Not sure where to put this. Allow me to introduce myself.

[Lucifer-LeGivorden]

@Catalincata94

So you say, we should understand that you are a Big important Satanist but we should not acknowledge the importance of it, like i am important but i am not important.

I'll not go into the majority of your post as it covers 99% of what others have said. However you've taken something from it that I never said. Please look over my posts again and tell me where I said I was some Big important hot shot in the Satanic community? I didn't. I said I had been around for a number of years and have in my time gone through formal training in my youth. I never claimed any sort of importance.

If I was some big shot in the Satanic Community, why would I even bother being here? Why not start my own group? Certainly if I am as big as you claim I stated I was, such a thing wouldn't be a problem for me. And it would go viral right? So why am I here looking to expand my current knowledge.

I never made such a claim, and I would politely ask that you do not put words in my mouth.

Thank you

You didn't said directly "I am a big Satanist" but when you say this it has that meaning.

I will ask you to check yourself though dude. Telling me that I'm not well rounded is a bit of a stupid move as with a little research would have told you some of who I am. I've been a student of the occult since around the age of 12. Before that I started studying religion aggressively at age 8. I am now almost 40 years of age. I have studied multiple religions from the Zoroastrian descended religions, to the eastern Arabian religions, all the way to the far eastern zen cultures, and most of everything between. I have authored dissertations and articles on spirituality, the occult, metaphysics, religion, Demonology, Angelogy, and more. I've actively studied multiple forms of occult arts from Voodoo, Hoodoo, and Santeria, to Wicca and Druidry. My fields in Satanism is definitively and primarily Laveyan pre 1975. Making me a theistic Laveyan. (So different than the normal lack luster atheist wannabe Laveyans running around out there.) Secondary Satanic systems have been, Setianism, Cthullianism, Lucifarian, and Sithism, (yes as in the star wars based Sithism. Go ahead and laugh now, it really is hilarious, but oddly functional.), and lastly the vampire brands of Satanism. 

And yes I am very aware of JoS's stand point on all of those systems. I respect it too. So please do not act like I'm some dumb teen new to the field of the occult arts. I'm a nearly 30 year veteran in the field with my boots on the ground in the real world.

If you where or not in 100 places of the outside world if you want to join us you start at 0 you can have 30 years of experience in hunting but if you join the army you start from 0 and as for the armys concerne the one who is hunting doesn't know shit about the army.

Ok so this come with that classic exasperated sigh. At least you admit to putting words in my mouth. Why is it that people can't help but to add deeper context to things rather than take them at face value. I say what I meen. I don't add in any hidden or deeper context. Think about this. I am coming in here openly as a Laveyan. As such I adhere to LaVey's Rules, Sins, and Statements. Do you know what the 3rd Rule of the Earth is? Please do go look it up.

Yes I still must learn JoS's Codes of Conduct. But until that time I'm certain folks will forgive my use of the Laveyan ways as a general moral guide here.

I'm sorry if you feel that I am acting like some big shot. It honestly isn't my intentions as I have made ubundentlly clear. What's more is if you check the forums and ask the moderators I'm certain you will find that I seem to have for the time being, quarantined my self to this one thread until such times I have enough understanding to enter the rest of the forum without using my more outsider mentality.

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Read these articals! A lot of those "satanist" groups are just ignorant losers totally soaked in Qlippothic poison and nonsense. So you should understand about all that.

Satanism and Goetia http://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10657 

Goetic Enns? Fake and Disrespectful, or Legit? http://Www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5688 

The Qlippothic Kabbalah   http://Www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic ... 89&p=17839

Qlippoth  http://Www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1695 

[sunrise]

Hey there folks! Sorry if this is in the wrong spot as I have no clue where to introduce myself. Moderators, if this is in the wrong spot please correct it. Thanks.

Ok so here we go. I'm Lucifer LeGivor. Most folks call me Legi online. I don't really care what I'm called as long as it's not "late for dinner". Lol.

Ok bad joke I know.

I am a solitary practitioner and am not affiliated with any particular Satanic organization as I tend to not fit in with most. "Why is that?" you may ask.

Well before anyone freaks out on me. I'm not a Gilmore flunky. Nor one of his Itheist/Atheist sheeple who use the term "Satanist" simply for the shock factor. I do however identify as a "Classical" or "Theistic" Laveyan. This of course is a reference to the pre-1975 schism of the CoS that brought around the ToS.

That being said I do understand the terms here, and will only discuss my personal views when directly asked about them. Aside from that folks can visit my YouTube channel for more info there.

So what is a Laveyan of any sort doing here? Looking for some like minded folks. Not only spiritually, but politically and morally. In short and to those who get my meaning, 88.

So a bit of my background. I've been around the net since the days of AOL. And have been an active Satanist for over a decade. Before that I was a Wiccan High Priest formally train via the three year apprenticeship to an Alexandrian/Gradinarian coven. Not one of the little ones either. I'm talking about the big international one with direct linkage to Dr. Gardner. So serious old school Wicca.

I left Wicca around 2007 or so and took on the mantle of Satanist after of course reading LaVeys book. By 2011 I published my first book on Satanism called "The Satanic Testament". (You can find it on amazon.)

My current projects are writing a revised and expended version of my book and working on another. I'm also active on YouTube, where I post videos covering topics from politics to movies and finally Satanism directly. I recently posted a video of a solo Black Mass ritual.

There is more to me obviously. Current hobbies include being a Dad, writing, vloging, training my dogs, and rocking my xbox. I'm a classic movie buff, and I do enjoy a bit of tongue in cheek humor.

Thanks for taking the time to read this and I hope to meet some interesting folks.

Lucifer LeGivor

Hey hello, and welcome!!!

I want to give you a warm welcome here and we're totally happy to have new people enquiring about SS.
What I politely advice you is to read and study all the materials available, websites, sermons, etc attached by other members as they are written and researched by our HP. I can promise you that you will find most if not all your answers there.
It might take you a while to put all the information together, but once you get it, there will be no more doubts. Again, you truly need to research it individually and at your own peace.

Unfortunately, we have here members who can get a bit paranoid, infiltrators, people with different ages and education levels, etc etc; We are a satanic family but we cannot control every single reaction.

I want to apologise in their name, in the names of the ones who maybe made you question our quality as a WHOLE and Community.

If you are indeed and truly interested, we are looking forward to hearing back from you.

Give this thing a real chance and don't miss this train, you will thank me later.

[Lucifer-LeGivorden]

You speak as if this “Old school satanism” is the best or it’s real satanism or something, also about wicca, it’s just christianized paganism, real wicca, fake wicca, whatever, they are still programs made for the goyim to not find out about real powers that you can get from real meditation that you find on the JoyOfSatan website. Being a wiccan high priest or something doesent make you important or special, especially here on these forums, quite the opposite actually.

You're exactly right. And as I pointed out, I never made such a claim. I gave my background simply from a point of politeness. Think of it this way. If you're an employer and looking for a new employee. You get two guys. One is a young freshman right out of college. The other is older with field experience. Both require training to your way of doing things. Would you however choose the inexperienced freshman? Or the veteran? Logic says the guy with the field experience gets the job. You don't have as much training to do with him as he should logically get what you're saying faster than the freshy. Is it the veteran strutting his shit when he hands you a solid resumé?

[Catalincata94]

@Catalincata94



I'll not go into the majority of your post as it covers 99% of what others have said. However you've taken something from it that I never said. Please look over my posts again and tell me where I said I was some Big important hot shot in the Satanic community? I didn't. I said I had been around for a number of years and have in my time gone through formal training in my youth. I never claimed any sort of importance.

If I was some big shot in the Satanic Community, why would I even bother being here? Why not start my own group? Certainly if I am as big as you claim I stated I was, such a thing wouldn't be a problem for me. And it would go viral right? So why am I here looking to expand my current knowledge.

I never made such a claim, and I would politely ask that you do not put words in my mouth.

Thank you

You didn't said directly "I am a big Satanist" but when you say this it has that meaning.

I will ask you to check yourself though dude. Telling me that I'm not well rounded is a bit of a stupid move as with a little research would have told you some of who I am. I've been a student of the occult since around the age of 12. Before that I started studying religion aggressively at age 8. I am now almost 40 years of age. I have studied multiple religions from the Zoroastrian descended religions, to the eastern Arabian religions, all the way to the far eastern zen cultures, and most of everything between. I have authored dissertations and articles on spirituality, the occult, metaphysics, religion, Demonology, Angelogy, and more. I've actively studied multiple forms of occult arts from Voodoo, Hoodoo, and Santeria, to Wicca and Druidry. My fields in Satanism is definitively and primarily Laveyan pre 1975. Making me a theistic Laveyan. (So different than the normal lack luster atheist wannabe Laveyans running around out there.) Secondary Satanic systems have been, Setianism, Cthullianism, Lucifarian, and Sithism, (yes as in the star wars based Sithism. Go ahead and laugh now, it really is hilarious, but oddly functional.), and lastly the vampire brands of Satanism. 

And yes I am very aware of JoS's stand point on all of those systems. I respect it too. So please do not act like I'm some dumb teen new to the field of the occult arts. I'm a nearly 30 year veteran in the field with my boots on the ground in the real world.

If you where or not in 100 places of the outside world if you want to join us you start at 0 you can have 30 years of experience in hunting but if you join the army you start from 0 and as for the armys concerne the one who is hunting doesn't know shit about the army.

Ok so this come with that classic exasperated sigh. At least you admit to putting words in my mouth. Why is it that people can't help but to add deeper context to things rather than take them at face value. I say what I meen. I don't add in any hidden or deeper context. Think about this. I am coming in here openly as a Laveyan. As such I adhere to LaVey's Rules, Sins, and Statements. Do you know what the 3rd Rule of the Earth is? Please do go look it up.

Yes I still must learn JoS's Codes of Conduct. But until that time I'm certain folks will forgive my use of the Laveyan ways as a general moral guide here.

I'm sorry if you feel that I am acting like some big shot. It honestly isn't my intentions as I have made ubundentlly clear. What's more is if you check the forums and ask the moderators I'm certain you will find that I seem to have for the time being, quarantined my self to this one thread until such times I have enough understanding to enter the rest of the forum without using my more outsider mentality.

Just read the website and make your decision in dedicating or not.

I adhere to LaVey's Rules, Sins, and Statements. Do you know what the 3rd Rule of the Earth is? Please do go look it up.

No need to look it up those rules are not of the earth if not all are adhering to them. Just because a few people adhere to them from 7 billion people it doesn't makes them the rules of the earth.
Just saying my point of view but better don't talk about them here nor about Laveian's ideology.

[Lucifer-LeGivorden]

Hey there folks! Sorry if this is in the wrong spot as I have no clue where to introduce myself. Moderators, if this is in the wrong spot please correct it. Thanks.

Ok so here we go. I'm Lucifer LeGivor. Most folks call me Legi online. I don't really care what I'm called as long as it's not "late for dinner". Lol.

Ok bad joke I know.

I am a solitary practitioner and am not affiliated with any particular Satanic organization as I tend to not fit in with most. "Why is that?" you may ask.

Well before anyone freaks out on me. I'm not a Gilmore flunky. Nor one of his Itheist/Atheist sheeple who use the term "Satanist" simply for the shock factor. I do however identify as a "Classical" or "Theistic" Laveyan. This of course is a reference to the pre-1975 schism of the CoS that brought around the ToS.

That being said I do understand the terms here, and will only discuss my personal views when directly asked about them. Aside from that folks can visit my YouTube channel for more info there.

So what is a Laveyan of any sort doing here? Looking for some like minded folks. Not only spiritually, but politically and morally. In short and to those who get my meaning, 88.

So a bit of my background. I've been around the net since the days of AOL. And have been an active Satanist for over a decade. Before that I was a Wiccan High Priest formally train via the three year apprenticeship to an Alexandrian/Gradinarian coven. Not one of the little ones either. I'm talking about the big international one with direct linkage to Dr. Gardner. So serious old school Wicca.

I left Wicca around 2007 or so and took on the mantle of Satanist after of course reading LaVeys book. By 2011 I published my first book on Satanism called "The Satanic Testament". (You can find it on amazon.)

My current projects are writing a revised and expended version of my book and working on another. I'm also active on YouTube, where I post videos covering topics from politics to movies and finally Satanism directly. I recently posted a video of a solo Black Mass ritual.

There is more to me obviously. Current hobbies include being a Dad, writing, vloging, training my dogs, and rocking my xbox. I'm a classic movie buff, and I do enjoy a bit of tongue in cheek humor.

Thanks for taking the time to read this and I hope to meet some interesting folks.

Lucifer LeGivor

Hey hello, and welcome!!!

I want to give you a warm welcome here and we're totally happy to have new people enquiring about SS.
What I politely advice you is to read and study all the materials available, websites, sermons, etc attached by other members as they are written and researched by our HP. I can promise you that you will find most if not all your answers there.
It might take you a while to put all the information together, but once you get it, there will be no more doubts. Again, you truly need to research it individually and at your own peace.

Unfortunately, we have here members who can get a bit paranoid, infiltrators, people with different ages and education levels, etc etc; We are a satanic family but we cannot control every single reaction.

I want to apologise in their name, in the names of the ones who maybe made you question our quality as a WHOLE and Community.

If you are indeed and truly interested, we are looking forward to hearing back from you.

Give this thing a real chance and don't miss this train, you will thank me later.

Thank you for the warm welcome. I try not to judge a group based on it's members. Especially in this situation. I base it on the quality of its information, clergy, and work put into its research.

I am reaching a decision though as I almost half way through a recommended link that apparently explains the core philosophy of JoS.

Thanks again, and no worries about the suspicious ones. Its understandable.

[Lucifer-LeGivorden]

Read these articals! A lot of those "satanist" groups are just ignorant losers totally soaked in Qlippothic poison and nonsense. So you should understand about all that.

Satanism and Goetia http://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10657 

Goetic Enns? Fake and Disrespectful, or Legit? http://Www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5688 

The Qlippothic Kabbalah   http://Www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic ... 89&p=17839

Qlippoth  http://Www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1695 

Thanks man will do.

[Aquarius]

You speak as if this “Old school satanism” is the best or it’s real satanism or something, also about wicca, it’s just christianized paganism, real wicca, fake wicca, whatever, they are still programs made for the goyim to not find out about real powers that you can get from real meditation that you find on the JoyOfSatan website. Being a wiccan high priest or something doesent make you important or special, especially here on these forums, quite the opposite actually.

You're exactly right. And as I pointed out, I never made such a claim. I gave my background simply from a point of politeness. Think of it this way. If you're an employer and looking for a new employee. You get two guys. One is a young freshman right out of college. The other is older with field experience. Both require training to your way of doing things. Would you however choose the inexperienced freshman? Or the veteran? Logic says the guy with the field experience gets the job. You don't have as much training to do with him as he should logically get what you're saying faster than the freshy. Is it the veteran strutting his shit when he hands you a solid resumé?

I understand exactly what you mean but this is not a solid resume it’s exactly like saying that you were a Christian for 20 years, as you stated previously you said that you’re not going to deny I your own past 30 or whatever years of say you regret them but if you are really serious about learning true Satanism then you will eventually understand that they were a waste of time. Here we all begin as noobs, it’s undeniable. Here there are ex-Muslims and ex-Christians and whatever other religion of the enemy and they have all accepted that Islam and Christianity are just disgusting program to make sheep out of people and to create a Jewish communist utopia, so why shouldn’t someone reject the other teachings of the enemy which just look like paganism but completely corrupted.

[Lucifer-LeGivorden]

To the moderators who pass posts. Please delete my account from this forum. After having read through a fair amount of the material on this forum and the primary website, I feel that I now have enough info to conclude that I am fundamentally incompatible with Joy of Satan. My thanks goes out to those moderators and members who helped point me to the correct material to read. I will not be returning to this forum in the future and intend to logout permanently.

Thank you again and 88 to all of you.

Lucifer LeGivorden

[GG Allin]

Think of it this way. If you're an employer and looking for a new employee. You get two guys. One is a young freshman right out of college. The other is older with field experience. Both require training to your way of doing things. Would you however choose the inexperienced freshman? Or the veteran? Logic says the guy with the field experience gets the job. You don't have as much training to do with him as he should logically get what you're saying faster than the freshy. Is it the veteran strutting his shit when he hands you a solid resumé?

The problem in your case is the abrahamic elements in which you did delve with your magic, satanic magic/energy vs abrahamic is like connecting water to fire (will produce much steam/problems). Applyed to your exampel, this would be like you hired a well experienced construction worker for a watchmaker job. The construction worker knows most of the elements and maybe even tools required for the job, but has not the flair of a watchmaker.

Well after you did deprogramme and dedicate so you have the protection of satan
you could start with the 40 days meditation program.
After that you can do a dayly shedule like :

AC Aura cleaning
CS Chakra spin
AOP Aura of protection
Void Meditation
Final RTR
Returning Curses 1 und 2
Hatha Joga
Kundalini Joga
Working on Chakras

If you follow the

"Eight Fold Path:

1- Asanas: Physical Position: Hatha Yoga, Kundalini Yoga, The Five TIbetans & Tai Chi.
2- Pranayama: Breathing Exercises .
3- Dhyana: Meditation.
4- Mantras: Vibration of words of Power.
5- Yantras: Meditation upon Sigils and Symbols ( Used along with Vibration of Mantras )
6- Mudras: Hand Positions which activate the Vril.
7- Bandhas: Energy Locks which stimulate and direct the serpent.
8- Maithuna: Sexual Activity ( Orgams very important ..)"


From the Post :

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=18092

You will perfect your body. Have fun on your jorney. Welcome.

[FancyMancy]

To the moderators who pass posts. Please delete my account from this forum. After having read through a fair amount of the material on this forum and the primary website, I feel that I now have enough info to conclude that I am fundamentally incompatible with Joy of Satan. My thanks goes out to those moderators and members who helped point me to the correct material to read. I will not be returning to this forum in the future and intend to logout permanently.

Thank you again and 88 to all of you.

Lucifer LeGivorden

Later! If you're around when Satan and some of the Gods and Goddesses return, then don't be upset.

[GG Allin]

To the moderators who pass posts. Please delete my account from this forum. After having read through a fair amount of the material on this forum and the primary website, I feel that I now have enough info to conclude that I am fundamentally incompatible with Joy of Satan. My thanks goes out to those moderators and members who helped point me to the correct material to read. I will not be returning to this forum in the future and intend to logout permanently.

Thank you again and 88 to all of you.

Lucifer LeGivorden

Later! If you're around when Satan and some of the Gods and Goddesses return, then don't be upset.

For his own safety he can say it like this and go on with a other acc.

[FancyMancy]

To the moderators who pass posts. Please delete my account from this forum. After having read through a fair amount of the material on this forum and the primary website, I feel that I now have enough info to conclude that I am fundamentally incompatible with Joy of Satan. My thanks goes out to those moderators and members who helped point me to the correct material to read. I will not be returning to this forum in the future and intend to logout permanently.

Thank you again and 88 to all of you.

Lucifer LeGivorden

Later! If you're around when Satan and some of the Gods and Goddesses return, then don't be upset.

For his own safety he can say it like this and go on with a other acc.

Yeah, but I'll pretend that I was right when I said he wouldn't last for very long. "It's true in my head", so that's good enough for me! If he does/has/will return, then he should type and structure sentences & formatting differently enough, as well.

[satanichonor]

Later! If you're around when Satan and some of the Gods and Goddesses return, then don't be upset.

For his own safety he can say it like this and go on with a other acc.

Yeah, but I'll pretend that I was right when I said he wouldn't last for very long. "It's true in my head", so that's good enough for me! If he does/has/will return, then he should type and structure sentences & formatting differently enough, as well.

He completely is a doughnut and honestly hasn't researched and based his intuition doesn't even know who jews are... bashing us using here is his video on what "I Investigated Joy of Satan." https://www.*****
He says he understands Joyofsatan is National socialist wanting to defend race because it is not doing well then why is he saying we went overboard with reverse torah... he is dumb. (period)
His jokes or whatever on this thread they were disgusting no wonder why he looks like jelly...
He calls us batshit nuts and dangerous for only a reason of not training to build an astral temple, Why would you need help building an astral temple? And what is so dangerous about teaching the soul because that is what we do here?
He is also saying that our website is our bible when that is not true he is putting words in our mouth, saying that people need to read books about occult as seen in the video he is picking up books that are actually detrimental, we all read books and that is the key in Satanism, books are sacred, at least the right ones, the Joy of Satan meditations are just mandatory.
This guy is telling even us to get away from JoyofSatan like 7 times and to tell anybody that...annoying "It's about time we shut it down." who that sounds like... hmm, this guy has to be part of the tribe... Making up stuff as well saying that we said the Gods were going to come back to earth in another 170 years and then changed it to 20 years, nothing pisses more than liars... this guy is lying, I stay updated with maxines post and she never mentioned the gods coming before. I couldn't stand this guy must be drinking I've seen very dumb people drink and tell you their horrible intuition, and speak shit. "leave politely" because you are a two-faced care bare.
I bet you never had one experience with Satan or any entity cause you are an ugly doughnut / not in desire with Father Satan's teachings.

Go ask alice when she's 10 feet tall @ Givorden
Thank god you're gone I couldn't take anymore of your horrible intuition just prejudice you are apparently terrible at researching that is not research hahaha.
Alot of people that don't like the Joy of satan can't even the right books they want to read Dean Koontz the bible, lavey and nothing to do with the soul or something and tell you oh fuck, get away from them.. Don't put down any Satanic sect down how about that because would you rather have annoying christians preach to you, probably...because you're a doughnut. I love the joy of satan, I am very thankful for Satan.

[satanichonor]

This guy is coocoo for the jewjew of course I found this thread again by typing in Lavey to find this his dumb shitposting... His reasoning "satanic sects should all collaborate." wtf is his video then. He said he joined the thread the fact that we are National Socialist ("We went over board with reverse torah rituals") What the in the hell do you mean join another organization? What the fuck more do you want? Have you read the protocols of zion? The jews do curse humanity and they need to be undone!
This guy is fucking dumb. Hit his head out of bed or some shit.

[FancyMancy]

Making up stuff as well saying that we said the Gods were going to come back to earth in another 170 years and then changed it to 20 years, nothing pisses more than liars... this guy is lying, I stay updated with maxines post and she never mentioned the gods coming before.

You might want to check again...

[Scion of Atlantis]

He was a useless sack of human trash just as my intuition suspected. Hilarious that these psuedo-satanic types think they actually have some importance to Satan or Satanism, yet at the end of the day, they're just obesse mountain dew sorcerers who can barely get 50 views on their YouTube videos and 5 shekels from their Jewish handlers.

[Powstanie Pogańskie]

This guy is coocoo for the jewjew of course I found this thread again by typing in Lavey to find this his dumb shitposting... His reasoning "satanic sects should all collaborate." wtf is his video then. He said he joined the thread the fact that we are National Socialist ("We went over board with reverse torah rituals") What the in the hell do you mean join another organization? What the fuck more do you want? Have you read the protocols of zion? The jews do curse humanity and they need to be undone!
This guy is fucking dumb. Hit his head out of bed or some shit.

"Going overboard with the RTRs" is irrefutably Jew-speak for "please stop doing the RTRs." Granted he'd just look at me saying this and think "oh figures, another JoSer labeling people who disagree Jews", but it only stands to reason.

If the RTRs were no big deal, if they didn't actually do shit, we'd be encouraged to do them by the enemy. They'd want us spending time on that rather than engaging in other forms of warfare like spreading information. Instead it's always people coming in, trying to push in one form or another, "you know I'm not really sure if the RTR is a good idea." And then the siren goes off for every genuine Satanist who feels the poisonous intent behind those words as much as they see it.

All it takes is doing the RTR to feel the effects it has. They're going to try regardless, but there's nothing they can do to convince those who have experienced it that the RTR isn't worth doing. This person's sole purpose now, is to incite further action and serve as proof that our spiritual efforts are cleaving them to bloody pieces.

[NinRick]

This guy is coocoo for the jewjew of course I found this thread again by typing in Lavey to find this his dumb shitposting... His reasoning "satanic sects should all collaborate." wtf is his video then. He said he joined the thread the fact that we are National Socialist ("We went over board with reverse torah rituals") What the in the hell do you mean join another organization? What the fuck more do you want? Have you read the protocols of zion? The jews do curse humanity and they need to be undone!
This guy is fucking dumb. Hit his head out of bed or some shit.

Yeah I can not stand him as well. Welp at least he was right about one thing, we are dangerous.
But this doesn’t mean that we will harm anyone.
Not gonna lie tho, he is tempting me since he left himself wideee open for attacks. But then again we have billion better things to do.

[Gear88]

I have completely forgotten about this till "satanichonor" bumped it up.

I watched his video and albeit it's like some light bashing basically don't go to it. But I can't help but take up his challenge. I'm sure others have read those materials and they go "...and then what?"; there is a reason why a lot of people who check out Satanism find us and go "What was I reading before hand".

I don't know I guess when people are told to meditate that it becomes a problem. His other problem is he states the material we have is plagiarized and that if sold on the market as books would make Maxine(Andrea) a fortune. He does have a physical reaction kinda stating "Why it's free, I don't understand".

Also the whole RTR thing, personally I never felt like RTRs did anything if they do something, they do something. But honestly I think it's just the way the world works. One person like myself isn't gonna change anything. So if the RTR/RNTRs work then my best guess is it's just another person who feels like religions must exist (((cuz coexist))).

The sheer fact is I'm glad the person doesn't bash National Socialism. Reminds me of Styxhexenhammer666, JoS is NatSoc, but that is okay no problems there.

My main concern is peoples attitude towards the political side. I've seen at least one person(JoS is antisimetic in his words, Lydia replied back but I guess the person freaked out) but have seen others when delving into anti-JoS groups the National Socialist principle really sets them ablaze with this anti-political attitude. It's straight out of a anti-fa rally like sensation.

At the very least yes he does bash us but it's so light and playful it begs the question if he isn't in some conundrum going "Are THEY right?" Which is very funny cause he states we aren't correct or proper simply because we don't have books or bibles or whatever and he simply just goes MUCH like other anti-JoS members, Joy of Satan is an e-cult.

My best guess is this person states we are a joke and almost out of the minds of other occultist and Satanic groups. I think this person is downplaying something in the fabric of these organizations. My best guess is that at some point in time these groups freaked out and went "Get our shit together and resist them".

I can't help but think this video is a joke. Why expose yourself, why the tattoo(pentagram like kinda reminds me of years ago when the heartshaped pentagram became popular due to that band using it for their cover art a bunch of people got that tattoo, Him the band I think, heartagram). I mean why go through the trouble of infiltrating some website in an open manner when you should realize we aren't prancing around with Lavey or Gilmore or some other potentially Satanic information that could mean he correlates it to his own stuff.

It's a shame the person kinda went up and left reminds me of a friend of mines from another state when I told him about the website. And them being christian stated it's just hindu stuff without hindu people stating it. I was like did you even read the website?

What can I say we can't convince everyone and being elitist and initiatory like HP Jake stated in one of his sermons. Isn't fit for everyone, I guess in the end it's one of those if situations you just gotta roll with the punches from criticism. If we aren't here to proselytize then, it's up to them and this person decided not for me. It's okay like I said can't convince nor should we forcibly convince. Maybe in the future.

It reminds me of anti-JoS people. More than once someone freaked out, decided to return, months or years later, then they decided to join. Well I guess our material left an imprint in the person. Did we put a gun to their head nope but perhaps what they needed is just time to realize.

Time to realize. Maybe this person might return in the future.

[satanichonor]

Making up stuff as well saying that we said the Gods were going to come back to earth in another 170 years and then changed it to 20 years, nothing pisses more than liars... this guy is lying, I stay updated with maxines post and she never mentioned the gods coming before.

You might want to check again...

Yeah I was very angry and meant I never heard maxine stated 170 years, but I did read 20 years.

[Scion of Atlantis]

This guy is coocoo for the jewjew of course I found this thread again by typing in Lavey to find this his dumb shitposting... His reasoning "satanic sects should all collaborate." wtf is his video then. He said he joined the thread the fact that we are National Socialist ("We went over board with reverse torah rituals") What the in the hell do you mean join another organization? What the fuck more do you want? Have you read the protocols of zion? The jews do curse humanity and they need to be undone!
This guy is fucking dumb. Hit his head out of bed or some shit.

Yeah I can not stand him as well. Welp at least he was right about one thing, we are dangerous.
But this doesn’t mean that we will harm anyone.
Not gonna lie tho, he is tempting me since he left himself wideee open for attacks. But then again we have billion better things to do.

Very unwise of him to post his garbage video while the Astrology favors black magic. We may not need to lift a finger however due to the protect JoS rituals that were done in the past. Those who spread lies about JoS and curse us are cursed, and those who bless us are blessed.

[Ol argedco luciftias]

wideee

If you are going to stretch a word, why not stretch the vowel "i" in the middle of it? You stretch the silent e on the end that doesn't have a sound anyway.

[Lydia]

When I first found the JoS, I just ignored the politic part of it. I've always been drawn to spirituality, witchcraft, and meditating. But after some time doing the JoS power meditations, I came over to the political side, as being National Socialist isn't just about politics, race is in itself spirituality. AS the Gods have said, Our Race Is Our Nation, and our race is our soul/spiritual group.

[Scion of Atlantis]

When I first found the JoS, I just ignored the politic part of it. I've always been drawn to spirituality, witchcraft, and meditating. But after some time doing the JoS power meditations, I came over to the political side, as being National Socialist isn't just about politics, race is in itself spirituality. AS the Gods have said, Our Race Is Our Nation, and our race is our soul/spiritual group.

The politics and National Socialism promoted on 666Blacksun got me interested in JoS first coupled with my long time interest in spirituality. I had been in search of Satanists who actually thought differently than the usual "evil Nazis, race doesn't matter , Jews are Satanic" rhetoric promoted by CoS and other groups. Reading 666 Blacksun and JoS for the first time was a complete breath of fresh air. Back then, and likewise today, almost no Satanic groups other than JoS really had the integrity or fortitude to stand by National Socialism and fight the Jews.

Little "Leggy" (sic) here was no doubt simply a cuck and probably not even a real National Socialist.

[LightAlgur]

Joy of Satan is not a cult.

It’s an organization.

Of different gentiles. ranks and sections

fully open to the public to physically see for free.



The true spiritual side of National Socialism.

The forums are just a means to an end.

A means of communication

To bring an end to the jewish nightmare.


The word occult is similar to the Latin occultatum.

Meaning hidden, in this case, in spiritual “sight”.

In the end I ask my self one of their own questions,

What can they prove that witch they can not see?

[NinRick]

wideee

If you are going to stretch a word, why not stretch the vowel "i" in the middle of it? You stretch the silent e on the end that doesn't have a sound anyway.

That’s the hidden message, I wanted to highlight the word wide and I did it with the „e“ because my attack will hit him silently and he won’t realize why his life is turning into torture muhahahaha >:D


Nah just kidding I just did not realize it until you mentioned it ._.

[FancyMancy]

wideee

If you are going to stretch a word, why not stretch the vowel "i" in the middle of it? You stretch the silent e on the end that doesn't have a sound anyway.

Yeah, I was thinking, "WtF is 'Widdy'?". Mebbeee 'e's on dat widdy wacky baccy.

[Mageson666]

He simply didn't provide any evidence for his claims about the JoS, some of his claims are slander where is the evidence of plagiarism? He just makes the claim but never provides any evidence. His only argument was a meaningless appeal to false authority of Lavey. We are not the CoS, and are not obligated to follow their doctrines. Satanism is the original religion of Humanity it didn't start in the 1960's. There are numerous articles here proving this beyond any doubt.

I think what really happened is this individual is simply upset he was not considered some authority when he arrived and his first post was based on him showing his believed credentials. In the video he behaves like he himself is the authority on Satanism and everyone needs to listen to him because of such. While all he does is appeal to Lavey and some other peoples books, basically other peoples work. This is the mentality of mainstream society, its base and intellectually dishonest.

Myself I personally know that Satan is real. I have personally spoken with and interacted with Satan and the other Gods on my own. And on my own experience have come to know the JoS is true. Not because of HPS Maxine, but from my own experience I know they themselves are real. I have also written numerous amounts of work showing this. This is on my own experience and study not some other guys books. That is also why the rest of us are here as well. This fellow seems somewhat offended that we have normal respect for HPS Maxine, who has earned such from us.

This is why its important to meditate daily as it opens the soul and allows one to achieve higher communication with the Gods as well.

[Mageson666]

He really seems upset we don't think the Jews have a right to criminally dominate and violently abuse society based on their Talmudic racism towards Gentiles.

His claims about National Socialism being created on some kind of war ideal are also false. The German's didn't have a economy that was set up for any kind of war. The economy was set up to rebuild Germany. Hitler worked for constant peace with other nations as well. He even spared the British army at Dunkirk and made numerous attempts for peace with England. Germany was forced into war with Poland due to Poland attacking German civilians and border stations as Poland made a secret deal with Britain and France to attack Germany and start the war. So that Britain and France could come in and then Poland would get more of Germany for themselves. Poland's military was the third largest on earth, larger then the entire military of the British Empire and was a modern military.

Poland was defeated as Stalin used this to invade yet another nation for himself. And then Germany turned around and attacked the British and French forces that had invaded their nation and were on the march through Germany. Stalin needed as much of Poland as he could grab for his planned invasion into Germany and Europe.

After that not just Hitler but most of Europe was forced to attack the USSR as Stalin was planning to invade every nation in Europe in the summer of 1941 as the Soviet archives also show. The only reason the Hungarians, Italians, Germans, Romanians, Baltic nations and freed Ukrainians and White Russians and other volunteer armies from Spain to Scandinavia, were able to fight so long was because of the large amount of weapons, fuel and munitions, they captured off the Red Army forces on the border with Europe.

Stalin was so desperate its known he had NKVD partisan units dress in German uniforms and massacre civilians in the Ukraine to attempt turn the population against the German liberators.

[Mageson666]

This individual accuses us of plagiarism without any evidence, while waving around the Satanic Bible, by Lavey as some authority source.... While not understanding its well known Lavey actually used plagiarism from the book Might Makes Right, by Arthur Desmond [Ragnar Red Beard] for certain sections of the Satanic Bible.

This guy is a big brained genius, he has told us all himself many times in the video.

[HP. Hoodedcobra666]

I do not think the character here was up to anything, he just wanted to get some followers. First post, he just put his "Satanic Channel" on it. I remove it and he insisted, but then he just gave up, because that was what it wall was about.

Given the Trve Satanists he talks about are so many, and since "Internet groups are unimportant", all he had to do is whore himself around here then, like all these groups that are so great but have no internet presence. It's them and their 3-4 fat jew dykes that gather in a room, and become automatic authorities, cause they are the Chosen People and what they say is always true.

Because the internet as we know doesn't matter none of these groups they claim have ever exceeded 100 active members. The amount online here at uhm, almost any given moment of the day.

The Cult argument is so retarded, coming from LaVeyans. They are literally called after the literal surname of their main center man, LaVey. Without LaVey the CoS simply collapsed as there was nobody to play the church organ and do the flashy rituals that kept the "Definitely not a cult" going. Somehow, we are the cultists instead, who no instagram face, require no subscriptions for learning, and so forth.

It's clear the fattie wants to be "Someone" in Satanism and he just came around as if we were another group in the typical: "Oy vey I will advertise myself while pretending to be interested, in all Satanic webforums, show zero respect, and then when I am booted for a retard I'll just turn against them to incite attention on my big titties, voila, I'll have 100 subs by the end of the year, yay to me".

Then he used his Shofar From Israel, to remind himself how open minded he is.

[LightMangoMango]

He really seems upset we don't think the Jews have a right to criminally dominate and violently abuse society based on their Talmudic racism towards Gentiles.

His claims about National Socialism being created on some kind of war ideal are also false. The German's didn't have a economy that was set up for any kind of war. The economy was set up to rebuild Germany. Hitler worked for constant peace with other nations as well. He even spared the British army at Dunkirk and made numerous attempts for peace with England. Germany was forced into war with Poland due to Poland attacking German civilians and border stations as Poland made a secret deal with Britain and France to attack Germany and start the war. So that Britain and France could come in and then Poland would get more of Germany for themselves. Poland's military was the third largest on earth, larger then the entire military of the British Empire and was a modern military.

Poland was defeated as Stalin used this to invade yet another nation for himself. And then Germany turned around and attacked the British and French forces that had invaded their nation and were on the march through Germany. Stalin needed as much of Poland as he could grab for his planned invasion into Germany and Europe.

After that not just Hitler but most of Europe was forced to attack the USSR as Stalin was planning to invade every nation in Europe in the summer of 1941 as the Soviet archives also show. The only reason the Hungarians, Italians, Germans, Romanians, Baltic nations and freed Ukrainians and White Russians and other volunteer armies from Spain to Scandinavia, were able to fight so long was because of the large amount of weapons, fuel and munitions, they captured off the Red Army forces on the border with Europe.

Stalin was so desperate its known he had NKVD partisan units dress in German uniforms and massacre civilians in the Ukraine to attempt turn the population against the German liberators.

How you say it, it’s that we are the good people in reality, and all the other European nations are the traitor and evil ones. If just everyone knew it... everybody feels so guilty for what they supposedly did in ww2 to all foreign countries and the ***s...
Everybody thinks they need to welcome the refugees to make up for this to prove they are not so bad like their grandparents supposedly. Also nobody wants to say something like „Germany is the best country I am proud of my country“ because of this. This is the real „holo*****“ in my opinion to the German people. I wonder how long it will take to be common sense that the German people were betrayed in ww2.
I am not the type of person to say my opinion to others who disagree so I can’t tell them, but I can make RTR to make this time come by faster.
Hail Satan

[Powstanie Pogańskie]

This individual accuses us of plagiarism without any evidence, while waving around the Satanic Bible, by Lavey as some authority source.... While not understanding its well known Lavey actually used plagiarism from the book Might Makes Right, by Arthur Desmond [Ragnar Red Beard] for certain sections of the Satanic Bible.

This guy is a big brained genius, he has told us all himself many times in the video.

It's not the first time someone has lobbed the "plagiarism" accusation about, but it's still infuriating because it's patently untrue. All one has to do is look. Every article/sermon that references material has citations. Often with in-text citations even, which aren't even explicitly necessary in this type of setting. This is a particularly see-through attack.

[Mageson666]

Most Europeans didn't want another war, it was forced on them by Jewish owned politicians like Churchill who was probably Jewish himself from his mother. Along with the enemy using the USSR and the major occult power they had. Hitler refused to abandon his allies the Romanians, to Stalin as well. Which is what the last major bogus treaty talks with the USSR were about, letting the USSR take Romania, Hitler refused.

How you say it, it’s that we are the good people in reality, and all the other European nations are the traitor and evil ones. If just everyone knew it... everybody feels so guilty for what they supposedly did in ww2 to all foreign countries and the ***s...
Everybody thinks they need to welcome the refugees to make up for this to prove they are not so bad like their grandparents supposedly. Also nobody wants to say something like „Germany is the best country I am proud of my country“ because of this. This is the real „holo*****“ in my opinion to the German people. I wonder how long it will take to be common sense that the German people were betrayed in ww2.
I am not the type of person to say my opinion to others who disagree so I can’t tell them, but I can make RTR to make this time come by faster.
Hail Satan

[FancyMancy]

This individual accuses us of plagiarism without any evidence, while waving around the Satanic Bible, by Lavey as some authority source.... While not understanding its well known Lavey actually used plagiarism from the book Might Makes Right, by Arthur Desmond [Ragnar Red Beard] for certain sections of the Satanic Bible.

This guy is a big brained genius, he has told us all himself many times in the video.

It's not the first time someone has lobbed the "plagiarism" accusation about, but it's still infuriating because it's patently untrue. All one has to do is look. Every article/sermon that references material has citations. Often with in-text citations even, which aren't even explicitly necessary in this type of setting. This is a particularly see-through attack.

I said recently that people need to make sure we are a million billion trillion - gazillion Brazillian - percent amazing with zero things wrong or bad...but they will still try and make - when they cannot find - reasons and excuses. "Muh too-lazy-to-check-citations sadz."

[Gear88]

The Cult argument is so retarded, coming from LaVeyans. They are literally called after the literal surname of their main center man, LaVey. Without LaVey the CoS simply collapsed as there was nobody to play the church organ and do the flashy rituals that kept the "Definitely not a cult" going. Somehow, we are the cultists instead, who no instagram face, require no subscriptions for learning, and so forth.

@HP Cobra:

The sheer fact is in his video he does state we are cult. But he is actually stating a anti-JoS meme coming from people who created anti-JoS movements.

Basically he mis-interpreted cult when he forgot to state: eCult or electronic Cult. So in other words he states we are a cult in the electronic frontier without/forgetting to state eCult.

P.S.: @Mageson/@HoodedCobra.

How far have you guys delved into anti-JoS people, groups, and or organizations?

I'm curious as to how far some of these guys try and lurch forward and trip us up. I've done some light research but perhaps it didn't satisfy me enough.

(I merely wish to have a more solid ground on which to understand the situation. Much like high priest posts on this thread.)

[HP. Hoodedcobra666]

I do not care for anti-jos people as they never have an argument and only emotional babbling on why they FEEL it is bad to criticise jews, why they FEEL meditation is not important, why they FEEL we are a strange group when in reality everything is here, open and transparent and we force nobody to anything. Everything is free also knowledge wise.

This is something that they hate considering they sell bullshit in books such as how to do the Yogic basic breath.

I could care less about their underhanded attacks personally as this is totally unmanly and deceitful. Since most of these guys just HAPPEN to be jews, it makes it even more obvious.

Most are also just lacking any form of education on what terms they throw around. Terms like cult, plagiarism, and so forth, are things that have a definition, and if you do not know it, you cannot use it to argue.

Even what I write here is for people to read mostly to not get caught in their useless accussations.

In the end of the day we become bigger and stronger, and we improve ourselves with meditation, and all they do is whine.

[Legendary Creature]

I do not care for anti-jos people as they never have an argument and only emotional babbling on why they FEEL it is bad to criticise jews, why they FEEL meditation is not important, why they FEEL we are a strange group when in reality everything is here, open and transparent and we force nobody to anything. Everything is free also knowledge wise.

This is something that they hate considering they sell bullshit in books such as how to do the Yogic basic breath.

I could care less about their underhanded attacks personally as this is totally unmanly and deceitful. Since most of these guys just HAPPEN to be jews, it makes it even more obvious.

Most are also just lacking any form of education on what terms they throw around. Terms like cult, plagiarism, and so forth, are things that have a definition, and if you do not know it, you cannot use it to argue.

Even what I write here is for people to read mostly to not get caught in their useless accussations.

In the end of the day we become bigger and stronger, and we improve ourselves with meditation, and all they do is whine.

I dunno, mayn. I rolled a fat blunt and checked out The Vampire's Temple like he recommended (he does have one hellavu neckbeard) and it looks like they might be able to teach this old dog some new tricks. I think I might start wearing a cape.

[Aldrick Strickland]

You are quite right. It was a gut reactionary thing. I'd like to apoligize for being rude.
Wasn't very nice of me.

Not a problem. No apologies needed, but it is accepted.

Welcome to our Group. We are happy to see people of higher standing such as yourself show interest in us. I ask that the powers of Satanas be laid upon you.

The purpose of this group is not like other groups, that talk about the 5 million ways of reality and the purpose of chaos magick while smoking weed.

We are here for SATAN. HIS energy is imbued here. The Blue Fire of Satanas touches everything. Perhaps you would like to meet him or one of His DEMONS.

THAT is our true purpose.

SATANAMA

[Larissa666]

...I feel that I now have enough info to conclude that I am fundamentally incompatible with Joy of Satan

Random goyim like you does not simply wake up in the morning, and say: “you know what, I feel like worshipping mankind’s original religion today”.



You was never Satan’s child, and you will never be. Especially if even after reading through material on our webpage didn’t ignite any spark within you and made you think for a moment.

[Powstanie Pogańskie]

I said recently that people need to make sure we are a million billion trillion - gazillion Brazillian - percent amazing with zero things wrong or bad...but they will still try and make - when they cannot find - reasons and excuses. "Muh too-lazy-to-check-citations sadz."

I had a similar thought when this shitty argument squirmed its way back into the zeitgeist. They seemingly act like it'd be preferable that everything on the site and forums be information given directly by the Gods to be shared here - and in the scenario where that actually is the case, they'd complain that we're not corroborating with other independent sources so it's just personal ramblings. It all boils down to the same conclusion of it not being worth the time to persist in that struggle.

[Wotanwarrior]

...I feel that I now have enough info to conclude that I am fundamentally incompatible with Joy of Satan

Random goyim like you does not simply wake up in the morning, and say: “you know what, I feel like worshipping mankind’s original religion today”.



You was never Satan’s child, and you will never be. Especially if even after reading through material on our webpage didn’t ignite any spark within you and made you think for a moment.

This guy, apart from being an egocentric freak, has also been in the enemy's corrupt spirituality for years, first as a wiccan and now with the false satanism.

[Rambo]

I do not care for anti-jos people as they never have an argument and only emotional babbling on why they FEEL it is bad to criticise jews, why they FEEL meditation is not important, why they FEEL we are a strange group when in reality everything is here, open and transparent and we force nobody to anything. Everything is free also knowledge wise.

This is something that they hate considering they sell bullshit in books such as how to do the Yogic basic breath.

I could care less about their underhanded attacks personally as this is totally unmanly and deceitful. Since most of these guys just HAPPEN to be jews, it makes it even more obvious.

Most are also just lacking any form of education on what terms they throw around. Terms like cult, plagiarism, and so forth, are things that have a definition, and if you do not know it, you cannot use it to argue.

Even what I write here is for people to read mostly to not get caught in their useless accussations.

In the end of the day we become bigger and stronger, and we improve ourselves with meditation, and all they do is whine.

Tu fai un grande lavoro per Satana. Continua cosí amico... indipendente da quello che pensi su di me, che non mi preoccupa o interessa più di tanto... Sei un Grande Guerriero dell'Inferno sacrificando tutto il tuo tempo che non è poco!
Perchè io non dimentico che sono cresciuto anche con i tuoi sacrifici...!!!

[Mageson666]

The dislike we receive is mainly from in my experience normalized defence mechanisms of ideological filters that have been drummed into the population by years of enemy propaganda the media, churches, controlled school system and such. That is to be expected.

Our entire society is totally driven by ideological conditioning and highly ritualistic demands to pay service to this at all times. In fact its a soft form of the Soviet Union in this regards. This is because of the enemy.

I think the reason there is so much rage against Trump is because this symbolizes the fact the ideological system of control is not working and being thrown off by the general public. This is how it went in the USSR towards the end of the system as well.

[Emotion]

At first I thought this was a troll thread, but then realized that this is the mindset of a lot of these boomers. you can basically call this Boomer: the thread

I was laughing my ass off when I saw him giving off his kosher-creditentials in the original post expecting to be worshipped for such. Mageson is right. The conclusion he came to regarding the website wasn't because of the actual content, it was because he didn't immediately have everyone licking his feet for the 30 years of larping and reading silversteins approved publications. He basically just wanted to be seen as someone important and gain a following of a bunch of people to circle jerk over him for his 10 view per video youtube channel. When you go to his youtube page and see he is basically a walking meme of some overweight mountain dew guzzling larper type that is so common in kosher satanic circles it's clear he wasn't actually interested in any kind of spiritual path/practices or self improvement. Nothing that might cause him to put forth some labor in. Just circlejerking over pseudo-occultism and whose jewspeak is the best.

Something about these people who love plastering their faces everywhere like retards like that other kid on the forums who was a rapper or some shit.

This guys moniker also sounds very similar to Levi meaning he could be of the Tribe as well. Look how many times he tries convincing people in here that he's not worried about jews "It's Islam thats the problem guys! We just have to accept jews as a part of life!!". When you get down to it, every one of these "exposing the JOS"/"anti JOS" pages it's aalways a bunch of jews/marxists crying about the anti-jew aspect and about connections to a Nazi organization. You never see the actual spiritual path being dissected, it just comes down to them expecting to get away with screaming buzzwords like "Racist!" and expecting to win the argument on that alone like they try offline as well.

[FancyMancy]

I said recently that people need to make sure we are a million billion trillion - gazillion Brazillian - percent amazing with zero things wrong or bad...but they will still try and make - when they cannot find - reasons and excuses. "Muh too-lazy-to-check-citations sadz."

I had a similar thought when this shitty argument squirmed its way back into the zeitgeist. They seemingly act like it'd be preferable that everything on the site and forums be information given directly by the Gods to be shared here - and in the scenario where that actually is the case, they'd complain that we're not corroborating with other independent sources so it's just personal ramblings. It all boils down to the same conclusion of it not being worth the time to persist in that struggle.

The proof is in the pudding, and puddings tend to be sweet, but people either don't want to eat it or they prefer to starve.

[Ol argedco luciftias]

....

This is you?

[FancyMancy]

....

This is you?

May the fizz be with you. Carbonate - ACTIVATE!