How to make a woman feel extreme lust?

[TopoftheAbyss]

V12POWER is right. Use the spells when there is a potentiality between you and that person (which is typically very common). "Spiritual rape" is not a factor here. Anyone who tries to "spiritual rape" will get their shit kicked in.

Do you think the average person in say 1920 hesitated to go up to someone they found attractive? No. So why is using a spell bad when both are based on principles of manifestation and a spell will create a more harmonious result, cutting through bullshit?

Yes, there are 12 Signs, 12 Houses and 10 Planets. And someone with Venus in Aries 8th House for example is generally going to find a partner supplying consent forms and a writ every time they have sex to be a contemptible and annoying weakling. There is no one size fits all when it comes to sexual interaction.

Part of the demoralization campaign against Magick has also its roots here in other obvious sources that are standard for a certain generational cohort. Stop taking 'advice' from twitter and idiots like incels.m3 that has nothing to do with anything on the site or anything to do with any other celestial disciplines. Satanists paying attention to the opinions of damaged, powerless and worthless chandala people is insanity. A worm might seem 'grounded' compared to an eagle, but regardless, a worm can only see things from its vantage point and is vulnerable to anything. An eagle that acts like a worm burying itself in the dirt ends up being more worthless and powerless than a worm.

It literally is a sacrifice of xian origin, just because you enjoy eating it doesn't mean it isn't a sacrifice. And just because you enjoy eating meat doesn't make animal suffering okay. Like I said, there is little difference between you and a jew. In a sane society you'll be put in a concentration camp.

You have really gone off the deep end here. Thanksgiving is just a celebration of the colonies, it doesn't even have to involve meat. And what do you propose a species with a stomach acid more potent than a dog do? Eat leaves and 'Israeli cow cells' as per rebbe Magestein's advice? Is veganism your latest shortcut in want of doing anything?

Find the thread about thanksgiving and read my posts.

[TopoftheAbyss]

I was thinking the way he insults people's character over personal disagreements is a bit similar to you, although his insults always just come down to "you're worse than the enemy", whereas yours are a bit more varied.
I think you're a lot more pleasant to interact with though compared to him. I'd rather be told to jump in a swamp than be told my values are "Judeo-Christian", as he said when I expressed my opinions in a thread about prostitution. I'm a bit hardcore when it comes to love and monogamy, and he felt offended. Everyone else talked about it in a decent, mature manner, while he just went and called me what I hate the most.

Some will say I’m the crazy kook on the forum that you have to look out for, but this intellectual giant is calling me a subhuman Jew for eating a turkey on thanksgiving. You have to wonder what is being put in the water to make someone think this way.

I'm still a bit salty over that; maybe I should try splashing around in a swamp for a bit to wash it off? Although I wouldn't want to run into him there if he decides to go as well, so maybe not.

You shouldn’t do that. The swamp is for generally foul people. I think you are a good man. Those murky waters are all theirs to have. Stay away from these influences.

So he belongs in the swamp because his opinions and attitude really annoyed you. It seems your opinion and attitude also really annoyed him, does that mean you belong in the swamp as well, or do you not? Please elaborate, as I'm curious about your reasoning here; although I think I'm slowly starting to understand it.

No it doesn’t. These people don’t get to decide who goes into the swamp because they are already there! Imagine inmates running the asylum and choosing who gets admitted, it’s asinine.

FancyMancy's humor is rather funny, although she mentioned something about not having balls recently, so I'm not sure about her being a guy. Not like that matters here, though. Or does it? If such a thing were the true, would that affect the way you think of FancyMancy? If so, is that in some way related to the annoying vibe jrvan gave you?

I was under the impression that FM was a he not a she, and if “he” doesn’t have testicles it doesn’t matter because I feel the same either way. They are a veteran SS that is usually insightful, and who is jrvan? Nobody.

Now if you would excuse me good sir there are some rougarous that I have to respond to.

It's not your job to police peoples' behavior

It is if I want it to be. Somebody has to take out the trash.

and the only reason this has dragged on for so long is because you couldn't handle being called out and confronted on your remarks. Shit got too real for you. That doesn't make me a woman, it makes you a little boy who got put in their place then decided to lash out in rage, crying, full hissy fit mode.

Who is that lashing out and having the hissy fit? I will refer you to the original reply here where you are crying about what a big meanie I am for joking with you.

Not everyone is meant to be alpha, and there is nothing wrong with being beta contrary to toxic popular belief.

There is something wrong with being a beta it means that... you’re a beta. Betas get no respect from anyone which is why I could pick on you in the first place, can’t do that to an alpha.

If being beta was such a high crime against nature then there wouldn't be betas.

We live in a very unnatural society so this point is invalid.

If everyone was alpha then we would have no leadership principle, and there would be no way for society or any group at all to manifest because everyone would refuse to follow anyone.

This is not a zero sum game. If someone is not an alpha it doesn’t automatically mean that they are a beta. There’s lots of room in the middle. But you are very clearly a BETA.

my ideas are too much for you to comprehend doesn't make them wrong, and they have nothing to do with my behavior.

Your ideas are too pathetic and gay for anyone to take seriously. A society cannot be based on jrvan beta philosophy. Now go ahead Aristotle. Spit some more of that wisdom you have.

Shaming me is not going to change me because I don't respond to shaming language in that way. I'm going to continue being the way I am, and there's nothing you can do about it. Get used to me, prick.

I say the same to you HP jrvan. Fight your own battles, which leads me to this final point.

You did the ultimate beta coward move and hid behind your wife when confronted.

This to me is the worst part about all of this. Imagine you and tabby were walking down the street, and then suddenly a man with weapon walked up and threatened you, would you throw her in front of you and make tabby eat the bullet? Because that’s what you just did in this thread.

You made her respond and get involved so that it makes me look bad because everyone knows that you can’t hit a woman, and I didn’t because that’s not who I am.

You are a very sneaky man Jvran. You thought I was stupid and that you were going to get one over on me, when the truth is that I know all of the swamp tactics that you use so I know how to avoid them.

Have you ever seen the classic cartoon “Charlie brown”? You sound the adults in that show every time you respond to me. Womp womp womp womp womp
https://youtu.be/q_BU5hR9gXE

Congrats this reply to me isn't deceiving and lying like the others. But you're still a subhuman and Jews are more capable of truth than you.

[tabby]

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The swamp is for generally foul people.
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Now if you would excuse me good sir there are some rougarous that I have to respond to.

It's not your job to police peoples' behavior

It is if I want it to be. Somebody has to take out the trash.
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Not everyone is meant to be alpha, and there is nothing wrong with being beta contrary to toxic popular belief.

There is something wrong with being a beta it means that... you’re a beta. Betas get no respect from anyone which is why I could pick on you in the first place, can’t do that to an alpha.
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But you are very clearly a BETA.
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Your ideas are too pathetic and gay for anyone to take seriously. A society cannot be based on jrvan beta philosophy. Now go ahead Aristotle. Spit some more of that wisdom you have.

Shaming me is not going to change me because I don't respond to shaming language in that way. I'm going to continue being the way I am, and there's nothing you can do about it. Get used to me, prick.

I say the same to you HP jrvan. Fight your own battles, which leads me to this final point.

You did the ultimate beta coward move and hid behind your wife when confronted.

This to me is the worst part about all of this. Imagine you and tabby were walking down the street, and then suddenly a man with weapon walked up and threatened you, would you throw her in front of you and make tabby eat the bullet? Because that’s what you just did in this thread.

You made her respond and get involved so that it makes me look bad because everyone knows that you can’t hit a woman, and I didn’t because that’s not who I am.

You are a very sneaky man Jvran. You thought I was stupid and that you were going to get one over on me, when the truth is that I know all of the swamp tactics that you use so I know how to avoid them.
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Care to explain what the fuck a rougarous is? What’s next on the list of things you want to insult us with?

Are you seriously claiming that an SS is forcing another SS to make a response to you?

I’ve seen this before in people brainwashed by enemy filth. When they are faced with meeting a healthy couple, they are always without hesitation blatantly sexist to the woman AND the man.

It goes along the lines of something like this: ”the woman is being controlled by the man because it’s impossible for a woman to stand up and defend herself and her partner when either one or both is being insulted. That’s a man’s job so the man must be a coward.”

Basically suppressing both of the sexes, and this horrible logic forced on people is like punching a brick wall sometimes. It’s the kind of thing that makes someone like me want to rip my hair out from the absurdity of it.

(I’ve no experience on how such people react to same-sex couples so I won’t touch on that).

jrvan and I as partners have each others backs. A concept the enemy works to destroy because it shows a kind of unity between a male and female working together to help advance and protect one another.

You, SouthernWhiteGentile, still have christian teachings clouding your judgement whether you are aware of it or not.

I know this better now thanks to a sermon my Guardian Demon showed me just yesterday after responding to you.

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=24602

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We managed to escape xianity in the Middle Ages, but as for it's mental leftovers, we are only on the beginning steps.

The irony of the situation is that when something like this is taking place, one may be evolving since they are meditating, but essentially, the mind is not getting more free, or more original. One is increasing power but is revolving back into mindsets that are essentially toxic to the person, and then, one also fortifies these with meditation, creating their own perception faulty perception of things. This then is exported as a general wrong relation with reality itself, and the power developed from meditation traps these people in these beliefs.

Imagine if you have a vessel and you 'supposedly' dedicate it to Satan, but it has dirty water from the jews in it. Increasing the water in said vessel is only increasing and spreading the jewish taints within the vessel. For this reason, if one says they respect their decision and they have honesty in their mind, they need to clean this vessel. Cleaning this means to advance one's self. This is what will make someone more of a Satanist.

This is evident in many people, who do always try to blend things out with enemy dogma or things that stem from it. I've seen attempts by some Satanists here to reconcile ideas which are disgusting and alien to one another, even enemy dogma into our own. This creates a permanent block in the mind, which disallows one from advancing in Satanism, or in Satan's trust. Satan and the Gods can see it clearly but people tend to try to fool themselves for the wrong reasons.
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~ HP. Hoodedcobra666

(I suggest reading the full sermon).

I’ll say this once.
Nobody makes me respond to another person or tells me how I have to do it. No one makes me do anything that I don’t agree with or choose to do myself. I am no one’s man-slave, and your idiocy of how we should be in our own relationship will not make us crush our serpents just to please you.

I have no reason to feel angry at your sexism anymore, Southern, because despite being here for much longer than I have, you still have the mentality of a christian.

[jrvan]

I was thinking the way he insults people's character over personal disagreements is a bit similar to you, although his insults always just come down to "you're worse than the enemy", whereas yours are a bit more varied.
I think you're a lot more pleasant to interact with though compared to him. I'd rather be told to jump in a swamp than be told my values are "Judeo-Christian", as he said when I expressed my opinions in a thread about prostitution. I'm a bit hardcore when it comes to love and monogamy, and he felt offended. Everyone else talked about it in a decent, mature manner, while he just went and called me what I hate the most.

Some will say I’m the crazy kook on the forum that you have to look out for, but this intellectual giant is calling me a subhuman Jew for eating a turkey on thanksgiving. You have to wonder what is being put in the water to make someone think this way.

I'm still a bit salty over that; maybe I should try splashing around in a swamp for a bit to wash it off? Although I wouldn't want to run into him there if he decides to go as well, so maybe not.

You shouldn’t do that. The swamp is for generally foul people. I think you are a good man. Those murky waters are all theirs to have. Stay away from these influences.

So he belongs in the swamp because his opinions and attitude really annoyed you. It seems your opinion and attitude also really annoyed him, does that mean you belong in the swamp as well, or do you not? Please elaborate, as I'm curious about your reasoning here; although I think I'm slowly starting to understand it.

No it doesn’t. These people don’t get to decide who goes into the swamp because they are already there! Imagine inmates running the asylum and choosing who gets admitted, it’s asinine.

FancyMancy's humor is rather funny, although she mentioned something about not having balls recently, so I'm not sure about her being a guy. Not like that matters here, though. Or does it? If such a thing were the true, would that affect the way you think of FancyMancy? If so, is that in some way related to the annoying vibe jrvan gave you?

I was under the impression that FM was a he not a she, and if “he” doesn’t have testicles it doesn’t matter because I feel the same either way. They are a veteran SS that is usually insightful, and who is jrvan? Nobody.

Now if you would excuse me good sir there are some rougarous that I have to respond to.

It's not your job to police peoples' behavior

It is if I want it to be. Somebody has to take out the trash.

and the only reason this has dragged on for so long is because you couldn't handle being called out and confronted on your remarks. Shit got too real for you. That doesn't make me a woman, it makes you a little boy who got put in their place then decided to lash out in rage, crying, full hissy fit mode.

Who is that lashing out and having the hissy fit? I will refer you to the original reply here where you are crying about what a big meanie I am for joking with you.

Not everyone is meant to be alpha, and there is nothing wrong with being beta contrary to toxic popular belief.

There is something wrong with being a beta it means that... you’re a beta. Betas get no respect from anyone which is why I could pick on you in the first place, can’t do that to an alpha.

If being beta was such a high crime against nature then there wouldn't be betas.

We live in a very unnatural society so this point is invalid.

If everyone was alpha then we would have no leadership principle, and there would be no way for society or any group at all to manifest because everyone would refuse to follow anyone.

This is not a zero sum game. If someone is not an alpha it doesn’t automatically mean that they are a beta. There’s lots of room in the middle. But you are very clearly a BETA.

my ideas are too much for you to comprehend doesn't make them wrong, and they have nothing to do with my behavior.

Your ideas are too pathetic and gay for anyone to take seriously. A society cannot be based on jrvan beta philosophy. Now go ahead Aristotle. Spit some more of that wisdom you have.

Shaming me is not going to change me because I don't respond to shaming language in that way. I'm going to continue being the way I am, and there's nothing you can do about it. Get used to me, prick.

I say the same to you HP jrvan. Fight your own battles, which leads me to this final point.

You did the ultimate beta coward move and hid behind your wife when confronted.

This to me is the worst part about all of this. Imagine you and tabby were walking down the street, and then suddenly a man with weapon walked up and threatened you, would you throw her in front of you and make tabby eat the bullet? Because that’s what you just did in this thread.

You made her respond and get involved so that it makes me look bad because everyone knows that you can’t hit a woman, and I didn’t because that’s not who I am.

You are a very sneaky man Jvran. You thought I was stupid and that you were going to get one over on me, when the truth is that I know all of the swamp tactics that you use so I know how to avoid them.

Have you ever seen the classic cartoon “Charlie brown”? You sound the adults in that show every time you respond to me. Womp womp womp womp womp
https://youtu.be/q_BU5hR9gXE

You're unraveling so hard that it's funny. If I'm nobody then why are you spending so much time and effort to try to take me down?

I'm not even going to bother arguing with you over what the meaning of the word "beta" is because you're subscribed to the silly mgtow concept of the word, and attempting to change your mind about it is a waste of time. You can keep using the word like that if you want, but I personally find it has no weight.
Yes, we live in an unnatural society that you can't imagine anything beyond. You're fucking addicted to it. When we're moving onto NS, you're going to be crying while clinging to your crumbling church because you can't cope with non-xian ideas. Being healthy is too much for you.
Speaking of health, I saw your comment on another post about your dad. You're afraid of turning into a narcissist, but you already have. So much so that you can't even see it (like how your comment was disrespectful to Blackdragon666). I'll tell you why too. It's because you're trying not to become your dad. You won't ever be different from him by focusing on not becoming him because that's not how it works. I would know because my mom was a narcissistic alcoholic, and in order to rise above my trauma and be different from her instead of hurting people, I had to stop focusing on not being her, and instead focus on becoming myself. Maybe you will understand some day.

I don't control my wife. She does as she pleases, and I never impose my will on her. She's a part of this spiritual family bonded by blood just as I am, and she has the right to participate on these forums.
Sometimes she asks me what I think of what she's written, and if I think it's a good idea to post it or leave it be, or to help her edit some typos. Other than that, I am completely hands off because she is her own person. I've also been encouraging her to not seek my approval, but she's shy so I help sometimes.
We have been through a lot together including dangerous situations, and I always protected her when I needed to. You don't know what you're talking about, and at this point neither do I because you just sound crazy at this point.
As for hitting women, that's your own limitation - not mine. I would hit a woman if I had to in the right circumstances like to protect someone, or if it was combat sports. I'd beat the crap out of Nancy Pelosi if I had the chance, and I'm sure a lot of other guys would too. And this is all ridiculous anyway because this is an argument on the internet. You're so sexist that you won't argue with a woman? I guess that also proves that none of it was a joke because a joke isn't something that you'd be worried about harming a woman over.

You just keep doubling down because you lack the noble courage to admit that you're wrong. If Hitler saw you now, I suspect he would be disappointed in you. Making an ass of yourself, losing everyones' respect, fighting your own brothers and sisters then lying about it all being a joke when you get confronted. It's all very shameful.

If you throw all of us SS into the swamp then we're not going to let you come join us when you inevitably get lonely. We'll all be partying in the swamp without you :P

[FancyMancy]

Do you think the average person in say 1920 hesitated to go up to someone they found attractive? No. So why is using a spell bad when both are based on principles of manifestation and a spell will create a more harmonious result, cutting through bullshit?

Exactly. We are "allowed" to wine and dine and buy roses and chocolate to get somewhere with someone...so why not Spirituality? It's like the jew saying "you can't use magic to make someone fall in love with you" and "you can't bring someone you love back from the dead". Quite BS, really. At least with Magick, the results would be much better, as long as one uses the correct phrases, such as "in a safe and positive way" and "best BF/GF/Partner [or plural] for me", etc.

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(Nooo... FancyMancy is a Boy. I meant that Girls don't have balls because a user who thinks with his heart instead of his head said "all" and kicking us in our "balls", or something, in his post. Me is a Boy and has Balls and a Penis! Ooh, and a Prostate and other Boy thnigs! Heck, I even have nipples, but am still a Boy! The following may be lowering the tone too much, but I'll chance it - I also has (or had, depending on my age) a Pussy - you know, like a Boypussy... but am still a Boy!)

By the way - I am skipping over nearly all of this... erm... shall we say fun stuff in this thread. Just-a let yer'all know.

Ah, I was a bit unsure about it (since you also recently mentioned going to an event for guys only), but I thought it might provoke a response from Southern to help me understand how he thinks, and a response from you as well to help clear up my misunderstanding if I was wrong. Both of those things happened, so I feel intellectually satisfied now.

Lol.

I apologise for getting you involved in such a weird way, though.

No. No apology needed.

Anyway, I know the topic is boring. You can run along now and do... boy things.

Join me? You might like them. (I dunno if you are a Boy or a Girl, but regardless... lol)

[FancyMancy]

Your ideas are too pathetic and gay for anyone to take seriously.

SWG in the pen with the pigs. Now I know where all of that squealing came from.



If this was a Physical room in which this topic was being enjoyed, I'd interrupt it by putting on some obnoxious music, just for teh l0lz.

[Ol argedco luciftias]

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Both of you are clowns. When you both realize that, maybe you will get along better. I think that both of you have good intentions, but are wrong about some things.

[Meteor]

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In a thousand years love will remain a complex mystifying thing and you will never be able to figure it out, because it's not 'real'. The things I'm telling you won't change in a thousand or two thousand years because they are laws of nature. Laws of nature have nothing to do with interpretation either. They just are and they will continue to be. But when humans shed the imperfect material nature of self in due time through the process of development, the notion of love as is prevalent currently will go away.

I feel similarly, but not about love and about logic instead.
When I say "logic", what I really mean is "understanding causality": to know how one thing follows from another. To me, that is what logic really is. Not something that exists only in the left side of the brain, and not something that needs to be written in words either.

In time when people understand that better, even spiritual concepts can be simplified. And that's already happening: consider for example the planetary squares. Specific amounts of repetitions in a specific order for a specific amount of days, just like a formula. And if you properly follow the formula, you know you'll get results. Cause and effect.
To understand the cause and effect of everything, is what logic is to me when perfected.

I know I don't think completely like a normal person. I care so much about about the "why" and the process that I become detached sometimes and stop caring about the actual contents of a situation or discussion, at least until it gets so serious and personal that my emotions drag me back down to reality. But it's good that they do, since as long as I don't fully understand my feelings, ignoring them completely is the worst thing I can do if I want to be happy.
But even if I'm weird, it doesn't matter to me anymore. "Normal people" aren't the ones who always got perfect scores on their math tests and know almost right away how to solve almost any complex practical issue. Normal people just complain that things don't go the way they wanted, not taking into consideration that maybe it's their own fault holding on to their misunderstandings about the way reality works, which led to them not doing any of the things required for the outcome they wanted.

I understand where you're coming from but unfortunately its wrong . You're wrong about Logic and mathematics also. Mathethatics is not logic. And yet the application of Mathematics to solve problems is Logic. Logic is most certainly bound by limitations. If that were not so ,we would be currently living in a utopia. Mathematics was used by Astrophysicists to create a host of totally wrong assertions and assumptions (which exist to this day), because they were bound by the limitations of their material selves. And most people still are. Mathematics is used by people in a host of different sciences. And many of these sciences which appeared logical at that time were rejected after they were presented with contradictory evidence. For example it was logical for people to believe at one time that Earth was at the centre of the solar System. A lot of mathematics was used there too. But that logic was revised with new data. 'Logic' is a left brained notion which is born out of intellect ,a facet of Prakriti - Nature. In reality ,there is no such thing as 'Logic' in the Superconciousness reality of the Brahman. Things just are ,which is why its called 'truth'. There is no interpretation or debate about it. They are as they always were. And theres also no such thing as perfect logic because intellect is by its nature borne out of imperfection - through Prakriti.

Technically, all the formulas to model the movements of the stars and planets can be written from the Earth's perspective too. It just happens to make them a lot more complicated than they need to be. Although that's besides the point here.

The formulas created by someone who doesn't know reality will rarely make accurate predictions when it matters. That's why knowledge is also important. Knoweldge can be acquired simply by looking, by listening, through experiments, or through meditation. It really isn't a surprise that when people were suppressed and indoctrinated by the church and their spiritual abilities were inhibited, their mathematics suffered for it as well.
Creating formulas is very different from using them. It is a delicate creative process that involves inspiration as well as intuition. The right side of the brain is for understanding the logic, and the left side is for applying it, at least in my experience when creating new formulas.

While I believe that there is absolute logic which simply is from which everything follows, I do not believe other things "simply" are. For example, the trees in the forest are there because that's where the seeds landed. I'm here because I was born at the right time. It rains because the clouds are getting cold up there, and the Sun shines because it's hot.
However, I do agree that knowledge can be acquired directly through meditation without understanding why. For example, using a specific technique that I don't fully understand the workings of yet, I can gain direct information about the location of an object I'm looking for, or what number will appear if I press the button on a random number generator at a specific time. The objects are there not because they simply are, but because someone put them there. The number was not chosen at random, but determined based on the internal state of the generator. But neither of those are things I know the specifics of; and yet I can still see them correctly if I try. Admittedly, that is to see knowledge directly seemingly without involving logic.
But looking at it more closely, how is that really any different from just using our eyes and ears? The only difference here is that it's not the present I'm looking at.

Observing things helps us to see them as they are. But that doesn't mean they simply are, or that they always have been. I believe that everything happens for reasons, even if we don't fully understand the reasons yet. Even love is borne out of specific combinations of circumstances.

Love is not an objective feeling nor is it permanent, perfect or universal. It cant be measured, or defined. It has no properties of an objective reality. You can't measure the overlaps. The only thing that you can measure are the individual emotions and that's not love. Those are transient feelings which go away in time. The only way to see love is by looking at the individual feelings associated with it. And that's your personal composition of love ,that too for a particular person. Meaning that person composition will change with regards to different people.

Your first sentence I can agree with, although to me love is "permanent until contradicted", but I know what you mean and I'd rather not get into my personal feelings about love.
As for the second sentence though, I think many forms of love can be defined; even if writing a definition that covers all the edge cases properly would be a bit time-consuming and require a lot of extra information. As for measuring it, that can be done too. In fact, people can do it just by looking. If it was something that can't be measured, why can it be so blatantly obvious sometimes when someone is in love? Although saying a person's love is immeasurable does sound rather romantic, but I think that's besides the point here.

It might be more harder for people with more analytical minds because they are prone to analyzing and logically engaging themselves, while they try to meditate. You have to let go of logic and look at truth if you want to advance. Leave your previous self and undergo the little deaths that break apart your sense of self. Only after many such little deaths can you call yourself a Yogi who accepts truth for what it is.

I was bound by the limitations of my mind at one point but now with each new segment of information, I say "I don't know anything. " I don't let my ego get hurt if I'm proven wrong. Its just another building block for advancement. The more I discover things in meditation the more my preconceived notions are destroyed and it doesn't affect me as I'm used to it.

To love logic is not the same as to reject reality. If something doesn't happen according to my logic, then that doesn't mean reality is wrong, but my logic is. Above anything, that's an opportunity for me to learn and improve my logic even further.
Why would I, seeking to perfect my logic, ever want to live in denial of the truth? If I cannot see the truth unbiasedly, how could my logic be unbiased either? Letting go of all those biases and seeing only that which remains is obviously the way to go; but my logic is no bias, it is merely the understanding acquired in the process.

A while ago, a Satanist with a good reputation told me something similar, that I should let go of my logic and preconceptions and just look in his mind without bias so I would understand the "Truth" that he saw. I believed him. You know what happened? He turned out to be an infiltrator with jewish genes, and as I looked at the images he showed me in my mind, I went insane. I lost my will, my ability to think critically, my personality, and even my name. If that's what it means to die and break, then I don't want it.

I am not accusing you of such a thing, and I know it's largely thanks to the Gods and the other good people around me that I was able to recover and become myself again. But even if I were to see the same things as you do regarding love, I simply can't afford to be so trusting anymore and think something is true simply because it initially seems that way. Things can be confusing and deceptive, and if something doesn't make sense, then I probably shouldn't trust it unless there's clear, actual evidence of it in the real world.
For me, logic is not something I can ever live without again, because it's what protects me the most from ever losing myself again. If back then I had simply listened to my logic, I would not have believed any of the things I saw. None of it made sense, and yet I had convinced myself that I was just being close-minded and that it was my logic that was wrong, not the information, simply because he said he had received the information from the Gods.

Nowadays, I change my beliefs if they don't appear to lead to accurate predictions, and take the things people say into consideration. But I will never again change my beliefs just because someone tells me to. In meditation as well, I take the things I see into consideration rather than believing them at face value. I suspend my personal understanding of logic temporarily during the meditation so I can see things properly and without bias, but once I'm done, I make sure to scrutinise and analyse everything I saw, just to make sure no potential misunderstandings slipped through.

If during meditation you got the idea that you should jump from a high place because you can fly, would you do it? No, right? Because it doesn't make sense. While there are other ways to improve accuracy as well, if your logic is sound, then it can be an extremely valuable filter when it comes to discerning truth from falsehood. And it's a filter that I will continue to refine and never let go of ever again, because it's there for a reason. If it ever holds me back for some reason, that just means I have to improve it even further.

[Meteor]

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Ah, I was a bit unsure about it (since you also recently mentioned going to an event for guys only), but I thought it might provoke a response from Southern to help me understand how he thinks, and a response from you as well to help clear up my misunderstanding if I was wrong. Both of those things happened, so I feel intellectually satisfied now.

Lol.

I apologise for getting you involved in such a weird way, though.

No. No apology needed.

You said no twice. Do you dislike apologies over minor things? In that case, I'll spare you my apology for apologising.
Anyway, I'm glad it was no problem.

Anyway, I know the topic is boring. You can run along now and do... boy things.

Join me? You might like them. (I dunno if you are a Boy or a Girl, but regardless... lol)

What exactly even are "boy things" anymore these days? Playing video games used to be a boy thing when I was growing up, but now a lot of girls do it too. I thought maybe playing around in a swamp might be a boyish thing to do, but SWG said that's only where the bad boys go. Although my brother did meditate under the Moonlight while floating on his back in a lake once to feel closer to his "anima", which was pretty cool, but I'm not sure if that counts as a boy thing.

He does go weightlifting often as well, maybe that's a boy thing? What do you think? What are your favorite boy things, FancyMancy?

To me, it has always been a slightly confusing topic. I just do what I want, and I can't see to what extent my sex affects that. If I can't fit in to begin with, then what meaning do stereotypes have anymore?
An autistic teacher of mine (she got fired rather quickly due to her inability to get along with any students except for me, and she only got along with me because I was very diplomatic and patient with her) once asked me what type I was. I asked her what she meant, and she said that teenagers can be sorted into boxes, but she didn't know what box to put me in. I asked her what boxes the other students fell into, and she said things like "nerd", "skater", "bitch", "jock", "goth" and "trender". I said to her that I think perhaps some people are just too complicated to fit into a single box, but that's fine, because that's just how they are. She said she never thought about it like that before, then thanked me and walked away.
(On a side note, she introduced herself as a synesthete on her first day, claiming she always sees specific words in specific colors. I wonder if that's related to her mindset in some way.)

I still wonder sometimes, is everyone who has the right parts for it allowed in the "boy" box? Is everyone who has the right parts for it allowed in the "girl" box? If that's the case, then why are people so mean when a boy likes "girl things", or when a girl likes "boy things"? If a boy likes it, then doesn't that mean it's also a boy thing, and if a girl likes it, then doesn't that mean it's also a girl thing?
I'm sure I'm just overthinking it or something. But for me, it's always been a difficult topic. So I hide behind my screen so I don't have to worry that people will think I'm weird, because they'll just assume whatever makes the most sense to them.

Even so, thank you for inviting me to do some boy things. It feels nice to be welcome.

[SouthernWhiteGentile]

I have a couple more questions if you don't mind: when did you form your opinion about beta males, and what were the events leading up to you forming the opinion? For example, what was it like the first time someone like that annoyed you?

Although I think I now understand your behaviour and that of my classmate back then, I still wonder where exactly it comes from. I can speculate, but simply hearing it directly from you could be a lot more insightful.

I’m not here for an interview. I’m not an animal at the zoo for you to gawk at. Figure it out yourself.

Care to explain what the fuck a rougarous is? What’s next on the list of things you want to insult us with?

I will make it clear

In the Cajun legends, the creature is said to prowl the swamps

As for the rest of your comment I’ve already said I’m not here to fight with you. No I’m not a xtain obviously..

You're unraveling so hard that it's funny. If I'm nobody then why are you spending so much time and effort to try to take me down?

I’ve already taken you down. But I’m not going to be the first one to stop responding.

I'm not even going to bother arguing with you over what the meaning of the word "beta" is because you're subscribed to the silly mgtow concept of the word, and attempting to change your mind about it is a waste of time. You can keep using the word like that if you want, but I personally find it has no weight.

I’m not a mgtow. But I guess “beta” is like “love” it has a different meaning to everyone.

Yes, we live in an unnatural society that you can't imagine anything beyond. You're fucking addicted to it. When we're moving onto NS, you're going to be crying while clinging to your crumbling church because you can't cope with non-xian ideas. Being healthy is too much for you.

Swg is xtain. We have to literally crucify him. Blah blah blah. Hold on now, wouldn’t that make you the xtain?

Speaking of health, I saw your comment on another post about your dad. You're afraid of turning into a narcissist, but you already have. So much so that you can't even see it (like how your comment was disrespectful to Blackdragon666). I'll tell you why too. It's because you're trying not to become your dad. You won't ever be different from him by focusing on not becoming him because that's not how it works. I would know because my mom was a narcissistic alcoholic, and in order to rise above my trauma and be different from her instead of hurting people, I had to stop focusing on not being her, and instead focus on becoming myself. Maybe you will understand some day.

Apparently everything is disrespectful to you l, no one else nor blackdragon seems to think that but OK.

And thanks for the advice on familial matters Aristotle, I’ll be sure to use it.

I don't control my wife. She does as she pleases, and I never impose my will on her. She's a part of this spiritual family bonded by blood just as I am, and she has the right to participate on these forums.

I never said she didn’t and wasn’t. But there is obviously collusion going on. Maybe the eff bee eye should open an investigation.

As for hitting women, that's your own limitation - not mine. I would hit a woman if I had to in the right circumstances like to protect someone, or if it was combat sports. I'd beat the crap out of Nancy Pelosi if I had the chance, and I'm sure a lot of other guys would too. And this is all ridiculous anyway because this is an argument on the internet. You're so sexist that you won't argue with a woman?

You would beat up a demented old lady. Cool. Swg the monstrous sexist that refuses to harm women.

I guess that also proves that none of it was a joke because a joke isn't something that you'd be worried about harming a woman over.

It WAS a joke, until it was brought to this level, not by me BTW. I’m not going to spit venom at a lady who doesn’t deserve it.

You just keep doubling down because you lack the noble courage to admit that you're wrong. If Hitler saw you now, I suspect he would be disappointed in you. Making an ass of yourself, losing everyones' respect, fighting your own brothers and sisters then lying about it all being a joke when you get confronted. It's all very shameful.

Remember I have already apologized to you, but you said it was “disingenuous”, that’s your problem. It could have ended right there, but you kept poking the bear.

If you throw all of us SS into the swamp then we're not going to let you come join us when you inevitably get lonely. We'll all be partying in the swamp without you

That’s fine. I have adapted to being alone. Last time I had real friends they formed a Warsaw Pact against me making me an alienated third wheel.

[TopoftheAbyss]

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....

Both of you are clowns. When you both realize that, maybe you will get along better. I think that both of you have good intentions, but are wrong about some things.

There is nothing wrong about me. You again prove to be the typical idiot who enters conversations he doesn't understand.

[FancyMancy]

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You can't say anything about loving logic to Jack, because "love doesn't exist" so sayeth Jack.

Ah, I was a bit unsure about it (since you also recently mentioned going to an event for guys only), but I thought it might provoke a response from Southern to help me understand how he thinks, and a response from you as well to help clear up my misunderstanding if I was wrong. Both of those things happened, so I feel intellectually satisfied now.

Lol.

I apologise for getting you involved in such a weird way, though.

No. No apology needed.

You said no twice. Do you dislike apologies over minor things? In that case, I'll spare you my apology for apologising.
Anyway, I'm glad it was no problem.

Anyway...

Anyway, I know the topic is boring. You can run along now and do... boy things.

Join me? You might like them. (I dunno if you are a Boy or a Girl, but regardless... lol)

What exactly even are "boy things" anymore these days?

No idea. The jew has tried making everything androgynous/unisex. The jew doesn't want identity and individuality, yet at the same time still promotes "the battle of the sexes".

Playing video games used to be a boy thing when I was growing up, but now a lot of girls do it too. I thought maybe playing around in a swamp might be a boyish thing to do, but SWG said that's only where the bad boys go. Although my brother did meditate under the Moonlight while floating on his back in a lake once to feel closer to his "anima", which was pretty cool, but I'm not sure if that counts as a boy thing.

Were the fishies dancing on a rainbow and singing songs backwards, as well?

He does go weightlifting often as well, maybe that's a boy thing? What do you think? What are your favorite boy things, FancyMancy?

Meh.

To me, it has always been a slightly confusing topic. I just do what I want, and I can't see to what extent my sex affects that. If I can't fit in to begin with, then what meaning do stereotypes have anymore?

Meh, again.

I still wonder sometimes, is everyone who has the right parts for it allowed in the "boy" box? Is everyone who has the right parts for it allowed in the "girl" box? If that's the case, then why are people so mean when a boy likes "girl things", or when a girl likes "boy things"? If a boy likes it, then doesn't that mean it's also a boy thing, and if a girl likes it, then doesn't that mean it's also a girl thing?

Naturally, we have Masculine and Feminine Energies, 2 sides of the Brain, Masculine/Feminine aspects of the Soul. While Humans have been reduced to not understand and live these Natural things, the jew has had to "give permission" and "allow" the use of "masculine things" and "feminine things", as a material (also materialistic) distraction away from actual Nature - Spirituality.

I'm sure I'm just overthinking it or something. But for me, it's always been a difficult topic. So I hide behind my screen so I don't have to worry that people will think I'm weird, because they'll just assume whatever makes the most sense to them.

Even so, thank you for inviting me to do some boy things. It feels nice to be welcome.

Maybe we can be different and go and paint-- crayon the town beige. That sounds like fun.

[Jack]

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In a thousand years love will remain a complex mystifying thing and you will never be able to figure it out, because it's not 'real'. The things I'm telling you won't change in a thousand or two thousand years because they are laws of nature. Laws of nature have nothing to do with interpretation either. They just are and they will continue to be. But when humans shed the imperfect material nature of self in due time through the process of development, the notion of love as is prevalent currently will go away.

I feel similarly, but not about love and about logic instead.
When I say "logic", what I really mean is "understanding causality": to know how one thing follows from another. To me, that is what logic really is. Not something that exists only in the left side of the brain, and not something that needs to be written in words either.

In time when people understand that better, even spiritual concepts can be simplified. And that's already happening: consider for example the planetary squares. Specific amounts of repetitions in a specific order for a specific amount of days, just like a formula. And if you properly follow the formula, you know you'll get results. Cause and effect.
To understand the cause and effect of everything, is what logic is to me when perfected.

I know I don't think completely like a normal person. I care so much about about the "why" and the process that I become detached sometimes and stop caring about the actual contents of a situation or discussion, at least until it gets so serious and personal that my emotions drag me back down to reality. But it's good that they do, since as long as I don't fully understand my feelings, ignoring them completely is the worst thing I can do if I want to be happy.
But even if I'm weird, it doesn't matter to me anymore. "Normal people" aren't the ones who always got perfect scores on their math tests and know almost right away how to solve almost any complex practical issue. Normal people just complain that things don't go the way they wanted, not taking into consideration that maybe it's their own fault holding on to their misunderstandings about the way reality works, which led to them not doing any of the things required for the outcome they wanted.

I understand where you're coming from but unfortunately its wrong . You're wrong about Logic and mathematics also. Mathethatics is not logic. And yet the application of Mathematics to solve problems is Logic. Logic is most certainly bound by limitations. If that were not so ,we would be currently living in a utopia. Mathematics was used by Astrophysicists to create a host of totally wrong assertions and assumptions (which exist to this day), because they were bound by the limitations of their material selves. And most people still are. Mathematics is used by people in a host of different sciences. And many of these sciences which appeared logical at that time were rejected after they were presented with contradictory evidence. For example it was logical for people to believe at one time that Earth was at the centre of the solar System. A lot of mathematics was used there too. But that logic was revised with new data. 'Logic' is a left brained notion which is born out of intellect ,a facet of Prakriti - Nature. In reality ,there is no such thing as 'Logic' in the Superconciousness reality of the Brahman. Things just are ,which is why its called 'truth'. There is no interpretation or debate about it. They are as they always were. And theres also no such thing as perfect logic because intellect is by its nature borne out of imperfection - through Prakriti.

Technically, all the formulas to model the movements of the stars and planets can be written from the Earth's perspective too. It just happens to make them a lot more complicated than they need to be. Although that's besides the point here.

The formulas created by someone who doesn't know reality will rarely make accurate predictions when it matters. That's why knowledge is also important. Knoweldge can be acquired simply by looking, by listening, through experiments, or through meditation. It really isn't a surprise that when people were suppressed and indoctrinated by the church and their spiritual abilities were inhibited, their mathematics suffered for it as well.
Creating formulas is very different from using them. It is a delicate creative process that involves inspiration as well as intuition. The right side of the brain is for understanding the logic, and the left side is for applying it, at least in my experience when creating new formulas.

While I believe that there is absolute logic which simply is from which everything follows, I do not believe other things "simply" are. For example, the trees in the forest are there because that's where the seeds landed. I'm here because I was born at the right time. It rains because the clouds are getting cold up there, and the Sun shines because it's hot.
However, I do agree that knowledge can be acquired directly through meditation without understanding why. For example, using a specific technique that I don't fully understand the workings of yet, I can gain direct information about the location of an object I'm looking for, or what number will appear if I press the button on a random number generator at a specific time. The objects are there not because they simply are, but because someone put them there. The number was not chosen at random, but determined based on the internal state of the generator. But neither of those are things I know the specifics of; and yet I can still see them correctly if I try. Admittedly, that is to see knowledge directly seemingly without involving logic.
But looking at it more closely, how is that really any different from just using our eyes and ears? The only difference here is that it's not the present I'm looking at.

Observing things helps us to see them as they are. But that doesn't mean they simply are, or that they always have been. I believe that everything happens for reasons, even if we don't fully understand the reasons yet. Even love is borne out of specific combinations of circumstances.

Love is not an objective feeling nor is it permanent, perfect or universal. It cant be measured, or defined. It has no properties of an objective reality. You can't measure the overlaps. The only thing that you can measure are the individual emotions and that's not love. Those are transient feelings which go away in time. The only way to see love is by looking at the individual feelings associated with it. And that's your personal composition of love ,that too for a particular person. Meaning that person composition will change with regards to different people.

Your first sentence I can agree with, although to me love is "permanent until contradicted", but I know what you mean and I'd rather not get into my personal feelings about love.
As for the second sentence though, I think many forms of love can be defined; even if writing a definition that covers all the edge cases properly would be a bit time-consuming and require a lot of extra information. As for measuring it, that can be done too. In fact, people can do it just by looking. If it was something that can't be measured, why can it be so blatantly obvious sometimes when someone is in love? Although saying a person's love is immeasurable does sound rather romantic, but I think that's besides the point here.

It might be more harder for people with more analytical minds because they are prone to analyzing and logically engaging themselves, while they try to meditate. You have to let go of logic and look at truth if you want to advance. Leave your previous self and undergo the little deaths that break apart your sense of self. Only after many such little deaths can you call yourself a Yogi who accepts truth for what it is.

I was bound by the limitations of my mind at one point but now with each new segment of information, I say "I don't know anything. " I don't let my ego get hurt if I'm proven wrong. Its just another building block for advancement. The more I discover things in meditation the more my preconceived notions are destroyed and it doesn't affect me as I'm used to it.

To love logic is not the same as to reject reality. If something doesn't happen according to my logic, then that doesn't mean reality is wrong, but my logic is. Above anything, that's an opportunity for me to learn and improve my logic even further.
Why would I, seeking to perfect my logic, ever want to live in denial of the truth? If I cannot see the truth unbiasedly, how could my logic be unbiased either? Letting go of all those biases and seeing only that which remains is obviously the way to go; but my logic is no bias, it is merely the understanding acquired in the process.

A while ago, a Satanist with a good reputation told me something similar, that I should let go of my logic and preconceptions and just look in his mind without bias so I would understand the "Truth" that he saw. I believed him. You know what happened? He turned out to be an infiltrator with jewish genes, and as I looked at the images he showed me in my mind, I went insane. I lost my will, my ability to think critically, my personality, and even my name. If that's what it means to die and break, then I don't want it.

I am not accusing you of such a thing, and I know it's largely thanks to the Gods and the other good people around me that I was able to recover and become myself again. But even if I were to see the same things as you do regarding love, I simply can't afford to be so trusting anymore and think something is true simply because it initially seems that way. Things can be confusing and deceptive, and if something doesn't make sense, then I probably shouldn't trust it unless there's clear, actual evidence of it in the real world.
For me, logic is not something I can ever live without again, because it's what protects me the most from ever losing myself again. If back then I had simply listened to my logic, I would not have believed any of the things I saw. None of it made sense, and yet I had convinced myself that I was just being close-minded and that it was my logic that was wrong, not the information, simply because he said he had received the information from the Gods.

Nowadays, I change my beliefs if they don't appear to lead to accurate predictions, and take the things people say into consideration. But I will never again change my beliefs just because someone tells me to. In meditation as well, I take the things I see into consideration rather than believing them at face value. I suspend my personal understanding of logic temporarily during the meditation so I can see things properly and without bias, but once I'm done, I make sure to scrutinise and analyse everything I saw, just to make sure no potential misunderstandings slipped through.

If during meditation you got the idea that you should jump from a high place because you can fly, would you do it? No, right? Because it doesn't make sense. While there are other ways to improve accuracy as well, if your logic is sound, then it can be an extremely valuable filter when it comes to discerning truth from falsehood. And it's a filter that I will continue to refine and never let go of ever again, because it's there for a reason. If it ever holds me back for some reason, that just means I have to improve it even further.

Okay now I understand what's really going on here. You think you can 'understand' the Brahman which is why your using the word 'logic ' and even the more ridiculous 'perfect logic' idea. Your coming at all this in a totally wrong understanding of what is happening and what's supposed to happen. And your afraid to trust what I'm saying because you're stupid enough to get scammed by a jew which means your astral senses are weak or your gullible and can't pick up on the enemy or defend yourself from it.

Unfortunately in this case the only way for you to understand anything that's happening in life is to ask a God ,because I can guarantee you that everything you believe to be true is false coming from the negative lower ego. Including the way you look at the objective reality of this world (what you see ,smell and hear.)

I chuckled a little bit when I heard someone say they're going to 'understand ' the Brahman. It feels like a sick joke from the being itself. I just had a basic realization about why this is all hard to understand for a lot of people. But its probably meant to be this way otherwise it wouldn't be called the universal delusion if I could just snap my fingers and get you out. You'll probably understand someday, but I doubt it'll happen soon because you don't have a basic root understanding of this world and your role in it. It took me 4 years of diligent, consistent sadhana along with consulting the Gods in each step of the way. It was a short period of time because I'm descended from a family of spiritual practitioners and also because I've been mediating for countless lifetimes. Its said if you
meditate that once you reincarnate you will be forced (almost against your will) to quickly resume from where you left off in the Sadhana. You don't have to understand the philosophy again, because you innately understand it at a soul level after multiple lifetimes. And so when you skim through it ,you quickly interpret it as it was meant to be interpreted and then get down to brass tacks. I've seen this with multiple SS where they innately understand the reality of this world even without reading any literature and they get to the practical aspects very quickly. But I've also seen multiple SS (you're one) where they get stuck in their heads and don't understand the basics and so they are unable to experience Meditation like it's meant to be experienced. The more you meditate the more you're capable of understanding the basics and the more you understand the basics the more you're capable of correctly experiencing meditation. But the time duration is different for different people. For some, its days, weeks or years depending on where they were in the previous births. But once the initial hurdle of the basics is sorted ,then everything flows naturally.

And I won't explicitly tell you what to look at otherwise your negative ego might reject that ,in an attempt to protect itself. The sadhana is a road of personal discovery and realization. But the universe is the same for everyone so you'll reach the same conclusions as every other sadhak who actually meditates in time. But the little deaths are unavoidable.

[jrvan]

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Says he's not an animal at the zoo, then refers to himself as a bear

What do you have against Aristotle anyway?

That’s fine. I have adapted to being alone. Last time I had real friends they formed a Warsaw Pact against me making me an alienated third wheel.

Explains a lot. Go off by yourself then mister loner bear. Maybe you'll hear the party poppers in the distance.

[Meteor]

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Maybe you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I don't believe I understand it at all at the moment.
I just hope to someday. I try to understand most things, because I like understanding things. This is no exception either.
I like mathematics so I have a particular way of looking at the world. I'm sorry if that means I'm being ridiculous.

As for the kike, I had only been meditating for about half a year when it happened, and he went completely unnoticed and was respected by dozens of other Satanists for years before I got here, one of which had been around for more than a decade.
It's not fair.

I have found what I was looking in this path, and now I cannot live without it, so I will continue to keep walking in it, at my own pace.

How many years it takes me doesn't matter to me. I've already received more than that kike took away from me. If I end up getting stuck, then I'll do whatever I need to when I'm ready.

I already made up my mind a long time ago. That even if I have to leave a part of myself behind, I'll do it if that's what it takes to accomplish my dream. But for now, I'll hold onto this feeble stability and cherish it. At least until I sort some other things out so I can eventually continue uninterrupted.

[Meteor]

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Maybe you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I don't believe I understand it at all at the moment.
I just hope to someday. I try to understand most things, because I like understanding things. This is no exception either.
I like mathematics so I have a particular way of looking at the world. I'm sorry if that means I'm being ridiculous.

As for the kike, I had only been meditating for about half a year when it happened, and he went completely unnoticed and was respected by dozens of other Satanists for years before I got here, one of which had been around for more than a decade.
Everyone I looked up to told me he was a great person, so I overlooked the things that seemed off. It's not fair.

Even so, I have found what I was looking for in this path, and now I cannot live without it, so I will continue to keep walking it, at my own pace.

How many years it takes me doesn't matter to me. I've already received more than that kike took away from me. Things that have changed my life for the better, permanently. If I end up getting stuck, then I'll do whatever I need to when I'm ready.

I already made up my mind a long time ago. That even if I have to leave a part of myself behind, I'll do it if that's what it takes to accomplish my dream. But for now, I'll hold onto this feeble stability and cherish it. At least until I sort some other things out so I can eventually continue uninterrupted.

[Meteor]

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You can't say anything about loving logic to Jack, because "love doesn't exist" so sayeth Jack.

I already noticed a while ago that talking to him doesn't really lead to much since neither of us is very interested in what the other person is saying, we're just stating our opinions.
Yet I still did it just because he responded to me. Oh well, at least I enjoyed writing it.

Lol.


No. No apology needed.

You said no twice. Do you dislike apologies over minor things? In that case, I'll spare you my apology for apologising.
Anyway, I'm glad it was no problem.

Anyway...

Join me? You might like them. (I dunno if you are a Boy or a Girl, but regardless... lol)

What exactly even are "boy things" anymore these days?

No idea. The jew has tried making everything androgynous/unisex. The jew doesn't want identity and individuality, yet at the same time still promotes "the battle of the sexes".

I always thought "the battle of the sexes" was such a stupid thing. I just wanted to get along with everyone, but my classmates in kindergarten took it so seriously that both "sides" ended up treating me like a traitor. It was ridiculous.

Playing video games used to be a boy thing when I was growing up, but now a lot of girls do it too. I thought maybe playing around in a swamp might be a boyish thing to do, but SWG said that's only where the bad boys go. Although my brother did meditate under the Moonlight while floating on his back in a lake once to feel closer to his "anima", which was pretty cool, but I'm not sure if that counts as a boy thing.

Were the fishies dancing on a rainbow and singing songs backwards, as well?

He was rather edgy back then, so I doubt it. Maybe the fishies were screaming death metal in reverse instead, or maybe they let him have a moment of silence.
He's been a lot more cheerful since he got a girlfriend, so perhaps the rainbows and the dancing fishies have appeared at last.

He does go weightlifting often as well, maybe that's a boy thing? What do you think? What are your favorite boy things, FancyMancy?

Meh.

To me, it has always been a slightly confusing topic. I just do what I want, and I can't see to what extent my sex affects that. If I can't fit in to begin with, then what meaning do stereotypes have anymore?

Meh, again.

I still wonder sometimes, is everyone who has the right parts for it allowed in the "boy" box? Is everyone who has the right parts for it allowed in the "girl" box? If that's the case, then why are people so mean when a boy likes "girl things", or when a girl likes "boy things"? If a boy likes it, then doesn't that mean it's also a boy thing, and if a girl likes it, then doesn't that mean it's also a girl thing?

Naturally, we have Masculine and Feminine Energies, 2 sides of the Brain, Masculine/Feminine aspects of the Soul. While Humans have been reduced to not understand and live these Natural things, the jew has had to "give permission" and "allow" the use of "masculine things" and "feminine things", as a material (also materialistic) distraction away from actual Nature - Spirituality.

After writing my post, I realised I was overthinking it a lot, and that some childhood memories were weighing on me a lot more heavily than I realised. Last night I decided should leave my personal doubts and worries and what-ifs behind and just ask my GD about it. Since then, I feel like such a weight was lifted from deep within me.
I didn't realise at all how much it actually weighed on me and distracted me until now.

I realised there's no need for me to be so self-conscious. I'm a woman. If people called me weird like a decade ago, that's their problem. And to be honest, I was a little weird back then anyway; I never smiled at anyone.

All that time spent wondering if people think I'm weird could be spent being productive and getting my life together instead. Thoughts and worries like that really don't matter at all.

I'm sure I'm just overthinking it or something. But for me, it's always been a difficult topic. So I hide behind my screen so I don't have to worry that people will think I'm weird, because they'll just assume whatever makes the most sense to them.

Even so, thank you for inviting me to do some boy things. It feels nice to be welcome.

Maybe we can be different and go and paint-- crayon the town beige. That sounds like fun.

I was thinking at first that I don't like beige, but after thinking about it I realised beige would actually look a lot better then most colors. Let's do it.

[Meteor]

I have a couple more questions if you don't mind: when did you form your opinion about beta males, and what were the events leading up to you forming the opinion? For example, what was it like the first time someone like that annoyed you?

Although I think I now understand your behaviour and that of my classmate back then, I still wonder where exactly it comes from. I can speculate, but simply hearing it directly from you could be a lot more insightful.

I’m not here for an interview. I’m not an animal at the zoo for you to gawk at. Figure it out yourself.

For someone who's not here for an interview, you sure answered a lot of my questions. I suppose this one was a bit too personal, sorry about that.

Anyway, thank you for your time. It was very insightful.

[Jack]

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Maybe you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I don't believe I understand it at all at the moment.
I just hope to someday. I try to understand most things, because I like understanding things. This is no exception either.
I like mathematics so I have a particular way of looking at the world. I'm sorry if that means I'm being ridiculous.

As for the kike, I had only been meditating for about half a year when it happened, and he went completely unnoticed and was respected by dozens of other Satanists for years before I got here, one of which had been around for more than a decade.
Everyone I looked up to told me he was a great person, so I overlooked the things that seemed off. It's not fair.

Even so, I have found what I was looking for in this path, and now I cannot live without it, so I will continue to keep walking it, at my own pace.

How many years it takes me doesn't matter to me. I've already received more than that kike took away from me. Things that have changed my life for the better, permanently. If I end up getting stuck, then I'll do whatever I need to when I'm ready.

I already made up my mind a long time ago. That even if I have to leave a part of myself behind, I'll do it if that's what it takes to accomplish my dream. But for now, I'll hold onto this feeble stability and cherish it. At least until I sort some other things out so I can eventually continue uninterrupted.

Don't trust anyone else, except your own self and the people that prove themselves to you.

I have a policy of never trusting anyone on this forum on face value. 95% of the people are lying or misjudging their experiences. The rest are knowledgeable and they don't want to give out the secret sauce as instructed to them. Anyone claiming to give you secrets is probably lying.

[Ol argedco luciftias]

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Both of you are clowns. When you both realize that, maybe you will get along better. I think that both of you have good intentions, but are wrong about some things.

There is nothing wrong about me. You again prove to be the typical idiot who enters conversations he doesn't understand.

I could write a whole list of examples. I've done it before, and since then there are even more things that could be added to the list. But I'm not going to do that today.

[Meteor]

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Don't trust anyone else, except your own self and the people that prove themselves to you.

I have a policy of never trusting anyone on this forum on face value. 95% of the people are lying or misjudging their experiences. The rest are knowledgeable and they don't want to give out the secret sauce as instructed to them. Anyone claiming to give you secrets is probably lying.

Yeah, I figured that out by now. A bit late, but at least I know I'll never let it happen again.

Sorry if I come off as a bit arrogant when I state my beliefs. I'm just trying to make sense of everything in my own way. I know I may be wrong or stubborn about some things, but I'd rather go about it like this than risk losing everything ever again. Just taking things at my own pace, seeing things for myself, and drawing my own conclusions. I know the theories I come up with along the way may prove be irrelevant as I learn more; but even so, I think this is the way for me to go. And if I make a fool out of myself along the way sometimes, then so be it. As long as I learn from it and keep moving forward, I'm sure I'll get there eventually.

[TopoftheAbyss]

Both of you are clowns. When you both realize that, maybe you will get along better. I think that both of you have good intentions, but are wrong about some things.

There is nothing wrong about me. You again prove to be the typical idiot who enters conversations he doesn't understand.

I could write a whole list of examples. I've done it before, and since then there are even more things that could be added to the list. But I'm not going to do that today.

You never did, you just made attacks on me, devoid of any argument or common sense.
See how much of a worthless hypocrite you are? You accuse me of having no arguments while not writing any of yours. Instead you resort to ad hominem.
You too are a subhuman and I'm working to rid the world of you.

[FancyMancy]

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You can't say anything about loving logic to Jack, because "love doesn't exist" so sayeth Jack.

I already noticed a while ago that talking to him doesn't really lead to much since neither of us is very interested in what the other person is saying, we're just stating our opinions.
Yet I still did it just because he responded to me. Oh well, at least I enjoyed writing it.

You said no twice. Do you dislike apologies over minor things? In that case, I'll spare you my apology for apologising.
Anyway, I'm glad it was no problem.

Anyway...

What exactly even are "boy things" anymore these days?

No idea. The jew has tried making everything androgynous/unisex. The jew doesn't want identity and individuality, yet at the same time still promotes "the battle of the sexes".

I always thought "the battle of the sexes" was such a stupid thing. I just wanted to get along with everyone, but my classmates in kindergarten took it so seriously that both "sides" ended up treating me like a traitor. It was ridiculous.

Playing video games used to be a boy thing when I was growing up, but now a lot of girls do it too. I thought maybe playing around in a swamp might be a boyish thing to do, but SWG said that's only where the bad boys go. Although my brother did meditate under the Moonlight while floating on his back in a lake once to feel closer to his "anima", which was pretty cool, but I'm not sure if that counts as a boy thing.

Were the fishies dancing on a rainbow and singing songs backwards, as well?

He was rather edgy back then, so I doubt it. Maybe the fishies were screaming death metal in reverse instead, or maybe they let him have a moment of silence.
He's been a lot more cheerful since he got a girlfriend, so perhaps the rainbows and the dancing fishies have appeared at last.

See? Everyone needs a good f...riendly bit of banter to chill them the fuck out!

He does go weightlifting often as well, maybe that's a boy thing? What do you think? What are your favorite boy things, FancyMancy?

Meh.

To me, it has always been a slightly confusing topic. I just do what I want, and I can't see to what extent my sex affects that. If I can't fit in to begin with, then what meaning do stereotypes have anymore?

Meh, again.

I still wonder sometimes, is everyone who has the right parts for it allowed in the "boy" box? Is everyone who has the right parts for it allowed in the "girl" box? If that's the case, then why are people so mean when a boy likes "girl things", or when a girl likes "boy things"? If a boy likes it, then doesn't that mean it's also a boy thing, and if a girl likes it, then doesn't that mean it's also a girl thing?

Naturally, we have Masculine and Feminine Energies, 2 sides of the Brain, Masculine/Feminine aspects of the Soul. While Humans have been reduced to not understand and live these Natural things, the jew has had to "give permission" and "allow" the use of "masculine things" and "feminine things", as a material (also materialistic) distraction away from actual Nature - Spirituality.

After writing my post, I realised I was overthinking it a lot, and that some childhood memories were weighing on me a lot more heavily than I realised. Last night I decided should leave my personal doubts and worries and what-ifs behind and just ask my GD about it. Since then, I feel like such a weight was lifted from deep within me.
I didn't realise at all how much it actually weighed on me and distracted me until now.

I realised there's no need for me to be so self-conscious. I'm a woman. If people called me weird like a decade ago, that's their problem. And to be honest, I was a little weird back then anyway; I never smiled at anyone.

Maybe you need a good f...riend, as well!

I'm sure I'm just overthinking it or something. But for me, it's always been a difficult topic. So I hide behind my screen so I don't have to worry that people will think I'm weird, because they'll just assume whatever makes the most sense to them.

Even so, thank you for inviting me to do some boy things. It feels nice to be welcome.

Maybe we can be different and go and paint-- crayon the town beige. That sounds like fun.

I was thinking at first that I don't like beige, but after thinking about it I realised beige would actually look a lot better then most colors. Let's do it.

Well... I suppose by "beige" it means having tea or coffee - or hot chocolate, preferably. Alcohol is too expensive!

[Aquarius]

There is nothing wrong about me. You again prove to be the typical idiot who enters conversations he doesn't understand.

I could write a whole list of examples. I've done it before, and since then there are even more things that could be added to the list. But I'm not going to do that today.

You never did, you just made attacks on me, devoid of any argument or common sense.
See how much of a worthless hypocrite you are? You accuse me of having no arguments while not writing any of yours. Instead you resort to ad hominem.
You too are a subhuman and I'm working to rid the world of you.

Topoftheabyss, for someone who can't even clean their aura daily or know that cutting yourself is not okay, you sure have an ego, an overinflated unjustified ego, you are not someone who should really be taken seriously, I'm not saying this as an insult but as truth. You should do some introspection, because you seem to always avoid the truth about yourself and looking into yourself.

[Ol argedco luciftias]

You never did, you just made attacks on me, devoid of any argument or common sense.
See how much of a worthless hypocrite you are? You accuse me of having no arguments while not writing any of yours. Instead you resort to ad hominem.
You too are a subhuman and I'm working to rid the world of you.

But this is exactly my point and your comment is a perfect example of it. Whenever you disagree with somebody, you never try to talk about it in a way to explain your side of it. No details, no explanation. But you just always say horrible things about people. You call everybody all the worst stuff you can think of.

Then you hate Southern White Gentile for the same behaviour of saying horrible things to people. And he does do that sometimes to some people. But he also does try to provide information to show what his perspective is based on. He shows where his ideas come from and what they are based on. You don't even try doing that.

All you ever do in most of your comments is all kinds of ad hominem insults and berating people. But it's like you don't realize you are even doing it. You pretend like you are the most innocent person and nothing is ever your fault. You say all kinds of horrible things to people, and you don't even hear what you are saying.

My whole comment was just to say I don't realize why the two of you argue so much and you both act like the other person is the worst person ever. Because I see both of you acting the same way. I see both of you saying horrible things to people. So is there really much difference?


You are working to remove me from the world? Would you like to explain that one? So are you trying to kill me or are you trying to curse me? I don't really care either way because you can't do anything. But it is interesting that you actually admit to trying to remove me from the world. I wonder what the gods would say about that one.

I disagree with you about some things. Most of all I disagree with the way you talk to people and how you just berate everybody. But I have never tried to harm you. I have only tried to help you by holding up a mirror and showing you how you are acting. And my reward is you prove to me that I was absolutely right the whole time that you are just a negative and hateful person. And you prove this by even threatening to kill me. So which one of us is really the rat?

[TopoftheAbyss]

I could write a whole list of examples. I've done it before, and since then there are even more things that could be added to the list. But I'm not going to do that today.

You never did, you just made attacks on me, devoid of any argument or common sense.
See how much of a worthless hypocrite you are? You accuse me of having no arguments while not writing any of yours. Instead you resort to ad hominem.
You too are a subhuman and I'm working to rid the world of you.

Topoftheabyss, for someone who can't even clean their aura daily or know that cutting yourself is not okay, you sure have an ego, an overinflated unjustified ego, you are not someone who should really be taken seriously, I'm not saying this as an insult but as truth. You should do some introspection, because you seem to always avoid the truth about yourself and looking into yourself.

You're another idiot. I may be have an inflated ego but I never avoid the truth. This is another example of subhumans just attacking me personally on account of what I say but never attacking what I'm saying.

[TopoftheAbyss]

You never did, you just made attacks on me, devoid of any argument or common sense.
See how much of a worthless hypocrite you are? You accuse me of having no arguments while not writing any of yours. Instead you resort to ad hominem.
You too are a subhuman and I'm working to rid the world of you.

But this is exactly my point and your comment is a perfect example of it. Whenever you disagree with somebody, you never try to talk about it in a way to explain your side of it. No details, no explanation. But you just always say horrible things about people. You call everybody all the worst stuff you can think of.

Then you hate Southern White Gentile for the same behaviour of saying horrible things to people. And he does do that sometimes to some people. But he also does try to provide information to show what his perspective is based on. He shows where his ideas come from and what they are based on. You don't even try doing that.

All you ever do in most of your comments is all kinds of ad hominem insults and berating people. But it's like you don't realize you are even doing it. You pretend like you are the most innocent person and nothing is ever your fault. You say all kinds of horrible things to people, and you don't even hear what you are saying.

My whole comment was just to say I don't realize why the two of you argue so much and you both act like the other person is the worst person ever. Because I see both of you acting the same way. I see both of you saying horrible things to people. So is there really much difference?


You are working to remove me from the world? Would you like to explain that one? So are you trying to kill me or are you trying to curse me? I don't really care either way because you can't do anything. But it is interesting that you actually admit to trying to remove me from the world. I wonder what the gods would say about that one.

I disagree with you about some things. Most of all I disagree with the way you talk to people and how you just berate everybody. But I have never tried to harm you. I have only tried to help you by holding up a mirror and showing you how you are acting. And my reward is you prove to me that I was absolutely right the whole time that you are just a negative and hateful person. And you prove this by even threatening to kill me. So which one of us is really the rat?

I already answered to your lies in the other post so here I'll just point out how you just exposed yourself by saying that you didn't even know what we were arguing about and chose to use ad hominem while at the same time accusing me of doing it, dumb hypocrite. Since you proved from the first time you argued against me that you're incapable of critique and this isn't even the first time you lie about me, it just shows how me insulting you is nothing more than criticism. I call people subhumans and other mean words only after addressing the points they make. I don't use ad hominem, i attack people only when I can't attack their arguments because they have none. You are a hypocrite, and idiot and a subhuman. You can keep lying and claiming mine are ad hom but it will never be true no matter how much you wish it was.

[FancyMancy]

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You both also need a good f...riend to chill you both the fuck out, as well, but you're both so prudish while being so rude-ish against each other. What's a Mancy to do?! I know - I'll just antagonise you both, 'cause you're both funny... Yeah, that's what you are - funny. Yep.

Before I forget, and before this thread gets locked and you both get cock-blocked by the Mods - I need to post a reply to the OP.

How to make a woman feel extreme lust?
I want this woman to feel lust for me in less than 20 days.

the mantra AUM KLEM KAMADEVAYA NAMAH can it be effective? I think she dates but can I use this mantra to betray her partner?

I need magic tips for urgent lust.

Yo. Didn't you have help with this before?

[Meteor]

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See? Everyone needs a good f...riendly bit of banter to chill them the fuck out!

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Maybe you need a good f...riend, as well!

Now that you mention it, I was thinking recently that I seem to worry about things a bit less after I have a good f...riendly talk with someone I love.
Perhaps you're right, and a good f...riendly conversation to work things out is what people really need when they're upset over something silly that doesn't really matter.

Maybe we can be different and go and paint-- crayon the town beige. That sounds like fun.

I was thinking at first that I don't like beige, but after thinking about it I realised beige would actually look a lot better then most colors. Let's do it.

Well... I suppose by "beige" it means having tea or coffee - or hot chocolate, preferably. Alcohol is too expensive!

I do like me some tea. I like it bitter, without milk or sugar, since it's more refreshing that way, and I feel like anything else just dilutes the taste of the tea. If the tea doesn't taste good on its own, then it's not good tea by my standards. Although a slice of lemon or some mint leaves can be nice.
I wonder, does that make me a tea elitist? A... tealitist?

I only drink coffee when I'm about to take an exam and it's always espresso, but I don't exactly drink that to savor the taste. Hot chocolate is quite nice during these winter days, though.

As for alcohol, I was never a huge fan of it, even though I tried it a few times. While it stops me from overthinking things too much, void meditation is much better way to achieve that, and it feels weird not being able to think properly. I haven't drank any in over a year at this point and decided never to drink any again. I want to be in control of exactly how much I think myself.

[FancyMancy]

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See? Everyone needs a good f...riendly bit of banter to chill them the fuck out!

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Maybe you need a good f...riend, as well!

Now that you mention it, I was thinking recently that I seem to worry about things a bit less after I have a good f...riendly talk with someone I love.
Perhaps you're right, and a good f...riendly conversation to work things out is what people really need when they're upset over something silly that doesn't really matter.

In case anyone misunderstood - I meant fuck.

I was thinking at first that I don't like beige, but after thinking about it I realised beige would actually look a lot better then most colors. Let's do it.

Well... I suppose by "beige" it means having tea or coffee - or hot chocolate, preferably. Alcohol is too expensive!

I do like me some tea. I like it bitter, without milk or sugar, since it's more refreshing that way, and I feel like anything else just dilutes the taste of the tea. If the tea doesn't taste good on its own, then it's not good tea by my standards. Although a slice of lemon or some mint leaves can be nice.
I wonder, does that make me a tea elitist? A... tealitist?

Nah. You're just totally T-total, see? (I wish your name was Lee...!) You might be proficient at tasseomancy.

I only drink coffee when I'm about to take an exam and it's always espresso, but I don't exactly drink that to savor the taste. Hot chocolate is quite nice during these winter days, though.

As for alcohol, I was never a huge fan of it, even though I tried it a few times. While it stops me from overthinking things too much, void meditation is much better way to achieve that, and it feels weird not being able to think properly. I haven't drank any in over a year at this point and decided never to drink any again. I want to be in control of exactly how much I think myself.

Coolio.

[Meteor]

See? Everyone needs a good f...riendly bit of banter to chill them the fuck out!

Maybe you need a good f...riend, as well!

Now that you mention it, I was thinking recently that I seem to worry about things a bit less after I have a good f...riendly talk with someone I love.
Perhaps you're right, and a good f...riendly conversation to work things out is what people really need when they're upset over something silly that doesn't really matter.

In case anyone misunderstood - I meant fuck.

Did you need to be so blunt about it?

Well... I suppose by "beige" it means having tea or coffee - or hot chocolate, preferably. Alcohol is too expensive!

I do like me some tea. I like it bitter, without milk or sugar, since it's more refreshing that way, and I feel like anything else just dilutes the taste of the tea. If the tea doesn't taste good on its own, then it's not good tea by my standards. Although a slice of lemon or some mint leaves can be nice.
I wonder, does that make me a tea elitist? A... tealitist?

Nah. You're just totally T-total, see? (I wish your name was Lee...!) You might be proficient at tasseomancy.

A friend of mine actually asked me to do that once, except with the residue left over from his coffee, and I was like "what significance could there possibly be in a bunch of coffee stains"?
Then I tried it anyway, and to my surprise ended up being rather insightful for both of us. I felt like I understood better what he was going through, and he figured out what he should do regarding something that had been bothering him for a while.

I was always more the type to do divination in my head, but that requires so much focus and can be somewhat draining. Maybe for things that aren't as important I should just look to my tea leaves for advice instead. Either way, all the more reason to make some tea.

[FancyMancy]

Now that you mention it, I was thinking recently that I seem to worry about things a bit less after I have a good f...riendly talk with someone I love.
Perhaps you're right, and a good f...riendly conversation to work things out is what people really need when they're upset over something silly that doesn't really matter.

In case anyone misunderstood - I meant fuck.

Did you need to be so blunt about it?

Yeah. I like to ruffle some people's feathers, and make prudish, Victorian people uncomfortable! >;-D

I do like me some tea. I like it bitter, without milk or sugar, since it's more refreshing that way, and I feel like anything else just dilutes the taste of the tea. If the tea doesn't taste good on its own, then it's not good tea by my standards. Although a slice of lemon or some mint leaves can be nice.
I wonder, does that make me a tea elitist? A... tealitist?

Nah. You're just totally T-total, see? (I wish your name was Lee...!) You might be proficient at tasseomancy.

A friend of mine actually asked me to do that once, except with the residue left over from his coffee, and I was like "what significance could there possibly be in a bunch of coffee stains"?
Then I tried it anyway, and to my surprise ended up being rather insightful for both of us. I felt like I understood better what he was going through, and he figured out what he should do regarding something that had been bothering him for a while.

I was always more the type to do divination in my head, but that requires so much focus and can be somewhat draining. Maybe for things that aren't as important I should just look to my tea leaves for advice instead. Either way, all the more reason to make some tea.

Most people here don't, and can't, understand, but there is always reason to put on some tea - and not just when a friend is in trouble or upset!