About the Beauty Of This World

[Jrvan]

I think the corruption in the concept of Karma is the association of it with morality. Yes Karma is the fruit of the planted seed, but I don't think that has anything to do with morality. It's not good actions versus bad actions... rather I would say the sliding scale is ignorance versus knowledge. When one is ignorant, it leads to karma. When one has knowledge, it leads to Dharma.

That's what came to my mind when I pondered it again now. And it supports everything I said before about Karma being jungle law. Knowledge leads to civilization, ignorance destroys civilization and leads back to the jungle.

I get what you mean but the opposite of ignorance isn’t knowledge it’s enlightenment which is almost entirely psychic, though having physical knowledge is a big part of reaching true enlightenment/understanding.

Ah, oops. I'm glad you understand the essence of my meaning though. Father gives us knowledge which leads us out of ignorance and into enlightenment. Is that more accurate?

 

[Jrvan]

About “Karma” and that whole topic, it is something that will never be fully understood or agreed upon because of the limitation of human understanding. Karma, Dharma and the aether are things that will not be comprehended until we achieve the Light Body/MO.

I think the corruption in the concept of Karma is the association of it with morality. Yes Karma is the fruit of the planted seed, but I don't think that has anything to do with morality. It's not good actions versus bad actions... rather I would say the sliding scale is ignorance versus knowledge. When one is ignorant, it leads to karma. When one has knowledge, it leads to Dharma.

That's what came to my mind when I pondered it again now. And it supports everything I said before about Karma being jungle law. Knowledge leads to civilization, ignorance destroys civilization and leads back to the jungle.

This makes a lot more sense. Actually it reminds me of that video I showed you the other day, and the guy talked about why bad people get their way and good people don’t - not to do with balance or morality or “Karma”, but instead, who has more power so to speak.

How do weak people over throw strong people? Numbers. That’s why sheep have large herds because the quality of their power as individuals is lower, but in numbers stronger.

One on one, a sheep would be devoured by a lion. But a lion would be trampled by a herd of sheep. But a pride of lions would be able to overcome a herd of sheep.

... am I making sense?

Yeah. Friedrich Nietzsche put to death the jewish concepts of good and evil. They perverted the concept and values of morality. True morality and ethics is taught by the Gods, and has nothing to do with Karma.

Karma is just the payoff of our work. If we don't have spiritual knowledge then we will obviously make a lot of mistakes and create bad tasting fruits for ourselves. It's like messing up a bunch of magick workings, and then wondering why it went wrong - obviously it's because we didn't have or didn't utilize the spiritual knowledge necessary to create the result we wanted.

Basically, the jews steal the Karma/fruit of our labor while they force feed us the Karma/fruit of their labor. Who the f would want to eat jewish fruit? It's self destructive and laced in animal and human blood. It's terrible.

Through spiritual knowledge, Dharma, and Magick, we are freed from the mistakes and karma of our past(s) lived in ignorance. Ignorance that was forced upon us by the jews.

Karma doesn't take care of the bad guys for us. It's not a universal balancer and wrong corrector. Good people can do "bad" things and not reap "bad karma" if they have spiritual knowledge. Bad people can do bad things and not reap bad karma if they have spiritual knowledge (look at the jews, even without access to magick power of their own, they still can direct energy of others through the spiritual knowledge of how to do so, which they stole from us). If we want justice then we have to get it for ourselves because "karma" as it's conceptualized being tied to morality does not exist, and it won't get our justice for us. Good deeds won't win you good karma. You gave a homeless person some bread? That doesn't win you "karma" points. It just improved that person's day a little bit. It's not going to mysteriously bring you better fortune because you sowed "good karma." Not how it works at all. In fact, giving your wealth and food away to other people is probably, if anything, going to bring you "bad" or undesirable karma because you gave away your wealth - you have less now. Better to teach people the skills they need to be able to get their own food and wealth. Doing the "right" thing and giving people your belongings is just going to hurt you.

 

[tabby]

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Yeah. Friedrich Nietzsche put to death the jewish concepts of good and evil. They perverted the concept and values of morality. True morality and ethics is taught by the Gods, and has nothing to do with Karma.

Karma is just the payoff of our work. If we don't have spiritual knowledge then we will obviously make a lot of mistakes and create bad tasting fruits for ourselves. It's like messing up a bunch of magick workings, and then wondering why it went wrong - obviously it's because we didn't have or didn't utilize the spiritual knowledge necessary to create the result we wanted.

Basically, the jews steal the Karma/fruit of our labor while they force feed us the Karma/fruit of their labor. Who the f would want to eat jewish fruit? It's self destructive and laced in animal and human blood. It's terrible.

Through spiritual knowledge, Dharma, and Magick, we are freed from the mistakes and karma of our past(s) lived in ignorance. Ignorance that was forced upon us by the jews.

Karma doesn't take care of the bad guys for us. It's not a universal balancer and wrong corrector. Good people can do "bad" things and not reap "bad karma" if they have spiritual knowledge. Bad people can do bad things and not reap bad karma if they have spiritual knowledge (look at the jews, even without access to magick power of their own, they still can direct energy of others through the spiritual knowledge of how to do so, which they stole from us). If we want justice then we have to get it for ourselves because "karma" as it's conceptualized being tied to morality does not exist, and it won't get our justice for us. Good deeds won't win you good karma. You gave a homeless person some bread? That doesn't win you "karma" points. It just improved that person's day a little bit. It's not going to mysteriously bring you better fortune because you sowed "good karma." Not how it works at all. In fact, giving your wealth and food away to other people is probably, if anything, going to bring you "bad" or undesirable karma because you gave away your wealth - you have less now. Better to teach people the skills they need to be able to get their own food and wealth. Doing the "right" thing and giving people your belongings is just going to hurt you.

You really are good at wording this. I’d place my bet on you being a philosopher in a past life.

Didn’t the english word “bad” originate from meaning something close to “womanish males”? “Evil” originates from a word that meant uppity. “Wicked” meaning witch. So basically things that are actually good [witches/witchcraft, pride and wealth, feminine] are all turned inside out and used as words to describe so-called “evil”.

I couldn’t figure out for a while how to say what was wrong with today’s idea of “Karma” other than it sounded corrupted, and x-y-z stated before. Separate morality from Karma, and then you have something that actually functions as a viable concept that doesn't sound like christian bible nonsense.

Kinda reminds me of the whole “give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats for a life time” or something like that. Teaching others to be self-reliant or independent enough to look after themselves means you don’t have to deplete your own resources helping them for the rest of their life for things they can do themselves.

 

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Oh man... I’m hoping that last comment didn’t glitch on me but in case it did, I meant to quote jrvan.

 

[SouthernWhiteGentile]

Ah, oops. I'm glad you understand the essence of my meaning though. Father gives us knowledge which leads us out of ignorance and into enlightenment. Is that more accurate?

Yes. Don’t forget the “emptiness of knowledge”. You can be a human encyclopedia and have absolutely nothing to show for it if the knowledge is not applied and used to help advance yourself.

Oh man... I’m hoping that last comment didn’t glitch on me but in case it did, I meant to quote jrvan.

It’s definitely glitched every reply you made on this thread quoted me as well not sure why.

 

[tabby]

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Oh man... I’m hoping that last comment didn’t glitch on me but in case it did, I meant to quote jrvan.

It’s definitely glitched every reply you made on this thread quoted me as well not sure why.

I was tired and didn’t realise until after I submitted the second comment that I had mixed up my drafts.

I say “glitched” because after submitting the first one, my screen jumped to a draft I’m still trying to figure out, which was quoting Meteor. Not thinking properly, I thought it had somehow quoted Meteor on this thread but it was a different comment draft entirely.

My bad.

 

[Jrvan]

Ah, oops. I'm glad you understand the essence of my meaning though. Father gives us knowledge which leads us out of ignorance and into enlightenment. Is that more accurate?

Yes. Don’t forget the “emptiness of knowledge”. You can be a human encyclopedia and have absolutely nothing to show for it if the knowledge is not applied and used to help advance yourself.

I hope this isn't how you think of me. In the past, you wanted to throw me in the swamp and saw me as an upstart know-it-all. I'm guessing that's not what this is about, and this is genuine well-intended advice and contribution. I've learned to give you the benefit of the doubt even when I feel skeptical due to our poor beginnings.

 

[Giszmon666]

The neutrality of the universe and/or nature is not zero. If this were the case, we would not have to learn and follow nature. Nature is not just biology and biology is nothing but chemistry and so on.

Matter, energy and other particles are alive and therefore have consciousness and are obviously the components and foundations of DNA and everything else. This is because there are levels and hierarchy of existence and power.

1. The word "beautiful" is a typical subjective thing, but the reality and the truth will be always objective, so it is impossible to say the Universe as "ugly" or "beautiful" because it is just being and you can use it's energies how you want.
2.Hierarchy is absolutely brokenable, because in a spiritual hierarchy everyone is evolving and it is possible with time, that there will be people whos will be so much better leaders from whos are now the leaders.
3. The nature is really not just from biology and chemistry, there is actually physics to, and we can learn about the Universe everything in a logical way.
4. Happiness is actually about from hormones. No more nor less.
5. I think that every ss/ns should to learn to see the reality how it is. Pessimism is as wrong as optimism, because to survive this world is the only one option is to see the world realistically.
6. To see our world "perfect"/ "too beautiful" is very christian like, because the yewish says always, that everyone MUST TO SEE THIS WORLD BEAUTIFUL WHAT HAS "MADE" FROM A YEWISH "GOD" WHO IS SITTING ALWAYS ON A FUCKING CLOUD.

Chemistry and biology study the same matter and energy that physics studies. Besides that, physics also studies other particles and goes deeper into the microcosm as well as the macrocosm such as planets, solar systems, galaxies etc.

You can't do anything to particles because they have properties and they interact with each other and they are not all the same. To give a few examples:

An atom may not have the power and influence that a planet or star has but it has its own little power and influence not nothing.

A bacterium cannot do what a human can do but it has its potential and value. It can be an ally and make symbiosis in the gut flora of humans or it can have other purposes and live elsewhere.

Even our bodies are organized and have hierarchy like a civilization. I was referring to the different manifestations of life and existence in nature and the levels and hierarchies they are, have and represent. I was not referring to hierarchy in civilization, of course that is also part of nature.

If you feel yourself better in a "reality" where the hierarchy is unbreakable, and you "place" in the hierarchy is safer, than Hell, than "Ok".

 

[SouthernWhiteGentile]

I hope this isn't how you think of me. In the past, you wanted to throw me in the swamp and saw me as an upstart know-it-all. I'm guessing that's not what this is about, and this is genuine well-intended advice and contribution. I've learned to give you the benefit of the doubt even when I feel skeptical due to our poor beginnings.

Haha no I see you as someone that is trying to learn more and debate their ideas which is a great thing that everyone should be doing.

 

[Jrvan]

I hope this isn't how you think of me. In the past, you wanted to throw me in the swamp and saw me as an upstart know-it-all. I'm guessing that's not what this is about, and this is genuine well-intended advice and contribution. I've learned to give you the benefit of the doubt even when I feel skeptical due to our poor beginnings.

Haha no I see you as someone that is trying to learn more and debate their ideas which is a great thing that everyone should be doing.

That means a lot to me. Thank you.

 

[Jrvan]

After re-reading this post, I'm kind of laughing at myself for reacting to it the way I did the first time. I totally misinterpreted it and assumed I was getting knocked down because my post seemed to relate and with the timing. How ridiculous. Oh well, I'm glad I can see the light of this post now with its true meaning.

It's really sad that such a beautiful concept of the Magnum Opus, the death and rebirth of the soul as in the legendary Osiris myth, the Mother, Father, and Son - got twisted so badly to the point where xians want to escape this world and their destiny as gentiles... eternal life and bliss. They think they will be happier powering a jewish battery. If they think that a kike on a stick pretending to be Osiris, Set, Thoth, Amon, and more Gods all rolled into one, is going to lead them to eternal life then there's no hope for them. They will never grasp the sun as they were meant to, and their precious souls will be swallowed and used by a worthless race of invaders who hate them as much as they need them.

 

[Jrvan]

Life is beautiful.

 

[Ryan369]

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You’re giving me a headache. I have not stated with certainty that I know what “Karma” is, I’m trying rather hard not to since it’s a field of knowledge that makes little sense to me with what info I can work with. Though still, I’m not convinced that what you have told me isn’t corrupted.

The law of cause and effect doesn’t sound anything like what people describe “Karma” to be. An event or action/lack of action happens = consequence takes place - makes sense as a law. “Karma” can somehow be redirected onto others who don’t deserve it, that’s not just, which suggests heavily to me “Karma” is a term used for negative energy that is created as a result of something that doesn’t get resolved or dealt with. This would make “Karma” different from the law of cause and effect, and more of a by-product from a particular consequence instead of being the equation of the law itself.

This is why I felt it is similar to Saturn in its ways. “Karma” will bite you hard if you don’t clean it away and resolve problems.

Humanity didn’t deserve its knowledge being stripped away by beings with no regards for life. Women didn’t deserve torture and death by the church whenever someone cried ‘witch!’. The Inquisition, and so on. I can go on and on for you... calling what has happened to our people and Father Satan’s creations as “totally justified” is bogus to me. No amount of “past life this and that” would ever justify to me a child being tormented by the church.

Astrology patterns can be overcome with advancement, it is why people can avoid death and misfortune through developing spiritually, strengthening their awareness, and prepare. Our birth placement may be set in stone, but everything after you either advance spiritually and take a level of control over your fate, or you are at the mercy of it.

There’s a page in JoS talking of a conversation HPS Maxine had with Father Satan and Lord Azazel. 10,000 years ago humanity was almost complete, and then they were attacked. This places the timeline roughly in the Age of Cancer, if my math is correct. Does this match with what you mean about the age of Kali Yuga?

https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Conversation.html

For answers in regards to our purpose and spiritual progress, divine laws, etc, I trust only Satan and his Demons, the HPs, the sermons here, jrvan and myself to find and be guided to the answers I need. I have dealt with a cult trying to shove so-called truth and spiritual knowledge down my throat for years before, so no, I decline your offer of answers written by other people. I don’t learn well from reading books anyway... I’ll go to Father or my GD directly and ask for guidance if I want to find answers.

Especially since I’m a little off about your wording, particularly here:

“What happens in people's lives is based on the seeds of action in there soul , that is the causal ethereal body,and God,Siva,Aether, Para Brahman,the All e.t.c is the executioner of these seeds of action,their consequences. And God is never wrong in His execution of these karmic seeds”

I’m curious, who is “God” to you?

God is the underlying Essence that animates everything. The whole creation is a manifestation of God. The Hindu Saivites ( Saivism being the oldest religion on the planet,all the Ancient Dharmic Civilisations where Saivite Civilisations) understand God (Siva) in three perfections 1. The Absolute Reality that is beyond Consciousness, is timeless, formless and spaceless. Is undefinable. Pervades all things and is at the root of all things. The centre of this state is in the Crown Chakra in man. They call this first uncreated perfection Parasiva. It's unmanifested. When one experiences this state through raising the Kundalini power to the crown, they are said to Self Realised. All karmic seeds are burnt,you are liberated from the karmic cycle of birth and death. This is Moksha. You become a god, and don't need a physical body to acsend further. You will keep evolving in higher realms or if you choose to reincarnate,you will probably be a great guru or a leader of a nation anything in those lines to help the people achieve the same.
The other two perfections of God are manifested forms of God. These they call Parasakti,and is considered the feminine aspect of God, Parasiva is male aspect. There is Satchidananda meaning "existence-consciousness-bliss". Siva or God's Divine mind and simultaneously the pure superconscious mind of each individual soul. It is perfect love and omniscient, omnipotent Consciousness,the fountainhead of all existence,yet containing and permeating all existence. The centre of this man is the Ajna Chakra ,the Third Eye, Sixth Chakra.The other 3. Is Paramesvara or Siva Nataraja- God Siva's third perfection,God in Being form the Primal Soul. This is what your soul body merges with. Every soul is in this image. It's Supreme Mahadeva. Collectively these 3 perfections the Hindu Saivites worship as Siva/God. Personally this is the view I have also taken ,it makes sense to me. So you have God,Gods and Goddesses,the Gods and Goddesses are created Beings just like the rest. They are at the same level as God Siva the main difference is that Siva is uncreated.
Now as for Karma, I have said what I said , I will just keep going around in circles. The goodness of the path we are on is ,for so long as we keep meditating,we will come to understand many of these things perfectly. As we ourselves become gods in our own right. Divine Laws like Karma run very deep and they certain aspects one can only understand if one becomes Consciously Superconsious (Satchidananda). Because you will see the Inner Workings of everything from the inside out .And when one has Superconsious understanding of certain things, you can't explain intellectually,as the intellect is limited. So this is a state we all have to experience for ourselves , that is being Consciously Superconsious.I think I will end here. We just keep meditating and doing warfare,whether in this lifetime or the next under the guidance of the Gods,we will all eventually achieve Godhead(Parasiva Consciousness). That's the prime purpose of life on Earth.

I have a question about Moksha. I've been reading the Kashmir Shaivite mystic Abhinavagupta's commentary on the Bhagavad Gita. He says in his book that if a person meditates on the "empty space between two thoughts" that he will also zero-out his karma. Basically, he is saying that Void meditation (Turiya) will also bring a person to Moksha without raising the Kundalini. Do you think this is Dharmic or do you think he pick this up from Sufism?

 

[likman666]

You’re giving me a headache. I have not stated with certainty that I know what “Karma” is, I’m trying rather hard not to since it’s a field of knowledge that makes little sense to me with what info I can work with. Though still, I’m not convinced that what you have told me isn’t corrupted.

The law of cause and effect doesn’t sound anything like what people describe “Karma” to be. An event or action/lack of action happens = consequence takes place - makes sense as a law. “Karma” can somehow be redirected onto others who don’t deserve it, that’s not just, which suggests heavily to me “Karma” is a term used for negative energy that is created as a result of something that doesn’t get resolved or dealt with. This would make “Karma” different from the law of cause and effect, and more of a by-product from a particular consequence instead of being the equation of the law itself.

This is why I felt it is similar to Saturn in its ways. “Karma” will bite you hard if you don’t clean it away and resolve problems.

Humanity didn’t deserve its knowledge being stripped away by beings with no regards for life. Women didn’t deserve torture and death by the church whenever someone cried ‘witch!’. The Inquisition, and so on. I can go on and on for you... calling what has happened to our people and Father Satan’s creations as “totally justified” is bogus to me. No amount of “past life this and that” would ever justify to me a child being tormented by the church.

Astrology patterns can be overcome with advancement, it is why people can avoid death and misfortune through developing spiritually, strengthening their awareness, and prepare. Our birth placement may be set in stone, but everything after you either advance spiritually and take a level of control over your fate, or you are at the mercy of it.

There’s a page in JoS talking of a conversation HPS Maxine had with Father Satan and Lord Azazel. 10,000 years ago humanity was almost complete, and then they were attacked. This places the timeline roughly in the Age of Cancer, if my math is correct. Does this match with what you mean about the age of Kali Yuga?

https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Conversation.html

For answers in regards to our purpose and spiritual progress, divine laws, etc, I trust only Satan and his Demons, the HPs, the sermons here, jrvan and myself to find and be guided to the answers I need. I have dealt with a cult trying to shove so-called truth and spiritual knowledge down my throat for years before, so no, I decline your offer of answers written by other people. I don’t learn well from reading books anyway... I’ll go to Father or my GD directly and ask for guidance if I want to find answers.

Especially since I’m a little off about your wording, particularly here:

“What happens in people's lives is based on the seeds of action in there soul , that is the causal ethereal body,and God,Siva,Aether, Para Brahman,the All e.t.c is the executioner of these seeds of action,their consequences. And God is never wrong in His execution of these karmic seeds”

I’m curious, who is “God” to you?

God is the underlying Essence that animates everything. The whole creation is a manifestation of God. The Hindu Saivites ( Saivism being the oldest religion on the planet,all the Ancient Dharmic Civilisations where Saivite Civilisations) understand God (Siva) in three perfections 1. The Absolute Reality that is beyond Consciousness, is timeless, formless and spaceless. Is undefinable. Pervades all things and is at the root of all things. The centre of this state is in the Crown Chakra in man. They call this first uncreated perfection Parasiva. It's unmanifested. When one experiences this state through raising the Kundalini power to the crown, they are said to Self Realised. All karmic seeds are burnt,you are liberated from the karmic cycle of birth and death. This is Moksha. You become a god, and don't need a physical body to acsend further. You will keep evolving in higher realms or if you choose to reincarnate,you will probably be a great guru or a leader of a nation anything in those lines to help the people achieve the same.
The other two perfections of God are manifested forms of God. These they call Parasakti,and is considered the feminine aspect of God, Parasiva is male aspect. There is Satchidananda meaning "existence-consciousness-bliss". Siva or God's Divine mind and simultaneously the pure superconscious mind of each individual soul. It is perfect love and omniscient, omnipotent Consciousness,the fountainhead of all existence,yet containing and permeating all existence. The centre of this man is the Ajna Chakra ,the Third Eye, Sixth Chakra.The other 3. Is Paramesvara or Siva Nataraja- God Siva's third perfection,God in Being form the Primal Soul. This is what your soul body merges with. Every soul is in this image. It's Supreme Mahadeva. Collectively these 3 perfections the Hindu Saivites worship as Siva/God. Personally this is the view I have also taken ,it makes sense to me. So you have God,Gods and Goddesses,the Gods and Goddesses are created Beings just like the rest. They are at the same level as God Siva the main difference is that Siva is uncreated.
Now as for Karma, I have said what I said , I will just keep going around in circles. The goodness of the path we are on is ,for so long as we keep meditating,we will come to understand many of these things perfectly. As we ourselves become gods in our own right. Divine Laws like Karma run very deep and they certain aspects one can only understand if one becomes Consciously Superconsious (Satchidananda). Because you will see the Inner Workings of everything from the inside out .And when one has Superconsious understanding of certain things, you can't explain intellectually,as the intellect is limited. So this is a state we all have to experience for ourselves , that is being Consciously Superconsious.I think I will end here. We just keep meditating and doing warfare,whether in this lifetime or the next under the guidance of the Gods,we will all eventually achieve Godhead(Parasiva Consciousness). That's the prime purpose of life on Earth.

I have a question about Moksha. I've been reading the Kashmir Shaivite mystic Abhinavagupta's commentary on the Bhagavad Gita. He says in his book that if a person meditates on the "empty space between two thoughts" that he will also zero-out his karma. Basically, he is saying that Void meditation (Turiya) will also bring a person to Moksha without raising the Kundalini. Do you think this is Dharmic or do you think he pick this up from Sufism?

To Kundalini 666- they are two types of God Realisations. The first is called Savikalpa Samadhi it actually starts from the heart chakra with highest being in the 3rd ,6th chakras. This is God Realisation with Form. This is not moksha and can be had without raising the Kundalini. Psychic abilities actually start from the heart chakra and can be had even if one has not raised the Kundalini. The second is called Nirvikalpa Samadhi which is God Realisation without Form, beyond Consciousness, without time,space. The undifferentiated state of existence, beyond creation,whose state cannot be adequately described but can be experienced. This centre of this state is the crown chakra. This highest state of God Consciousness CAN ONLY be experienced through the rise of the Kundalini to the crown. Only this , is moksha. That's freedom from the reincarnation cycle on Earth, one can then choose to come back and help others achieve the same or go on evolving to higher realms. This state is called Parasiva, beyond Consciousness,form,time,space. This Union of God is what we here to experience. Now with void meditation,the human has five main bodies; the physical, astral, emotional,mental and your true self the soul body,it is this body that doesn't die but it instead keeps reincarnating on Earth until it experiences the highest state of existence,Parasiva. The soul body is conceived like everything else in Satchidananda (God with form,the eternal light) . Now with void meditation one is trying to get past the mental/thought body into the soul body,which then becomes God Realisation but with form,as I said Savikalpa Samadhi,this is still not moksha, you have to go beyond this into Parasiva which will correspond with the raising of the Kundalini.

 

[likman666]

You’re giving me a headache. I have not stated with certainty that I know what “Karma” is, I’m trying rather hard not to since it’s a field of knowledge that makes little sense to me with what info I can work with. Though still, I’m not convinced that what you have told me isn’t corrupted.

The law of cause and effect doesn’t sound anything like what people describe “Karma” to be. An event or action/lack of action happens = consequence takes place - makes sense as a law. “Karma” can somehow be redirected onto others who don’t deserve it, that’s not just, which suggests heavily to me “Karma” is a term used for negative energy that is created as a result of something that doesn’t get resolved or dealt with. This would make “Karma” different from the law of cause and effect, and more of a by-product from a particular consequence instead of being the equation of the law itself.

This is why I felt it is similar to Saturn in its ways. “Karma” will bite you hard if you don’t clean it away and resolve problems.

Humanity didn’t deserve its knowledge being stripped away by beings with no regards for life. Women didn’t deserve torture and death by the church whenever someone cried ‘witch!’. The Inquisition, and so on. I can go on and on for you... calling what has happened to our people and Father Satan’s creations as “totally justified” is bogus to me. No amount of “past life this and that” would ever justify to me a child being tormented by the church.

Astrology patterns can be overcome with advancement, it is why people can avoid death and misfortune through developing spiritually, strengthening their awareness, and prepare. Our birth placement may be set in stone, but everything after you either advance spiritually and take a level of control over your fate, or you are at the mercy of it.

There’s a page in JoS talking of a conversation HPS Maxine had with Father Satan and Lord Azazel. 10,000 years ago humanity was almost complete, and then they were attacked. This places the timeline roughly in the Age of Cancer, if my math is correct. Does this match with what you mean about the age of Kali Yuga?

https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Conversation.html

For answers in regards to our purpose and spiritual progress, divine laws, etc, I trust only Satan and his Demons, the HPs, the sermons here, jrvan and myself to find and be guided to the answers I need. I have dealt with a cult trying to shove so-called truth and spiritual knowledge down my throat for years before, so no, I decline your offer of answers written by other people. I don’t learn well from reading books anyway... I’ll go to Father or my GD directly and ask for guidance if I want to find answers.

Especially since I’m a little off about your wording, particularly here:

“What happens in people's lives is based on the seeds of action in there soul , that is the causal ethereal body,and God,Siva,Aether, Para Brahman,the All e.t.c is the executioner of these seeds of action,their consequences. And God is never wrong in His execution of these karmic seeds”

I’m curious, who is “God” to you?

God is the underlying Essence that animates everything. The whole creation is a manifestation of God. The Hindu Saivites ( Saivism being the oldest religion on the planet,all the Ancient Dharmic Civilisations where Saivite Civilisations) understand God (Siva) in three perfections 1. The Absolute Reality that is beyond Consciousness, is timeless, formless and spaceless. Is undefinable. Pervades all things and is at the root of all things. The centre of this state is in the Crown Chakra in man. They call this first uncreated perfection Parasiva. It's unmanifested. When one experiences this state through raising the Kundalini power to the crown, they are said to Self Realised. All karmic seeds are burnt,you are liberated from the karmic cycle of birth and death. This is Moksha. You become a god, and don't need a physical body to acsend further. You will keep evolving in higher realms or if you choose to reincarnate,you will probably be a great guru or a leader of a nation anything in those lines to help the people achieve the same.
The other two perfections of God are manifested forms of God. These they call Parasakti,and is considered the feminine aspect of God, Parasiva is male aspect. There is Satchidananda meaning "existence-consciousness-bliss". Siva or God's Divine mind and simultaneously the pure superconscious mind of each individual soul. It is perfect love and omniscient, omnipotent Consciousness,the fountainhead of all existence,yet containing and permeating all existence. The centre of this man is the Ajna Chakra ,the Third Eye, Sixth Chakra.The other 3. Is Paramesvara or Siva Nataraja- God Siva's third perfection,God in Being form the Primal Soul. This is what your soul body merges with. Every soul is in this image. It's Supreme Mahadeva. Collectively these 3 perfections the Hindu Saivites worship as Siva/God. Personally this is the view I have also taken ,it makes sense to me. So you have God,Gods and Goddesses,the Gods and Goddesses are created Beings just like the rest. They are at the same level as God Siva the main difference is that Siva is uncreated.
Now as for Karma, I have said what I said , I will just keep going around in circles. The goodness of the path we are on is ,for so long as we keep meditating,we will come to understand many of these things perfectly. As we ourselves become gods in our own right. Divine Laws like Karma run very deep and they certain aspects one can only understand if one becomes Consciously Superconsious (Satchidananda). Because you will see the Inner Workings of everything from the inside out .And when one has Superconsious understanding of certain things, you can't explain intellectually,as the intellect is limited. So this is a state we all have to experience for ourselves , that is being Consciously Superconsious.I think I will end here. We just keep meditating and doing warfare,whether in this lifetime or the next under the guidance of the Gods,we will all eventually achieve Godhead(Parasiva Consciousness). That's the prime purpose of life on Earth.

I have a question about Moksha. I've been reading the Kashmir Shaivite mystic Abhinavagupta's commentary on the Bhagavad Gita. He says in his book that if a person meditates on the "empty space between two thoughts" that he will also zero-out his karma. Basically, he is saying that Void meditation (Turiya) will also bring a person to Moksha without raising the Kundalini. Do you think this is Dharmic or do you think he pick this up from Sufism?

To Kundalini 666- they are two types of God Realisations. The first is called Savikalpa Samadhi it actually starts from the heart chakra with highest being in the 3rd ,6th chakras. This is God Realisation with Form. This is not moksha and can be had without raising the Kundalini. Psychic abilities actually start from the heart chakra and can be had even if one has not raised the Kundalini. The second is called Nirvikalpa Samadhi which is God Realisation without Form, beyond Consciousness, without time,space. The undifferentiated state of existence, beyond creation,whose state cannot be adequately described but can be experienced. This centre of this state is the crown chakra. This highest state of God Consciousness CAN ONLY be experienced through the rise of the Kundalini to the crown. Only this , is moksha. That's freedom from the reincarnation cycle on Earth, one can then choose to come back and help others achieve the same or go on evolving to higher realms. This state is called Parasiva, beyond Consciousness,form,time,space. This Union of God is what we here to experience. Now with void meditation,the human has five main bodies; the physical, astral, emotional,mental and your true self the soul body,it is this body that doesn't die but it instead keeps reincarnating on Earth until it experiences the highest state of existence,Parasiva. The soul body is conceived like everything else in Satchidananda (God with form,the eternal light) . Now with void meditation one is trying to get past the mental/thought body into the soul body,which then becomes God Realisation but with form,as I said Savikalpa Samadhi,this is still not moksha, you have to go beyond this into Parasiva which will correspond with the raising of the Kundalini.

 

[Manofsatan]

I have come to the realization of Our/My/Satan's total supremacy of Power and being. Unmatched.
Doing these new rituals has helped with this Power of Understanding. Doing Azazel's Power Rituals has also inspired the contants need to strengthen and expand awareness of SELF and Supreme Power.

I can truly say
HAIL SATAN
HAIL ALL THE GODS OF HELL.

 

[CandiceLee1313]

I have a serious question here? And its about Lilith. Why is it the people are always looking at her like she's dirty? And every other picture I see that is supposed to be her? Or represent her? It always shows her covered with blood? Somebody's variation of what she looks like or how they picture her in their mind? And they always say that she's a harlot! And they always say that she's dirty or try to make her seem dirty or make her seem like that all she is is nothing but sexuality and it kind of bothers me! How graphic they try to make her it's almost like people hate her and they don't understand her and who and what she is? And a lot of people seem to think that she's Jewish! And a lot of people seem to think that she is made up representing women and their sexuality referring to women as something bad! Pointing out at the things that women are famous for when it comes to sexuality showing any form of intelligence and Independence and any form of liberation! Having confidence and knowing that you can do things as a female! And like with a lot of these religions around the world that are discriminative against women they're the ones that look up on women as something that shouldn't be seen or something forbidden! But when you look at other people of other backgrounds? For example when it comes to the Hindu or the Buddha Religion she is looked upon as the goddess Kali and Ennona and many other names. And she is highly respected! Especially when it comes to the balance of the male and female! Understanding the Kundalini breathing exercise and yoga! And the study of the sutras. With Satan and Lilith who and what they are and what they represent! And the balance of the male and female of the mind and the human body! And the life force that we represent! Mother Earth Gaia and the forces of nature the power of Father Satan and his gods and demons! And the goddess Lilith! A lot of people don't even understand who Lilith is? People are just as uneducated with her as they are with Satan. And yet people think of him as a monster? Or they see him as a master of magic they look at him like he is everything! And they seem to have a little more of an understanding in him but in the wrong aspects they look at him like he's the archetype! In many religions forcing people to look at him like he's some kind of a Hollywood fictitious monster instead of learning to look at him for who and what he really is! And people still have yet to find out! Who he is! And yet still what bothers me! Is the way they look up on Satan's goddesses! The effeminate goddess Lilith! And how powerful and intelligent she is! And that without her there would be no balance! We are living in a world that is lacking not only in the knowledge of who they are as a people! But we're living in a world that is unbalanced because most of the men out there don't even seem to understand women! Though they think they do! They still seem to think that women are just down here for a sexual purpose, and to be that of a Slave! And don't even have the understanding of what women are really all about and why they are here? And that we are an intelligent individual people! As well as the man! It saddens me to think that every time I get off social media and stumble across the picture of Lilith they always make her look dirty and they always make her look like she's some kind of an animal! Everything is always sexually related when it comes to her! Not even realizing that she's an intelligent human being with beauty and Grace! And then when I see pictures of Lilith and Satan together! They're always in the act of sexuality! I know that people get that they are a couple and that they are a royalty! And they represent the male and female togetherness! Procreating and showing love and balance! And when I look at pictures and yoga studios of men and women doing yoga and intimate pictures how beautiful they are! The woman has a glow to her face and she is in love! And he is happy and glows and he is in love and how they treat each other with the love and the respect! Of one another and how they worship one another and how they do whatever they can to help each other out! Keeping that balance and that ebb and flow between each other! Through thick and thin always working things together is one always figuring things out as a couple no matter how tough things get there are always together helping each other out one way or another and that they never give up in spite of the problems no matter how tough things are! And the Man shows respect for the woman always and he always treats her kindly and she always treats him with respect and treats him kindly and the balance between them! But when I look at other Patriots created by Christians and jews! It always shows Lilith being pulled around by the hair of her head! And it shows him as this beastly creature with horns! Getting rough with each other and being violent! And the disrespected a lot of these pictures show! It does concern me and it makes me wonder how father Satan feels about that? And how are queen and mother Lilith feels about it? And it makes me feel bad that people out there don't even understand her? And what her priorities are and what she's all about? And the kind of person that she was back in the days! And who and what we women are and what we represent! As a female and who and what the man is and what he represents! Especially when it comes to Father Satan and his gods and demons!? I know this question may seem a bit lately? Not to mention the fact giving you my idea on how I think and feel about this? And explaining some of the things that I go through and when I see these pictures and these graphic images! Why do people do this to Lilith? Always relating her to being dirty and making her some kind of monster or making her look like she's overly sexed or always you screaming her is somebody that's not clean!? The things that people get off about her and the things that people say! What the fuck ? Especially when they don't even know her! And what she was really like! And what she would be really like if people were actually to meet her?

 

[CandiceLee1313]

I know that this my question on Lilith, is a little off the topic here? And I am a bit all over the place with that question.... and I know that people have been after me on here trying to get me to take my time? With my texting. And getting me to take my time with wording things! Without being all over the place! But it does really aggravate me! The way people look at Lilith and the way people treat her! All I know is that I love her and I deeply respect her and I appreciate her! And if it wasn't for her we wouldn't exist! She is Just as important as Father Satan ❤ And i am looking forward to see Both her and Family Satan one of these days. Or meet them in my after life. ❤

 

[Queen of the Stars]

"When we do not think , speak and act virtuously,we create negative karmas and bring suffering upon ourselves and others. We suffer when we act instictively and intellectually without superconsious guidance.Aum."
That's why with regards to the Jewish problem Satan says
" Israel will get what she deserves"
This is also obviously based on the law of Karma. The problem is most of humanity is not acting with superconsious guidance. Because of obviously the fallen snake power. This is what has made us more vulnerable to manipulation of producing bad Karmas leading to enslavement by our actions. But as Satan says
"Israel will get what she deserves."
Hail Satan!

So when JOS makes curses, this can be seen as a virtuous act, for we have superconsious guidance?

Satanama <3

 

[Queen of the Stars]

Pessimism is as wrong as optimism, because to survive this world is the only one option is to see the world realistically.

I love this qoute ^^

what are your thoughts on hope and faith?

Faith" means not wanting to know what is true.
~Friedrich Nietzsche

Satanama <3

 

[Queen of the Stars]

I highly recommend this book and others of this lineage found here Himalayanacademy.com/resource/books

Hi, i've been reading everyones thoughts on Karma.

I see that HP has endorsed the kybalion, so i am going to read it.

Are you still recommending the Lumerian scrolls to read?

I think Karma is a really interesting topic.

Could the reptilians be seen as parasites (Arobus - snake eating its own tail), which are a part of nature.

& that these reptilians souls are meant to exist, as they are the catalysts to spur the evolution of other beings, in our case, humans.

So they (jews, those souls that don't want to grow up, or evolve, and are parasites) initiate the seeds of negative karma, when the radiance of the central sun is low, and it is our job to prevent the continued germination of these seeds, by cutting them down, and exterminating them on the astral.

And so when we see a persons being abused on the physical plane also, we step in and intervene, for this is stopping the continuation of the karmic cycle. We take action, we take responsibility, as we are warriors.

I really would like to know…. Is the central sun Sirius? Or is it the black sun? What is it? Where is it? <3

Satanama <3

 

[Queen of the Stars]

Lastly, for those who come in his place only to hate jews, or who consider that every failure in one's existence is due to jews...You don't understand things very well.

i think this is a really important point also, because we should be very precise with how we direct and use our energy, rather than loosely ranting about jews.

Satanama <3

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Are you still recommending the Lumerian scrolls to read?

Read The Lost Civilization of Lemuria by Frank Joseph.

 

[Queen of the Stars]

Are you still recommending the Lumerian scrolls to read?

Read The Lost Civilization of Lemuria by Frank Joseph.

Thanks Ol argedco luciftias <3

Satanama