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Re: Martial Art is Life

Postby Stormblood » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:30 pm

hailourtruegod wrote:Wing chun is a joke. You will only win against someone who doesn't know how to fight.. like whatsoever if that.. It's based on just looking like you're in a movie because of how "cool" it looks. You're better off looking for something else.


Are you aware that Bruce Lee studied Wing Chun when he was a child?

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Re: Martial Art is Life

Postby Egon » Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:28 am

He did and his own opinion was that Wing Chun is all style and no efficacy.

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hailourtruegod wrote:Wing chun is a joke. You will only win against someone who doesn't know how to fight.. like whatsoever if that.. It's based on just looking like you're in a movie because of how "cool" it looks. You're better off looking for something else.


Are you aware that Bruce Lee studied Wing Chun when he was a child?

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Re: Martial Art is Life

Postby SoulSnipes » Sun May 06, 2018 6:18 pm

the thing with athames is that once you invoke the gods you know who your enemy is and its very hard to miss on your own part, with proper commitment ofcourse lulz
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Re: Martial Art is Life

Postby hailourtruegod » Thu May 17, 2018 12:59 pm

Notice how the mma fighters don't take these weak chin er... I mean.. wing chun masters seriously. The first mma dude isn't even in peak shape or looks like he's as skilled as some of the ones you see in the UFC but even then he plays around with his opponent.

Like I said wing chun is a joke and will only work against someone who can't fight at all. When someone tried to give me an example of this style on me I saw that a good hook or two can easily beat someone who uses this technique and looking at other people use it I stick to this claim.

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Re: Martial Art is Life

Postby hailourtruegod » Thu May 17, 2018 1:06 pm

Hey Egon the video I put they talked about a tai chi master being beaten easily before this. I wonder if these are the people you were talking in your initial post that made it look bad on purpose. I'll stick to what I say about wing chun since there are countless of examples to back my claim besides this video but obviously I support Tai chi 100% since it can be proven it is an essential skill to learn.
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Re: Martial Art is Life

Postby Stormblood » Fri May 18, 2018 6:16 am

SoulSnipes wrote:the thing with athames is that once you invoke the gods you know who your enemy is and its very hard to miss on your own part, with proper commitment ofcourse lulz


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Re: Martial Art is Life

Postby Egon » Fri May 18, 2018 11:23 am

That's exactly what I meant. Many may not even be frauds but they don't know what they're doing either.

hailourtruegod wrote:Hey Egon the video I put they talked about a tai chi master being beaten easily before this. I wonder if these are the people you were talking in your initial post that made it look bad on purpose. I'll stick to what I say about wing chun since there are countless of examples to back my claim besides this video but obviously I support Tai chi 100% since it can be proven it is an essential skill to learn.

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Re: Martial Art is Life

Postby Aquarius » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:16 pm

Do you guys recommend boxing? I read everywhere that once you start sparring those blows at the head will damage your brain in time...
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Re: Martial Art is Life

Postby Egon » Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:26 pm

Aquarius wrote:Do you guys recommend boxing? I read everywhere that once you start sparring those blows at the head will damage your brain in time...

The gloves do protect the hand at the cost of damaging the brain, which is stupid if you think in mma for example you can hit with bare feet and knees.

This video is about this issue in MMA but the same applies to boxing:
https://youtu.be/cVJbmVUtQqA?t=173

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Re: Martial Art is Life

Postby Aquarius » Sun Nov 18, 2018 2:41 am

Egon wrote:
Aquarius wrote:Do you guys recommend boxing? I read everywhere that once you start sparring those blows at the head will damage your brain in time...

The gloves do protect the hand at the cost of damaging the brain, which is stupid if you think in mma for example you can hit with bare feet and knees.

This video is about this issue in MMA but the same applies to boxing:
https://youtu.be/cVJbmVUtQqA?t=173
That makes a lot of sense. So maybe grappling martial arts like judo or jiu jitsu are better if you don't want problems?
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Re: Martial Art is Life

Postby Egon » Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:09 am

Jiu-Jitsu over Judo. Taekwondo as well won't bring health problems. Also you will want ear protection for Jiu-Jitsu if you don't want your ears looking like cabbages.

Aquarius wrote:That makes a lot of sense. So maybe grappling martial arts like judo or jiu jitsu are better if you don't want problems?

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Re: Martial Art is Life

Postby Derpy » Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:40 am

I enjoy the karate exhale-left-punch. inhale. exhale-right-punch. inhale. I can really get a trance rythem going. but I mainly practice hard kicks on my boxing bag without controlling my energy. just because I think they are superior for self defense.
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Re: Martial Art is Life

Postby Aquarius » Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:58 am

Egon wrote:Jiu-Jitsu over Judo. Taekwondo as well won't bring health problems. Also you will want ear protection for Jiu-Jitsu if you don't want your ears looking like cabbages.

Aquarius wrote:That makes a lot of sense. So maybe grappling martial arts like judo or jiu jitsu are better if you don't want problems?
I’d love to do taekwondo but unfortunately my hips don’t stretch and have some kind of problem which makes them blocked with limited mobility so doing middle splits is impossible at the moment:( though I will look into jou jitsu:) thanks for your help:)
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Re: Martial Art is Life

Postby Stormblood » Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:30 pm

Aquarius wrote:
Egon wrote:Jiu-Jitsu over Judo. Taekwondo as well won't bring health problems. Also you will want ear protection for Jiu-Jitsu if you don't want your ears looking like cabbages.

Aquarius wrote:That makes a lot of sense. So maybe grappling martial arts like judo or jiu jitsu are better if you don't want problems?
I’d love to do taekwondo but unfortunately my hips don’t stretch and have some kind of problem which makes them blocked with limited mobility so doing middle splits is impossible at the moment:( though I will look into jou jitsu:) thanks for your help:)

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Re: Martial Art is Life

Postby Ninja 666 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:15 pm

Aquarius wrote:
Egon wrote:
Aquarius wrote:Do you guys recommend boxing? I read everywhere that once you start sparring those blows at the head will damage your brain in time...

The gloves do protect the hand at the cost of damaging the brain, which is stupid if you think in mma for example you can hit with bare feet and knees.

This video is about this issue in MMA but the same applies to boxing:
https://youtu.be/cVJbmVUtQqA?t=173
That makes a lot of sense. So maybe grappling martial arts like judo or jiu jitsu are better if you don't want problems?


You should definitely do Jiu Jitsu, and with ear protection like Egon says. Make sure it's Brazilian Jiu Jitsu or Gracie Jiu Jitsu as these are the best. You should add Boxing and Muay Thai for striking. Or learn from someone who incorporate all these styles into a Vale Tudo / MMA / No Holds Barred fighting style. These styles are some of the best for real life situations.

In Boxing and Muay Thai you don't have to hit hard when you're sparring. You can go like 30% of full strength so you get a feel for it. Because of accidents, you still get hit from time to time, but nothing serious. And you can adjust this as you see fit.

In a street fight; I've had friends who've broken their knuckles, and friends who hasn't. All practiced. It all depends on your bones hardness and conditioning. And how good you punch. With Brazilian / Gracie Jiu Jitsu you won't have to bother with this. But it's still a risk because the style is all about getting your opponent to the ground, and to do this you need the take-down or getting close to their bodies. So when you're close up to their body is when they reach their hand around yours and stab you with their knife. This isn't simulation so it's like chaotic stabbing. All it takes is a little bit of timing. And that sucks. So you should definitely have some striking game and Boxing and Muay Thai are some of the best. In Muay Thai you also use your elbows and knees, and learn how to strike from the upper clinch (When your holding unto your opponents head, arms or torso).

I've heard Kali, stick fighting, is good. And I've heard Silat, knife fighting, is good. You can check out all the styles on YouTube and read about them online. You can also check fights where they have compared styles against each other. This is one way of testing it, but take into account the fighter himself, as some are good some are bad. A master of whatever style should be able to beat, or at least have the skill set to do so, any other style. As a master must understand fighting at it's core. When it gets to the physical: Brazilian / Gracie Jiu Jitsu, Boxing, Muay Thai are some of the best.

For the advanced Martial Arts applying your Chi and all this HP Mageson and HPS Maxine is talking about, you should look into it. If you combine the physical with the spiritual, and also the mental game of fighting, aimed at street fights (this would be the best scenario to practice for self defense) you should be pretty though.

In Ancient Greece, they practiced Pankration / Pammachon, meaning "all of power" / "total combat", you can read about it online. It incorporated Boxing and Wrestling and other variations. Some seem very brutal like eye gouging etc, but this can be later period when Christianity took a hold. For a culture that valued beauty, and had the Pentathlon events which incorporated spear tossing, running and so forth as these skills was useful in battle and war. It would be stupid to hold events that gauge out the eyes of your opponents. Wouldn't be much of a line up in the phalanx nor a good model for the statues.

The Greeks also trained their soldiers in Pankration, the Spartans used it, some of the best Athenian soldiers where distinguished pankratiast, and it was also a part of the phalanx of Alexander the Great.

The Greco-Roman Wrestling was used as a way of strengthening the body, but today Brazilian / Gracie Jiu Jitsu is best for self-defence because of the submissions and techniques to fighting bigger opponents. If you look at Boxers they are some of the best trained athletes in the world. And Wrestlers are also tip top shape.

There is cautions to take when choosing a gym, because of the world we live in with the Jewish Spell and sub-humans, but also some are not very healthy. Hit hard to the head and so forth. So be careful. Health is the most important, but you must be ready to fight in a real life situation and not just "closed simulated circuits". You should also read HP Mageson's comments on this thread.
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Re: Martial Art is Life

Postby Ninja 666 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:01 pm

Aquarius wrote:
Egon wrote:
Aquarius wrote:Do you guys recommend boxing? I read everywhere that once you start sparring those blows at the head will damage your brain in time...

The gloves do protect the hand at the cost of damaging the brain, which is stupid if you think in mma for example you can hit with bare feet and knees.

This video is about this issue in MMA but the same applies to boxing:
https://youtu.be/cVJbmVUtQqA?t=173
That makes a lot of sense. So maybe grappling martial arts like judo or jiu jitsu are better if you don't want problems?


BTW. If you're thinking about practicing any of this, I do not recommend any form or style that calls itself "Pankration" or "Pammachon" in todays society.

I do recommend the other styles I've mentioned though and combining them.
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Re: Martial Art is Life

Postby Norse 88 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:59 am

Personally I have always felt that the most important aspect of the martial arts is self-cultivation. If the development of one's own mental, physical, and spiritual faculties always remain as the highest priority one seeks to achieve, then the style or type of martial art, along with its combative potential, becomes less of a focus, and the readiness towards applying itself as an art form takes leadership.
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Re: Martial Art is Life

Postby Ninja 666 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:58 am

* Because of accidents, you still get hit hard from time to time, but nothing serious.
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Re: Martial Art is Life

Postby Norse 88 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:16 pm

Furthermore, just a few hours ago I became cognizant of the fact that the choreographed set of movements which compose the form taught in tai chi (loosely akin to the poomsae or kata in TKD or aidkido and karate respectively) is a sequence of exactly 108 movements. The relevance of this to occult numerology is obvious. I'd appreciate any feedback about similar observations or knowledge from others about this kind of thing or any other comments on the links between the martial arts and occult wisdom. (All eastern arts as I understand it was developed from true occult knowledge and spiritual practices - possibly known simply as normal knowledge and healthy practices back then - along with Sanskrit as the commonly spoken language etc many millennia ago, and over time this filtered down to what is known as eastern martial arts and practice today, right?)

As far as I know, the practice of tai chi claims to be fixed in the cultivation of internal energy and health. To me it has noticeable similarities to some of the breathing techniques or postures in hatha yoga and it also has a few relationships to some of the power meditations we practice. This is especially when meditation promotes feeling chi (I'm going to refer to vril/witchpower/bioelectricity and so forth as simply chi/internal energy from here out) is the mainstay of the objective behind practice (e.g., the laying still phase at the end of hatha/kundalini yoga; opening and strengthening the palm chakras; the hexagradiator etc - tai chi attempts to teach a similar feeling of chi through inward focus coupled with a strong emphasis on inhale/exhale during specific movements of the body). That being said though, tai chi is still far less effective or direct (and subsequently probably much safer to the general public) than any of the power meditations or magick practices shared by the Joy of Satan. Granted, I haven't done all the meditations or works taught here. I have honestly worked with the beginner and most if not all intermediate practices at some stage so far. I've also used the 6 month warfare training manual and the 40 day empowerment program; so to be fair I am basing all my comparative reasoning thus far based on these grounds. I very much welcome rational counter-arguments - I've been wrong before. I want to make it clear that I'm speaking in consideration of both my skills and my rooms for improvement. Albeit, back to martial arts.

The tai chi practitioners with many years of practice (who honour titles like Grand Master and so on) have indicated to me directly either by conversation or in their writings that their comprehension of internal energy and their acquired skillful control over it is worlds apart and far behind from what JoS would seemingly have any of its freshly dedicated members equipped with as a degree of skill which, properly considered, would likely be viewed by anyone here as simply the basic foundations of spiritual practice, and we are encouraged if not guaranteed to get there in usually no more than perhaps 6 months of committed effort from scratch. It's pretty astounding. Tai chi comparatively requires likely many, many years of practice to achieve something close or similar - can anyone say otherwise? Would greatly appreciate feedback on that.

The 40 days of empowerment that HP HC made also teach an individual about their subtle energy and how to nurture it beyond what some of my personal friends, for example, (who are non SS, nor people demonstrating any 'gift' with psychic talent or otherwise to my knowledge) have not even closely grasped after 4-5+ years of dedicated martial arts training in both internal energy arts as well as more physically competitive training. Only one person I know (who is not an instructor and is relatively young compared to internal arts masters - he's under 25) has any real comprehension of chi from my own observation. However, he has been training wing chun kung-fu, taekwondo, qi gong and basic muscle relaxation meditations for more than half his life without pause (10 - 13 years). His skills do not exceed simply an awareness of his own chi through experience, however. Again, the power meditations have this developing and noticeable in maybe a few days depending on the person. It's blowing me away, haha. To think of decades spent getting what is rightly attainable by a degree of what could possibly be a thousandth of the time. It really emphasises the power of knowledge, in my opinion. Though maybe everyone here simply has dues paid in previous lives of slow progress and much effort, to which we now can build on rapidly, after all, there aren't a huge number of us and the trend certainly leans towards quality not quantity in JoS and Satanism on the whole. It would also go without saying that the extent to which the average SS would know the potential skills one can propagate with sufficient chi and psychic development is beyond anything I've read or discussed from tai-chi practitioners, they also expressly forbid using the energy to harm or serve oneself selfishly. This is an obvious line in the sand separating rightful spiritual self defense - a.k.a something like a psychic castle doctrine - and the lunatic self-destructive altruistic compusive behaviour that welcomes onslaught without any reasonable reproach. Tai chi also seems to falter into the rationale that the universe is one energetic pool with no separation, therefore we are all one and should be submissive to what the universe gives us - a deadly over simplification which undermines sensible autonomy and places communistic jewy undertones over them instead. These distinctions mark tai chi as inferior spiritual school of though which I've painted it as so far. Though it is highly likely that if one were highly advanced like this, then they wouldn't reveal such sensitive info publicly anyway - certainly not to someone as relentlessly inquisitive as myself, who is not even a grand master yet or anything! Shit! Haha. Nah, they're titles are fine I'm just taking the piss.

I'm not saying martial arts has no place for serious advancement or the SS. I state the opposite: It is definitely a strong compliment to hatha yoga in regards to chi cultivation and keeping the body supple and strong. It nurtures mental disciplin, and keeps alot of experiential knowledge readily available through physical practice with like minded individuals, which is something JoS doesn't readily promote or encourage (fair enough as it is), we must all mostly do our work without any class mates to directly interact with. So martial arts can compensate for this a bit (not that it's needed, but you may be considerably good at cave dwelling solo tasks, such as myself, and socialising can sometimes be difficult without some interesting context like the martial arts to coax you outside) To convey a blunt message: it is very difficult to find others (in physical interactions) outside of JoS who can readily discuss with you some aspects of chi energy from their own direct experience just like you can, rather than only having a philosophical belief in internal energy, which is something a lot of self-proclaimed spiritual yogis and psychedelic festival patrons are encompassed by. Other than that there is usually only the forms of non-acceptance or disbelief from the greater consensus of the western population. These reasons are definitely worth consideration in my opinion.

Anyway, I really let that one go off on a tangent. Let's get back to the 108 movements point I made earlier. Any thoughts?

I also really appreciated the post earlier which illustrated the swastika shape drawn by advanced taekwondo poomsae. That's great.

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Re: Martial Art is Life

Postby Aquarius » Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:21 pm

Ninja 666 wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
Egon wrote:The gloves do protect the hand at the cost of damaging the brain, which is stupid if you think in mma for example you can hit with bare feet and knees.

This video is about this issue in MMA but the same applies to boxing:
https://youtu.be/cVJbmVUtQqA?t=173
That makes a lot of sense. So maybe grappling martial arts like judo or jiu jitsu are better if you don't want problems?


You should definitely do Jiu Jitsu, and with ear protection like Egon says. Make sure it's Brazilian Jiu Jitsu or Gracie Jiu Jitsu as these are the best. You should add Boxing and Muay Thai for striking. Or learn from someone who incorporate all these styles into a Vale Tudo / MMA / No Holds Barred fighting style. These styles are some of the best for real life situations.

In Boxing and Muay Thai you don't have to hit hard when you're sparring. You can go like 30% of full strength so you get a feel for it. Because of accidents, you still get hit from time to time, but nothing serious. And you can adjust this as you see fit.

In a street fight; I've had friends who've broken their knuckles, and friends who hasn't. All practiced. It all depends on your bones hardness and conditioning. And how good you punch. With Brazilian / Gracie Jiu Jitsu you won't have to bother with this. But it's still a risk because the style is all about getting your opponent to the ground, and to do this you need the take-down or getting close to their bodies. So when you're close up to their body is when they reach their hand around yours and stab you with their knife. This isn't simulation so it's like chaotic stabbing. All it takes is a little bit of timing. And that sucks. So you should definitely have some striking game and Boxing and Muay Thai are some of the best. In Muay Thai you also use your elbows and knees, and learn how to strike from the upper clinch (When your holding unto your opponents head, arms or torso).

I've heard Kali, stick fighting, is good. And I've heard Silat, knife fighting, is good. You can check out all the styles on YouTube and read about them online. You can also check fights where they have compared styles against each other. This is one way of testing it, but take into account the fighter himself, as some are good some are bad. A master of whatever style should be able to beat, or at least have the skill set to do so, any other style. As a master must understand fighting at it's core. When it gets to the physical: Brazilian / Gracie Jiu Jitsu, Boxing, Muay Thai are some of the best.

For the advanced Martial Arts applying your Chi and all this HP Mageson and HPS Maxine is talking about, you should look into it. If you combine the physical with the spiritual, and also the mental game of fighting, aimed at street fights (this would be the best scenario to practice for self defense) you should be pretty though.

In Ancient Greece, they practiced Pankration / Pammachon, meaning "all of power" / "total combat", you can read about it online. It incorporated Boxing and Wrestling and other variations. Some seem very brutal like eye gouging etc, but this can be later period when Christianity took a hold. For a culture that valued beauty, and had the Pentathlon events which incorporated spear tossing, running and so forth as these skills was useful in battle and war. It would be stupid to hold events that gauge out the eyes of your opponents. Wouldn't be much of a line up in the phalanx nor a good model for the statues.

The Greeks also trained their soldiers in Pankration, the Spartans used it, some of the best Athenian soldiers where distinguished pankratiast, and it was also a part of the phalanx of Alexander the Great.

The Greco-Roman Wrestling was used as a way of strengthening the body, but today Brazilian / Gracie Jiu Jitsu is best for self-defence because of the submissions and techniques to fighting bigger opponents. If you look at Boxers they are some of the best trained athletes in the world. And Wrestlers are also tip top shape.

There is cautions to take when choosing a gym, because of the world we live in with the Jewish Spell and sub-humans, but also some are not very healthy. Hit hard to the head and so forth. So be careful. Health is the most important, but you must be ready to fight in a real life situation and not just "closed simulated circuits". You should also read HP Mageson's comments on this thread.
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