How much involvment are from pastors/Imams/Rabbis in regards to the drug trade?

[DisillusionedCitizen]

Back in 2022, a few months before I joined the forums, I watched a video on Telegram where some people revealed that drugs were being sold by the Catholic Church. While I have a hunch that this isn't the first time they've done this, but how involved are the upper brasses of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam in regards to the distribution of drugs? How deep are they in on the drug trades?

Am I the only one who thinks secularism's biggest mistake was to leave religion out of political affairs? This would imply that, by leaving Jews, Christians, and Muslims to their devices, they're free to influence political/scientific/academic/medical affairs. It leaves certain, more ignorant secular people in confusion, not realizing how much actions these 3 "religions" have indirectly affected others. Otherwise, the arguments and reasoning secular people make for this decision are solid.

 

[CrimsonMonarch]

I cannot answer very precisely in terms of how religious heads are involved, but jews have been actively involved in drug trade inside the US and around the world due to their positions in power, to the point where they brought opioid epidemics upon the population with complete disregard for the consequences. I would not be surprised if the volume of drug trade would still be quite sizeable regarding religious figures outside of any particular nation. However, this is usually done at the upper bases as you said, not all pastors might be involved in drug trade, especially if they are local.

As for the separation of secularism, you can argue both for and against it, but it ultimately boils down to the fault residing in the parasitic nature of these religions, and not in the separation of the religion itself. Christianity was so coupled to the state during medieval times, that it could be said christianity was the state itself, and nothing good came out of it: humanity was set back in terms of knowledge and technology, inquisitions and witch hunts happened and most people lived like slaves tilling the fields for their overlords. Many civilizatios had previously triumphed despite religion being at their core (Ancient Greece/Rome and Ancient Egypt are the most obvious). Leaving religion out of state affairs is, in my opinion, at least partially better than not doing so, simply because the representatives of such movements will find a way to deal harm either way, but by separating it from the state, the church has no say in legislation, at least not directly. The jews will always find ways to harm societies because that is their raison d'être. This only applies regarding abrahamic religions, if we're talking about a Pagan religion or belief system with humanity and life at the center, I would honestly not separate it from the state. It can simply bring no harm, but it could empower the individual greatly, assuming s competent and honest leadership.
I hope this was somewhat helpful, I don't want to go full into politics and religion, it would take me an essay of cataclismic proportions to convey it all

 

[DisillusionedCitizen]

I would not be surprised if the volume of drug trade would still be quite sizeable regarding religious figures outside of any particular nation. However, this is usually done at the upper bases as you said, not all pastors might be involved in drug trade, especially if they are local.

Even if the local Pastors and Imams aren't involved in the drug trades, they're still somehow allowing it to happen. I don't the churches/mosques/synagogues coming up with any real solution.

As for the separation of secularism, you can argue both for and against it, but it ultimately boils down to the fault residing in the parasitic nature of these religions, and not in the separation of the religion itself.

I have to thank you for bringing this up. The Abrahamic religions being parasitic is something I agree on, as I had come to a similar realization: Without the protection of the state, these religions could have never thrived as well as they have currently.

Leaving religion out of state affairs is, in my opinion, at least partially better than not doing so, simply because the representatives of such movements will find a way to deal harm either way, but by separating it from the state, the church has no say in legislation, at least not directly. The Jews will always find ways to harm societies because that is their raison d'être.

Even though I have no control over political affairs, but that statement worries me the most. The church/mosque/synagogue still have some measure of control over things through political proxies. In addition (and to my frustration), any suspicion of these 'religions' having a correlation to drugs/crime rates is automatically gets dismissed simply because they have nothing to do with the crime itself, even though the church/mosque/synagogue have a factor in driving them to committ murder/robbery/DUI/etc..

I can't be the only one who realizes this kind of problem with secularism.

 

[DisillusionedCitizen]

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