Earth & Neptune squares. How to calc Squares.

[ZirGohed999]

This thread is a continuation from https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5880

Energy is based on number patterns. Number (patterns) are the building blocks of power. Over time, numerous varieties of patterns, including magic squares, have been created as a spiritual power.
The important thing in a magical square is that the summation of all numbers in each row, column and diagonal is the same number. The multiplication of this summation by the square number (e.g the square number for a 13x13 matrix is 13) must be equal to the addition of all numbers in the square. You can look up the number value of the summation of numbers in a row, column and diagonal for each matrix online or you can figure it how for yourself like I did i.e if you like this such of thing-playing with numbers.
Saturn rules structures and patterns and the hidden (occult) number of magical squares is the number 3, the square number of Saturn's matrix. How?
The addition of the total numbers in a row, column and diagonal in Saturn's 3x3 matrix is 15, Jupiter's is 34, Mars' is 65 and The Sun's is 111.
If you subtract the difference in the summation of the numbers in a row, column and diagonal in Saturn's matrix from Jupiter's and then subtract the difference of Jupiter's from Mars' from the difference of Mars' from the sun's you will notice a hidden arithmetic progression with common difference of 3, the square number of Saturn's matrix. This hidden arithmetic progression applies to all magical squares sequentially.
Explanation:
(65-34)-(34-15)= 31-19=12.
(111-65)-(65-34)=46-3=15.
Note: 12+3=15.
To get the number value of the summation in a row, column and diagonal of the next matrix 7x7(Venus') you simply add 3 to the previous number implicated in the sequence of the arithmetic progression (15) plus the difference in the summation of the numbers in a row, column and diagonal of mars' from and add this to the summation of the numbers in a row, column and diagonal of the sun's.
Solution:
15+3=18
18+(111-65)+111=175.
Using this idea you can get the value for the next squares sequentially.
For the next 8x8 matrix (Mercury's)
18+3=21
21+(175-111)+175=260
For The Earth's 10x10 matrix
24+3+(369-260)+369=505.
505x10(square number)=5050(summation of all numbers in the square).
For Neptune's 12x12 matrix
30+3+(671-505)+671=870
870x12=10440.
Numbers are to letters as souls are to bodies.
Numerical magic squares are very effective for evoking the corresponding force in the material/spiritual world if the correct names (mantras) are given.
Magical squares are based on number patterns that are systematic and can be generated. Given the right knowledge, magic can be explained by science.
The 3x3, 4x4, 5x5, 6x6, 7x7, 8x8, 9x9, 10x10, 11x11, 12x12 and 13x13 matrix are Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Sun, Venus, Mercury, Moon, Earth, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto magical Squares respectively.
The order of the Planets for the magical squares is not from the Sun outward, instead it is the Z-Order of the planets in the depth that we perceive them from our vantage point here on earth. We know the Moon is the closest, because none of the others ever pass in front of it.
If we start that sequence with the Moon, because it is closest to us -- we come up with: Moon, Mercury, Venus, Sun, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn.
Now, reverse the sequence, so that the list is in order from far to near: Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Sun, Venus, Mercury, Moon. Considering the earth is the vantage point is makes sense that after the Moon square, the next is the Earth's. From a heliocentric perspective this sequence also indicates the relative distance of the planets from the center of their orbits, i.e., the distance of the planets from the Sun (with the Sun switching places with the Earth in the sequence) and the distance of the Moon from the Earth.
From a traditional geocentric perspective the Chaldean order also shows the arrangement of the planetary spheres.
The sequence of squares for the transcendental planets after the Earth are from the near to far. Aside this fact, your intuition and your Demon friend can also confirm that the matrix I attribute to the transcendental planets are correct.
There are mathematical formulas to generate magical squares. There are more than one magical square for each of the matrix above but the right formulas and correct patterns of filling the matrix will generate the right magical square for the planet of the said matrix. Magic squares can be classified into three types: odd, doubly even (divisible by four) and singly even (even, but not divisible by four).
The Saturn, Mars, Venus, Moon, Uranus and Pluto squares are odd squares. The Sun and Earth squares are singly even. The Jupiter, Mercury and Neptune squares are doubly even squares.
The squares in each category follow similar patterns of generation. The odd squares are of the "same" number patterns. Though the even squares show similar patterns, the singly even magic squares are slightly different and more specific in their category.
If you place the planetary squares of each category together, you will notice distinct patterns that are hard to miss which tells you there are systematic methods to generate them.
Odd magic squares are fairly easily constructed using the Agrippa's method of formation of magic squares. You can generate the Uranus and Pluto squares using this method. In generating an odd square, just have it in mind that the beginning point where you the number 1 in the matrix is always halfway and point below the centre. The count from the mid point is half the number of square matrix. i.e if you are generating a 5x5 matrix (Mars square), the midpoint immediately below the the center square is the third box in the second row/third column from the bottom will be your starting point. If you look at other (odd) squares in this category you will notice a similar pattern of generation. Use the Agrippa's method above to fill the matrix. There are lots of method to generate squares but this method is the most accurate/correct one because it is not all squares that have spiritual power. Another method that generate spiritual (odd) squares is the Bachet de Méziriac method.
The method is such that the beginning is midpoint immediately above the the center square. and when you are blocked the next number is placed in the same column two rows up rather than one row down. This method generate magical squares that have you begin the vibration in different directions unlike those (on the JoS site) of Agrippa's method but the number sequence are correct.
To generate a 11x11 matrix (Uranus square) using the Agrippa method, your midpoint immediately below the the center square will be the 6th box in the fifth row/6th column counting from below.
Doubly even magic squares are also easy to generate using Agrippa's method.
http://furtherlight.blogspot.co.ke/2009 ... 2.html?m=1
The construction of singly even magic squares is more difficult but I have discovered a method that works. The drawback is that I have not been able to create the right resources (images) that explain this method very easily. I will do so when I have time.
In an astrological, whatever sign your Sun is in, the Earth will be 180 degrees from it. So, if you are a 1 degree Scorpio Sun, your Earth sign is 1 degree Taurus (the signs of Scorpio and Taurus are opposite to each other.)
Naturally it would fall in the opposite house from your Sun as well. Earth in the chart does just what you’d think it does. Like the element earth, it grounds the house or other planets and points it touches. It’s about manifestation, fertility, and practicality. It’s also about basic beginnings. Saturn represents one’s karma, while the Earth represents one’s dharma - that is, what one has to accomplish, and the way one goes about accomplishing it. In numerology, Destiny/Dharma is indicated through the number 10. Like the Earth, It's a starting point and a launching pad for us to tap into our individuality.
I linked a pdf I created containing the 10x10 and 12x12 matrix which are the Earth and Neptune magical squares respectively. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TVcOog ... p=drivesdk
The directions to begin the vibration are like those on the JoS site.
The mantra for the Earth square is "Aum Bhuvaneshwari Svah/Nama" The Earth is always in the zodiac sign opposite the Sun. The best sign to begin the square is when the earth is Taurus, this is when the Sun is in Scorpio. The Earth is strong in Taurus and I have a strong feeling that the Earth is the natural ruler of Taurus. The Taurus sign strongly embodies the qualities of the Earth (and is co-ruled by Venus). You should begin the Earth square on the day and hour associated with the Sign the Earth is in... E.g, Tuesday and hour Mars when the Earth is in Scorpio.
Bhuvaneshwari is vibrated as "Bhuvaneshvaryei".
The mantra for Neptune is "Aum vam varunaya Svah/Nama"
Right now, Neptune is strong in Pisces and will be so in the coming years. Before you begin the Neptune square, it is advisable to do a working that increases your willpower. You should also increase your mental endurance. The Earth square is quite good for this. More so ask your Guardians or Demons friend(s) to protect you, they want us to have real power. They will protect you from the negative effects beyond your control, any negative effects you are experiencing are the ones you can handle. Those without talk about having real power, when they have nothing. We SS know that having serious psychic powers comes with some measures of pain. Ascending the serpent is quite difficult and comes with pains which requires extreme endurance.
I won't post the Uranus and Pluto magical squares. They are too explosive to be handled if you can figure them out, then good luck. Personally, I will resume the Pluto square again but for another purpose to increase my power when I'm more prepared. Pluto is Power.

[ZirGohed999]

I forgot to add. The Neptune Square is began on a Friday in the hour of Venus.

[luis]

Like i said in another topic i really belive that there are more square's, now your method could be true i really don't know but it make sense a lot, don't you think that the neptune Square is too much to handle? And in what day should one begin it?

[Rambo]

Responsibility to the responsible. Strength for the strong and weakness for the weak. Please also give me Pluto and Uranus too. Thank you bro!!!

[luis]

I forgot to add. The Neptune Square is began on a Friday in the hour of Venus.

It make sense, thanks even if don't think i'll do it now.

[ZirGohed999]

Like i said in another topic i really belive that there are more square's, now your method could be true i really don't know but it make sense a lot, don't you think that the neptune Square is too much to handle? And in what day should one begin it?

The transcendental planets have superior energies. The truth is you cannot vibrate the Kabalistic Squares of these planets and still remain your old self. Ordinarily, the energies of these planets are generational, calling on energies that rule over entire ages of people and are outside the business of individual people will definitely be overwhelming. To do this you're either a very defiance and willful person and or you have the endurance (and maybe the metaphysical template) to handle the energy. From my experience, experimenting with these planets will not be funny though they will give you superior abilities.

[ZirGohed999]

Responsibility to the responsible. Strength for the strong and weakness for the weak. Please also give me Pluto and Uranus too. Thank you bro!!!

I have learnt the hard way that talk is very cheap when one is experimenting with these planets. I don't want to be responsible for the problems of another SS that's why I said one should figure it out for themselves. I only included the ones I felt I was impressed to post. If anyone should discover the others and post it, that person won't be me. I'm pretty sure if anyone discovers them and experiment with them, they won't post them.

[T.A.O.L.]

What about the planet in our solar system that was destroyed?

If your theory is true then that must have been having a square too. Question is then, where was it placed?

[Stormblood]

I think there's something wrong with the Neptune mantra. If it's the short mantra, it goes without VAM. The long mantra would be something like AUM VAAM VIM VAUM SAU VARUNAYA NAMAH/SVAHA taking the example from all the other squares. This also follows the alliteration you can find for any planet in mantra squares, yet it's not exactly equal to the other squares. To be equal, it should be AUM VRAAM VRIM VRAUM etc

For the Earth, I'm not sure where you took the planetary name, as there are plenty of names for the planet.

For the sake of knowledge, as far as I know, in the Vedas Uranus is called Indra and Pluto is called Yama. Two deities just like Varuna is. The two short mantra could be Aum Indraya Namah/Svaha and Aum Yamaya Namah/Svaha. The mantras can be used without a square. However, consider the warnings.

Just like Neptune is the higher octave of Venus, Uranus and Pluto are higher octaves as well. Of Mercury and Mars, respectively.

Notable placements for the Earth:

• home in Taurus
• exalted in Leo
• detriment in Scorpio
• fall in Aquarius

As ZirGohed said, the Earth is always found directly opposite to the Sun, which means now the Earth is Sagittarius, which is a neutral placement as you can see. It's finally out of detriment.

Like I said in another topic I really believe that there are more square's, now your method could be true I really don't know but it makes sense a lot, don't you think that the Neptune Square is too much to handle? And in what day should one begin it?

The Neptune Square could bring depression, allergies, isolation, suffering, etc Be extremely careful when handling Neptune energies.

[luis]

I think there's something wrong with the Neptune mantra. If it's the short mantra, it goes without VAM. The long mantra would be something like AUM VAAM VIM VAUM SAU VARUNAYA NAMAH/SVAHA taking the example from all the other squares. This also follows the alliteration you can find for any planet in mantra squares, yet it's not exactly equal to the other squares. To be equal, it should be AUM VRAAM VRIM VRAUM etc

For the Earth, I'm not sure where you took the planetary name, as there are plenty of names for the planet.

For the sake of knowledge, as far as I know, in the Vedas Uranus is called Indra and Pluto is called Yama. Two deities just like Varuna is. The two short mantra could be Aum Indraya Namah/Svaha and Aum Yamaya Namah/Svaha. The mantras can be used without a square. However, consider the warnings.

Just like Neptune is the higher octave of Venus, Uranus and Pluto are higher octaves as well. Of Mercury and Mars, respectively.

Notable placements for the Earth:

• home in Taurus
• exalted in Leo
• detriment in Scorpio
• fall in Aquarius

As ZirGohed said, the Earth is always found directly opposite to the Sun, which means now the Earth is Sagittarius, which is a neutral placement as you can see. It's finally out of detriment.

Like I said in another topic I really believe that there are more square's, now your method could be true I really don't know but it makes sense a lot, don't you think that the Neptune Square is too much to handle? And in what day should one begin it?

The Neptune Square could bring depression, allergies, isolation, suffering, etc Be extremely careful when handling Neptune energies.

I know how the energy of neptune are, the governator of my mother is Neptune and now she is in a long transit of Neptune on her first house, i can see that she is more week but i admire her because she has a powerful will to fight those bad energy.

[Braun666]

Making the Uranus square and the Pluto square felt almost too easy. If someone wants them, you can email me.

What's your email dude? Or send it here kindly please... [email protected]

Will it include the mantras??

BTW did the kundalini videos I shared to you go through?? I still have them handy and could share it to you in some other way if it didn't..

[Oniro1836]

The idea is very good but i think there is an error. The traditional square are organized in a way that link the planets to the square following their speed in the sky. From the geocentrical point of view. We can't just reverse this order.

The fact is that from saturn 3x3 to the moon 9x9 all the planet are organized on crescent speed. Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Sun, Venus, Mercury, Moon.

Uranus, Neptune and Pluto are very slow planet. More slower than Saturn. So they are to be in this order:

Uranus 2x2
Neptune 1x1
Pluto 0x0

Of course this is impossible because the smallest magical square possible is 3x3.

For the Earth instead i think that is right to believe that could be a 10x10. Because in the geocentrical model the planet Earth spent only 24 hours to make a complete turn. But i'll take this with a grain of salt because is the Moon that brings the energy from the astral world to the fisical world to manifest them via Saturn. Is for this reason that the saturn square contains also the other planetary square. This is linked with chakra sistem also.

And also i will add this. I have noticed that the square are linked to the 4 direction. The cardinals points. I have immagined the connection in this way:
For the spiritual working we start from the lower part to the higher part. This is the sun rising from Est to West. The kundalini rising.
Instead for the material work we start from the right part to the left part because in this way we bring the energy of the north, black, femminine to the south, red, masculine part. This is linked to the course of the planets around the Earth.

For the mantra, were did you get "Bhuvaneshvari"? I want to know more about it.

[Stormblood]

I tried making the Neptune square myself through Agrippa's method and it turned out just right, identical to yours. I tried to do the same with the Earth square, using this pdf and the construction of the Sun square as result but I couldn't make it work. Meaning, the constant wouldn't turn out right. It became a variable rather than a constant :/ Thank goodness you decided to share yours, which I tried to reverse-engineer and I found some patterns but the only sensible one was the cross. All the others I was incapable to understand how they worked it. Reverse-engineering failed. Need more data lol

[ZirGohed999]

What about the planet in our solar system that was destroyed?

If your theory is true then that must have been having a square too. Question is then, where was it placed?

Phaeton the planet between Mars and Jupiter is destroyed and it remains are believed to be the Asteroid belt. Phaeton is nonexistent so It won't make sense to create a magical square for the planet because it doesn't exist anymore.
I'm considering Eris, a planet beyond Pluto that orbits the sun and is 27% bigger than Pluto.
I think Nergal is the personification of pluto and His wife Erishkegal personifies Eris. Eris is said to be the fiery feminine version of pluto.
Eris is the most massive and second-largest (by volume) dwarf planet in the known Solar System.
It was once considered the 10th planet but got 'demoted' alongside Pluto by scientists. If Pluto is a major planet in astrology, then it makes sense that Eris should be considered a major planet too because it's larger than Pluto therefore has concentrated energies like the major planetary bodies. I think Eris greatly Influences humans like Pluto and should have a magical square. I think the Hindu goddess Dhumavati is ereshkigal archetype.

[ZirGohed999]

I think there's something wrong with the Neptune mantra. If it's the short mantra, it goes without VAM. The long mantra would be something like AUM VAAM VIM VAUM SAU VARUNAYA NAMAH/SVAHA taking the example from all the other squares. This also follows the alliteration you can find for any planet in mantra squares, yet it's not exactly equal to the other squares. To be equal, it should be AUM VRAAM VRIM VRAUM etc

For the Earth, I'm not sure where you took the planetary name, as there are plenty of names for the planet.

For the sake of knowledge, as far as I know, in the Vedas Uranus is called Indra and Pluto is called Yama. Two deities just like Varuna is. The two short mantra could be Aum Indraya Namah/Svaha and Aum Yamaya Namah/Svaha. The mantras can be used without a square. However, consider the warnings.

Just like Neptune is the higher octave of Venus, Uranus and Pluto are higher octaves as well. Of Mercury and Mars, respectively.

Notable placements for the Earth:

• home in Taurus
• exalted in Leo
• detriment in Scorpio
• fall in Aquarius

As ZirGohed said, the Earth is always found directly opposite to the Sun, which means now the Earth is Sagittarius, which is a neutral placement as you can see. It's finally out of detriment.

Like I said in another topic I really believe that there are more square's, now your method could be true I really don't know but it makes sense a lot, don't you think that the Neptune Square is too much to handle? And in what day should one begin it?

The Neptune Square could bring depression, allergies, isolation, suffering, etc Be 6 careful when handling Neptune energies.

Personally I would stick to Aum Varunaya nama/svaha. The risk of assuming longer mantras for Neptune is incalculable. I'm yet to have a deep knowledge of Sanskrit mantras so I would just use common sense.
I was spiritually directed to the Earth mantra. My gut feeling was very strong when I came across the mantra and it just stood out to me.
The mantra for Uranus given as Aum Prajapataye Svah is correct.
Like Uranus, Prajapati is the lord of progeny and creative genius . He “exerts his heat and duplicates himself” and his “divine voice sounds like thunder”.
One of the translations of Prajapati is Indra, the lord of
thunder and lightening. A similarity to the planet Uranus can easily be seen. Uranus represents the Prometheus myth of bringing fire to earth, the bringer of change and innovation. Uranus is often associated with heat, lightening and thunder. He was also the father of Venus, the goddess of creativity. Prajapati describes Father Satan vividly and we all know Uranus is His planet
Prajapati means "lord of creatures", or "lord of all born beings". Prajapati like Uranus characterizes the original evolutionary impulse

[luis]

What about the planet in our solar system that was destroyed?

If your theory is true then that must have been having a square too. Question is then, where was it placed?

Phaeton the planet between Mars and Jupiter is destroyed and it remains are believed to be the Asteroid belt. Phaeton is nonexistent so It won't make sense to create a magical square for the planet because it doesn't exist anymore.
I'm considering Eris, a planet beyond Pluto that orbits the sun and is 27% bigger than Pluto.
I think Nergal is the personification of pluto and His wife Erishkegal personifies Eris. Eris is said to be the fiery feminine version of pluto.
Eris is the most massive and second-largest (by volume) dwarf planet in the known Solar System.
It was once considered the 10th planet but got 'demoted' alongside Pluto by scientists. If Pluto is a major planet in astrology, then it makes sense that Eris should be considered a major planet too because it's larger than Pluto therefore has concentrated energies like the major planetary bodies. I think Eris greatly Influences humans like Pluto and should have a magical square. I think the Hindu goddess Dhumavati is ereshkigal archetype.

Do you know anything about the Kubera square? It's the square for money but i didn't find enough info on the internet...
This is what i found http://welcometomyspace-sangeeta.blogsp ... m.html?m=1
If this is legit, i think it would be awesome to have a square for money.
The only thing is that this square is not of a planet but of a God or better for the mantra of the Kubera God, so maybe there can be square for every mantra and energy(?)
It's interesting to know but i'm not sure. If the square tap with number to the frequenze of the planet energy then it makes sense that we could have square that tap in different energy.

[ZirGohed999]

I tried making the Neptune square myself through Agrippa's method and it turned out just right, identical to yours. I tried to do the same with the Earth square, using this pdf and the construction of the Sun square as result but I couldn't make it work. Meaning, the constant wouldn't turn out right. It became a variable rather than a constant :/ Thank goodness you decided to share yours, which I tried to reverse-engineer and I found some patterns but the only sensible one was the cross. All the others I was incapable to understand how they worked it. Reverse-engineering failed. Need more data lol

Like I said before, I will create a resource and Images explaining the methods and patterns in an easy way on how to generate them, when I have more time.

[HP. Hoodedcobra666]

"Im so strong I can control Uranus energy! I'm a badass!" *gets run over by car*

Well, everyone is free to try whatever they want. But don't say we didn't warn you of the consequences of such.

Also, what many people do not know in their chasing of trying to feel 'badass' because they made up something, is that unfortunately, the mantras you may have online from Uranus, Neptune or Pluto, might as well be corrupted.

In the squares, one increases the energy of a planet afflicted in the 7 chakra system. Uranus, Pluto and Neptune act in different ways. To increase or decrease such energies can be a play with one's death or sanity. And the effects from such can come in ways that the person is not even aware of.

Now simply because everyone will think this is a pointless warning, and people will do these things anyway, just know, this just means to be careful.

I wonder if people still believe that stepping on coals and sitting in fire is the proof of your spiritual power. Acting like true modern day hindus...Lol

[Nick Vabzircnila]

"Responsibility to the responsible" becomes redundant when one is not actually responsible. Then it becomes "Responsibility to the irresponsible".

[HP. Hoodedcobra666]

Responsibility to the responsible. Strength for the strong and weakness for the weak. Please also give me Pluto and Uranus too. Thank you bro!!!

I have learnt the hard way that talk is very cheap when one is experimenting with these planets. I don't want to be responsible for the problems of another SS that's why I said one should figure it out for themselves. I only included the ones I felt I was impressed to post. If anyone should discover the others and post it, that person won't be me. I'm pretty sure if anyone discovers them and experiment with them, they won't post them.

You are basically telling them to use it here. While trying to get your tail out of this and pretend that drinking poison is some sort of very clever thing to do.

"Here I hand you a radiating element to hold in your backyard that kills people by radiating in such a way that causes them cancer. Now I'm not responsible if you misuse it. But for some reason I believe I simply had to bring it to you, especially when I know you don't have a nuclear plant to hold it in but only a cloth of paper. Remember the truly wise are to take the plutonium and keep it in their pocket if they wish to attain salvation".

"Do a working to increase your willpower" aka "build a little hut, maybe it will help to keep the radioactive elements away from you for your safety". The Gods will help you aka "well if you fuck up and start getting manifestations of three legs, four hands, and three feet, please go to the professionals to waste their time to save you, they should, right? I mean that's what I think they will do but ANW!"

"And remember this is not my fault, I take no responsibility. Thx!"

However your math skills are admirable, that I have to agree on. Reading about the math on it was fairly interesting.

Someone doing tens of thousands of vibrations of Neptune Mantras, I guess we can use it on the jews one day to see what happens to them.

But anyone here using it...Well good luck.

I guess we will have many incarnations of Napoleon in the next 110 days or how long these squares are. That is if they are not run over by trucks.

Also know if people fuck up their head, it's from you that the Gods will be asking for explanations. Just bear that in mind.

[Lydia]

Just because people get knowledge from the Gods, does not mean it should be posted for everyone. ZirGohed should've probably just ignored the original question when someone asked about them and not replied at all. Because there are many people who think they are more powerful and advanced than they are and they assume that they can handle the energy. Yet they are not advanced enough to even communicate with the Gods...

Guys, if you want more advancement and power, then do the meditations on the JoS, and once you are able to communicate clearly with the Gods, then you can get meditations from them, ones that they know are suited for you.

Why do a giant square, when you can use runes to improve the areas of your life?

Neptune rules insanity and delusions, no matter how well you affirm it. Think about that.

[luis]

Just because people get knowledge from the Gods, does not mean it should be posted for everyone. ZirGohed should've probably just ignored the original question when someone asked about them and not replied at all. Because there are many people who think they are more powerful and advanced than they are and they assume that they can handle the energy. Yet they are not advanced enough to even communicate with the Gods...

Guys, if you want more advancement and power, then do the meditations on the JoS, and once you are able to communicate clearly with the Gods, then you can get meditations from them, ones that they know are suited for you.

Why do a giant square, when you can use runes to improve the areas of your life?

Neptune rules insanity and delusions, no matter how well you affirm it. Think about that.

I wanted to know about those square just because i want to learn new spiritual knowlaedge but i wasn't going to do them...even because i re-read the page on Jos about what those 3 planet's rule and it scared me lol and there are a lot of people in my life that have a lot of Neptune energy and it takes a lot of willpower to not become crazy and/or drug/alchool adicted or worse. They may be powerful but like you all said they are not for everyone especially a beginner.

[HP. Hoodedcobra666]

I have told people openly what is going to happen if you use "Some" information. Not all spiritual information is GOOD information.

As for people who want to try their lack and gamble their idiotic soul and life, expect nobody to save you from this. Nobody will waste time on people who self inflict destruction upon themselves.

[ZirGohed999]

HP HoodedCobra666, I thank you for these insights. I think my problem is I'm too defiance to a fault.
Sometimes all one needs is common sense.

[HP. Hoodedcobra666]

HP HoodedCobra666, I thank you for these insights. I think my problem is I'm too defiance to a fault.
Sometimes all one needs is common sense.

Your search wasn't 'bad', people need to research things, and the calculations were also brilliant. But how you presented it and the reasons for such were extremely bad. And many of your statements are extremely inaccurate such as the "Ruler of Taurus being the earth".

But the thing is, the energies of Pluto, Uranus and Neptune are generally energies one must not feedle with. As they can create rampant changes. The changes may come lifetimes later, or be unidentifiable, unpredictable, or even really bad.

These planets are quite 'remorseless' when it comes to what is good for us 'humans'.

Cancer and all sorts of other diseases such as insanity are also ruled by these planets. Same as disastrous life events. Hurting from these is not cool or just menial, one can lose their life, sanity, or more.

The Runes which correspond to these 3 planetary energies (well, their types of manifestations) are way safer to work, and one can work them in peace of mind that they will only experience the positive side effects. One can also find these correspondences online.

[T.A.O.L.]

What about the planet in our solar system that was destroyed?

If your theory is true then that must have been having a square too. Question is then, where was it placed?

Phaeton the planet between Mars and Jupiter is destroyed and it remains are believed to be the Asteroid belt. Phaeton is nonexistent so It won't make sense to create a magical square for the planet because it doesn't exist anymore.
I'm considering Eris, a planet beyond Pluto that orbits the sun and is 27% bigger than Pluto.
I think Nergal is the personification of pluto and His wife Erishkegal personifies Eris. Eris is said to be the fiery feminine version of pluto.
Eris is the most massive and second-largest (by volume) dwarf planet in the known Solar System.
It was once considered the 10th planet but got 'demoted' alongside Pluto by scientists. If Pluto is a major planet in astrology, then it makes sense that Eris should be considered a major planet too because it's larger than Pluto therefore has concentrated energies like the major planetary bodies. I think Eris greatly Influences humans like Pluto and should have a magical square. I think the Hindu goddess Dhumavati is ereshkigal archetype.

You clearly misunderstood. Here are the planets that were named in the intro post.
"..matrix are Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Sun, Venus, Mercury, Moon, Earth, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto.."

So you calculated it all without taking into account what number that other planet would have had.



Dont get me wrong here, but I agree with HP hoodedcobra, and I think it would be safest for all of us if this topic is deleted from the forums. So people that may stumble across it dont end up taking such a huge risk.

[ZirGohed999]

What do you think about creating spiritual magical squares for other purposes for example a thoughtform? I'm willing to create spiritual magical squares for other goals.

[HP. Hoodedcobra666]

What about the planet in our solar system that was destroyed?

If your theory is true then that must have been having a square too. Question is then, where was it placed?

Phaeton the planet between Mars and Jupiter is destroyed and it remains are believed to be the Asteroid belt. Phaeton is nonexistent so It won't make sense to create a magical square for the planet because it doesn't exist anymore.
I'm considering Eris, a planet beyond Pluto that orbits the sun and is 27% bigger than Pluto.
I think Nergal is the personification of pluto and His wife Erishkegal personifies Eris. Eris is said to be the fiery feminine version of pluto.
Eris is the most massive and second-largest (by volume) dwarf planet in the known Solar System.
It was once considered the 10th planet but got 'demoted' alongside Pluto by scientists. If Pluto is a major planet in astrology, then it makes sense that Eris should be considered a major planet too because it's larger than Pluto therefore has concentrated energies like the major planetary bodies. I think Eris greatly Influences humans like Pluto and should have a magical square. I think the Hindu goddess Dhumavati is ereshkigal archetype.

You clearly misunderstood. Here are the planets that were named in the intro post.
"..matrix are Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Sun, Venus, Mercury, Moon, Earth, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto.."

So you calculated it all without taking into account what number that other planet would have had.



Dont get me wrong here, but I agree with HP hoodedcobra, and I think it would be safest for all of us if this topic is deleted from the forums. So people that may stumble across it dont end up taking such a huge risk.

It could be deleted, but why? So that we can have the conspiracy crap going like few people believe?

Maybe people need to spend 150 days doing something that someone just randomly gave them to do online, try this, try that, sometimes with zero foundation?

People sometimes need to feel stronk by telling those whom they consider authority that they have found some very k00l stuff. Who am I or anyone else to tell them otherwise?

Responsibility to the (Ir)responsible!11!!1

Next time, we can also allow a Rabbi to post some meditations here...After all it's spiritual knowledge right...But it has to sound k00l or kewl enough.

If it's not what we consider KOOL and what we like to hear, such as bullshit dreaming, it must be wrong information. If it sounds KOOL enough it's good for us to use, and whomever says the contrary is a turd. This is the l4w of k00l.

If it's KOOL who is anyone to judge it...LOL

On a serious note, for me it's a waste of time to bother further with such. I bothered way more than enough.

[Cacique Satanás]

Just because people get knowledge from the Gods, does not mean it should be posted for everyone. ZirGohed should've probably just ignored the original question when someone asked about them and not replied at all. Because there are many people who think they are more powerful and advanced than they are and they assume that they can handle the energy. Yet they are not advanced enough to even communicate with the Gods...

Guys, if you want more advancement and power, then do the meditations on the JoS, and once you are able to communicate clearly with the Gods, then you can get meditations from them, ones that they know are suited for you.

Why do a giant square, when you can use runes to improve the areas of your life?

Neptune rules insanity and delusions, no matter how well you affirm it. Think about that.

Hi Lydia, in my chart, Chiron and Pluto are in my eight house. Chiron is in Scorpio and Pluto is in Saggitarius.
Using Pluto's energy will activate my Chiron and Pluto and give me terrible effects,right?Such as giving me a faster death.

But Pluto is well aspected in my chart also.