowing that the "ideal" is basically after lifetimes of hard work and patience. Till then, the best thing to do, especially to make the best options a reality as well as your optimal potential, is to be the best version of yourself by working hard for it. Because that potential that the Gods see in us cannot be done for us. We have to make it a reality ourselves.

Whatever goals are desired may be accomplished soon or after a lifetime or two. But no one is doomed to remain the exact same, ever, which is why most people get hung up on why they fall short. They think it's what they have been dealt and something their soul will always have. When you come to Satan, you learn this is far from true, and it is liberating, to say the least.

 

[hailourtruegod]

Thought Primal was Black this whole time for some reason. His choice of woman just made me realize otherwise lol.

Very well put Shadowcat. You really do have a great outlook at life. I have to completely agree with what you wrote and want to add that this is why even some all-star athletes and some celebrities sometimes have regular looking wives. These guys can get the most superficial but highly instagram attractive woman but have what is in my opinion as average looking wives/baby mothers, respectively. Not calling them ugly but objectively one can see the difference in appearance. I have examples but I rather not post them lol.

I too would not mind an extremely beautiful model-like Mexican woman but now I also have been very attracted to slightly above average looking Mexican women who are intelligent or at least have common sense as well as a good personality and now I'm at a point where I would have a serious relationship with one who is like a 7 out 10 and I'm actually pretty handsome myself :lol:

Mind you I don't like using those measurements but just using it as a way to express my points.

Of course as long as we ourselves are putting the work to better ourselves then we deserve a partner who does the same then from there as long as they are healthy the "level" of attractiveness becomes an afterthought.

 

[Shadowcat]

Thought Primal was Black this whole time for some reason. His choice of woman just made me realize otherwise lol.

Very well put Shadowcat. You really do have a great outlook at life. I have to completely agree with what you wrote and want to add that this is why even some all-star athletes and some celebrities sometimes have regular looking wives. These guys can get the most superficial but highly instagram attractive woman but have what is in my opinion as average looking wives/baby mothers, respectively. Not calling them ugly but objectively one can see the difference in appearance. I have examples but I rather not post them lol.

I too would not mind an extremely beautiful model-like Mexican woman but now I also have been very attracted to slightly above average looking Mexican women who are intelligent or at least have common sense as well as a good personality and now I'm at a point where I would have a serious relationship with one who is like a 7 out 10 and I'm actually pretty handsome myself :lol:

Mind you I don't like using those measurements but just using it as a way to express my points.

Of course as long as we ourselves are putting the work to better ourselves then we deserve a partner who does the same then from there as long as they are healthy the "level" of attractiveness becomes an afterthought.

I think we all want the best of both worlds, but due to the state of humanity in general this right now isn't always feasible. There are a lot of people with great looks but horrible personalities and vice versa. Most normal and healthy people are turned off by horrible personalities, but still want someone that looks at least pretty decent but they don't have to be a model or something. Besides, due to various preferences in people's charts and certain aspects being subjective as far as what is attractive in body and mind, what one person finds neutral another person will be drawn to. there is a number of conventionally attractive men that I personally find neutral. One might in some lucky chance attract a partner with the best of both especially if they have this to give in return as well.

As far as being able to be open enough to see one's potential and experience it in the present moment, this is what I wished with someone I had mentioned here before. I found him very physically unattractive but other things about him told me he would be loyal and devoted to the extreme and I was very drawn to this and liked him also very much as a person.(although he had other psychological damages that told me the nature of my venus would make me make repeat mistakes which also played a factor) When I tried to mention before that I tried to bypass that I could not help finding him ugly unsuccessfully it made me sad...because I know that every Gentile has this potential in them in body and mind that show their future evolution, their path towards perfection. I tried seeing his, envisioning it, wanting to experience it, just as one of the Gods would do with one of us, or also a Demon partner, and I couldn't. It felt like I was going to go into illusions and love an idea of him and not for who he was. I told myself I was trying to experience feelings also that were not my own, as I could feel his thoughts and energy very strongly, even when he wasn't present in places where I only later found out he dwelled often.

Instead of jumping over steps and fantasizing about what could be, it is at least in the first stages best to work towards bringing things into the present moment that is physically perceivable when it comes to self-improvement and hopes and expectations of others. Everyone should focus on self-improvement in all ways bringing their progress into the perceivable present because as they go they will eventually increase in perception as they advance and see more than just only the present moment, in both body and soul. Before you know it at some point, all and actual potential will be for the average naked eye to see and perceive, like back in ancient times of humanity's excellence, when excelling in all things was mainstream and the norm. This is my hope. And this will not be brought to fruition by mere fantasy alone.

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

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As for the meat.. I do feel a lot clearer abstaining from it.. the feelings def are there esp after having a meat fondue. You get used to it though, it takes a while till this feeling subsides if you regurlarly eat meat.

And Im not even talking organ meats here.

This is a situation where we must remember the important of having a strong Saturn to protect us from the negativity found within the world.

In this case, abstaining entirely from meat is difficult because meat is also very nourishing. However, one good substitute to this problem would be chicken eggs or cheese. The only downside is that these items are more yin-building, as opposed to something like red meat which is both yin and yang building.

Yet, the best way to increase our body's yang is through exercise and not so much through diet. So you can compensate for a denser diet with increased exercise.

Mhm. Thank you for the additional info. Yes cheese and eggs are not an issue.

It takes about a week for me to get that clear feeling. It feels good but I also understand that I have to eat meat, for the things I can't get very well otherwise.
Such as iron..

 

[Eaomonomae]

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I never used the phrase "dark manifestation of Lilith". The O9A's main female deity, Shugara, led me to the blackpill. Shugara is a mish-mash deity of various dark goddesses (including Lilith) but they larp and pretend she was some japanese withcraft goddess.

Let me help you out here one more time. I'm glad you are trying to find out the truth as far as trying to connect to the Gods, but trust all of us on this: stay away from anything related to O9A. Nothing from them will ever help you connect to Satan or the Gods. Whatever you think "lead" you to anything is not of our Gods at all or just your own mind. O9A not only is filled with jews, but they promote enemy programs also like trying to justify parts of Islam as well as rape and murder. Stay away from them and anything from them. If you disagree and are drawn to this it is on you and your choice. But everyone here will tell you others have come back to tell us we were right or about other bad experiences trying to reach out to other entities elsewhere. Just trying to save you the trouble.

O9A is bad news.

Do these "Order of the Nine Angles" even have an official website? I can't seem to find one.
They seem shadowy and weird to say the least. Any similarites at all to JoS?

I would stay away. They take “might is right” to a level that is anti-social imo.

They are also Nazi Satanists, they have their own pantheon of deities they made up from borrowing from other LHP sources (Lucifer and Satan aren’t even main deities) but they claim to be a continuous ancient Germanic dark pagan cult that survived Christianization (obviously bullshit). Their worldview is that Europe (Aryan) has been parasitized by what they call a “Magian” entity / spirituality (Zoroastrianism, Judaism, Islam, and Christianity) and a time is coming where the Magian power will be overthrown and a new god emperor whom they call “Vindex” shall conquer Europe, eliminate non-whites from earth, and with technology transform us into gods as we colonize the planets and create new life on new planets.

Most are spergy school shooter types. The types that weren’t bullied enough. Having gone through some of their materials, they have no problem with human sacrifice and their black masses include everyone swallowing semen dipped Eucharists.

Anything beneficial in their material you can get elsewhere (I read at one point that they encourage their initiates to survive in the woods for two weeks or something like that).

There’s nothing dominant about them. They are all outcasted losers who have impotent power fantasies.

My work with Lucifer and Lilith have substantively transformed me for the better. Ignore those spergy faggots.

 

[nebu]

You should actually try it sometime. You can tell the health of a person, their mood and intentions they felt during the making of their dishes, and sometimes personality, by how the energy affects the taste of their food. Believe me, sick people don't make food that tastes healthy, even if they just made you a salad. A person with rotting energy in their aura, you can taste it in their cooking, it tastes and makes one feel like death.

thank you very much for the indirect advice, i’ve been experiencing and putting up with my mother's good and bad days in the kitchen, and i already know why, but sometimes it's getting tasteless or at some moments it's very good, and i have a few minutes ago i asked her to tell me what she puts because it doesn't look like food, as if it were something empty without even a very special touch, it changed a lot from what she fried and i fried seasoned, FUCK

she is even in a situation of lack of health stability, but because she deserved it, with pride

 

[xlnt]

Let me help you out here one more time. I'm glad you are trying to find out the truth as far as trying to connect to the Gods, but trust all of us on this: stay away from anything related to O9A. Nothing from them will ever help you connect to Satan or the Gods. Whatever you think "lead" you to anything is not of our Gods at all or just your own mind. O9A not only is filled with jews, but they promote enemy programs also like trying to justify parts of Islam as well as rape and murder. Stay away from them and anything from them. If you disagree and are drawn to this it is on you and your choice. But everyone here will tell you others have come back to tell us we were right or about other bad experiences trying to reach out to other entities elsewhere. Just trying to save you the trouble.

O9A is bad news.

Do these "Order of the Nine Angles" even have an official website? I can't seem to find one.
They seem shadowy and weird to say the least. Any similarites at all to JoS?

I would stay away. They take “might is right” to a level that is anti-social imo.

They are also Nazi Satanists, they have their own pantheon of deities they made up from borrowing from other LHP sources (Lucifer and Satan aren’t even main deities) but they claim to be a continuous ancient Germanic dark pagan cult that survived Christianization (obviously bullshit). Their worldview is that Europe (Aryan) has been parasitized by what they call a “Magian” entity / spirituality (Zoroastrianism, Judaism, Islam, and Christianity) and a time is coming where the Magian power will be overthrown and a new god emperor whom they call “Vindex” shall conquer Europe, eliminate non-whites from earth, and with technology transform us into gods as we colonize the planets and create new life on new planets.

Most are spergy school shooter types. The types that weren’t bullied enough. Having gone through some of their materials, they have no problem with human sacrifice and their black masses include everyone swallowing semen dipped Eucharists.

Anything beneficial in their material you can get elsewhere (I read at one point that they encourage their initiates to survive in the woods for two weeks or something like that).

There’s nothing dominant about them. They are all outcasted losers who have impotent power fantasies.

My work with Lucifer and Lilith have substantively transformed me for the better. Ignore those spergy faggots.

All right, interesting. Thanks for this information.
I haven't read much about them before, but I recall reading they had some similarities to JoS and that they are described as ultra elitists. Yeah they seem weird, being into pedophilia and shit. The Joy of Satan seems to be the only True Satanism out there.

 

[tabby]

Thank you for the well wishes.

I had no idea food could be used in love spells, though since I've used food in energy healing, I guess I should've connected those dots.

I'm wondering if this relates... Once I tried beef heart, and as I was preparing it for dinner I felt emotions in my head, impressions of its life right before it had been slaughtered. Contentment, confusion in the moments leading to its death, then a fraction of a second of fear when the animal knew it was about to die just before it was killed. It was the first time I'd had that happen, and I felt compelled to make a prayer for the life I'd hoped it had and the sustenance it was now giving me. As I was eating it, I could taste those emotions in the meat.

I don't usually have organ meat, it's a rare treat, but the experience makes me wonder. Compared to muscle meat, the organs seem to have a much more potent energy effect. I'm not really sure how to analyse it.

It is possible, especially if this animal was grown by a bad farmer/production and bought as so. There are imprints in the organs, such as fear staying in a specific organ and so on. I do believe that is so.

This should also be known, animals butchered and killed wrong and horribly, will have toxins and imprints that make the meat taste horribly. While a peaceful death will have the meat very good.

Animals who are happy, taste good. Eggs from normal farms or people who hold chickens are extraordinary tasty, while from big production farms where the chicken has literally 2 cm of space, tastes like crap.

...
If someone would watch how these cows and animals are killed, would also understand the need of buying from small time businesses, farmers and people who deal with this on a local level and not big industries who torture these animals.

I do hope to buy fresher and nicer produce in the coming future (spells are working well on that, thank the Gods). I don't get to have the good stuff often to compare directly, at least on the meat side of things. But vegetables are the same way as you've described.

You're absolutely right about the farming.

You have extensive empathy ability. While you might experience these things, others have no idea of what you talk about. You must know so you do not get too sensitive to what is damaging to you, such as subjects of death and suffering. Do try to be selective of your attention with this.

*nods* I'll refrain from talking too much about it.

I believe Blitz had warned me about it some time ago. I think he suggested it again under this thread (I'm about to go read it). Using earth element to be more grounded with the ability. Breathing it in makes me feel safe and grounded, but I'm not sure how well it's doing against this.

I've tried training with controlling my senses, but the sensitivity is increasing to the point someone will talk about their leg being shot and I will feel pain in my own leg in the same place they're talking about. I mental hop with people in my environment and feel what they feel without meaning to. If I detach, it's like the empathy just stores whatever I'm trying to detach from in the moment. That's not normal is it?

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

Thank you for the well wishes.

I had no idea food could be used in love spells, though since I've used food in energy healing, I guess I should've connected those dots.

I'm wondering if this relates... Once I tried beef heart, and as I was preparing it for dinner I felt emotions in my head, impressions of its life right before it had been slaughtered. Contentment, confusion in the moments leading to its death, then a fraction of a second of fear when the animal knew it was about to die just before it was killed. It was the first time I'd had that happen, and I felt compelled to make a prayer for the life I'd hoped it had and the sustenance it was now giving me. As I was eating it, I could taste those emotions in the meat.

I don't usually have organ meat, it's a rare treat, but the experience makes me wonder. Compared to muscle meat, the organs seem to have a much more potent energy effect. I'm not really sure how to analyse it.

It is possible, especially if this animal was grown by a bad farmer/production and bought as so. There are imprints in the organs, such as fear staying in a specific organ and so on. I do believe that is so.

This should also be known, animals butchered and killed wrong and horribly, will have toxins and imprints that make the meat taste horribly. While a peaceful death will have the meat very good.

Animals who are happy, taste good. Eggs from normal farms or people who hold chickens are extraordinary tasty, while from big production farms where the chicken has literally 2 cm of space, tastes like crap.

...
If someone would watch how these cows and animals are killed, would also understand the need of buying from small time businesses, farmers and people who deal with this on a local level and not big industries who torture these animals.

I do hope to buy fresher and nicer produce in the coming future (spells are working well on that, thank the Gods). I don't get to have the good stuff often to compare directly, at least on the meat side of things. But vegetables are the same way as you've described.

You're absolutely right about the farming.

You have extensive empathy ability. While you might experience these things, others have no idea of what you talk about. You must know so you do not get too sensitive to what is damaging to you, such as subjects of death and suffering. Do try to be selective of your attention with this.

*nods* I'll refrain from talking too much about it.

I believe Blitz had warned me about it some time ago. I think he suggested it again under this thread (I'm about to go read it). Using earth element to be more grounded with the ability. Breathing it in makes me feel safe and grounded, but I'm not sure how well it's doing against this.

I've tried training with controlling my senses, but the sensitivity is increasing to the point someone will talk about their leg being shot and I will feel pain in my own leg in the same place they're talking about. I mental hop with people in my environment and feel what they feel without meaning to. If I detach, it's like the empathy just stores whatever I'm trying to detach from in the moment. That's not normal is it?

When you do the detaching try to focus as much on yourself as you can. Thatd help make it a little easier to get rid of what doesnt belong there.

Also send you an email

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

You have extensive empathy ability. While you might experience these things, others have no idea of what you talk about. You must know so you do not get too sensitive to what is damaging to you, such as subjects of death and suffering. Do try to be selective of your attention with this.

*nods* I'll refrain from talking too much about it.

I believe Blitz had warned me about it some time ago. I think he suggested it again under this thread (I'm about to go read it). Using earth element to be more grounded with the ability. Breathing it in makes me feel safe and grounded, but I'm not sure how well it's doing against this.

I've tried training with controlling my senses, but the sensitivity is increasing to the point someone will talk about their leg being shot and I will feel pain in my own leg in the same place they're talking about. I mental hop with people in my environment and feel what they feel without meaning to. If I detach, it's like the empathy just stores whatever I'm trying to detach from in the moment. That's not normal is it?

If this sensitivity is a big problem, then you should address it more directly. Earth is regulatory, but sometimes we need to treat the issue itself, rather than relying on the broader regulatory powers of Earth. Alternatively, you can use Earth energy or runes to specifically regulate this issue.

Otherwise, use Munka or Uruz in a freeing style working to remove any negative obstacles or karma relevant to your sensitivity, which includes oversensitivity, uncontrolled sensations, allowing your feelings to override the functions of another planetary energy, etc.

The high degree of empathy is good, but not with any of this baggage attached to it. The same applies to people who may have a lot of fire energy, but be overly aggressive, for example.

Most likely, you will want to do both types of solutions, freeing and regulating. Similar to Uruz, this may also help you: https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=405837#p405837

 

[hailourtruegod]

I have been wanting to write something similar for many years now about something very similar to what Tabby just said. Being able to physically feel other's pains.

I just didn't know how to freaking explain it this whole time lol

For me personally I've felt a sharp/cold-like pain around my base chakra area that travels throughout my body when seeing or hearing about a bad injury. Not exactly the same as Tabby but close.

I wouldn't think it's as the same with Tabby where I need more Earth energy when it comes to being over empathetic as it's showing that part at least has to do with severely kidney yin deficiency where I would have mood swings, uncontrollable emotions or explosive anger.

I wouldn't mind experimenting with Earth energy to see what happens.

Hatha yoga I can attest to "chilling me out" but it's obvious it's all not fixed.

Currently doing a free the soul working for 90 days and already have another lined up right after for another area of with trauma. Just want to mention it for relevancy.

I wonder if there is anything else I can add.

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[hailourtruegod]

Great points and I hope you don't beat yourself up for not being with that person as what you said makes total sense why you couldn't keep it going and again, agreed.

I think we all want the best of both worlds, but due to the state of humanity in general this right now isn't always feasible. There are a lot of people with great looks but horrible personalities and vice versa. Most normal and healthy people are turned off by horrible personalities, but still want someone that looks at least pretty decent but they don't have to be a model or something. Besides, due to various preferences in people's charts and certain aspects being subjective as far as what is attractive in body and mind, what one person finds neutral another person will be drawn to. there is a number of conventionally attractive men that I personally find neutral. One might in some lucky chance attract a partner with the best of both especially if they have this to give in return as well.

As far as being able to be open enough to see one's potential and experience it in the present moment, this is what I wished with someone I had mentioned here before. I found him very physically unattractive but other things about him told me he would be loyal and devoted to the extreme and I was very drawn to this and liked him also very much as a person.(although he had other psychological damages that told me the nature of my venus would make me make repeat mistakes which also played a factor) When I tried to mention before that I tried to bypass that I could not help finding him ugly unsuccessfully it made me sad...because I know that every Gentile has this potential in them in body and mind that show their future evolution, their path towards perfection. I tried seeing his, envisioning it, wanting to experience it, just as one of the Gods would do with one of us, or also a Demon partner, and I couldn't. It felt like I was going to go into illusions and love an idea of him and not for who he was. I told myself I was trying to experience feelings also that were not my own, as I could feel his thoughts and energy very strongly, even when he wasn't present in places where I only later found out he dwelled often.

Instead of jumping over steps and fantasizing about what could be, it is at least in the first stages best to work towards bringing things into the present moment that is physically perceivable when it comes to self-improvement and hopes and expectations of others. Everyone should focus on self-improvement in all ways bringing their progress into the perceivable present because as they go they will eventually increase in perception as they advance and see more than just only the present moment, in both body and soul. Before you know it at some point, all and actual potential will be for the average naked eye to see and perceive, like back in ancient times of humanity's excellence, when excelling in all things was mainstream and the norm. This is my hope. And this will not be brought to fruition by mere fantasy alone.

 

[tabby]

When you do the detaching try to focus as much on yourself as you can. Thatd help make it a little easier to get rid of what doesnt belong there.

Also send you an email

So, is it like when you do yoga and you focus on your body and the peace feeling? Or do you mean focus on yourself as in taking care of oneself?

Yes I got your email, I'll respond to you there soon, Lunar

 

[tabby]

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You have extensive empathy ability. While you might experience these things, others have no idea of what you talk about. You must know so you do not get too sensitive to what is damaging to you, such as subjects of death and suffering. Do try to be selective of your attention with this.

*nods* I'll refrain from talking too much about it.

I believe Blitz had warned me about it some time ago. I think he suggested it again under this thread (I'm about to go read it). Using earth element to be more grounded with the ability. Breathing it in makes me feel safe and grounded, but I'm not sure how well it's doing against this.

I've tried training with controlling my senses, but the sensitivity is increasing to the point someone will talk about their leg being shot and I will feel pain in my own leg in the same place they're talking about. I mental hop with people in my environment and feel what they feel without meaning to. If I detach, it's like the empathy just stores whatever I'm trying to detach from in the moment. That's not normal is it?

If this sensitivity is a big problem, then you should address it more directly. Earth is regulatory, but sometimes we need to treat the issue itself, rather than relying on the broader regulatory powers of Earth. Alternatively, you can use Earth energy or runes to specifically regulate this issue.

Otherwise, use Munka or Uruz in a freeing style working to remove any negative obstacles or karma relevant to your sensitivity, which includes oversensitivity, uncontrolled sensations, allowing your feelings to override the functions of another planetary energy, etc.

The high degree of empathy is good, but not with any of this baggage attached to it. The same applies to people who may have a lot of fire energy, but be overly aggressive, for example.

Most likely, you will want to do both types of solutions, freeing and regulating. Similar to Uruz, this may also help you: https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=405837#p405837

That sounds promising. I'm grateful to you Blitz, thank you.

It didn't even cross my mind to use munka and such for this. But I guess I didn't make the connection that the uncontrolled empathy had anything to do with karma and/or obstacles making it go out of whack. I just thought it was because I lacked earth in my chart.

Learning a lot today, I had no idea transits could cause a similar effect.

So to clarify... Since karma can affect this, does that mean if one's water planets are afflicted or being strongly emphasized in a chart, that it can contribute to this kind of situation with the empathy going a bit haywire?

 

[NakedPluto [JG]]

*nods* I'll refrain from talking too much about it.

I believe Blitz had warned me about it some time ago. I think he suggested it again under this thread (I'm about to go read it). Using earth element to be more grounded with the ability. Breathing it in makes me feel safe and grounded, but I'm not sure how well it's doing against this.

I've tried training with controlling my senses, but the sensitivity is increasing to the point someone will talk about their leg being shot and I will feel pain in my own leg in the same place they're talking about. I mental hop with people in my environment and feel what they feel without meaning to. If I detach, it's like the empathy just stores whatever I'm trying to detach from in the moment. That's not normal is it?

A small advice I'd have here is, to exercise a larger perspective everytime, with your focus.

For example, you hear-see, happen to stumble upon the story of someone being shot. You feel the pain, the suffering, the limitation. If this gets out of hand, simply focus on the other part, such as understanding that the shooter is also a gelatin real human as well, no different than the victim, depreciate the authority of the situation. Then understand that the gun is the objective reality of power and sentence, and understand that explosive power, but do it by a detached form from the actual situation.

Understand how can you use this to protect yourself, understand how people are oftentimes stupid, or how some feelings and planetary influences get together for something like this.

Then focus on your actual situation, how your integrity of body is fully complete and safe, you are luminous and healthy.

So the basis would be:

1. Practice reverse depth of the situation, creating a larger picture.

2. Depreciate the authorities involved that are perceived as so by you, understand the equity in this.

3. Extract the knowledge and insight from this.

4. Detach, exit, willingly nullify the situation in yourself.


For suffering as an example, you can exercise gratitude by discrimination. You can protect further yourself and others. By the nature of the spiritual, as you will do protection, as a small example, these things that are negative are now fully protected against, since now you know in a more conscious and pronounced way.

Another advice I will have is to not let yourself stumble upon a passive empathy. Since your are an empath, you need to have all of these experiences as active pursuit. So do practice your empathy to what means: Love, Peace, Happiness, Sentiments, Superb Situations, Gardens, Flowers, Animals, Beautiful People, Beautiful dimensions.

Do willingly induce yourself to beautiful experiences. The idea must be as so: The number of positive empathic experiences must exceed the negative ones or be in a harmonious balance. So you must take control by willingly focusing on what you like and what you want.

Do this on and for the Gods as well.

 

[NakedPluto [JG]]

If I detach, it's like the empathy just stores whatever I'm trying to detach from in the moment. That's not normal is it?

Do not suppress this by actually shoving or ignoring your senses. But by change of perspective and focus, as told.

If you ignore or suppress this in any way directly, this will incubate in other forms within your mental frame and emotions. Can turn to fears and then phobias, to even chronic problems.

This is not something bad, this is something of a great ability. You can reach some beautiful states of being. Not to mention your perception is fully expanding with this.

This needs training in form of doing it, by exercise and trial, not ..not doing it.

Do not fear this, do not also amplify without reason.

Do focus on the positive always. You can bring realities of beauty in your life by this way. Since you grasp it, you enact it, simply.

Caution to have stability and grounding and also not stay in dream lands or incubate delusional tendencies. Neptune is not to be played with.

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

When you do the detaching try to focus as much on yourself as you can. Thatd help make it a little easier to get rid of what doesnt belong there.

Also send you an email

So, is it like when you do yoga and you focus on your body and the peace feeling? Or do you mean focus on yourself as in taking care of oneself?

Yes I got your email, I'll respond to you there soon, Lunar

The yoga thing.

I noticed that when I tried to rid myself of something when focussing on it I was amplifying it and making it harder for me whereas when I focussed more on me and strengthening me and then gently moving more away what I wanted to get rid of, it was much easier to get rid of said thing.
Its just simply more like "where do you place your focus".

 

[tabby]

*nods* I'll refrain from talking too much about it.

I believe Blitz had warned me about it some time ago. I think he suggested it again under this thread (I'm about to go read it). Using earth element to be more grounded with the ability. Breathing it in makes me feel safe and grounded, but I'm not sure how well it's doing against this.

I've tried training with controlling my senses, but the sensitivity is increasing to the point someone will talk about their leg being shot and I will feel pain in my own leg in the same place they're talking about. I mental hop with people in my environment and feel what they feel without meaning to. If I detach, it's like the empathy just stores whatever I'm trying to detach from in the moment. That's not normal is it?

A small advice I'd have here is, to exercise a larger perspective everytime, with your focus.

For example, you hear-see, happen to stumble upon the story of someone being shot. You feel the pain, the suffering, the limitation. If this gets out of hand, simply focus on the other part, such as understanding that the shooter is also a gelatin real human as well, no different than the victim, depreciate the authority of the situation. Then understand that the gun is the objective reality of power and sentence, and understand that explosive power, but do it by a detached form from the actual situation.

Understand how can you use this to protect yourself, understand how people are oftentimes stupid, or how some feelings and planetary influences get together for something like this.

Then focus on your actual situation, how your integrity of body is fully complete and safe, you are luminous and healthy.

So the basis would be:

1. Practice reverse depth of the situation, creating a larger picture.

2. Depreciate the authorities involved that are perceived as so by you, understand the equity in this.

3. Extract the knowledge and insight from this.

4. Detach, exit, willingly nullify the situation in yourself.


For suffering as an example, you can exercise gratitude by discrimination. You can protect further yourself and others. By the nature of the spiritual, as you will do protection, as a small example, these things that are negative are now fully protected against, since now you know in a more conscious and pronounced way.

Another advice I will have is to not let yourself stumble upon a passive empathy. Since your are an empath, you need to have all of these experiences as active pursuit. So do practice your empathy to what means: Love, Peace, Happiness, Sentiments, Superb Situations, Gardens, Flowers, Animals, Beautiful People, Beautiful dimensions.

Do willingly induce yourself to beautiful experiences. The idea must be as so: The number of positive empathic experiences must exceed the negative ones or be in a harmonious balance. So you must take control by willingly focusing on what you like and what you want.

Do this on and for the Gods as well.

IT WORKED!

I've only practiced with what you said twice now, but both times it didn't hurt me.
The first time, when the empathy tried to cause the pain in my body and overwhelm me, I did what you said and instead of feeling the pain, my whole body tensed up really hard and then relaxed afterwards.

Then the second time, I tried it again, the tensing thing didn't happen that time but I felt calm, even though I was recognising the pain, it wasn't hurting me at all. I still felt that it was there, but like it was outside myself rather than my body being the one getting hurt.

Thank you thank you!!

I'll still do what Blitz recommend. And this too, I can make it a daily practice (the empathy happens all the time). I'm so excited right now!

 

[NakedPluto [JG]]

IT WORKED!

I've only practiced with what you said twice now, but both times it didn't hurt me.
The first time, when the empathy tried to cause the pain in my body and overwhelm me, I did what you said and instead of feeling the pain, my whole body tensed up really hard and then relaxed afterwards.

Then the second time, I tried it again, the tensing thing didn't happen that time but I felt calm, even though I was recognising the pain, it wasn't hurting me at all. I still felt that it was there, but like it was outside myself rather than my body being the one getting hurt.

Thank you thank you!!

I'll still do what Blitz recommend. And this too, I can make it a daily practice (the empathy happens all the time). I'm so excited right now!

I'm extremely glad to hear that! Perfect then, in time this will be easier and easier.

 

[Power of Justice [JG]]

I don't usually have organ meat, it's a rare treat, but the experience makes me wonder. Compared to muscle meat, the organs seem to have a much more potent energy effect. I'm not really sure how to analyse it.

Fish and sea food in general is thought to be best for people who can pick up easily on residual emotions and energy in food. Because of their biology they don't feel pain the same way most other animals do, nor do they have the same level of "consciousness" that can leave behind a strong energy signature.

That's only what i've heard though, never had a vision eating meat, but i do stray away from certain meats, as soon as i get close to some of them in the supermarket, i just nope outta there, the energy is repulsive, you just know the animal didnt live well.

 

[tabby]

I don't usually have organ meat, it's a rare treat, but the experience makes me wonder. Compared to muscle meat, the organs seem to have a much more potent energy effect. I'm not really sure how to analyse it.

Fish and sea food in general is thought to be best for people who can pick up easily on residual emotions and energy in food. Because of their biology they don't feel pain the same way most other animals do, nor do they have the same level of "consciousness" that can leave behind a strong energy signature.

That's only what i've heard though, never had a vision eating meat, but i do stray away from certain meats, as soon as i get close to some of them in the supermarket, i just nope outta there, the energy is repulsive, you just know the animal didnt live well.

Oh wow, really? I didn't know this, thanks for telling me! I'll test that out when I can get my hands on some seafood, it's been a long while.

Although... I can't for the life of me stomach lobster or crab. The last time I had it, which was years ago now, I felt awful, the energy was horrible.

 

[Power of Justice [JG]]

I heard it from Yogis in the East, I believe they only get wild fish, the ones raised in captivity and in horrible conditions would naturally feel like that.

 

[Jrvan]

I heard it from Yogis in the East, I believe they only get wild fish, the ones raised in captivity and in horrible conditions would naturally feel like that.

I suspect lobsters have a horrible vibration and energy from being boiled alive. Most of the people I knew who ate lobster regularly were xians, and I'm guessing that could be a vibration match if my suspicion is correct.

 

[existentialcrisis]

I heard it from Yogis in the East, I believe they only get wild fish, the ones raised in captivity and in horrible conditions would naturally feel like that.

I suspect lobsters have a horrible vibration and energy from being boiled alive. Most of the people I knew who ate lobster regularly were xians, and I'm guessing that could be a vibration match if my suspicion is correct.

I don't know about that, but I suspect the fact that they're kept in tanks where they're bound, starved and have no stimulation or natural light whatsoever, while they wither away as they wait to die, would not leave a good energetic impression on them.

I don't get a good impression from grocery store lobster. Or any, really, though I can't say I've had wild lobster. It always made me sad to see the conditions that they're kept in, and the methods for cooking them are disturbing, but maybe it's less traumatic than trying to slaughter them like other animals since they're so tough.

Have you seen the video series on YouTube about Leon the lobster? Basically, somebody bought a lobster from the store out of curiosity that they'd be able to nurse them back to health and keep them as a pet.

 

[General Yeager]

If I detach, it's like the empathy just stores whatever I'm trying to detach from in the moment. That's not normal is it?

Do not suppress this by actually shoving or ignoring your senses. But by change of perspective and focus, as told.

If you ignore or suppress this in any way directly, this will incubate in other forms within your mental frame and emotions. Can turn to fears and then phobias, to even chronic problems.

This is not something bad, this is something of a great ability. You can reach some beautiful states of being. Not to mention your perception is fully expanding with this.

This needs training in form of doing it, by exercise and trial, not ..not doing it.

Do not fear this, do not also amplify without reason.

Do focus on the positive always. You can bring realities of beauty in your life by this way. Since you grasp it, you enact it, simply.

Caution to have stability and grounding and also not stay in dream lands or incubate delusional tendencies. Neptune is not to be played with.

What do you think about Dark Empaths. I don't like the term the psychologists use as it implies negative traits by default.

I can feel others emotions very strongly and read people fairly well. But it doesn't affect my mental and emotional constitution. I don't have to detach as you told the other person here.

I can manipulate them at will with respect to whatever emotions they're experiencing. I learned that the key to manipulation is to instill emotional states in a person so they associate those emotions with the words the person infront is speaking and connect them as their own. Learning to know what emotions they're experiencing is often key to manipulation.

Also Manipulation implies something negative in the common usage. I am using it not necessarily as a negative term but as a way of consciously directing them through my will. Similar to manipulating energy.

 

[Power of Justice [JG]]

I heard it from Yogis in the East, I believe they only get wild fish, the ones raised in captivity and in horrible conditions would naturally feel like that.

I suspect lobsters have a horrible vibration and energy from being boiled alive. Most of the people I knew who ate lobster regularly were xians, and I'm guessing that could be a vibration match if my suspicion is correct.

I've heard of people doing that, how cruel! It takes just a moment to kill them humanely and painlessly, there's no reason to just toss them in a boiling pot to cook alive.

 

[Jrvan]

I heard it from Yogis in the East, I believe they only get wild fish, the ones raised in captivity and in horrible conditions would naturally feel like that.

I suspect lobsters have a horrible vibration and energy from being boiled alive. Most of the people I knew who ate lobster regularly were xians, and I'm guessing that could be a vibration match if my suspicion is correct.

I've heard of people doing that, how cruel! It takes just a moment to kill them humanely and painlessly, there's no reason to just toss them in a boiling pot to cook alive.

I was told the reason is because they release some sort of stench upon being killed normally. So I figured if my two options are to eat lobster boiled alive, or not eat lobster, then I won't eat lobster. I felt disgusting the last time I ate one many years ago.

I don't know about that, but I suspect the fact that they're kept in tanks where they're bound, starved and have no stimulation or natural light whatsoever, while they wither away as they wait to die, would not leave a good energetic impression on them.

I don't get a good impression from grocery store lobster. Or any, really, though I can't say I've had wild lobster. It always made me sad to see the conditions that they're kept in, and the methods for cooking them are disturbing, but maybe it's less traumatic than trying to slaughter them like other animals since they're so tough.

Have you seen the video series on YouTube about Leon the lobster? Basically, somebody bought a lobster from the store out of curiosity that they'd be able to nurse them back to health and keep them as a pet.

I haven't seen Leon the Lobster. Sounds like a really cute story.

Did you know that the size of lobsters has to do with the amount of salt water they've absorbed over time? I think I remember reading that in a book.

 

[NakedPluto [JG]]

What do you think about Dark Empaths. I don't like the term the psychologists use as it implies negative traits by default.

I can feel others emotions very strongly and read people fairly well. But it doesn't affect my mental and emotional constitution. I don't have to detach as you told the other person here.

I can manipulate them at will with respect to whatever emotions they're experiencing. I learned that the key to manipulation is to instill emotional states in a person so they associate those emotions with the words the person infront is speaking and connect them as their own. Learning to know what emotions they're experiencing is often key to manipulation.

Also Manipulation implies something negative in the common usage. I am using it not necessarily as a negative term but as a way of consciously directing them through my will. Similar to manipulating energy.

I think this is a form of communication as well, and can be called an emotional intelligence. This tends to be on the masculine side of empathy, one that projects and instructs and the other one would be one that is feminine and receives.

 

[Wotanwarrior]

I heard it from Yogis in the East, I believe they only get wild fish, the ones raised in captivity and in horrible conditions would naturally feel like that.

I suspect lobsters have a horrible vibration and energy from being boiled alive. Most of the people I knew who ate lobster regularly were xians, and I'm guessing that could be a vibration match if my suspicion is correct.

That is totally disgusting, at least crayfish that have a physiognomy very similar to lobsters can be killed painlessly by removing the vein that carries the oxygen and they have in the tail, leaving them to die of hypoxia before cooking and thus suffer much less than if you throw them alive in boiling water.