What i meant was,not applying energies specifically for opening but for empowering/cleaning. Such as, vibrating raum in manipura affirming that it is completely open now, is opening of it. Vibrating the same but programming it for empowering/ cleaning sure it will empower/clean but it will...

I didnt get any reply so i m quoting you to ask. :D

Or also just a particular natal planet if thats the issue. *New moon. Any affirmation cutting negative karma will destroy both a negative planetary energy and past lives karma unless you program it specifically for one of them. “In a positive way for me i m now completely and permanently...

You just wrote what i already wrote, just elongated. Theres no change of personal preference when an individual already likes you. Liking part comes after when you have already flirted, befriended that individual and all that Besides, if you already like someone and he/she likes you back a...

Check your birth chart, negative influences on sun and venus. For making friends you can use wunjo and program it to attract really compatible friends or any other runes that helps with friends Have you freed your soul? If not then do it using any obstacle breaking or freeing energies Then...

You are welcome. Glad to hear that. Keep up with your meditations.

Yes, i had a friend (hes still alive, just not friends with me anymore). He too got into marijuana. For a month or two nothing happened, but then i would always feel his aura really weak and he had this “lazy” and demotivating/self destructing vibes. His memory also got severely effected, to...

Can you feel chakras at will? Just as sitting now just by turning your attention to a particular chakra can you feel it? Another tip that might work is resonate the chakra with its mantra before working on it. For example if you are cleaning/empowering muldhara just vibrate Laum several time...

Hmm, Thanks for input. So in emergency time can be willingly extended to 36 hours so it gives you another 36 hours,downside being we have to do it twice now. This way energy buildup loses less intensity? As opposed to 48hrs window

Since we have shifted towards art, heres something i created. You or anyone is free to use it however they like.

Instead of doing it twice today and skipping next day you should take advantage of 48 hrs window. Be smart about it. Let me further explain, 48 hrs of not doing the same working ends it. Instead of doing it 24ish hours apart delay the next working voluntarily and do it around 40ish hours, now...

Btw, that new avatar looks really nice :)

Thanks a lot Lydia<3 Its a relief knowing its still valid.

Its off topic, but today while vibrating sun square I vibrated “hraum” after Aum instead of “hraamm”, I immediately realised after vibrating it wrong, I then immediately vibrated hrram and completed the mantra. Is it ruined? If it is then theres no use in continuing the square, i would end it...

What i can tell from personal experience is, raum felt “boldest” for empowerment. I tried saulo, have been using for almost 10 days now along with raum for empowerment (two different sessions) saulo has only started to feel that bold and strong recently. Now it can also be the case that i m...

Fancy, meditate. People here are not telling you to not post anything or what you like, you are free to type and post whatever or however you like. Its just they, including me feel like you not meditating might be result of what/how you write. Try meditating and see if this urge still...

From your experiences which is better? Saulo or sowilo? for empowering all chakras.

Considering he asked this question, i dont feel like he/she is at a level where this will do the trick, i might be totally wrong in judging him/her. If my judgement is correct about him/her then using nautiz in small amount to create a little hardship in some field or isa in small amount to...

Try these 1. Do not over extend them, find a comfortable spot. Inhaling appropriately is the key here. 2. Do not scream them loud, louder does not mean stronger, vibrate slightly louder than your normal talking voice. 3.Do not vibrate everything at back of the throat, such as Aaaaa, practice...

You are mixing up disciplinary aspect with cleaning. Cleaning does what it says, it cleans, from negative energies, bindings, curses and set negative planetary energies. The way i see solar energy would work with your intention is to motivate and increase your will to not do negative things...

What he meant was, after you raise your energies when you program them you program them in mirror (by visualising yourself looking into a mirror with your goal already achieved such as healthy hair skin or whatever that is along with affirmation ofc) I dont know if Nakedpluto intended to convey...

Sorry for late post just wanted to share something. Really good and healthy skin and hair can also be achieved by intaking specific herbs if for some reason one does not want to start a working for it. Mixing the ones below 10 ml of aloe vera juice 10 ml of giloy juice 10 ml of amla juice...

Yes indeed for this very situation just chanting mantra wont work, one has to work physically, mantras are add on to that which hurries up the muscle building, but the initial step is to ofc exercise and have a well balanced and high protein diet. But there are things which does not require...

It doesnt have to be that long if you are not comfortable with it. It could be as simple as “My natal sun is now greatly empowered permanently, in a positive way for me” You can use anything as long as you use positive aspect and your mind feels you are specific enough, which varies on individual.

Thanks a lot for additional info. Yes the affirmation was more cutting negative karma inclined than that of thought controlling, i typed it as an example. Since i wrote that message i increased void rather than using energies, going from 20 minutes of void and 10 minutes of visualisation to 30...

Yes,in that way it is. I interpreted the original message as “energies work in a way that they only guide you to come across things in physical to achieve what you want and not directly works on your or anyone else’s soul”. For which i am wrong.

I m sorry if i misunderstand it, but if by “merely a guidance” i interpret it as energies will only guide you to come across things in physical. I dont believe it to be the case. Two people with same dietary plan and same workout routine, one of them performing square and one does not, the one...

Theres no such thing as “muslim rights” everything that they claim as “right” are abrahamic practices and suppression of females and which will completely die out with time. This “shiva666” is bangla. I have noticed this pattern with these bangla that they are pushing their muslim ideologies...

Thanks for writing this.Really appreciate your concern. I m havent and NOT going to use any vibrations not listed on jos, or approved by Hp and other advanced members whom i trust here. Hope you are doing much better now, and enemy attacks are completely gone.

This has confused me. After initial one does not need to direct energies to open them further, cleaning and empowering them will automatically open them further? I used to think them as 3 different aspects and have been working on them accordingly. 1.Cleaning : surya for each direct energies...

If you are staring into your third eye during, without opening it will be bring headache. Dont strain your eyes, if you are looking into your forehead while eyes closed that will bring headache as well. Be relaxed. Its pretty common to have headache while working on upper chakras. If its too...

None. If hes dabbling on dedicating then his mind is not ready yet, nor is he fully open to this knowledge. By using runes you will be bending him into dedicating,respect free will.

Its quite concerning, lets just hope he hasn't completely lost it like aldrick, kaipurr and company. He seems kind of depressed, the song he linked gives off depressing vibes as well. Depression or anxiety is the first thing that comes when one stops meditating. And theres only us who are...

The thing he wrote Is from Sadhguru, i remember listening to this long time ago randomly scrolling through videos. Still makes me think, is this the change he talked about? Is he mentally healthy? (Concerned about this)

Its great then. Let him do it. This knowledge must not be buried under thousand of posts. Its the knowledge one wishes he had when one starts.

One can free his particular planet if he wants to do a planetary square. Rather than “I m free from all negative natal aspect or i m free from all negative natal saturn energies” he/she can target individual planet with something like “My natal ___ is free from any and all negative astrological...

This is what i was looking for, i understand it better now authority/control/dominance > fear. As with authority the actions of opposition can be controlled, with fear they can be unpredictable.

Thanks a lot for this. This has helped me to understand ways of energies better, which is the purpose of asking questions like these.

Thank you for writing this.

Ohh thanks for explanation. So the negative aspects of runes cant be used in positive ways for and on yourself? I mean, For example, Gebo incites fear. So using Gebo on yourself in such a way, “In a positive healthy and safe way for me I now incite fear in anyone who tries to physically harm...

Or am i completely wrong? :? :roll:

What i dont understand is, how can energy do something that you dont program it for? What i meant was not to scare everyone away, but use Isa in such a way, that the energy stays there until a situation like that arises when someone tries to harm you, then energies scare away that particular...

https://joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Odin.html#ISA And i did not mean it in a way that “i want to use”, i presented that as an idea, to be approved or disapproved.

Blitz and one more member has suggested to use it for still mind. Not to overdo it or if felt like something negative cleaning later should remove all negativity. https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=369085#p369085 https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=296220#p296220 Cant the...

?? And astral temple can be created without astral projection. With deep trance and good visualisation.

Can same be done to gentile soul? Considering he came with intent to harm you, only verbally tho. I had an incident where someone’s voice was literally shaking while talking to me. Also, it can be done with Isa, I had this idea today, Using Isa on yourself with something like “I now incite...

That affirmation is completely fine. Present continuous can be used with affirmations. It does not mean one will not reach the goal. Check “The aura and how to use it” on intermediate section. You will find many examples with “i m programming” “falling”, theres nothing wrong with that.

Thanks for this luis, but i have read this before. What i wanted to know was what reversing actually does, their functions and purpose. Such as if we reverse Algiz, it will not take away someone’s protection but it will harm them. It becomes kind of a destructive rune (from what i read)...

The application of lucid dreaming i can think of right now could be to meditate while you are asleep. When one is at certain level of advancement one can draw high amount of energies by just willing them. For astral, talking to Gods,meeting them that sort of stuff, also you can meditate in...

Ohh, thanks for your efforts. I m not going to use them either. Most of the questions i ask are for sake knowledge and curiosity to learn. I will look for them.

Thanks for the mail

Upper chakras* Well work on all, as working on upper will make you more intelligent, but to be bold and confident and stable in that logic and intelligence you need strong solar and base. It all works in union.

You are really young, best advice i can give you is stop wasting time on these, and work on your soul, apply Goddess Astaroth’s 8 fold path.

Do not listen to anyone but your own intention. Of all people She is top most priority to father Satan on this earth for the amount of work shes done. She herself stated that Father increased her lifetime once, so no wonder He would do it again until she reaches Godhead if She hasn't already.

Mercury sqaure, working on lower chakras , Mannaz rune.

Can we talk on protonmail if thats okay with you?

Nevermind ignore my question, i over thought and confused myself. Planetary karma are stored in chakras itself.

Does deep cleaning cuts planetary negative karma as well? Or it only cuts down past life negative karma?

Use any freedom rune on both you and your gf and have a strong aop, or maybe an Aop that specifically targets these astral links so they dont form again. Or using vibrations is an issue due to privacy?

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=74710&hilit=Numerology&start=50#p367531 Scroll down within that reply to where High Priest Hc answers to luis.

:) ;)

If the things which dont like about yourself are negatives then start a working. You can free yourself using uruz,ansuz and munka from any negative obstacle. Further you can use Isa to stop the negative thoughts, completely halting the negative thoughts about yourself. Tackle the problem from...

Speaks about HP with utter disrespect, questioning anyone is not wrong, questioning with disrespect is. Says our HP has started acting like a xian, and what not. https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=75138&p=370540#p370540

They expect great results with not dedicating enough time or not taking things seriously enough. I refuse to believe that someone practices jos meditations seriously for years and isnt getting results, even a person with aphantasia can easily visualize things with several months of practice or...

Man oh man, seems like mercury retro all over again. The fact is we cannot change each other's opinions and mindset on things. I completely agree with shadowcat,a person changing partners frequently does eventually become barren in emotions and the "intensity" of emotions lessen as list of...

I understand why You changed topic title but out of respect can you please remove “evil” and change the topic name just to “Hp wants...” It just really bothers me mentally.

As usual he will deny that hes on zola’s forum. There have been a lot of these lately, OWP making a comeback as well along with his mindset of how greatly he infiltrated and completely took down Jos, stopped rtrs,by typing long texts. Heres a meme i made.

Moon improves your relation with women as in general, female friends, mother sister , in general you attract good women. Venus improves love life targets specifically love relation, women you attract as partner.

Your tracks makes me want to master a really,higher spiritual self. The seriousness and pride of that higher spiritual self, i felt that already while listening to them though i m not there,if that makes sense.

Thanks a lot brother. I appreciate the help. <3

Tbh it feels less, my individual chakra can take a lot more,lately i can go on and on meditating. I can feel this tremendous change, my soul maturing. Only problem is i lack of time as other meditations occupy my time so according to my time i made it 10 plus along with 18 of cleaning it makes...

The mantras are the same for full chakra meditation and opening of soul. So one can use follow the routine,gap and order for “opening of soul” and use techniques from “full chakra meditation” ? For main chakras. Secondly does “full chakra meditation” , those mantras they only opens the chakras...

Thanks a lot for sharing your experience. Can you please tell me where can i find uses of reversed runes?

It was really useful Blitz, as always. I thought of using Isa for more focus,but i cant due to lack of time and other meditations,my mind drifts but its not that bad, i bring it back. Getting bored is not an issue for me. Deep cleaning is helping a lot with this, 18x surya in each chakra. I...

Seems like a really quick way towards self destruction. Did you use something to clear that energy? Or you let it fade away with time? Try to completely remove it if you know a way and be really safe. Did it manifest? Or have it yet? Did you suffer side effects? Even though i dont know the...

Yeah on his last posts he was going around doubting our HP Hoddedcobra as how can Lady Maxine leave without saying goodbye and hes hiding something How can creator and Jos disappear like that, basically you are asking us to take your word for it that creator of Jos disappeared without a proper...

Yes, it was in Lady Maxine’s sermons, she advised not to use squares for black magic for now but only for white. Reason for that she stated was that normal cleaning will not clean them from our soul. No matter how much separate you are from working they end up on you,even if you are raising...

To add to that, neither me or stormblood meant that you have to visualise to intensely as you are dreaming. A normal visualisation while using astral senses will do the trick. Nakedpluto explained as how you dont have to be 100 percent melt into visualisation,just “knowing” the existence of...

How much time does it take you for that Aop? I don’t know how to frame this sentence, without sounding rude or anything, does your mind not drift at all?

I was wondering lately where did Shael go, he seemed to have pretty good knowledge. Judging by the posts he made I doubt that he was an infiltrator, but who knows. He once advised someone to use “Aum zastir” to open victim’s soul before cursing, to gain authority over victims soul. Is it safe?

This site is wrong. Once lunarium was down so i checked on this,it showed every planetary hour before the actual hour. I cross checked with 3 different sites. Those 3 had same timings while this had different. Horscope.astroseek or lunarium is most accurate.

Glad to hear that. <3 I had same feelings after i had a situation, i should have been more stronger, worked harder and much more serious. Now the situation is much better, even than before.

Other than that, hope you are doing much better now Luis, the problem you talked about i hope it solved.

I wish the same, wish i practiced meditations as well, i was already dedicated but didnt practice. We could have topped every time , be very good at athletics, basically at top of most things if we practiced seriously for a year or two. Maybe teach teachers something as well :lol:

I recently read you were asking on chakras, so i assume you just opened/worked on them. Cleaning them thoroughly will automatically make your mind “stable”, you wont fall back to lower level of self confidence. The underlying belief you talk about wont resurface.

As soon as i saw “parasite” i knew it was him, didnt need to read further.

I would be careful what i share,if i were you. Just now,i had a quick look on something regarding him.

Thanks a lot HP. <3 <3

I read it on forums, long time ago. That particular had some pretty good posts, and no one corrected him/her or saw any error in that. Father’s Planet is Venus and his number is 13 so it made further sense to me. Looks like i believed misinformation.

I have been using 13 (number of venus) affirmations for a working, because my goal is related to something ruled by venus. Not doing a square though Should i switch to one of these numbers? If 13 does not work like as i deduced it.

Thanks a lot for this. <3 Perfect timing.

Thanks. uuinne (2nd vibration of wunjo) “Uu” there is also pronounced “v”. So i thought it has to be same with Geuua, but it was in middle of sentence so i thought it might change vibration and got confused. Thanks for clarification.

Hope the things are much better now. I would like to know how its going if its okay with you.

Free completely from xian programs, with uruz or ansuz or munka. Increased aop as flowers of adonis said will definitely help, you dont need to wait you can start doing it right now, yes the moon is not in best sign for this, but you then stop doing this 2 before a good moon sign and restart...

Thanks, it was great guidance and was a great motivation booster. I have been working really hard on my spiritual self lately. My other chakras gets activated at random times, i didn't check but it has to be in accord with the planetary hour. My chakras are reacting to physical things as...

What exactly is it that you aren't able to manifest? If it is personal you can revolve around it and tell it only if you are comfortable with that.

Blitz :(

Its not all bad. There are some cases where it would be beneficial for both. One i can think of right now is, if you know the person from very long time, know personality traits and synastry. This particular person also likes you, theres a fundamental movement already in that direction, and you...

About gebo the second german pronunciation, the text it says Geuua so its pronunciation should be Ggggg-aeeee-oooooo(as in too) -aaaa but the mp3 goes something like Ggggg-e-vvvvv-aaa. Or maybe i m mishearing it everytime. Not that i m going to use it still i would be glad if you can tell me...

Its completely fine. I can wait

Do not doubt! The energies you put are working regardless of what your brain thinks. Know with utmost confidence that they are working. Concerning, one square or not look for yourself how much life has changed, you can always do it again. If saturn’s negative influences are too much, if you...

If you have time can i mail you? Would you please help me interpret mine? I can learn that way too.

Work on your chakras (without frying or overdoing it), along with your meditation routine, use sanskrit mantra with the reps you are comfortable with, chakras needs to be opened for any working. By opening i mean establishing a flow through them, the more open your chakras the more energies flow...

It does not require binding for that. Love spell, for two of them. But if i were you i would not do that at all, its their lives and their own personal choices. Do not do it if your friend asked for it, as i feel is the case. Simply deny or make an excuse that magic does not work like that...

Now that hour of jupiter has just begun, it has become much more intense and blissful.

It takes reading between the lines, but you did write it correctly in first go. Not in direct contact with your soul automatically means evoking the energy.

That will make him do some extra Rtrs, just so you know.

About crown, i always have this pressure on crown now, its not painful and i dont feel it to be negative at all its just very blissful pressure, it stays most of the times, when i lay down my head on pillow is when i feel it most normally, even while typing this i m feeling this blissful...

Vibrate it within you, just turn your attention within you(as you do with void) and feel the invocation of solar energies, you can visualise yourself in brilliant white gold every now and then, but feeling them is main part when you are gathering energies When done with reps, feel these...

https://youtu.be/efjcQUpP3V0

The only problem i see is, its missing rtrs and hatha yoga, maybe you forgot to include it in here and you are doing it regularly.

These trolls have evolved, they create account and spam non-sense for a year or two,to spike up their number of posts. Then they create confusion, spread misinformation, in small amounts create empathy for these kikes among newbies or people who are susceptible to this false info, their spiked...

Thats it! Really happy for you. <3 Step by step you are restoring everything, even better than before. Along with thanking us thank yourself as well, feel that pride, confident and strong spirit of yourself,you didnt choose to back down, you are a warrior.

Thanks a lot for this. Recently i almost completely lost something due to a transit(things are much better now), something really important to me,but strengthening my aop prevented me from completely loosing it. Sometimes i felt “i think i should just let go” , whenever i asked my Gd or Satan...

It would only protect your chakras this way, leaving out your aura, light body etc. plus its more work, protecting individual chakra then doing different protection for aura, it also makes sense to keep the protection on the outside rather than inside, the armor is always worn on the outside of...

Most probably enemy though forms or bindings luring you back to that trash religion whenever you try to leave. Dedicate , Father Satan and Gods will protect you while you advance - meditate - have a strong aop going. You can also perform a ritual to Father Satan for protection after you...

If you are new its not a good idea to look at squares right now. It would be best to focus on basics then runes then squares. It wont take much time as i make it sound. What do you mean by “fully open”? Yes they need to be opened as for any working, energy needs to flow throughout your soul...

I m unable to judge whether its an obstacle or a disease. I guess try both, uruz or ansuz “in a positive, healthy and safe way for me i m now free in everyway to easily able to visualise whatever i desire” Solar energy “I m now completely healed of ___ in a positive healthy and safe way for...

I noticed it several times, but i let it go, no point in paying attention. Slyscorpion as well has already noticed this. He also creates confusion among newbies who asks questions, and spreads misinformation which i already call him out for. Slyscorpion also posted screenshot of him on topic...

If one uses “in a positive healthy and safe way for me” even with “loosing fat” in affirmation the energies should target only fat and other things which wont cause harm to person. Now thats a different matter if his sole intention was to loose fat in any way possible. As i see it with the...

Gender does effect brain,due to different hormones and just how biologically male and female are built different, but that's only on biological level not on spiritual. On spiritual level all is effected/decided by placements of planets which sets the energies in one's soul. For example...

If you feel like you are going in that direction again, you can use Isa to stop any disintegration, just make sure its in a positive way for you.

And what would happen if one does not open his chakras, or work on them at all and proceeds with any working? Not necessarily squares, but any working such as money or love working? I ask this out of curiosity. The output of energy will be really low? Making goal very hard to manifest?

Thanks a lot <3

What he meant was, even if you ruined the square you can continue to do it with set amount of vibrations for 40 days, the amount you feel comfortable with, this way u will still make use of planetary energies. Energies will still be raised and work, also the energies you raised and applied...

when i said 40-60 reps i meant it for self-confidence working using sowilo or any solar energy, not these affirmations.

YES! You are improving along with your mental and physical state You have this ball rolling now, continue to do it and make it into much bigger ball of positivity, confidence and motivation. Affirm the same to yourself often. After yoga while laying in corpse pose(will help a lot), before...

Yeah i read it. Dont worry i m not a grammar nazi, i really appreciate your help rather than noticing spelling errors, u did it for self satisfaction though. i will start empower them as well with 8x raum each. Along with cleaning going on ofc, i have done 9xsurya on each of them for i guess...

Ohh, sorry i misunderstood, i thought you were going for natal saturn. From my knowledge i m pretty sure it cant make transiting saturn any worse but will only ease the negativity and even completely negate it. Considering you have dont have enough time to put into meditaions, from my pov i...

Hmm, would strengthening one's natal planet will also automatically strengthen the chakra related to that particular planet? I think yes, but i would appreciate your explanation.

its off topic but still related to energy drawing. What would be the best way to absorb energy from sun at all times without being in direct sun and without manually doing it as with foundation meditation Lately my soul has been carving a lot of energy. I will start to empower my aura asap...

Update me on the situation as well Luis, you helped me a lot with very basic questions of mine at start, I genuinely want you to get through all of this without taking any further damage. Gods did hear you they always do and they also look out for us more than we think they do.Trust in Them...

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Hes speaking language of gods. jokes aside he uses coding to change font of his texts, makes it look like squares on your device.

Just what are you on about? Everything you typed there none of it makes sense and is plain wrong. Stop creating confusion. You raise energies (so u dont deplete natural reserve) - Do frtr which takes 13-15 minutes for 9reps with strong intent to destroy jewish magic. Thats is it!! Nothing...

I forgot to add, evaluate your situation, narrow down your list as to what is most important right now. From i see , confidence + protection + more cleaning is what you need. Mainly protection and confidence with little more cleaning. Tomorrow is Sunday, Now go and bend your life for better. <3

This would explain a lot of things, have you been doing a cleaning program along with nullifying negative saturn influence? When we cut negative karma,remove bindings free ourselves etc. a lot of dross comes out and that can manifest itself in physical. Thats why we do cleaning right after...

NO!!! IT doesnt have to take 2 hours. You are vibrating them too much. You can normally say it. One Frtr takes about 12-15 minutes which includes tetra. You can do workings anywhere in any position, laying down sitting, as long as you are focused. Most people prefer sitting if your legs pain...

Shadowcat's aop worked well for me during a saturn transit. The event manifested before the negative aspect of saturn was made to this planet. Before it could further strengthen i spammed Aop twice a day and further damaged stopped, something around 120-140 vibrations divided into two sessions...

Thats how i understood it. What i m saying is you made your affirmations on the next day, not on the same day, because affirmations were made after sunrise. Workings take effect when we program the energies not when we start to vibrate them, as far as i know. For normal workings its the case...

I would say upto 14-15th June, after that moon goes waning. 10th of June is great its, Waxing Moon in Libra, Friday, Venus in taurus. if you already know why are you doubting your knowledge and seeking reassurance.

If its too much, sun moon breath eases it. Stimulating your heart chakra with Aum also eases the headache.

Can a really strong AOP completely negate all Saturn transit and its return? I have many years till Saturn return, and i m spending 30 minutes each day for AOP and will continue to do that as far as i can see in future. Building this up for many years won’t it completely negate saturn’s effects?

Do not start negative self talk. Its the worst thing you can do psychologically. Maybe its just a planetary transit of her which amplifies her magic. Or just pure coincidence of those events. You are strong, and only going further in that direction. Trust yourself more than her abilities...

Along with what shadow cat said, focus on “perfect” partner for yourself rather than same spiritual level. You may attract a partner of same spiritual level as you but what if he/she is not compatible in other aspects? Astrologically, personality traits etc.

I didnt interact with you much, but i have read your posts, mostly spirituality related which were helpful, your arguments with (you know who) always gave me a laugh when i was reading forums seriously. All i want to say is thank you for your information Jack. Come back soon.

Blitz once said that workings are considered to take effect when you program the energies not when you gather them. So your programming must have been after 4.52 considering u finished at 5.03, so it should not be a problem. But then again you should ask blitz,voe,Hp Cobra,Lydia, naked pluto...

Just curious about it. What would happen if one starts a working without working on his/chakras at all, how will the working be effected? By this i mean without even basic stimulation of chakras. The output of the energy will be really low from i feel, no matter how much energies one can...

Do not question your energies,DO NOT question your aop, whatever you did worked fine, these accidents can also be explained as simply "not enough attention paid" incidents, even if shes the one effecting you it sill can be your AOP warning you to further strengthen it with these minor accidents...