If you are undisciplined for routines

[Egon]

If you are that kind of person lacking on Earth and/or Fire who feels like it's almost impossible to stick to a daily routine, you are too unorganized/undisciplined etc., what I personaly do is to create an "artificial" daily schedule with duties and rewards to which I make myself follow rather than trying to force myself figure out which goal is more important for the momment, to end up doing nothing and being frustrated.

If you set a rule to reward yourself after you have accomplished some "duty", these will be seem as more pleasant goals to reach and finish correctly rather than boucotting your efforts with "I must finish it otherwise I won't have a future on life" or other counter-productive mindset. For example, you can make a rule like "I will be allowed to play 40 minutes of games once I have studied this/finished the RTR schedule" etc. Also doing more RTR's will make your life easier and clear your mind, so one process build upon the other.

What I personaly do as example:

Goals-
-Wake up and go to work
-Do the first half of the RTR schedule at home
-Study 3 matters
-Martial arts practice (monday, tuesday, friday)
-Follow my Meditation Program
-The whole RTR schedule or the later half + Reverse Shma again

Rewards-
-Watch 2 anime episodes or 1 movie
-Read 1 manga volume and 1/+ book chapter
-Translate 1 or more pages/articles related to Satanism/NS
*(I find writing at night as the last activity to be more constructive)

[luis]

If you are that kind of person lacking on Earth and/or Fire who feels like it's almost impossible to stick to a daily routine, you are too unorganized/undisciplined etc., what I personaly do is to create an "artificial" daily schedule with duties and rewards to which I make myself follow rather than trying to force myself figure out which goal is more important for the momment, to end up doing nothing and being frustrated.

If you set a rule to reward yourself after you have accomplished some "duty", these will be seem as more pleasant goals to reach and finish correctly rather than boucotting your efforts with "I must finish it otherwise I won't have a future on life" or other counter-productive mindset. For example, you can make a rule like "I will be allowed to play 40 minutes of games once I have studied this/finished the RTR schedule" etc. Also doing more RTR's will make your life easier and clear your mind, so one process build upon the other.

What I personaly do as example:

Goals-
-Wake up and go to work
-Do the first half of the RTR schedule at home
-Study 3 matters
-Martial arts practice (monday, tuesday, friday)
-Follow my Meditation Program
-The whole RTR schedule or the later half + Reverse Shma again

Rewards-
-Watch 2 anime episodes or 1 movie
-Read 1 manga volume and 1/+ book chapter
-Translate 1 or more pages/articles related to Satanism/NS
*(I find writing at night as the last activity to be more constructive)

I have a lot of earth and the problem is that even if It make me stick to the routine that i do It make me want to sleep a lot and is horrible...my grandmother said that all the family of my grandfather was like this and i feel is the earth element that is too much.
I'm saing this because if anyone has this problem and read this just try to balance your element's and maybe a sun or Mars square for more energy.

By the way i really like your idea Egon, this will help a lot of people that are lazy about meditations, it will trick the mind with making them love doing meditation

[Egon]

There are situations where the lack of motivation/discipline can get people in a vicious cicle:
Feels unmotivated => tries new meditations => fails to keep it constant => gets frustrated => feels unmotivated.

So imo they should both work spiritualy and develop their method to keep a routine

I'm saing this because if anyone has this problem and read this just try to balance your element's and maybe a sun or Mars square for more energy.

[ZirGohed999]

Honestly, It all boils down to the lack of true willpower. The sun is strong is in Aries, Mars is also strong. You can use runes that strengthen the will, and give be you the ability to stay active.

Just a side joke: If one has to listen to an entire rock album before they can summon all the "weak"power they have to do the dirty laundry they have been keeping for days then they are not truly advanced..lol
It takes an incredibly powerful Solar Chakra to realize your magic quickly and while you are powering the it, your life will start falling in place seamlessly. You don't have to "force" yourself to do things.

[luis]

There are situations where the lack of motivation/discipline can get people in a vicious cicle:
Feels unmotivated => tries new meditations => fails to keep it constant => gets frustrated => feels unmotivated.

So imo they should both work spiritualy and develop their method to keep a routine

I'm saing this because if anyone has this problem and read this just try to balance your element's and maybe a sun or Mars square for more energy.

Yes of course both method togheter will work better.

[LaconicLion]

What would be a good example of a rune working for willpower? How about this?

NAUTHIZ #10
URUZ #2
SOL #16
10 = 1, 16 = 7. 7, 2, 1. Lowest common multiple is 14.

URUZ x 14
"The energies of URUZ are greatly increasing my courage, boldness and sexual energy in a healthy and positive way."
NAUTHIZ x 14
"The energies of NAUTHIZ are greatly increasing my willpower and endurance in a healthy and positive way."
SOL x 14
"The energies of SOL are inciting me to great action and vastly increasing my confidence in a healthy and positive way."

And visualize the rune empowering your soul while vibrating.

Thoughts and suggestions?

[Stormblood]

What would be a good example of a rune working for willpower? How about this?

NAUTHIZ #10
URUZ #2
SOL #16
10 = 1, 16 = 7. 7, 2, 1. Lowest common multiple is 14.

URUZ x 14
"The energies of URUZ are greatly increasing my courage, boldness and sexual energy in a healthy and positive way."
NAUTHIZ x 14
"The energies of NAUTHIZ are greatly increasing my willpower and endurance in a healthy and positive way."
SOL x 14
"The energies of SOL are inciting me to great action and vastly increasing my confidence in a healthy and positive way."

And visualize the rune empowering your soul while vibrating.

Thoughts and suggestions?

These are three different workings and most people are most likely to dilute the energies too much in performing all of them at the same time. Pick one or two at most.

If you are beginning now with rune magick, it is best to stick to one rune.

I don't think the numbers you chose are legit. I remember a sermon where it was stated that the minimum number of the runic vibrations is 24 or 26. Also, that all of them should be either a multiple of their original number or a power number (40, 88, 108, 216, 666...) You are not supposed to reduce them to single-digit numbers either.

Also, remember that each letter of the rune is to be vibrated into one chakra. That makes them more powerful and more effectively connects the pathways for the energy. For example, Os are vibrated in the left extensions (be it left temple, left shoulder or left hip according to the rune shape), Is are vibrated in the right extensions, Es are vibrated in the front extensions, As are for the rear extensions. I don't know exactly all matches but I think it's sensible to theorise this: L is of the base chakra, V of the sacral, R of the solar plexus, Y of the heart chakra, H of the throat, TH of the sixth, M of the crown...

If anyone has some old sermon with examples about where single letters of the runes are to be vibrated, it would be nice of them to please link it. I need it too.

In my opinion, Naudh is the best for willpower but it may bring out some nasty shit too. It's a harsh rune and, of course, willpower is not something that you develop easily anyway.

[ZirGohed999]

I advise you to use sowilo, it is the rune of the sun. It makes you willful, strong and active. I would advise that you pick one rune and focus on it like a laser at very high reps rather than spreading your energies thin. SAUIL it is gothic variation which is more powerful.
"S-S-AH-AH-U-U-U-L-L-L"
"My willpower is totally, completely and permanently increased in a very healthy and positive way for me".
Your willpower is your energetic determination, unwavering strength of desire to carry out your decisions.
You can add the sun square into the mix, I don't know about your constitution but in my case my body temperature increases drastically and it becomes very hot to touch after vibrating the square. People with good body constitution can handle more energy and progress faster.

[Liberate4free666]

I have zero fire and am deficient in earth, Air being predominant. This arrange is largely in conducive for discipline and it has been a major downfall for advancement.

I've tried various 'fixes' to say, but they didn't last. Long working on discipline needs discipline, it's a catch 22.

From my experience, discipline is obtained on physical, mental and spritual levels.

Physical - Get your testosterone levels checked. This hormone is what makes a man 'Man'. Is it said that the testosterone levels of a healthy adult male has dropped to a third. Diet, food, plastic, chemicals and water additives depletes testosterone.
What I do - I regime is strength training, Brazilian jui jutsu (combat sport) and a clean diet. I take natural ayurvedic testostrone booster like Shilajit and safed musli. After taking these, the results are day and night.

Mental - Watch your thoughts, how you treat yourself and react to situations. Doing 1 hr of working on discipline and the rest 23 hrs having a defeatist attitude, is self sabotaging. It hinders you further because you lose hope that nothing is working for you.
What I do - I have gratitude journal, in which i write 3 things i'm great full (it has to mean for you) for every morning. This sets the day on a positive note. If I get into a negative situation, I re-frame my internal dialogue - " This instance i'm feeling anxious, why ? I'm facing it head on. I'm learning from this and overcoming it. "

Spiritual - I don't have to say much, as most people are aware. 3 rd chakra is powerhouse of the soul and where will-power is seated. What I've found is just empowering solar chakra feels good for a few hours and drops down, It is yo-yoing up and down. There was a point where, in my mind it was like a crutch/addiction, if didn't do solar working- would cause a lot of fear.
What I do - [IMO] Strong base and sacral chakras are a prerequisite if you want permanence and effectiveness of solar workings. Kundalini has to flow from base to sacral to solar to continually nourish it.

In the old forums, I think sativaar had a post on importance of base chakra.

Hope this helps!

Hail Satan

[luis]

I advise you to use sowilo, it is the rune of the sun. It makes you willful, strong and active. I would advise that you pick one rune and focus on it like a laser at very high reps rather than spreading your energies thin. SAUIL it is gothic variation which is more powerful.
"S-S-AH-AH-U-U-U-L-L-L"
"My willpower is totally, completely and permanently increased in a very healthy and positive way for me".
Your willpower is your energetic determination, unwavering strength of desire to carry out your decisions.
You can add the sun square into the mix, I don't know about your constitution but in my case my body temperature increases drastically and it becomes very hot to touch after vibrating the square. People with good body constitution can handle more energy and progress faster.

Even more powerful is Saulo
Maybe you have a lot of the air element in you? People that have a lot of air and are a 'Vata' type can't hold a lot of energy.

[LaconicLion]

Thanks for the helpful advice. Focusing on one rune and doing more reps does make more sense. If you had the source for that rune sermon, it would be great.

[Stormblood]

This is all I could find as what concerns sermons on the runes:

» Runes and the Temple of the Sun (HP Mageson October 26, 2013) - https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/JoS ... ssages/521
» Runes and the Sacred Tree (HP Mageson October 14, 2013)- https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/JoS ... ssages/516
» This sermon talks a little about what I said (HP Maxine Dietrich October 8, 201)3 - https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/JoS ... ssages/512

The third sermon provides examples for VAUNYO and FEHU and it seems I was wrong about V. It makes sense because V is also a letter of the serpent.

Further indications about how to tackle a working seriously: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Joy ... pics/62738 This is an old sermon by HP Hooded Cobra. It tackles workings from all levels (mental, physical and spiritual) and it comes in levels (beginner, intermediate, advanced, further). It's for something else but it can be adjusted for any purpose if you know what you're doing.