I WAS A JEW ALL ALONG I INFILTRATED AND I DECIEVED YOU ALL

[Mastermind]

While I can't attest to what he means by honor he does make a good point. Honor is a very loose term and it means something different to different people, but it is important for one to preserve their own mental image of themselves, or "self esteem".

A person's self esteem is a very important component of the human psyche and a healthy soul. Needlessly insulting, demoralizing and demeaning others with the intent to dismantle their self esteem can actually be quite damning especially for people who allow such thoughts to run rampant and taint their mental health.

...
While I agree that people should seek to stop fighting and de-escalate, I believe that the fighting should stop with the defender giving the last blow, not the attacker.
...
Both parties' honors are on the line. The one that loses is fucked and ostracized from the community, because the other members of the community don't want to get into a fight with the winner(s).
I can sense that jrvan is naive, he's genuinely interested in the truth and the uplifting of the community, which is seen as weakness and thus an opportunity to attack (power play), or it's seen as an attempt to gain power (misunderstanding).

I think it's the latter (misunderstanding) and I'll explain why I think that is the case:
In jrvan's mind, since he's trying to help others, he gives himself the right to be more direct in his approach. As he's not trying to gain anything and he doesn't care if one takes his help or not (he's doing it out of a sense of duty), why tip-toe around a subject? He tries to help, gets attacked, then gets hurt and frustrated. It's like a betrayal to him and a knife in the back. But the frustration doesn't end there and it usually lasts for days, months if not years, which he unconsciously brings into the next exchange, which then leads to misunderstandings and more frustration. The difference this time around is that when he got attacked, he didn't just let it slide. He's not turning the other cheek anymore.

I think that HPHC should get involved and de-escalate the situation without any party suffering loss of reputation and honor because that's what's on the line now.

There are arguments in which "dealing the last blow" is completely impossible. Not because you are wrong but because the opposing party decides to troll the fuck out of you.

I think you're still rather naïve and inexperienced in this area.
Secondly, no one is going to take sides with winners or losers. This isnt kindergarten.
People may not speak out but just like in real life, you have people that will agree or disagree with you or those who are just "keeping up appearances".

People here are individuals and probably more opinionated and stronger than the average person. Sometimes this leads to clashes. But usually not so much of the "arrogant prick" kind of..

I can sense some frustration on your part but I invite you to not vent your frustrations on me. Such a speech is completely unbecoming of a woman.
You need to understand that it's gross for a woman to pick a fight with a man. The man can't win. If he beats her, it's not an honorable win because she's weaker. If she beats him, it's shameful because he got beaten by someone weaker.

 

[ogika666]

Damn, I really thought I had no life... then I took a look at you

 

[Hellknight]

Keep this up and you won't see my soul coming to collect yours alien trash this is a stern warning to you and others like you here I'll be watching believe that the last laugh shall be mine best believe it grey scaled cunt just because we don't flex what we're capable of doesn't mean we can't do it comprende puerta WATCH out.
Yours truly
666 Prince

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

You are part of the JDS mafia that’s why you were mentioned.

You really think you're pulling some shit like anybody is going to take your bait and escalate arguments needlessly.

Most of your activity consists of buzzing into argument threads posting bait hoping it will blow over even further. You're not fooling anyone lol

You're one of the most transparent and obvious trolls to ever come into the group.

I personally believe this person is „GG Alin“.

I was thinking the exact same thing recently.

 

[DezFranky]

It doesn't make sense to me. If he is a jew with the purpose of infiltrating, why would he expose himself all of a sudden?
What if he was forced to write that by some uniformed thugs?

RTR effects or else why he tell us for free?

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

And also people need to settle out their differences, the grunge's they have had with each other need to come out, like I said it is healthy if they brought it out and addressed it on the table. As everybody here is different and may not agree on some things which is fine.
It is better you leave them alone to vent out and and address any issues and release any tension, that is the only way they can get past it, not acting like a holier than thou who want everyone to just keep quiet and get along.

Once again the words are taken as holier than thou responses. That is your perception and that is how you view it. That is fine, but that is not the realistic approach I’m coming from. I don’t think that they should be getting along. What I’ve said plenty of times so far, is be tactful of your response. We set an example. If newcomers see us bickering like idiots because of feelings that will come and go, how will that set the example and respect we have for ourselves and the Gods. We will be seen as any other group.

I don’t think we’ll always get along, but how we go about our responses beforehand even makes things a lot easier with how we take our delivery and vice versa.

I’m not going to waste anymore time for this topic as it’s showing who is being tactful and who is just an antagonistic fool without looking at the bigger picture. I believe Blitzkrieg and VoiceofEnki can take care of this.

Hail Satan

You speak very well brother. I am glad to have people like you on the forum with us, setting great examples for all members to follow.

It would do well for a lot of people to read your posts and learn from them.

I myself learn from you as well.

Thank you for setting a great example of honorable and wise conduct. Even if you personally don't consider it much, allow others to affirm it for you.

For someone with a mind like yourself, how far you go on this path is limited only by the distance you wish to go.

Hail Satan!

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

And also people need to settle out their differences, the grunge's they have had with each other need to come out, like I said it is healthy if they brought it out and addressed it on the table. As everybody here is different and may not agree on some things which is fine.
It is better you leave them alone to vent out and and address any issues and release any tension, that is the only way they can get past it, not acting like a holier than thou who want everyone to just keep quiet and get along.

Once again the words are taken as holier than thou responses. That is your perception and that is how you view it. That is fine, but that is not the realistic approach I’m coming from. I don’t think that they should be getting along. What I’ve said plenty of times so far, is be tactful of your response. We set an example. If newcomers see us bickering like idiots because of feelings that will come and go, how will that set the example and respect we have for ourselves and the Gods. We will be seen as any other group.

I don’t think we’ll always get along, but how we go about our responses beforehand even makes things a lot easier with how we take our delivery and vice versa.

I’m not going to waste anymore time for this topic as it’s showing who is being tactful and who is just an antagonistic fool without looking at the bigger picture. I believe Blitzkrieg and VoiceofEnki can take care of this.

Hail Satan

You speak very well brother. I am glad to have people like you on the forum with us, setting great examples for all members to follow.

It would do well for a lot of people to read your posts and learn from them.

I myself learn from you as well.

Thank you for setting a great example of honorable and wise conduct. Even if you personally don't consider it much, allow others to affirm it for you.

For someone with a mind like yourself, how far you go on this path is limited only by the distance you wish to go.

Hail Satan!

 

[Aquarius]

You really think you're pulling some shit like anybody is going to take your bait and escalate arguments needlessly.

Most of your activity consists of buzzing into argument threads posting bait hoping it will blow over even further. You're not fooling anyone lol

You're one of the most transparent and obvious trolls to ever come into the group.

I personally believe this person is „GG Alin“.

I was thinking the exact same thing recently.

I don't. Totally different way of doing.

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

...
While I agree that people should seek to stop fighting and de-escalate, I believe that the fighting should stop with the defender giving the last blow, not the attacker.
...
Both parties' honors are on the line. The one that loses is fucked and ostracized from the community, because the other members of the community don't want to get into a fight with the winner(s).
I can sense that jrvan is naive, he's genuinely interested in the truth and the uplifting of the community, which is seen as weakness and thus an opportunity to attack (power play), or it's seen as an attempt to gain power (misunderstanding).

I think it's the latter (misunderstanding) and I'll explain why I think that is the case:
In jrvan's mind, since he's trying to help others, he gives himself the right to be more direct in his approach. As he's not trying to gain anything and he doesn't care if one takes his help or not (he's doing it out of a sense of duty), why tip-toe around a subject? He tries to help, gets attacked, then gets hurt and frustrated. It's like a betrayal to him and a knife in the back. But the frustration doesn't end there and it usually lasts for days, months if not years, which he unconsciously brings into the next exchange, which then leads to misunderstandings and more frustration. The difference this time around is that when he got attacked, he didn't just let it slide. He's not turning the other cheek anymore.

I think that HPHC should get involved and de-escalate the situation without any party suffering loss of reputation and honor because that's what's on the line now.

There are arguments in which "dealing the last blow" is completely impossible. Not because you are wrong but because the opposing party decides to troll the fuck out of you.

I think you're still rather naïve and inexperienced in this area.
Secondly, no one is going to take sides with winners or losers. This isnt kindergarten.
People may not speak out but just like in real life, you have people that will agree or disagree with you or those who are just "keeping up appearances".

People here are individuals and probably more opinionated and stronger than the average person. Sometimes this leads to clashes. But usually not so much of the "arrogant prick" kind of..

I can sense some frustration on your part but I invite you to not vent your frustrations on me. Such a speech is completely unbecoming of a woman.
You need to understand that it's gross for a woman to pick a fight with a man. The man can't win. If he beats her, it's not an honorable win because she's weaker. If she beats him, it's shameful because he got beaten by someone weaker.

If you hadnt noticed yet, I don't care much about stereotypes.

Young children don't care as much if one is a boy or if one is a girl when playing. They just play. Its more the playing style and interests that one child plays more with x and another with y.
Not "first and foremost" a gender related issue.

 

[Mastermind]

There are arguments in which "dealing the last blow" is completely impossible. Not because you are wrong but because the opposing party decides to troll the fuck out of you.

I think you're still rather naïve and inexperienced in this area.
Secondly, no one is going to take sides with winners or losers. This isnt kindergarten.
People may not speak out but just like in real life, you have people that will agree or disagree with you or those who are just "keeping up appearances".

People here are individuals and probably more opinionated and stronger than the average person. Sometimes this leads to clashes. But usually not so much of the "arrogant prick" kind of..

I can sense some frustration on your part but I invite you to not vent your frustrations on me. Such a speech is completely unbecoming of a woman.
You need to understand that it's gross for a woman to pick a fight with a man. The man can't win. If he beats her, it's not an honorable win because she's weaker. If she beats him, it's shameful because he got beaten by someone weaker.

If you hadnt noticed yet, I don't care much about stereotypes.

Young children don't care as much if one is a boy or if one is a girl when playing. They just play. Its more the playing style and interests that one child plays more with x and another with y.
Not "first and foremost" a gender related issue.

Look, I'm not your father nor your mother. It's not my job to teach you how to behave or what is the nature of things. Perhaps you can ask other female members, an HP or an HPS.

 

[Jrvan]

But when you say adults acting like children you mean you. Because you are always caught up in most of these drama.

It was Ramier's own words in the first place that I was borrowing, and yes of course I was including myself in that. However, it's become a meme thanks to the crowd that opposed me that "I'm always the center of drama" and "I always start fights." I seldom start them, and I'm only the center of it because they insist on making me the center of it (and I can prove that claim). I would appreciate it if you didn't propagate these memes as I'm very tired of hearing it.

There would have been no need for this edge in your comment towards me if you hadn't mistakenly perceived an edge in mine.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

I can sense some frustration on your part but I invite you to not vent your frustrations on me. Such a speech is completely unbecoming of a woman.
You need to understand that it's gross for a woman to pick a fight with a man. The man can't win. If he beats her, it's not an honorable win because she's weaker. If she beats him, it's shameful because he got beaten by someone weaker.

This makes sense for a physical fight. But if you are talking about an argument with words, then this is very stupid. There is no reason why either a man or a woman is not able to present a correct and logical argument.

If you do mean a physical fight, this is why I strongly believe every woman should have a gun with her that she is able to use well. This removes the size and strength advantage from a man and makes them equal so she is able to be safe.

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

You really think you're pulling some shit like anybody is going to take your bait and escalate arguments needlessly.

Most of your activity consists of buzzing into argument threads posting bait hoping it will blow over even further. You're not fooling anyone lol

You're one of the most transparent and obvious trolls to ever come into the group.

Wah wah wah. Everyone I don’t like is a Jew or troll. This Crybaby mentality of slander against anyone one doesn’t like is too prevalent on ancient forums.

You still just don’t like me because I exposed you as a hypocrite on the psychic vampirism thread. A landlord cannot be robinhood. Nothing will ever change that.

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

Others should likewise be wary of this creature outlaw torn whose only purpose in life is to try to draw out and prolong conflicts between members in this group. He is forever present in any disagreement posting bait and provocation attempting to pit members against each other for his own entertainment. I know I made the point several times that one should be respectful when discussing things but there's no polite way to put it.

You can’t put all of this on me. Like you said I come into existing conflicts and I enjoy throwing tomatoes at whoever I think is in the wrong. Am I really harming anyone by doing that? It’s a lot less harmful than being a landlord that steals from the little man

Outlaw turd doesn't actually have an opinion on anybody, he will simply shift his opinion so long as it is useful to his intention of creating and prolonging conflicts. He was first in line to suck my dick because at one time I was criticizing some offmod members. Then when it becomes apparent I'm not aligned with his agenda shifts to going against me.

If you consider one message “sucking your dick” then you clearly move too fast in relationships. You didn’t even take me to dinner first. I want a nice steak meal at Ruth Chris. Then we can talk about dick sucking…

There is a reason why what was for the most part a civil conversation about behavior within the forums is devolving into more personal and pointless discussion of dead topics and arguments that have been settled long ago. There is also a reason why outkike torn is in every discussion that devolves this way.

Now I’m the scapegoat for all of this when it was started by an actual self admitted Jew infiltrater. You can sense my soul and tell I’m not a Jew pal. Don’t try to vampirise anything from me either because I promise there’s nothing of value for you to take.

 

[Mastermind]

I can sense some frustration on your part but I invite you to not vent your frustrations on me. Such a speech is completely unbecoming of a woman.
You need to understand that it's gross for a woman to pick a fight with a man. The man can't win. If he beats her, it's not an honorable win because she's weaker. If she beats him, it's shameful because he got beaten by someone weaker.

This makes sense for a physical fight. But if you are talking about an argument with words, then this is very stupid. There is no reason why either a man or a woman is not able to present a correct and logical argument.

If you do mean a physical fight, this is why I strongly believe every woman should have a gun with her that she is able to use well. This removes the size and strength advantage from a man and makes them equal so she is able to be safe.

Looks like the women in your environment don't have much class. Does your family have a history of poverty?

 

[Cynthia]

Why would someone write thousands of posts and waste their time? This proves that they are insane...

 

[Ramier108666]

And also people need to settle out their differences, the grunge's they have had with each other need to come out, like I said it is healthy if they brought it out and addressed it on the table. As everybody here is different and may not agree on some things which is fine.
It is better you leave them alone to vent out and and address any issues and release any tension, that is the only way they can get past it, not acting like a holier than thou who want everyone to just keep quiet and get along.

Once again the words are taken as holier than thou responses. That is your perception and that is how you view it. That is fine, but that is not the realistic approach I’m coming from. I don’t think that they should be getting along. What I’ve said plenty of times so far, is be tactful of your response. We set an example. If newcomers see us bickering like idiots because of feelings that will come and go, how will that set the example and respect we have for ourselves and the Gods. We will be seen as any other group.

I don’t think we’ll always get along, but how we go about our responses beforehand even makes things a lot easier with how we take our delivery and vice versa.

I’m not going to waste anymore time for this topic as it’s showing who is being tactful and who is just an antagonistic fool without looking at the bigger picture. I believe Blitzkrieg and VoiceofEnki can take care of this.

Hail Satan

You speak very well brother. I am glad to have people like you on the forum with us, setting great examples for all members to follow.

It would do well for a lot of people to read your posts and learn from them.

I myself learn from you as well.

Thank you for setting a great example of honorable and wise conduct. Even if you personally don't consider it much, allow others to affirm it for you.

For someone with a mind like yourself, how far you go on this path is limited only by the distance you wish to go.

Hail Satan!

I… appreciate your candor brother, however I actually learned they way of being more responsible and respectful with my approach from you, Blitzkrieg, Blackdragon and HPS Shannon. Anything else was shown to me by the gods and I developed a more clearer mindset.

As Khepu constantly would say. “See truly, not the superficial, but the truth of things. When you advance you’ll notice it bit by bit.”

How right he was. You guys are great inspirations for newcomers and I also am truly honored.

 

[Ramier108666]

There are arguments in which "dealing the last blow" is completely impossible. Not because you are wrong but because the opposing party decides to troll the fuck out of you.

I think you're still rather naïve and inexperienced in this area.
Secondly, no one is going to take sides with winners or losers. This isnt kindergarten.
People may not speak out but just like in real life, you have people that will agree or disagree with you or those who are just "keeping up appearances".

People here are individuals and probably more opinionated and stronger than the average person. Sometimes this leads to clashes. But usually not so much of the "arrogant prick" kind of..

I can sense some frustration on your part but I invite you to not vent your frustrations on me. Such a speech is completely unbecoming of a woman.
You need to understand that it's gross for a woman to pick a fight with a man. The man can't win. If he beats her, it's not an honorable win because she's weaker. If she beats him, it's shameful because he got beaten by someone weaker.

If you hadnt noticed yet, I don't care much about stereotypes.

Young children don't care as much if one is a boy or if one is a girl when playing. They just play. Its more the playing style and interests that one child plays more with x and another with y.
Not "first and foremost" a gender related issue.

It would be best to ignore when a fool opens his mouth. If you listen, who is the fool? You or him?

 

[Mastermind]

I can sense some frustration on your part but I invite you to not vent your frustrations on me. Such a speech is completely unbecoming of a woman.
You need to understand that it's gross for a woman to pick a fight with a man. The man can't win. If he beats her, it's not an honorable win because she's weaker. If she beats him, it's shameful because he got beaten by someone weaker.

If you hadnt noticed yet, I don't care much about stereotypes.

Young children don't care as much if one is a boy or if one is a girl when playing. They just play. Its more the playing style and interests that one child plays more with x and another with y.
Not "first and foremost" a gender related issue.

It would be best to ignore when a fool opens his mouth. If you listen, who is the fool? You or him?

You seem very hurt and frustrated. Was it the comment about holier-than-thou? Is there something I can say to make you feel better?

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

I can sense some frustration on your part but I invite you to not vent your frustrations on me. Such a speech is completely unbecoming of a woman.
You need to understand that it's gross for a woman to pick a fight with a man. The man can't win. If he beats her, it's not an honorable win because she's weaker. If she beats him, it's shameful because he got beaten by someone weaker.

If you hadnt noticed yet, I don't care much about stereotypes.

Young children don't care as much if one is a boy or if one is a girl when playing. They just play. Its more the playing style and interests that one child plays more with x and another with y.
Not "first and foremost" a gender related issue.

It would be best to ignore when a fool opens his mouth. If you listen, who is the fool? You or him?

Would you let fools run rampant on this forum, a place of learning? I won't waste unnecessary time and energy on something.

 

[Jack]

...
While I agree that people should seek to stop fighting and de-escalate, I believe that the fighting should stop with the defender giving the last blow, not the attacker.
...
Both parties' honors are on the line. The one that loses is fucked and ostracized from the community, because the other members of the community don't want to get into a fight with the winner(s).
I can sense that jrvan is naive, he's genuinely interested in the truth and the uplifting of the community, which is seen as weakness and thus an opportunity to attack (power play), or it's seen as an attempt to gain power (misunderstanding).

I think it's the latter (misunderstanding) and I'll explain why I think that is the case:
In jrvan's mind, since he's trying to help others, he gives himself the right to be more direct in his approach. As he's not trying to gain anything and he doesn't care if one takes his help or not (he's doing it out of a sense of duty), why tip-toe around a subject? He tries to help, gets attacked, then gets hurt and frustrated. It's like a betrayal to him and a knife in the back. But the frustration doesn't end there and it usually lasts for days, months if not years, which he unconsciously brings into the next exchange, which then leads to misunderstandings and more frustration. The difference this time around is that when he got attacked, he didn't just let it slide. He's not turning the other cheek anymore.

I think that HPHC should get involved and de-escalate the situation without any party suffering loss of reputation and honor because that's what's on the line now.

There are arguments in which "dealing the last blow" is completely impossible. Not because you are wrong but because the opposing party decides to troll the fuck out of you.

I think you're still rather naïve and inexperienced in this area.
Secondly, no one is going to take sides with winners or losers. This isnt kindergarten.
People may not speak out but just like in real life, you have people that will agree or disagree with you or those who are just "keeping up appearances".

People here are individuals and probably more opinionated and stronger than the average person. Sometimes this leads to clashes. But usually not so much of the "arrogant prick" kind of..

I can sense some frustration on your part but I invite you to not vent your frustrations on me. Such a speech is completely unbecoming of a woman.
You need to understand that it's gross for a woman to pick a fight with a man. The man can't win. If he beats her, it's not an honorable win because she's weaker. If she beats him, it's shameful because he got beaten by someone weaker.

AgainstAllAuthority is alpha reminding every woman that challenges his Authority that he'd bash their skulls in a physical fight.

From now on whenever my gf refuses to listen to me, I'll just threaten her with violence and shame her for being crass . The go to line I learnt from him is "It's unbecoming of a woman to challenge a man. Don't forget that I'd beat the shit out of you. That'd be really shameful for me because you're inherently weak ,BITCH."

Women must always listen to men and never talk back at all times. Even if it's a random woman.

I'm going to use this technique on my coworkers as well. Thankfully AgainstAllAuthority keeps giving us Redpilled wisdom.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

I would really recommend jrvan and Ol have a private 1on1 conversation away from this noise and all these external intentions. You guys must be surprised at how differently that will go.

I would be comfortable with having a private conversation with you, but I don't have enough trust built up with Ol Argedco to feel safe having one with him. I would be too guarded while worrying about him trying to use the conversation against me. I trusted him when I first came here, and I even looked up to him and a few others. But they've ruined that trust and respect and their relationships to me. They treated me with suspicion like I was an enemy from early on, and they still look at me that way even if they won't admit it. It's kind of crushing sometimes, but I persist here out of love for my Gods because I know they want me here for whatever reasons that I can't understand personally. I do my best, and my best isn't ever going to be good enough to satisfy certain regulars here that I'm not an enemy. It is what it is. If at any time the Gods no longer wanted me here then I would go, but I decided a while ago after trying to leave once that I'm not going to leave for anyone other than the Gods whom I love so much. I do what I do for them. Every time I log onto the forums with something to say, I look at the image of Father Satan with the pentagram at the top of the page, and I reflect on whether I'm doing the right things and doing right by him, and if my actions are against him or not. I don't want to let him down. I want to preserve his domain here, and I want to continue to try my best to help make it better alongside everyone else. It would be nice if people stopped doubting my intentions so much, but I don't expect this to change any time soon. People are how they are. It's all been said before at this point so I'll try to change my reactions.

I think this is a situation that mainly needs for everyone to cool down. There is a limit to the usefulness of aggressive behavior during these sorts of debates. Even then, one can create victorious outcomes through methods other than aggression.

Personally, I think it would be silly to consider you an enemy after what has happened because although some destructive behaviors came out, such passion came out of good places. I believe time will mend most wounds here, especially if you continue to keep a positive mindset. And, if others are willing to relax toward you, you should do the same for them. This is not a situation where only one person takes corrective actions.

Whatever happened in the past should not be seen as some sort of damning event. Like always, we learn, grow, and advance. There will always be disagreements, but we have to learn to deal with these appropriately, rather than fighting so much that we have left the environment as a disaster.

 

[Dahaarkan]

I would really recommend jrvan and Ol have a private 1on1 conversation away from this noise and all these external intentions. You guys must be surprised at how differently that will go.

I would be comfortable with having a private conversation with you, but I don't have enough trust built up with Ol Argedco to feel safe having one with him. I would be too guarded while worrying about him trying to use the conversation against me. I trusted him when I first came here, and I even looked up to him and a few others. But they've ruined that trust and respect and their relationships to me. They treated me with suspicion like I was an enemy from early on, and they still look at me that way even if they won't admit it. It's kind of crushing sometimes, but I persist here out of love for my Gods because I know they want me here for whatever reasons that I can't understand personally. I do my best, and my best isn't ever going to be good enough to satisfy certain regulars here that I'm not an enemy. It is what it is. If at any time the Gods no longer wanted me here then I would go, but I decided a while ago after trying to leave once that I'm not going to leave for anyone other than the Gods whom I love so much. I do what I do for them. Every time I log onto the forums with something to say, I look at the image of Father Satan with the pentagram at the top of the page, and I reflect on whether I'm doing the right things and doing right by him, and if my actions are against him or not. I don't want to let him down. I want to preserve his domain here, and I want to continue to try my best to help make it better alongside everyone else. It would be nice if people stopped doubting my intentions so much, but I don't expect this to change any time soon. People are how they are. It's all been said before at this point so I'll try to change my reactions.

I know how you feel. I think you guys are in a cycle of mutual distrust and animosity, you expect malice from each other at every turn. It's to a point where any misunderstanding is perceived as hostility.

Trust is a weird thing, it's only really going to form again when you are vulnerable in each other's presence. I think Ol and yourself both have the same goal that is to preserve and improve the environment and quality of communications within the group. And you've both started to see each other as an obstacle to this. Which is counterproductive considering you both have similar goals here you'd do better working together for this goal rather than in opposition.


This is why the private 1on1 works. In this scenario there are no readers to impress, convince or "trick" into taking the side of one or the other. As there are no minds to convince neither of you will have a reason to be dishonest, manipulative or twisting words, as you both accuse each other of doing.

There is no reason for either of you to try to be dishonest or twist each other's words in a 1on1 conversation. And this doesn't apply just to you and Ol but I think everybody who has prolonged hatreds and feuds with members would benefit greatly from an honest conversation expressing how they feel to each other. Away from all the countless voices and opinions being thrown left and right, and the imaginary pressure of speaking in a public setting.


You literally gain nothing from being dishonest in a private conversation like this. So you'd have no incentive to be dishonest, and will simply express how you truly feel. And in the event that what is said in a private and honest setting, is taken into a public light and used against the person, this is more damning to the person who does this than the person they are attempting to destroy.

Because they are quite literally announcing publicly that they cannot be trusted, and that any attempts at being truthful, honest and fair to this person are simply weaponized to fuel personal feuds in perpetuity.

 

[Dahaarkan]

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I would really recommend jrvan and Ol have a private 1on1 conversation away from this noise and all these external intentions. You guys must be surprised at how differently that will go.

I would be comfortable with having a private conversation with you, but I don't have enough trust built up with Ol Argedco to feel safe having one with him. I would be too guarded while worrying about him trying to use the conversation against me. I trusted him when I first came here, and I even looked up to him and a few others. But they've ruined that trust and respect and their relationships to me. They treated me with suspicion like I was an enemy from early on, and they still look at me that way even if they won't admit it. It's kind of crushing sometimes, but I persist here out of love for my Gods because I know they want me here for whatever reasons that I can't understand personally. I do my best, and my best isn't ever going to be good enough to satisfy certain regulars here that I'm not an enemy. It is what it is. If at any time the Gods no longer wanted me here then I would go, but I decided a while ago after trying to leave once that I'm not going to leave for anyone other than the Gods whom I love so much. I do what I do for them. Every time I log onto the forums with something to say, I look at the image of Father Satan with the pentagram at the top of the page, and I reflect on whether I'm doing the right things and doing right by him, and if my actions are against him or not. I don't want to let him down. I want to preserve his domain here, and I want to continue to try my best to help make it better alongside everyone else. It would be nice if people stopped doubting my intentions so much, but I don't expect this to change any time soon. People are how they are. It's all been said before at this point so I'll try to change my reactions.

I think this is a situation that mainly needs for everyone to cool down. There is a limit to the usefulness of aggressive behavior during these sorts of debates. Even then, one can create victorious outcomes through methods other than aggression.

Personally, I think it would be silly to consider you an enemy after what has happened because although some destructive behaviors came out, such passion came out of good places. I believe time will mend most wounds here, especially if you continue to keep a positive mindset. And, if others are willing to relax toward you, you should do the same for them. This is not a situation where only one person takes corrective actions.

Whatever happened in the past should not be seen as some sort of damning event. Like always, we learn, grow, and advance. There will always be disagreements, but we have to learn to deal with these appropriately, rather than fighting so much that we have left the environment as a disaster.

I think this has been a very productive conversation actually. Which is ironic for the kike who started the thread only to waste time.

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

I… appreciate your candor brother, however I actually learned they way of being more responsible and respectful with my approach from you, Blitzkrieg, Blackdragon and HPS Shannon. Anything else was shown to me by the gods and I developed a more clearer mindset.

As Khepu constantly would say. “See truly, not the superficial, but the truth of things. When you advance you’ll notice it bit by bit.”

How right he was. You guys are great inspirations for newcomers and I also am truly honored.

This is what I love the most about our forum and the SS community as a whole.

We learn from each other, inspire each other, and grow as a whole, as an SS family.

It's the purest manifestation of this places intended purpose, as willed by Satan and the Gods. To let us all advance together, and inspire each other.

When I read your posts here I really wanted to express these feelings and thoughts. It made me very happy to see it.

Hail Satan!

 

[Satanika]

Not surprising as that is what Jews do best.

 

[Ramier108666]

If you hadnt noticed yet, I don't care much about stereotypes.

Young children don't care as much if one is a boy or if one is a girl when playing. They just play. Its more the playing style and interests that one child plays more with x and another with y.
Not "first and foremost" a gender related issue.

It would be best to ignore when a fool opens his mouth. If you listen, who is the fool? You or him?

Would you let fools run rampant on this forum, a place of learning? I won't waste unnecessary time and energy on something.

Meaning the troll is going to troll. This is evident.

No I wouldn’t let fools run rampant, this responses he is saying are of trolling mindset. I merely say why waste time with a person who evidently has no meaning or want to stop trolling.

 

[Ramier108666]

If you hadnt noticed yet, I don't care much about stereotypes.

Young children don't care as much if one is a boy or if one is a girl when playing. They just play. Its more the playing style and interests that one child plays more with x and another with y.
Not "first and foremost" a gender related issue.

It would be best to ignore when a fool opens his mouth. If you listen, who is the fool? You or him?

You seem very hurt and frustrated. Was it the comment about holier-than-thou? Is there something I can say to make you feel better?

You are incorrect. I took no offense because your accusation or rather your approach to insult when you could do something that would be better suited for deescalation. That is of course your choice and I have no need to waste time if one is just going to continue the idiocy.

 

[Mastermind]

There are arguments in which "dealing the last blow" is completely impossible. Not because you are wrong but because the opposing party decides to troll the fuck out of you.

I think you're still rather naïve and inexperienced in this area.
Secondly, no one is going to take sides with winners or losers. This isnt kindergarten.
People may not speak out but just like in real life, you have people that will agree or disagree with you or those who are just "keeping up appearances".

People here are individuals and probably more opinionated and stronger than the average person. Sometimes this leads to clashes. But usually not so much of the "arrogant prick" kind of..

I can sense some frustration on your part but I invite you to not vent your frustrations on me. Such a speech is completely unbecoming of a woman.
You need to understand that it's gross for a woman to pick a fight with a man. The man can't win. If he beats her, it's not an honorable win because she's weaker. If she beats him, it's shameful because he got beaten by someone weaker.

AgainstAllAuthority is alpha reminding every woman that challenges his Authority that he'd bash their skulls in a physical fight.

From now on whenever my gf refuses to listen to me, I'll just threaten her with violence and shame her for being crass . The go to line I learnt from him is "It's unbecoming of a woman to challenge a man. Don't forget that I'd beat the shit out of you. That'd be really shameful for me because you're inherently weak ,BITCH."

Women must always listen to men and never talk back at all times. Even if it's a random woman.

I'm going to use this technique on my coworkers as well. Thankfully AgainstAllAuthority keeps giving us Redpilled wisdom.

By the way you talk, it looks like people are violent in your environment which makes you see everything through a violent lens. Does you family have a history of poverty or abuse towards you?

 

[Mastermind]

It would be best to ignore when a fool opens his mouth. If you listen, who is the fool? You or him?

You seem very hurt and frustrated. Was it the comment about holier-than-thou? Is there something I can say to make you feel better?

You are incorrect. I took no offense because your accusation or rather your approach to insult when you could do something that would be better suited for deescalation. That is of course your choice and I have no need to waste time if one is just going to continue the idiocy.

There's no denying that you are quite frustrated. I can try to help you if you want but otherwise fuck off. I'm not your punching bag nor your psychologist.

 

[Crystallized Mushroom]

...
While I agree that people should seek to stop fighting and de-escalate, I believe that the fighting should stop with the defender giving the last blow, not the attacker.
...
Both parties' honors are on the line. The one that loses is fucked and ostracized from the community, because the other members of the community don't want to get into a fight with the winner(s).
I can sense that jrvan is naive, he's genuinely interested in the truth and the uplifting of the community, which is seen as weakness and thus an opportunity to attack (power play), or it's seen as an attempt to gain power (misunderstanding).

I think it's the latter (misunderstanding) and I'll explain why I think that is the case:
In jrvan's mind, since he's trying to help others, he gives himself the right to be more direct in his approach. As he's not trying to gain anything and he doesn't care if one takes his help or not (he's doing it out of a sense of duty), why tip-toe around a subject? He tries to help, gets attacked, then gets hurt and frustrated. It's like a betrayal to him and a knife in the back. But the frustration doesn't end there and it usually lasts for days, months if not years, which he unconsciously brings into the next exchange, which then leads to misunderstandings and more frustration. The difference this time around is that when he got attacked, he didn't just let it slide. He's not turning the other cheek anymore.

I think that HPHC should get involved and de-escalate the situation without any party suffering loss of reputation and honor because that's what's on the line now.

There are arguments in which "dealing the last blow" is completely impossible. Not because you are wrong but because the opposing party decides to troll the fuck out of you.

I think you're still rather naïve and inexperienced in this area.
Secondly, no one is going to take sides with winners or losers. This isnt kindergarten.
People may not speak out but just like in real life, you have people that will agree or disagree with you or those who are just "keeping up appearances".

People here are individuals and probably more opinionated and stronger than the average person. Sometimes this leads to clashes. But usually not so much of the "arrogant prick" kind of..

I can sense some frustration on your part but I invite you to not vent your frustrations on me. Such a speech is completely unbecoming of a woman.
You need to understand that it's gross for a woman to pick a fight with a man. The man can't win. If he beats her, it's not an honorable win because she's weaker. If she beats him, it's shameful because he got beaten by someone weaker.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

reminds me of redpill channels and feminist channels etc. also like incel channels and femcels channels
all this Men are ebil debil and Women are ebil debil is so

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek:

people need to grow up :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

There's no denying that you are quite frustrated. I can try to help you if you want but otherwise fuck off. I'm not your punching bag nor your psychologist.

Perhaps don't act like it if you don't wish to be either.

Self reflection is important here.

Do not project your own false perceptions upon other people, in doing so you only a make fool of yourself.

It is what I had been addressing in all the posts I've made on ego, impartial judgement and self reflection.

I believe, even though I had previously misinterpreted the term, if we are to examine what you say here, these posts to Ramier and LunarDance (to an extend) can be considered attempted Gaslighting.

The only purpose of it is a reactionary argument as one sees everywhere on random places on the internet. These lower ego manifestations can easily be avoided.

Hail Satan!

 

[Mastermind]

There are arguments in which "dealing the last blow" is completely impossible. Not because you are wrong but because the opposing party decides to troll the fuck out of you.

I think you're still rather naïve and inexperienced in this area.
Secondly, no one is going to take sides with winners or losers. This isnt kindergarten.
People may not speak out but just like in real life, you have people that will agree or disagree with you or those who are just "keeping up appearances".

People here are individuals and probably more opinionated and stronger than the average person. Sometimes this leads to clashes. But usually not so much of the "arrogant prick" kind of..

I can sense some frustration on your part but I invite you to not vent your frustrations on me. Such a speech is completely unbecoming of a woman.
You need to understand that it's gross for a woman to pick a fight with a man. The man can't win. If he beats her, it's not an honorable win because she's weaker. If she beats him, it's shameful because he got beaten by someone weaker.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

reminds me of redpill channels and feminist channels etc. also like incel channels and femcels channels
all this Men are ebil debil and Women are ebil debil is so

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek:

people need to grow up :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Your need to belittle others is indicative of abuse and trauma. The way to solve your problems is not to try to take others down but to heal yourself. Do you even meditate? When was your last meditation?

 

[Mastermind]

There's no denying that you are quite frustrated. I can try to help you if you want but otherwise fuck off. I'm not your punching bag nor your psychologist.

Perhaps don't act like it if you don't wish to be either.

Self reflection is important here.

Do not project your own false perceptions upon other people, in doing so you only a make fool of yourself.

It is what I had been addressing in all the posts I've made on ego, impartial judgement and self reflection.

I believe, even though I had previously misinterpreted the term, if we are to examine what you say here, these posts to Ramier and LunarDance (to an extend) can be considered attempted Gaslighting.

The only purpose of it is a reactionary argument as one sees everywhere on random places on the internet. These lower ego manifestations can easily be avoided.

Hail Satan!

I can see why you'd think that. It's a thread that's charged with conflict from the very beginning so it's understandable that one would interpret every message as such.
If you copy and paste all of the posts I made in this thread in a separate document and re-read them a week from now you'll see another perspective.

 

[Jack]

I can sense some frustration on your part but I invite you to not vent your frustrations on me. Such a speech is completely unbecoming of a woman.
You need to understand that it's gross for a woman to pick a fight with a man. The man can't win. If he beats her, it's not an honorable win because she's weaker. If she beats him, it's shameful because he got beaten by someone weaker.

AgainstAllAuthority is alpha reminding every woman that challenges his Authority that he'd bash their skulls in a physical fight.

From now on whenever my gf refuses to listen to me, I'll just threaten her with violence and shame her for being crass . The go to line I learnt from him is "It's unbecoming of a woman to challenge a man. Don't forget that I'd beat the shit out of you. That'd be really shameful for me because you're inherently weak ,BITCH."

Women must always listen to men and never talk back at all times. Even if it's a random woman.

I'm going to use this technique on my coworkers as well. Thankfully AgainstAllAuthority keeps giving us Redpilled wisdom.

By the way you talk, it looks like people are violent in your environment which makes you see everything through a violent lens. Does you family have a history of poverty or abuse towards you?

I was being sarcastic lol .

 

[Crystallized Mushroom]

I can sense some frustration on your part but I invite you to not vent your frustrations on me. Such a speech is completely unbecoming of a woman.
You need to understand that it's gross for a woman to pick a fight with a man. The man can't win. If he beats her, it's not an honorable win because she's weaker. If she beats him, it's shameful because he got beaten by someone weaker.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

reminds me of redpill channels and feminist channels etc. also like incel channels and femcels channels
all this Men are ebil debil and Women are ebil debil is so

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek:

people need to grow up :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Your need to belittle others is indicative of abuse and trauma. The way to solve your problems is not to try to take others down but to heal yourself. Do you even meditate? When was your last meditation?

i mean yes i have certain traumas and fears of stuff happening to me mainly from when i was a child even though that was more than a decade ago and i can't really seem to move on unfortunately.

although i lost all trust and respect to basically any authority figure at this point especially since i've been lied to about a lot of stuff and found out in many cultures and how i was raised that certain harmless things are "evil" and "wrong" and worthy of punishment etc. and how i've been suggested to do stuff i never wanted such as have kids and get married and if i have a son i'm "allowed" to circumcise etc. which i've completely refused to do and if i had a son and did that then i would want my son to severely harm me. i basically feel anxiety to having consensual sex and relationships outside religiously approved kosher straight marriage and never understood why people kept telling me that maybe i'll like it when they don't do that themselves. also i have certain anxiety about religion taking over the united States since i live there due to all the stupid shit happening and the people getting fed up over anti religious stuff and parroting the same stupid lines of "sinners burn in hell" yet claiming to stand for freedom which is a lie.

i'm at the point where i want these religions and most people on the planet to be punished severely and no i don't trust them anymore i don't even trust strangers at all and feel empty around even my friends or when good things happen to me. basically i feel the good things that have been happening lately are just pointless.

however i do technically have a boyfriend now that i'll be able to meet in a few months and some others who want to hook up with me however i haven't done any of it yet since i'm trying to be careful of what i'll get myself into.

also a part of me feels that i'm not allowed to defend myself even under an obvious threat to my life because the authority figure said so.

as far as the meditation i keep trying just i'm not sure how to do it i keep visualizing yet i don't feel really anything to know that i'm doing it right.


also as far as the belittling i was trying to imitate FancyMancys way of insulting as a joke

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

reminds me of redpill channels and feminist channels etc. also like incel channels and femcels channels
all this Men are ebil debil and Women are ebil debil is so

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek:

people need to grow up :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Your need to belittle others is indicative of abuse and trauma. The way to solve your problems is not to try to take others down but to heal yourself. Do you even meditate? When was your last meditation?

i mean yes i have certain traumas and fears of stuff happening to me mainly from when i was a child even though that was more than a decade ago and i can't really seem to move on unfortunately.

although i lost all trust and respect to basically any authority figure at this point especially since i've been lied to about a lot of stuff and found out in many cultures and how i was raised that certain harmless things are "evil" and "wrong" and worthy of punishment etc. and how i've been suggested to do stuff i never wanted such as have kids and get married and if i have a son i'm "allowed" to circumcise etc. which i've completely refused to do and if i had a son and did that then i would want my son to severely harm me. i basically feel anxiety to having consensual sex and relationships outside religiously approved kosher straight marriage and never understood why people kept telling me that maybe i'll like it when they don't do that themselves. also i have certain anxiety about religion taking over the united States since i live there due to all the stupid shit happening and the people getting fed up over anti religious stuff and parroting the same stupid lines of "sinners burn in hell" yet claiming to stand for freedom which is a lie.

i'm at the point where i want these religions and most people on the planet to be punished severely and no i don't trust them anymore i don't even trust strangers at all and feel empty around even my friends or when good things happen to me. basically i feel the good things that have been happening lately are just pointless.

however i do technically have a boyfriend now that i'll be able to meet in a few months and some others who want to hook up with me however i haven't done any of it yet since i'm trying to be careful of what i'll get myself into.

also a part of me feels that i'm not allowed to defend myself even under an obvious threat to my life because the authority figure said so.

as far as the meditation i keep trying just i'm not sure how to do it i keep visualizing yet i don't feel really anything to know that i'm doing it right.


also as far as the belittling i was trying to imitate FancyMancys way of insulting as a joke

You need to pick your partner carefully. I dont think it is necessary to wait until marriage (xian programming), but you shouldnt be a slut or someone who does whoever basicly having sex with people without knowing them.

And you dont have to be gay bi or lesbian either.

Try to come to terms with your own sexuality first. It is okay to feel desire and it is okay to lust.

Also, you didnt need to reply to AgainstAllAuthority; this person has been accusing multiple people of the same thing. Someone like that is just a nutcase to me.

 

[Mastermind]

Your need to belittle others is indicative of abuse and trauma. The way to solve your problems is not to try to take others down but to heal yourself. Do you even meditate? When was your last meditation?

i mean yes i have certain traumas and fears of stuff happening to me mainly from when i was a child even though that was more than a decade ago and i can't really seem to move on unfortunately.

although i lost all trust and respect to basically any authority figure at this point especially since i've been lied to about a lot of stuff and found out in many cultures and how i was raised that certain harmless things are "evil" and "wrong" and worthy of punishment etc. and how i've been suggested to do stuff i never wanted such as have kids and get married and if i have a son i'm "allowed" to circumcise etc. which i've completely refused to do and if i had a son and did that then i would want my son to severely harm me. i basically feel anxiety to having consensual sex and relationships outside religiously approved kosher straight marriage and never understood why people kept telling me that maybe i'll like it when they don't do that themselves. also i have certain anxiety about religion taking over the united States since i live there due to all the stupid shit happening and the people getting fed up over anti religious stuff and parroting the same stupid lines of "sinners burn in hell" yet claiming to stand for freedom which is a lie.

i'm at the point where i want these religions and most people on the planet to be punished severely and no i don't trust them anymore i don't even trust strangers at all and feel empty around even my friends or when good things happen to me. basically i feel the good things that have been happening lately are just pointless.

however i do technically have a boyfriend now that i'll be able to meet in a few months and some others who want to hook up with me however i haven't done any of it yet since i'm trying to be careful of what i'll get myself into.

also a part of me feels that i'm not allowed to defend myself even under an obvious threat to my life because the authority figure said so.

as far as the meditation i keep trying just i'm not sure how to do it i keep visualizing yet i don't feel really anything to know that i'm doing it right.


also as far as the belittling i was trying to imitate FancyMancys way of insulting as a joke

I have the impression that you are too kind and open, which is interpreted as a weakness by others and seen as an opportunity to attack you.
I think that this post by Shadowcat will help you https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=67055

 

[Jrvan]

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I would really recommend jrvan and Ol have a private 1on1 conversation away from this noise and all these external intentions. You guys must be surprised at how differently that will go.

I would be comfortable with having a private conversation with you, but I don't have enough trust built up with Ol Argedco to feel safe having one with him. I would be too guarded while worrying about him trying to use the conversation against me. I trusted him when I first came here, and I even looked up to him and a few others. But they've ruined that trust and respect and their relationships to me. They treated me with suspicion like I was an enemy from early on, and they still look at me that way even if they won't admit it. It's kind of crushing sometimes, but I persist here out of love for my Gods because I know they want me here for whatever reasons that I can't understand personally. I do my best, and my best isn't ever going to be good enough to satisfy certain regulars here that I'm not an enemy. It is what it is. If at any time the Gods no longer wanted me here then I would go, but I decided a while ago after trying to leave once that I'm not going to leave for anyone other than the Gods whom I love so much. I do what I do for them. Every time I log onto the forums with something to say, I look at the image of Father Satan with the pentagram at the top of the page, and I reflect on whether I'm doing the right things and doing right by him, and if my actions are against him or not. I don't want to let him down. I want to preserve his domain here, and I want to continue to try my best to help make it better alongside everyone else. It would be nice if people stopped doubting my intentions so much, but I don't expect this to change any time soon. People are how they are. It's all been said before at this point so I'll try to change my reactions.

I think this is a situation that mainly needs for everyone to cool down. There is a limit to the usefulness of aggressive behavior during these sorts of debates. Even then, one can create victorious outcomes through methods other than aggression.

Personally, I think it would be silly to consider you an enemy after what has happened because although some destructive behaviors came out, such passion came out of good places. I believe time will mend most wounds here, especially if you continue to keep a positive mindset. And, if others are willing to relax toward you, you should do the same for them. This is not a situation where only one person takes corrective actions.

Whatever happened in the past should not be seen as some sort of damning event. Like always, we learn, grow, and advance. There will always be disagreements, but we have to learn to deal with these appropriately, rather than fighting so much that we have left the environment as a disaster.

I've made numerous past efforts to make peace. If the ones who have had problems with me want to meet me half way then I'm all for it, naturally. I'm not the type to hold heavy grudges in most cases, and my anger usually doesn't last long unless I decide to intentionally sustain it in the case of jews and certain enemy mages whose souls I am currently in the process of destroying.

All I ask is that the lies, propaganda, and intentional antagonism towards me stops. I'm not stupid, and some people seem to think I reacted in the ways that I did for no reason. That itself was part of a propaganda campaign to make me appear as crazy as well as the aggressor when I wasn't the initial aggressor at all. A lot of this happened from a desire of others to push the responsibility for this mess onto me entirely. It's as if to say something like "If you never came here then none of this would have happened." And yes, none of it would have happened, and they would still have their way with pushing people down without any opposition. The bullies got mad at me. If the bullies want to stop being mad at me, and just swallow their pride and let it go, then I will have peace with them. In the meantime, I will do my best to ignore them. It's not always easy. I'm not perfect, but I try my best. Sometimes my best isn't all that great, or it may fall short in the eyes of some.

 

[tabby]

...

Jack, is it alright if I ask you a question? Unrelated to the discussion and arguments at hand.
You can feel free to place this in a separate thread if you feel it's necessary.